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Sleep / standby not returning control
"Pete d'Oronzio [pdmagic]" <myfirstname[ at ]pdmagic.com> 6/17/2007 3:20:51 PM
Hi!

I've just installed Vista 64 on a new Xeon quad core workstatation.

I've got two problems.

(The first has to do with IE7 not formatting some web sites - I
posted that in internetexplorer.general, so I won't crosspost here)

When I leave the computer for a while and return, the (dual) monitors
are in standby mode. The computer is running, and I can connect to it
over the network and move files around. But I can't get control back
sitting in front of it. The red light under the mouse is on, the
keyboard status lights are on.

The first thing I tried is is modifying the power plan. I've set it
to:
Turn off the display: Never
Put the computer to sleep: Never

The BIOS has settings for ACPI sleep mode, you can set it to S1, S3
or both, I've tried all three settings with the same result.

It's really a drag coming back to a running computer and having to
try to remember what I left running as I press the reset button and
loose whatever was there.

Anyone familiar with this?

Thanks,

-Pete

Re: Sleep / standby not returning control
"Jane C" <jellybean[ at ]NOSPAMxjgarage.org> 6/17/2007 10:18:33 PM
It's a known problem with Vista and sleep. For many it works as expected,
for others there are varying degrees of what has ceased functioning after
waking - monitors, NIC cards, sound etc. With so many combinations of
hardware and drivers it's not easy to pinpoint the exact cause.

Microsoft are aware of the issues.

--
Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)
Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)
MVP Windows Shell/User

"Pete d'Oronzio [pdmagic]" <myfirstname[ at ]pdmagic.com> wrote in message
news:%23cL6XMPsHHA.532[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Hi!
>
> I've just installed Vista 64 on a new Xeon quad core workstatation.
>
> I've got two problems.
>
> (The first has to do with IE7 not formatting some web sites - I
> posted that in internetexplorer.general, so I won't crosspost here)
>
> When I leave the computer for a while and return, the (dual) monitors
> are in standby mode. The computer is running, and I can connect to it
> over the network and move files around. But I can't get control back
> sitting in front of it. The red light under the mouse is on, the
> keyboard status lights are on.
>
> The first thing I tried is is modifying the power plan. I've set it
> to:
> Turn off the display: Never
> Put the computer to sleep: Never
>
> The BIOS has settings for ACPI sleep mode, you can set it to S1, S3
> or both, I've tried all three settings with the same result.
>
> It's really a drag coming back to a running computer and having to
> try to remember what I left running as I press the reset button and
> loose whatever was there.
>
> Anyone familiar with this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Pete
>

Re: Sleep / standby not returning control
"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling[ at ]dbREMOVEmail.dk> 6/17/2007 11:16:55 PM
In the BIOS - you [may] have a setting for the keyboard key that actually
trigger it to activate???

Have a good look around too, it may be well hidden!

Also, for the CPU Frequency Scaling to work, your Windows Power Profile
should be set to 'Minimal' - if I'm not mistaken.


Tony. . .


"Pete d'Oronzio [pdmagic]" <myfirstname[ at ]pdmagic.com> wrote in message
news:%23cL6XMPsHHA.532[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Hi!
>
> I've just installed Vista 64 on a new Xeon quad core workstatation.
>
> I've got two problems.
>
> (The first has to do with IE7 not formatting some web sites - I
> posted that in internetexplorer.general, so I won't crosspost here)
>
> When I leave the computer for a while and return, the (dual) monitors
> are in standby mode. The computer is running, and I can connect to it
> over the network and move files around. But I can't get control back
> sitting in front of it. The red light under the mouse is on, the
> keyboard status lights are on.
>
> The first thing I tried is is modifying the power plan. I've set it
> to:
> Turn off the display: Never
> Put the computer to sleep: Never
>
> The BIOS has settings for ACPI sleep mode, you can set it to S1, S3
> or both, I've tried all three settings with the same result.
>
> It's really a drag coming back to a running computer and having to
> try to remember what I left running as I press the reset button and
> loose whatever was there.
>
> Anyone familiar with this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Pete
>


Re: Sleep / standby not returning control
"Pete d'Oronzio [pdmagic]" <myfirstname[ at ]pdmagic.com> 6/18/2007 1:11:54 AM
Jane C wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> It's a known problem with Vista and sleep. For many it works as
> expected, for others there are varying degrees of what has ceased
> functioning after waking - monitors, NIC cards, sound etc. With so
> many combinations of hardware and drivers it's not easy to pinpoint
> the exact cause.
>
> Microsoft are aware of the issues.


Thanks. that's good to know.

So, is there anything I can do? Surely I can disable something to
just prevent sleeping/standby/etc? I can't afford to not know when
my system is going to go bye bye... must I shut down my computer at
lunch time? over night? working late? There must be something
triggering it to start the standby process...

-Pete
Re: Sleep / standby not returning control
"Pete d'Oronzio [pdmagic]" <myfirstname[ at ]pdmagic.com> 6/19/2007 1:15:17 PM
Tony Sperling wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> In the BIOS - you [may] have a setting for the keyboard key that
> actually trigger it to activate???
>
> Have a good look around too, it may be well hidden!
>
> Also, for the CPU Frequency Scaling to work, your Windows Power
> Profile should be set to 'Minimal' - if I'm not mistaken.
>
>

Thanks, I tried changing that setting to "space" and "none" but
decided against "password", the third option.

Nothing is helping. I can't find a setting that stops my monitors
from turning off forever.

BTW: I tried clicking "sleep" on the start menu, and that works
perfectly. Goes all the way down, and comes all the way back up.

So, my issue doesn't seem to be about coming back from sleep, but
rather, getting into sleep all the way.

Any other thoughts on this?

-Pete
Re: Sleep / standby not returning control
"John Barnes" <jbarnes[ at ]email.net> 6/19/2007 4:51:56 PM
go to start, in the search box type power, select power options and drill
down and set the items you need to set to turn off the settings you don't
want. You should be able to make everything turn off with no sleep or
hibernation. Don't forget the advanced settings.



"Pete d'Oronzio [pdmagic]" <myfirstname[ at ]pdmagic.com> wrote in message
news:eFFupWUsHHA.536[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Jane C wrote:
>
>> It's a known problem with Vista and sleep. For many it works as
>> expected, for others there are varying degrees of what has ceased
>> functioning after waking - monitors, NIC cards, sound etc. With so
>> many combinations of hardware and drivers it's not easy to pinpoint
>> the exact cause.
>>
>> Microsoft are aware of the issues.
>
>
> Thanks. that's good to know.
>
> So, is there anything I can do? Surely I can disable something to
> just prevent sleeping/standby/etc? I can't afford to not know when
> my system is going to go bye bye... must I shut down my computer at
> lunch time? over night? working late? There must be something
> triggering it to start the standby process...
>
> -Pete

Re: Sleep / standby not returning control
"Pete d'Oronzio [pdmagic]" <myfirstname[ at ]pdmagic.com> 6/19/2007 8:26:44 PM
John Barnes wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> go to start, in the search box type power, select power options and
> drill down and set the items you need to set to turn off the
> settings you don't want. You should be able to make everything
> turn off with no sleep or hibernation. Don't forget the advanced
> settings.
>

Did that, even had a co-worker come in to give me a hard time - he
couldn't find anything in the settings that wasn't turned off. But
still, I headed off for a couple of hours of yoga, came back to
monitors off, system on, no way to get it to respond other than the
power switch.

I just set the power switch option to "sleep" to see if I can put it
to sleep in that scenario. It comes back fine from taking a nap, it
just doesn't seem to be able to fall completely asleep!

Thanks,

-Pete
Re: Sleep / standby not returning control
"John Barnes" <jbarnes[ at ]email.net> 6/19/2007 8:39:43 PM
That is usually a driver issue but can be a BIOS setting. It has been a
while since I used it, but running powercfg from a command prompt
(administrator privileges) has many features you can try to see what might
be causing the problem. use the help or ? modifies to see the options.
Good luck.


"Pete d'Oronzio [pdmagic]" <myfirstname[ at ]pdmagic.com> wrote in message
news:OpmLoArsHHA.1204[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> John Barnes wrote:
>
>> go to start, in the search box type power, select power options and
>> drill down and set the items you need to set to turn off the
>> settings you don't want. You should be able to make everything
>> turn off with no sleep or hibernation. Don't forget the advanced
>> settings.
>>
>
> Did that, even had a co-worker come in to give me a hard time - he
> couldn't find anything in the settings that wasn't turned off. But
> still, I headed off for a couple of hours of yoga, came back to
> monitors off, system on, no way to get it to respond other than the
> power switch.
>
> I just set the power switch option to "sleep" to see if I can put it
> to sleep in that scenario. It comes back fine from taking a nap, it
> just doesn't seem to be able to fall completely asleep!
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Pete

Re: Sleep / standby not returning control
"Pete d'Oronzio [pdmagic]" <myfirstname[ at ]pdmagic.com> 6/21/2007 2:25:09 PM
Jane C wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> It's a known problem with Vista and sleep. For many it works as
> expected, for others there are varying degrees of what has ceased
> functioning after waking - monitors, NIC cards, sound etc. With so
> many combinations of hardware and drivers it's not easy to pinpoint
> the exact cause.
>
> Microsoft are aware of the issues.

BIoS upgrade appears to have solved the problem (new bios posted for
my SuperMicro motherboard two weeks ago)

Thanks!

-Pete

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