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Dual Boot
"Thomas Frost" <tomf_rules[ at ]connexus.net.au> 6/24/2007 4:37:17 AM
My pc came preinstalled with xp home and came with the restore disks, is
there any way for me dual boot it with 98 on the same machine?


RE: Dual Boot
Andrew E. 6/24/2007 6:10:01 AM
You would need to re-partition the hd,3rd party software would be needed.Or
purchase another hd,use as storage for xp & 98,and put 98 on it also....

"Thomas Frost" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> My pc came preinstalled with xp home and came with the restore disks, is
> there any way for me dual boot it with 98 on the same machine?
>
>
>
Re: Dual Boot
"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit[ at ]mvps.org.NOSPAM> 6/24/2007 12:01:23 PM
It isn't that simple, Andrew. With older versions of Windows the 'oldest'
version has to be installed first followed by the next newest. In other
words you need to install Windows 98 first on the C: partition, then XP on
your next partition, presumably D or E.

Obviously, if you only have recovery disks for XP you are not going to be
able to do this, because installing XP from the recovery disk will,
effectively, wipe out the windows 98 installation which you would have
installed on drive C:.

There is an option to install 98 after XP has been installed but it does
require changing registry entries. Visit this site: http://www.dougknox.com/
Click the Win XP Tips option on the left of the screen. When this window
opens look for the link 'Install 98/ME After XP is Installed' You should
find it on the right of the screen near the 3rd from the top of the list.


--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
Windows - Shell/User

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org

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"Andrew E." <eckrichco[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
news:23DFBB2C-B99F-4ACC-9683-5A7FC5C594F5[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> You would need to re-partition the hd,3rd party software would be
> needed.Or
> purchase another hd,use as storage for xp & 98,and put 98 on it also....
>
> "Thomas Frost" wrote:
>
>> My pc came preinstalled with xp home and came with the restore disks, is
>> there any way for me dual boot it with 98 on the same machine?
>>
>>
>>

Re: Dual Boot
"Paul Riemerman" <priemerNOT55[ at ]msn.com> 6/24/2007 1:06:48 PM
My memory is you should be able to do it, but Win 98 requires a fat(32?)
partition in the first partition of your drive to do so. Since the most
common way to install XP is with NTFS, you might need a partition
creation/management program such as Acronis to create a fat partition to
lead off your drive which you can install Win 98 on.

Paul Riemerman

"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit[ at ]mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:eRH%23mdltHHA.4860[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> It isn't that simple, Andrew. With older versions of Windows the 'oldest'
> version has to be installed first followed by the next newest. In other
> words you need to install Windows 98 first on the C: partition, then XP on
> your next partition, presumably D or E.
>
> Obviously, if you only have recovery disks for XP you are not going to be
> able to do this, because installing XP from the recovery disk will,
> effectively, wipe out the windows 98 installation which you would have
> installed on drive C:.
>
> There is an option to install 98 after XP has been installed but it does
> require changing registry entries. Visit this site:
> http://www.dougknox.com/ Click the Win XP Tips option on the left of the
> screen. When this window opens look for the link 'Install 98/ME After XP
> is Installed' You should find it on the right of the screen near the 3rd
> from the top of the list.
>
>
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> Windows - Shell/User
>
> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>
> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
> for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
> of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
> this mail/post..
>
> "Andrew E." <eckrichco[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
> news:23DFBB2C-B99F-4ACC-9683-5A7FC5C594F5[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> You would need to re-partition the hd,3rd party software would be
>> needed.Or
>> purchase another hd,use as storage for xp & 98,and put 98 on it also....
>>
>> "Thomas Frost" wrote:
>>
>>> My pc came preinstalled with xp home and came with the restore disks, is
>>> there any way for me dual boot it with 98 on the same machine?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

Re: Dual Boot
"Bogey Man" <spam[ at ]kwic.com> 6/24/2007 1:49:14 PM
"Thomas Frost" <tomf_rules[ at ]connexus.net.au> wrote in message
news:Og2WElhtHHA.736[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> My pc came preinstalled with xp home and came with the restore disks, is
> there any way for me dual boot it with 98 on the same machine?

Having gone through the dual booting of 98 and XP, I would examine the
reasons that I want/need to have both operating systems. In my case I found
out after the fact that everything worked in XP except for a few
insignificant programs that could easily be replaced. Some of my hardware
didn't like XP but it was old so I replaced what needed to be replaced.

All in all, I'm sorry that I ever went through the dual boot set-up.

Re: Dual Boot
"Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> 6/24/2007 2:40:30 PM
John

I agree you should install the oldest first if you are NOT using a third
party
partitioning tool but using BootIt NG it is not neccessary. The video
about
installing Windows 98 in the following link shows how much easier it can
be:
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/examples.html

--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit[ at ]mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:eRH%23mdltHHA.4860[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> It isn't that simple, Andrew. With older versions of Windows the
> 'oldest' version has to be installed first followed by the next
> newest. In other words you need to install Windows 98 first on the C:
> partition, then XP on your next partition, presumably D or E.
>
> Obviously, if you only have recovery disks for XP you are not going to
> be able to do this, because installing XP from the recovery disk will,
> effectively, wipe out the windows 98 installation which you would have
> installed on drive C:.
>
> There is an option to install 98 after XP has been installed but it
> does require changing registry entries. Visit this site:
> http://www.dougknox.com/ Click the Win XP Tips option on the left of
> the screen. When this window opens look for the link 'Install 98/ME
> After XP is Installed' You should find it on the right of the screen
> near the 3rd from the top of the list.
>
>
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> Windows - Shell/User
>
> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>
> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of
> any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the
> accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall
> not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential
> damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or
> opinions expressed in this mail/post..
>
> "Andrew E." <eckrichco[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
> news:23DFBB2C-B99F-4ACC-9683-5A7FC5C594F5[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> You would need to re-partition the hd,3rd party software would be
>> needed.Or
>> purchase another hd,use as storage for xp & 98,and put 98 on it
>> also....
>>
>> "Thomas Frost" wrote:
>>
>>> My pc came preinstalled with xp home and came with the restore
>>> disks, is
>>> there any way for me dual boot it with 98 on the same machine?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>


Re: Dual Boot
"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit[ at ]mvps.org.NOSPAM> 6/24/2007 4:51:52 PM
The dual boot set up isn't that bad I used it for years with great success -
well until Vista came along then all dual booting between Xp and Vista did
was to delete all system restore and shadow copy files from the Vista
partition. The solution to the problem as Gerry suggested is BootItNG.
However, in my case the solution was somewhat easier by using virtual
machine software. Microsoft have a free version of Virtual PC 2007, although
it doesn't have USB support which is necessary in my case so I opted for the
$200 VMware Workstation.


--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
Windows - Shell/User

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org

The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
mail/post..

"Bogey Man" <spam[ at ]kwic.com> wrote in message
news:uQrx0ZmtHHA.1168[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> "Thomas Frost" <tomf_rules[ at ]connexus.net.au> wrote in message
> news:Og2WElhtHHA.736[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> My pc came preinstalled with xp home and came with the restore disks, is
>> there any way for me dual boot it with 98 on the same machine?
>
> Having gone through the dual booting of 98 and XP, I would examine the
> reasons that I want/need to have both operating systems. In my case I
> found out after the fact that everything worked in XP except for a few
> insignificant programs that could easily be replaced. Some of my hardware
> didn't like XP but it was old so I replaced what needed to be replaced.
>
> All in all, I'm sorry that I ever went through the dual boot set-up.

Re: Dual Boot
"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit[ at ]mvps.org.NOSPAM> 6/24/2007 4:58:14 PM
Gerry,

BootIt NG has been highly recommended by many MVPs, especially where you are
dual booting Windows XP and Vista. As you can see from my post to Bogey Man,
dual booting in the normal way between XP and Vista does have its problems
in that, when booting to XP, all system restore points on the Vista
partition are lost, which can cause numerous problems. The main two options
to prevent this is using bitlocker (assuming you own a copy of vista
business, enterprise or ultimate) or, alternatively using a third party boot
manager such as BootIt NG.

--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
Windows - Shell/User

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org

The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
mail/post..

"Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> wrote in message
news:eVJBm2mtHHA.3588[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> John
>
> I agree you should install the oldest first if you are NOT using a third
> party
> partitioning tool but using BootIt NG it is not neccessary. The video
> about
> installing Windows 98 in the following link shows how much easier it can
> be:
> http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/examples.html
>
> --
> Regards.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit[ at ]mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
> news:eRH%23mdltHHA.4860[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> It isn't that simple, Andrew. With older versions of Windows the 'oldest'
>> version has to be installed first followed by the next newest. In other
>> words you need to install Windows 98 first on the C: partition, then XP
>> on your next partition, presumably D or E.
>>
>> Obviously, if you only have recovery disks for XP you are not going to be
>> able to do this, because installing XP from the recovery disk will,
>> effectively, wipe out the windows 98 installation which you would have
>> installed on drive C:.
>>
>> There is an option to install 98 after XP has been installed but it does
>> require changing registry entries. Visit this site:
>> http://www.dougknox.com/ Click the Win XP Tips option on the left of the
>> screen. When this window opens look for the link 'Install 98/ME After XP
>> is Installed' You should find it on the right of the screen near the 3rd
>> from the top of the list.
>>
>>
>> --
>> John Barnett MVP
>> Associate Expert
>> Windows - Shell/User
>>
>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>>
>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
>> for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
>> of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
>> this mail/post..
>>
>> "Andrew E." <eckrichco[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:23DFBB2C-B99F-4ACC-9683-5A7FC5C594F5[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>> You would need to re-partition the hd,3rd party software would be
>>> needed.Or
>>> purchase another hd,use as storage for xp & 98,and put 98 on it also....
>>>
>>> "Thomas Frost" wrote:
>>>
>>>> My pc came preinstalled with xp home and came with the restore disks,
>>>> is
>>>> there any way for me dual boot it with 98 on the same machine?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>

Re: Dual Boot
"Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> 6/24/2007 6:00:00 PM
John

I have dual booted XP and Vista using BootIt NG. It worked fine.


--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit[ at ]mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:%23j7tfDotHHA.768[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Gerry,
>
> BootIt NG has been highly recommended by many MVPs, especially where
> you are dual booting Windows XP and Vista. As you can see from my post
> to Bogey Man, dual booting in the normal way between XP and Vista does
> have its problems in that, when booting to XP, all system restore
> points on the Vista partition are lost, which can cause numerous
> problems. The main two options to prevent this is using bitlocker
> (assuming you own a copy of vista business, enterprise or ultimate)
> or, alternatively using a third party boot manager such as BootIt NG.
>
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> Windows - Shell/User
>
> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>
> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of
> any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the
> accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall
> not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential
> damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or
> opinions expressed in this mail/post..
>
> "Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:eVJBm2mtHHA.3588[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> John
>>
>> I agree you should install the oldest first if you are NOT using a
>> third party
>> partitioning tool but using BootIt NG it is not neccessary. The video
>> about
>> installing Windows 98 in the following link shows how much easier it
>> can be:
>> http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/examples.html
>>
>> --
>> Regards.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit[ at ]mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
>> news:eRH%23mdltHHA.4860[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> It isn't that simple, Andrew. With older versions of Windows the
>>> 'oldest' version has to be installed first followed by the next
>>> newest. In other words you need to install Windows 98 first on the
>>> C: partition, then XP on your next partition, presumably D or E.
>>>
>>> Obviously, if you only have recovery disks for XP you are not going
>>> to be able to do this, because installing XP from the recovery disk
>>> will, effectively, wipe out the windows 98 installation which you
>>> would have installed on drive C:.
>>>
>>> There is an option to install 98 after XP has been installed but it
>>> does require changing registry entries. Visit this site:
>>> http://www.dougknox.com/ Click the Win XP Tips option on the left of
>>> the screen. When this window opens look for the link 'Install 98/ME
>>> After XP is Installed' You should find it on the right of the screen
>>> near the 3rd from the top of the list.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> John Barnett MVP
>>> Associate Expert
>>> Windows - Shell/User
>>>
>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>>>
>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty
>>> of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the
>>> accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall
>>> not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential
>>> damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information
>>> or opinions expressed in this mail/post..
>>>
>>> "Andrew E." <eckrichco[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:23DFBB2C-B99F-4ACC-9683-5A7FC5C594F5[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>>> You would need to re-partition the hd,3rd party software would be
>>>> needed.Or
>>>> purchase another hd,use as storage for xp & 98,and put 98 on it
>>>> also....
>>>>
>>>> "Thomas Frost" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My pc came preinstalled with xp home and came with the restore
>>>>> disks, is
>>>>> there any way for me dual boot it with 98 on the same machine?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>


Re: Dual Boot
"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit[ at ]mvps.org.NOSPAM> 6/24/2007 8:32:05 PM
Gerry, to be honest I have never used BootIt NG so I have no experience of
how it will work on a dual boot system. As I've said I solved my XP - Vista
problem by using VMware Workstation which allows me to boot directly into XP
while still running Vista, so both operating systems are running at the same
time. I know that a lot of MVPs have used BootIt NG and have been more than
satisfied, so too are you by all accounts. In the end it all boils down to
what you want out of the different software applications; what suits one
doesn't suit another. Fortunately VMware is suiting me fine, but I will
recommend BootIt NG as a viable alternative to the usual dual boot method.

--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
Windows - Shell/User

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org

The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
mail/post..

"Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> wrote in message
news:OGhKGmotHHA.768[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> John
>
> I have dual booted XP and Vista using BootIt NG. It worked fine.
>
>
> --
> Regards.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit[ at ]mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
> news:%23j7tfDotHHA.768[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Gerry,
>>
>> BootIt NG has been highly recommended by many MVPs, especially where you
>> are dual booting Windows XP and Vista. As you can see from my post to
>> Bogey Man, dual booting in the normal way between XP and Vista does have
>> its problems in that, when booting to XP, all system restore points on
>> the Vista partition are lost, which can cause numerous problems. The main
>> two options to prevent this is using bitlocker (assuming you own a copy
>> of vista business, enterprise or ultimate) or, alternatively using a
>> third party boot manager such as BootIt NG.
>>
>> --
>> John Barnett MVP
>> Associate Expert
>> Windows - Shell/User
>>
>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>>
>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
>> for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
>> of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
>> this mail/post..
>>
>> "Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:eVJBm2mtHHA.3588[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> John
>>>
>>> I agree you should install the oldest first if you are NOT using a third
>>> party
>>> partitioning tool but using BootIt NG it is not neccessary. The video
>>> about
>>> installing Windows 98 in the following link shows how much easier it can
>>> be:
>>> http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/examples.html
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Gerry
>>> ~~~~
>>> FCA
>>> Stourport, England
>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit[ at ]mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
>>> news:eRH%23mdltHHA.4860[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> It isn't that simple, Andrew. With older versions of Windows the
>>>> 'oldest' version has to be installed first followed by the next newest.
>>>> In other words you need to install Windows 98 first on the C:
>>>> partition, then XP on your next partition, presumably D or E.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously, if you only have recovery disks for XP you are not going to
>>>> be able to do this, because installing XP from the recovery disk will,
>>>> effectively, wipe out the windows 98 installation which you would have
>>>> installed on drive C:.
>>>>
>>>> There is an option to install 98 after XP has been installed but it
>>>> does require changing registry entries. Visit this site:
>>>> http://www.dougknox.com/ Click the Win XP Tips option on the left of
>>>> the screen. When this window opens look for the link 'Install 98/ME
>>>> After XP is Installed' You should find it on the right of the screen
>>>> near the 3rd from the top of the list.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> John Barnett MVP
>>>> Associate Expert
>>>> Windows - Shell/User
>>>>
>>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>>>>
>>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of
>>>> any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the
>>>> accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall
>>>> not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential
>>>> damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or
>>>> opinions expressed in this mail/post..
>>>>
>>>> "Andrew E." <eckrichco[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:23DFBB2C-B99F-4ACC-9683-5A7FC5C594F5[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>>>> You would need to re-partition the hd,3rd party software would be
>>>>> needed.Or
>>>>> purchase another hd,use as storage for xp & 98,and put 98 on it
>>>>> also....
>>>>>
>>>>> "Thomas Frost" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My pc came preinstalled with xp home and came with the restore disks,
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> there any way for me dual boot it with 98 on the same machine?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: Dual Boot
"GreenieLeBrun" <GreenieLeBrun[ at ]hotmail.com> 6/25/2007 12:41:28 AM


Thomas Frost wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> My pc came preinstalled with xp home and came with the restore disks,
> is there any way for me dual boot it with 98 on the same machine?

You could always use virtual PC.

Microsoft Virtual PC
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx


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