reinstallation of xp on another system "everett williams" <lewchey[ at ]juno.com> 6/15/2007 3:35:58 PM My laptop system no longer works. I originally installed a licensed copy of XP on it. Since Microsoft requires activation of this product and that process tethers it to the specific system you're using it on, am I prevented from reusing this licensed copy of XP on another system I may purchase?

Re: reinstallation of xp on another system Malke <notreally[ at ]invalid.invalid> 6/15/2007 3:56:45 PM everett williams wrote: [Quoted Text] > My laptop system no longer works. I originally installed a licensed copy of > XP on it. Since Microsoft requires activation of this product and that > process tethers it to the specific system you're using it on, am I prevented > from reusing this licensed copy of XP on another system I may purchase? > > Did you purchase a retail copy or an OEM copy? A "licensed copy" means nothing. If it was retail, you can install it on whatever machine you want. If it was OEM, it is tied to the machine on which you originally installed it. Malke -- Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com "Don't Panic!" MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Re: reinstallation of xp on another system "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake[ at ]this.is.am.invalid.domain> 6/15/2007 5:08:25 PM On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:35:58 -0400, "everett williams" <lewchey[ at ]juno.com> wrote: [Quoted Text] >My laptop system no longer works. I originally installed a licensed copy of >XP on it. Since Microsoft requires activation of this product and that >process tethers it to the specific system you're using it on, am I prevented >from reusing this licensed copy of XP on another system I may purchase? It depends. If yours is an OEM copy, yes, it's permanently tied to the first computer it's installed on (the biggest disadvantage of OEM copies, and the reason I recommend against them). But if yours is a retail copy, you can move it from computer to computer as often as you want. The only restriction is that it may not be on two computers at once. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Re: reinstallation of xp on another system "Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer[ at ]PNB.Retired_1987> 6/15/2007 5:13:52 PM Can you replace any parts that fail in the original computer? Or the number of parts that fail or can't provide for the needs of software you want to use on the system? (power supply today, motherboard tomorrow, hard drive the next day and gee look what happened to the case when I accidentally dropped it out of the fifth floor window!) -- Don Vancouver, USA "Malke" <notreally[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:uNMVHX2rHHA.500[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > everett williams wrote: >> My laptop system no longer works. I originally installed a licensed copy >> of XP on it. Since Microsoft requires activation of this product and >> that process tethers it to the specific system you're using it on, am I >> prevented from reusing this licensed copy of XP on another system I may >> purchase? > > Did you purchase a retail copy or an OEM copy? A "licensed copy" means > nothing. If it was retail, you can install it on whatever machine you > want. If it was OEM, it is tied to the machine on which you originally > installed it. > > > Malke > -- > Elephant Boy Computers > www.elephantboycomputers.com > "Don't Panic!" > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Re: reinstallation of xp on another system "Harry Ohrn MS MVP" <harry---[ at ]webtree.ca> 6/15/2007 7:34:02 PM If you drop the system out a 5th floor window you go an buy another system. As for replacing components you can upgrade whatever you deem necessary without violating the OEM EULA with the exception of replacing the motherboard. Replacing the motherboard is considered, or "deemed" as being a new system and you need a new license. Personally I advise people who believe that they may be upgrading hardware on a regular basis to steer away from OEM versions. -- Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User] "Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer[ at ]PNB.Retired_1987> wrote in message news:1375i644ck3ed67[ at ]corp.supernews.com... [Quoted Text] > Can you replace any parts that fail in the original computer? Or the > number of parts that fail or can't provide for the needs of software you > want to use on the system? > > (power supply today, motherboard tomorrow, hard drive the next day and gee > look what happened to the case when I accidentally dropped it out of the > fifth floor window!) > > -- > Don > Vancouver, USA > > > "Malke" <notreally[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message > news:uNMVHX2rHHA.500[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> everett williams wrote: >>> My laptop system no longer works. I originally installed a licensed >>> copy of XP on it. Since Microsoft requires activation of this product >>> and that process tethers it to the specific system you're using it on, >>> am I prevented from reusing this licensed copy of XP on another system >>> I may purchase? >> >> Did you purchase a retail copy or an OEM copy? A "licensed copy" means >> nothing. If it was retail, you can install it on whatever machine you >> want. If it was OEM, it is tied to the machine on which you originally >> installed it. >> >> >> Malke >> -- >> Elephant Boy Computers >> www.elephantboycomputers.com >> "Don't Panic!" >> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User > >

Re: reinstallation of xp on another system "DL" <address[ at ]invalid> 6/15/2007 11:15:17 PM That definition is not legally enforceable over here, EU. (assuming a retail OEM not supplier specific OEM) "Harry Ohrn MS MVP" <harry---[ at ]webtree.ca> wrote in message news:ezQphQ4rHHA.4548[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > without violating the OEM EULA with the exception of replacing the > motherboard. Replacing the motherboard is considered, or "deemed" as being a > new system and you need a new license. > > Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]

Re: reinstallation of xp on another system "Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer[ at ]PNB.Retired_1987> 6/16/2007 1:30:43 AM Nowhere did I find any reference to the word "motherboard" in my EULA for Windows XP Pro. To replace a computer because the case was on the widow sill when if fell the five stories while I had all the internals on the table cleaning the dust from the components seems like a waste of money. All I'm saying is the San Quentin lawyers could reason a way around what many think the EULA states. -- Don Vancouver, USA "Harry Ohrn MS MVP" <harry---[ at ]webtree.ca> wrote in message news:ezQphQ4rHHA.4548[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > If you drop the system out a 5th floor window you go an buy another > system. As for replacing components you can upgrade whatever you deem > necessary without violating the OEM EULA with the exception of replacing > the motherboard. Replacing the motherboard is considered, or "deemed" as > being a new system and you need a new license. > > Personally I advise people who believe that they may be upgrading hardware > on a regular basis to steer away from OEM versions. > > -- > > > Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User] > > > "Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer[ at ]PNB.Retired_1987> wrote in message > news:1375i644ck3ed67[ at ]corp.supernews.com... >> Can you replace any parts that fail in the original computer? Or the >> number of parts that fail or can't provide for the needs of software you >> want to use on the system? >> >> (power supply today, motherboard tomorrow, hard drive the next day and >> gee look what happened to the case when I accidentally dropped it out of >> the fifth floor window!) >> >> -- >> Don >> Vancouver, USA >> >> >> "Malke" <notreally[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >> news:uNMVHX2rHHA.500[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> everett williams wrote: >>>> My laptop system no longer works. I originally installed a licensed >>>> copy of XP on it. Since Microsoft requires activation of this product >>>> and that process tethers it to the specific system you're using it on, >>>> am I prevented from reusing this licensed copy of XP on another system >>>> I may purchase? >>> >>> Did you purchase a retail copy or an OEM copy? A "licensed copy" means >>> nothing. If it was retail, you can install it on whatever machine you >>> want. If it was OEM, it is tied to the machine on which you originally >>> installed it. >>> >>> >>> Malke >>> -- >>> Elephant Boy Computers >>> www.elephantboycomputers.com >>> "Don't Panic!" >>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User >> >> > >

Re: reinstallation of xp on another system "Harry Ohrn" <harry---[ at ]webtree.ca> 6/16/2007 1:53:43 AM What if you had your antistatic band attached to the case when one of the San Quentin lawyers threw it out the window? -- Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User] www.webtree.ca/windowsxp "Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer[ at ]PNB.Retired_1987> wrote in message news:1376f8vnrfam7b3[ at ]corp.supernews.com... [Quoted Text] > Nowhere did I find any reference to the word "motherboard" in my EULA for > Windows XP Pro. > > To replace a computer because the case was on the widow sill when if fell > the five stories while I had all the internals on the table cleaning the > dust from the components seems like a waste of money. > > All I'm saying is the San Quentin lawyers could reason a way around what > many think the EULA states. > > > -- > Don > Vancouver, USA > > > "Harry Ohrn MS MVP" <harry---[ at ]webtree.ca> wrote in message > news:ezQphQ4rHHA.4548[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> If you drop the system out a 5th floor window you go an buy another >> system. As for replacing components you can upgrade whatever you deem >> necessary without violating the OEM EULA with the exception of replacing >> the motherboard. Replacing the motherboard is considered, or "deemed" as >> being a new system and you need a new license. >> >> Personally I advise people who believe that they may be upgrading >> hardware on a regular basis to steer away from OEM versions. >> >> -- >> >> >> Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User] >> >> >> "Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer[ at ]PNB.Retired_1987> wrote in message >> news:1375i644ck3ed67[ at ]corp.supernews.com... >>> Can you replace any parts that fail in the original computer? Or the >>> number of parts that fail or can't provide for the needs of software you >>> want to use on the system? >>> >>> (power supply today, motherboard tomorrow, hard drive the next day and >>> gee look what happened to the case when I accidentally dropped it out of >>> the fifth floor window!) >>> >>> -- >>> Don >>> Vancouver, USA >>> >>> >>> "Malke" <notreally[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:uNMVHX2rHHA.500[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> everett williams wrote: >>>>> My laptop system no longer works. I originally installed a licensed >>>>> copy of XP on it. Since Microsoft requires activation of this product >>>>> and that process tethers it to the specific system you're using it on, >>>>> am I prevented from reusing this licensed copy of XP on another >>>>> system I may purchase? >>>> >>>> Did you purchase a retail copy or an OEM copy? A "licensed copy" means >>>> nothing. If it was retail, you can install it on whatever machine you >>>> want. If it was OEM, it is tied to the machine on which you originally >>>> installed it. >>>> >>>> >>>> Malke >>>> -- >>>> Elephant Boy Computers >>>> www.elephantboycomputers.com >>>> "Don't Panic!" >>>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User >>> >>> >> >> > >

Re: reinstallation of xp on another system "Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer[ at ]PNB.Retired_1987> 6/16/2007 4:24:54 AM I think I got the message. "Harry Ohrn" <harry---[ at ]webtree.ca> wrote in message news:u5jnsk7rHHA.1296[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > What if you had your antistatic band attached to the case when one of the > San Quentin lawyers threw it out the window? > > -- > > > Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User] > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp > > "Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer[ at ]PNB.Retired_1987> wrote in message > news:1376f8vnrfam7b3[ at ]corp.supernews.com... >> Nowhere did I find any reference to the word "motherboard" in my EULA for >> Windows XP Pro. >> >> To replace a computer because the case was on the widow sill when if fell >> the five stories while I had all the internals on the table cleaning the >> dust from the components seems like a waste of money. >> >> All I'm saying is the San Quentin lawyers could reason a way around what >> many think the EULA states. >> >> >> -- >> Don >> Vancouver, USA >> >> >> "Harry Ohrn MS MVP" <harry---[ at ]webtree.ca> wrote in message >> news:ezQphQ4rHHA.4548[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> If you drop the system out a 5th floor window you go an buy another >>> system. As for replacing components you can upgrade whatever you deem >>> necessary without violating the OEM EULA with the exception of replacing >>> the motherboard. Replacing the motherboard is considered, or "deemed" as >>> being a new system and you need a new license. >>> >>> Personally I advise people who believe that they may be upgrading >>> hardware on a regular basis to steer away from OEM versions. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User] >>> >>> >>> "Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer[ at ]PNB.Retired_1987> wrote in message >>> news:1375i644ck3ed67[ at ]corp.supernews.com... >>>> Can you replace any parts that fail in the original computer? Or the >>>> number of parts that fail or can't provide for the needs of software >>>> you want to use on the system? >>>> >>>> (power supply today, motherboard tomorrow, hard drive the next day and >>>> gee look what happened to the case when I accidentally dropped it out >>>> of the fifth floor window!) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Don >>>> Vancouver, USA >>>> >>>> >>>> "Malke" <notreally[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:uNMVHX2rHHA.500[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> everett williams wrote: >>>>>> My laptop system no longer works. I originally installed a licensed >>>>>> copy of XP on it. Since Microsoft requires activation of this >>>>>> product and that process tethers it to the specific system you're >>>>>> using it on, am I prevented from reusing this licensed copy of XP on >>>>>> another system I may purchase? >>>>> >>>>> Did you purchase a retail copy or an OEM copy? A "licensed copy" means >>>>> nothing. If it was retail, you can install it on whatever machine you >>>>> want. If it was OEM, it is tied to the machine on which you originally >>>>> installed it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Malke >>>>> -- >>>>> Elephant Boy Computers >>>>> www.elephantboycomputers.com >>>>> "Don't Panic!" >>>>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

Re: reinstallation of xp on another system "Harry Ohrn" <harry---[ at ]webtree.ca> 6/16/2007 5:11:57 AM ;-) -- Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User] www.webtree.ca/windowsxp "Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer[ at ]PNB.Retired_1987> wrote in message news:1376pfghpm8u0b1[ at ]corp.supernews.com... [Quoted Text] >I think I got the message. > > > "Harry Ohrn" <harry---[ at ]webtree.ca> wrote in message > news:u5jnsk7rHHA.1296[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> What if you had your antistatic band attached to the case when one of the >> San Quentin lawyers threw it out the window? >> >> -- >> >> >> Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User] >> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp >> >> "Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer[ at ]PNB.Retired_1987> wrote in message >> news:1376f8vnrfam7b3[ at ]corp.supernews.com... >>> Nowhere did I find any reference to the word "motherboard" in my EULA >>> for Windows XP Pro. >>> >>> To replace a computer because the case was on the widow sill when if >>> fell the five stories while I had all the internals on the table >>> cleaning the dust from the components seems like a waste of money. >>> >>> All I'm saying is the San Quentin lawyers could reason a way around what >>> many think the EULA states. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Don >>> Vancouver, USA >>> >>> >>> "Harry Ohrn MS MVP" <harry---[ at ]webtree.ca> wrote in message >>> news:ezQphQ4rHHA.4548[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> If you drop the system out a 5th floor window you go an buy another >>>> system. As for replacing components you can upgrade whatever you deem >>>> necessary without violating the OEM EULA with the exception of >>>> replacing the motherboard. Replacing the motherboard is considered, or >>>> "deemed" as being a new system and you need a new license. >>>> >>>> Personally I advise people who believe that they may be upgrading >>>> hardware on a regular basis to steer away from OEM versions. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User] >>>> >>>> >>>> "Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer[ at ]PNB.Retired_1987> wrote in message >>>> news:1375i644ck3ed67[ at ]corp.supernews.com... >>>>> Can you replace any parts that fail in the original computer? Or the >>>>> number of parts that fail or can't provide for the needs of software >>>>> you want to use on the system? >>>>> >>>>> (power supply today, motherboard tomorrow, hard drive the next day and >>>>> gee look what happened to the case when I accidentally dropped it out >>>>> of the fifth floor window!) >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Don >>>>> Vancouver, USA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Malke" <notreally[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> news:uNMVHX2rHHA.500[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>> everett williams wrote: >>>>>>> My laptop system no longer works. I originally installed a licensed >>>>>>> copy of XP on it. Since Microsoft requires activation of this >>>>>>> product and that process tethers it to the specific system you're >>>>>>> using it on, am I prevented from reusing this licensed copy of XP >>>>>>> on another system I may purchase? >>>>>> >>>>>> Did you purchase a retail copy or an OEM copy? A "licensed copy" >>>>>> means nothing. If it was retail, you can install it on whatever >>>>>> machine you want. If it was OEM, it is tied to the machine on which >>>>>> you originally installed it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Malke >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Elephant Boy Computers >>>>>> www.elephantboycomputers.com >>>>>> "Don't Panic!" >>>>>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

Re: reinstallation of xp on another system "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM[ at ]myrealboxXYZ.invalid> 6/16/2007 1:41:30 PM DL wrote: [Quoted Text] > That definition is not legally enforceable over here, EU. (assuming a > retail OEM not supplier specific OEM) "Retail OEM"? What's that? Something like "jumbo shrimp"? ;-)

Re: reinstallation of xp on another system "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders[ at ]mvps.org> 6/16/2007 3:38:34 PM "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM[ at ]myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message news:%23IjppvBsHHA.532[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > DL wrote: >> That definition is not legally enforceable over here, EU. (assuming a >> retail OEM not supplier specific OEM) > > "Retail OEM"? What's that? Something like "jumbo shrimp"? ;-) > > A generic OEM CD purchasable with hardware from many places. -- Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM Do not send mail.