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Virus or Trojan or ?
"J&P" <jopam[ at ]beeteeinternet.com> 6/14/2007 9:03:17 AM
Yestday my PC just suddenly started printing line after line of dashes,
from top of screen, overwriting the existing text etc. This was not
peculiar to any particular program - it happened in MSworks, Internet
Explorer, Microsoft explorer etc.

It only deleted the contents of the screen and not any actual files.
Also, pressing the delete key, halted the process and I could then
delete dashes by using the backspacer key.

After 2 or 3 repeated occurences of this, it stopped as suddenly as it
had appeared.

I twice carried out a thorough Avast virus scan in safe and normal mode,
but each time it showed a clean system. ( Yesterday was the 13th, any
relevance?)

Advice appreciated.

Many thanks,

Joe Steele



Re: Virus or Trojan or ?
Jackson <jacXkdinsss[ at ]hotmail.com> 6/14/2007 10:00:21 AM
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:03:17 +0100, "J&P" <jopam[ at ]beeteeinternet.com>
wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>Yestday my PC just suddenly started printing line after line of dashes,
>from top of screen, overwriting the existing text etc. This was not
>peculiar to any particular program - it happened in MSworks, Internet
>Explorer, Microsoft explorer etc.
>
>It only deleted the contents of the screen and not any actual files.
>Also, pressing the delete key, halted the process and I could then
>delete dashes by using the backspacer key.
>
>After 2 or 3 repeated occurences of this, it stopped as suddenly as it
>had appeared.
>
>I twice carried out a thorough Avast virus scan in safe and normal mode,
>but each time it showed a clean system. ( Yesterday was the 13th, any
>relevance?)
>
>Advice appreciated.
>
>Many thanks,
>
>Joe Steele

Could it have been a stuck key on your keyboard? Just a guess.

>
>

Re: Virus or Trojan or ?
"J&P" <jopam[ at ]beeteeinternet.com> 6/14/2007 10:41:07 AM

"Jackson" <jacXkdinsss[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:pb4273l6c22s08ndlnb9npacvbb1r53e01[ at ]4ax.com...
[Quoted Text]
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:03:17 +0100, "J&P" <jopam[ at ]beeteeinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Yestday my PC just suddenly started printing line after line of
>>dashes,
>>from top of screen, overwriting the existing text etc. This was not
>>peculiar to any particular program - it happened in MSworks,
>>Internet
>>Explorer, Microsoft explorer etc.
>>
>>It only deleted the contents of the screen and not any actual files.
>>Also, pressing the delete key, halted the process and I could then
>>delete dashes by using the backspacer key.
>>
>>After 2 or 3 repeated occurences of this, it stopped as suddenly as it
>>had appeared.
>>
>>I twice carried out a thorough Avast virus scan in safe and normal
>>mode,
>>but each time it showed a clean system. ( Yesterday was the 13th, any
>>relevance?)
>>
>>Advice appreciated.
>>
>>Many thanks,
>>
>>Joe Steele
>

> Could it have been a stuck key on your keyboard? Just a guess.

I don't think so. If I hold any key down when, for instance, I have an
Internet Explorer screen showing, I don't get any repeated key strokes
or any other effect.

Thanks, anyway.

Joe Steele


Re: Virus or Trojan or ?
"SingaporeWebDesign" <SingaporeWebDesign_ng2[ at ]bootstrike.com> 6/14/2007 6:39:38 PM
Hello,

Sounds like a display or hardware issue. I suspect it to be the video card
malfunctioning.

Try updating the drivers for your video card. If problems persist, try
swapping the video card for another one.

--
Singapore Website Design
http://www.bootstrike.com/Webdesign/
Singapore Web Hosting
http://www.bootstrike.com/WinXP/faq.html
Windows XP FAQ

"J&P" <jopam[ at ]beeteeinternet.com> wrote in message
news:ukjC0LmrHHA.5028[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Yestday my PC just suddenly started printing line after line of dashes,
> from top of screen, overwriting the existing text etc. This was not
> peculiar to any particular program - it happened in MSworks, Internet
> Explorer, Microsoft explorer etc.
>
> It only deleted the contents of the screen and not any actual files. Also,
> pressing the delete key, halted the process and I could then delete dashes
> by using the backspacer key.
>
> After 2 or 3 repeated occurences of this, it stopped as suddenly as it had
> appeared.
>
> I twice carried out a thorough Avast virus scan in safe and normal mode,
> but each time it showed a clean system. ( Yesterday was the 13th, any
> relevance?)
>
> Advice appreciated.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Joe Steele
>
>
>


Re: Virus or Trojan or ?
"J&P" <jopam[ at ]beeteeinternet.com> 6/14/2007 7:02:09 PM
Thanks for the reply. Will try for up-to-date driver.

Regards,

Joe Steele


"SingaporeWebDesign" <SingaporeWebDesign_ng2[ at ]bootstrike.com> wrote in
message news:eaLPiPrrHHA.5032[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Hello,
>
> Sounds like a display or hardware issue. I suspect it to be the video
> card malfunctioning.
>
> Try updating the drivers for your video card. If problems persist, try
> swapping the video card for another one.
>
> --
> Singapore Website Design
> http://www.bootstrike.com/Webdesign/
> Singapore Web Hosting
> http://www.bootstrike.com/WinXP/faq.html
> Windows XP FAQ
>
> "J&P" <jopam[ at ]beeteeinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:ukjC0LmrHHA.5028[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Yestday my PC just suddenly started printing line after line of
>> dashes, from top of screen, overwriting the existing text etc. This
>> was not peculiar to any particular program - it happened in
>> MSworks, Internet Explorer, Microsoft explorer etc.
>>
>> It only deleted the contents of the screen and not any actual files.
>> Also, pressing the delete key, halted the process and I could then
>> delete dashes by using the backspacer key.
>>
>> After 2 or 3 repeated occurences of this, it stopped as suddenly as
>> it had appeared.
>>
>> I twice carried out a thorough Avast virus scan in safe and normal
>> mode, but each time it showed a clean system. ( Yesterday was the
>> 13th, any relevance?)
>>
>> Advice appreciated.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Joe Steele
>>
>>
>>
>
>


Re: Virus or Trojan or ?
"Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed[ at ]example.com> 6/14/2007 7:21:04 PM
'J&P' wrote, in part:
| Yestday my PC just suddenly started printing line after line of dashes,
| from top of screen, overwriting the existing text etc. This was not
| peculiar to any particular program - it happened in MSworks, Internet
| Explorer, Microsoft explorer etc.
|
| It only deleted the contents of the screen and not any actual files.
| Also, pressing the delete key, halted the process and I could then
| delete dashes by using the backspacer key.
..
..
_____

Faulty keyboard? An intermittently stuck "-" key would be the most likely
cause. It is particularly hard to diagnose an intermittent problem, but
short of replacing the keyboard on general principles, you could, the next
time the problem occurs, rapping the edge of the keyboard (or lifting the
edge and letting it drop four inches - that sort of thing) and checking the
effect.

I suggest this because it is the simplest way to account for what you have
presented in your post.

Phil Weldon

"J&P" <jopam[ at ]beeteeinternet.com> wrote in message
news:ukjC0LmrHHA.5028[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| Yestday my PC just suddenly started printing line after line of dashes,
| from top of screen, overwriting the existing text etc. This was not
| peculiar to any particular program - it happened in MSworks, Internet
| Explorer, Microsoft explorer etc.
|
| It only deleted the contents of the screen and not any actual files.
| Also, pressing the delete key, halted the process and I could then
| delete dashes by using the backspacer key.
|
| After 2 or 3 repeated occurences of this, it stopped as suddenly as it
| had appeared.
|
| I twice carried out a thorough Avast virus scan in safe and normal mode,
| but each time it showed a clean system. ( Yesterday was the 13th, any
| relevance?)
|
| Advice appreciated.
|
| Many thanks,
|
| Joe Steele
|
|
|


Re: Virus or Trojan or ?
Sharon F <sharonfDEL[ at ]ETEmvps.org> 6/14/2007 9:18:20 PM
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:03:17 +0100, J&P wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Yestday my PC just suddenly started printing line after line of dashes,
> from top of screen, overwriting the existing text etc. This was not
> peculiar to any particular program - it happened in MSworks, Internet
> Explorer, Microsoft explorer etc.
>
> It only deleted the contents of the screen and not any actual files.
> Also, pressing the delete key, halted the process and I could then
> delete dashes by using the backspacer key.
>
> After 2 or 3 repeated occurences of this, it stopped as suddenly as it
> had appeared.
>
> I twice carried out a thorough Avast virus scan in safe and normal mode,
> but each time it showed a clean system. ( Yesterday was the 13th, any
> relevance?)
>
> Advice appreciated.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Joe Steele

When this happens here, it means the cat is messing around with the
keyboard again. Which reminds me: something as simple as a bit of cat hair
or a bit of cellophane stuck under a key can cause this behavior. On some
keyboards it doesn't take much to make "contact" and the result will be
undesired output from the keyboard.

Shut down. Disconnect the keyboard. Shake it out - hard! If you have some
canned air on hand, blast it around the crevices being careful not to spray
too close (avoid condensation). As long as you're cleaning, wipe down the
keys, and if applicable - use something neutral such as a wooden or plastic
toothpick to dislodge extra nasty stuff.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User
Re: Virus or Trojan or ?
"SingaporeWebDesign" <SingaporeWebDesign_ng2[ at ]bootstrike.com> 6/15/2007 5:48:10 AM
Hello,

Sorry, I just read your reply in more depth and think you should follow the
other people's advice.

The video card is definitely out of here - it is a keyboard issue.
--
Singapore Website Design
http://www.bootstrike.com/Webdesign/
Singapore Web Hosting
http://www.bootstrike.com/WinXP/faq.html
Windows XP FAQ

"J&P" <jopam[ at ]beeteeinternet.com> wrote in message
news:OvSmXarrHHA.884[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Thanks for the reply. Will try for up-to-date driver.
>
> Regards,
>
> Joe Steele
>
>
> "SingaporeWebDesign" <SingaporeWebDesign_ng2[ at ]bootstrike.com> wrote in
> message news:eaLPiPrrHHA.5032[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Hello,
>>
>> Sounds like a display or hardware issue. I suspect it to be the video
>> card malfunctioning.
>>
>> Try updating the drivers for your video card. If problems persist, try
>> swapping the video card for another one.
>>
>> --
>> Singapore Website Design
>> http://www.bootstrike.com/Webdesign/
>> Singapore Web Hosting
>> http://www.bootstrike.com/WinXP/faq.html
>> Windows XP FAQ
>>
>> "J&P" <jopam[ at ]beeteeinternet.com> wrote in message
>> news:ukjC0LmrHHA.5028[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Yestday my PC just suddenly started printing line after line of dashes,
>>> from top of screen, overwriting the existing text etc. This was not
>>> peculiar to any particular program - it happened in MSworks, Internet
>>> Explorer, Microsoft explorer etc.
>>>
>>> It only deleted the contents of the screen and not any actual files.
>>> Also, pressing the delete key, halted the process and I could then
>>> delete dashes by using the backspacer key.
>>>
>>> After 2 or 3 repeated occurences of this, it stopped as suddenly as it
>>> had appeared.
>>>
>>> I twice carried out a thorough Avast virus scan in safe and normal mode,
>>> but each time it showed a clean system. ( Yesterday was the 13th, any
>>> relevance?)
>>>
>>> Advice appreciated.
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>>
>>> Joe Steele
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


Re: Virus or Trojan or ?
"J&P" <jopam[ at ]beeteeinternet.com> 6/15/2007 3:07:51 PM
Thanks SWD but no apology necessary, I have the latest driver now.

Regards,
Joe Steele

"SingaporeWebDesign" <SingaporeWebDesign_ng2[ at ]bootstrike.com> wrote in
message news:%2375mGFxrHHA.4764[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Hello,
>
> Sorry, I just read your reply in more depth and think you should
> follow the other people's advice.
>
> The video card is definitely out of here - it is a keyboard issue.
> --
> Singapore Website Design
> http://www.bootstrike.com/Webdesign/
> Singapore Web Hosting
> http://www.bootstrike.com/WinXP/faq.html
> Windows XP FAQ
>
> "J&P" <jopam[ at ]beeteeinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:OvSmXarrHHA.884[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks for the reply. Will try for up-to-date driver.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Joe Steele
>>
>>
>> "SingaporeWebDesign" <SingaporeWebDesign_ng2[ at ]bootstrike.com> wrote in
>> message news:eaLPiPrrHHA.5032[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Sounds like a display or hardware issue. I suspect it to be the
>>> video card malfunctioning.
>>>
>>> Try updating the drivers for your video card. If problems persist,
>>> try swapping the video card for another one.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Singapore Website Design
>>> http://www.bootstrike.com/Webdesign/
>>> Singapore Web Hosting
>>> http://www.bootstrike.com/WinXP/faq.html
>>> Windows XP FAQ
>>>
>>> "J&P" <jopam[ at ]beeteeinternet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ukjC0LmrHHA.5028[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Yestday my PC just suddenly started printing line after line of
>>>> dashes, from top of screen, overwriting the existing text etc.
>>>> This was not peculiar to any particular program - it happened in
>>>> MSworks, Internet Explorer, Microsoft explorer etc.
>>>>
>>>> It only deleted the contents of the screen and not any actual
>>>> files. Also, pressing the delete key, halted the process and I
>>>> could then delete dashes by using the backspacer key.
>>>>
>>>> After 2 or 3 repeated occurences of this, it stopped as suddenly as
>>>> it had appeared.
>>>>
>>>> I twice carried out a thorough Avast virus scan in safe and normal
>>>> mode, but each time it showed a clean system. ( Yesterday was the
>>>> 13th, any relevance?)
>>>>
>>>> Advice appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Joe Steele
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: Virus or Trojan or ?
"J&P" <jopam[ at ]beeteeinternet.com> 6/15/2007 3:26:17 PM

"Sharon F" <sharonfDEL[ at ]ETEmvps.org> wrote in message
news:u0VFQmsrHHA.4676[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:03:17 +0100, J&P wrote:
>
>> Yestday my PC just suddenly started printing line after line of
>> dashes,
>> from top of screen, overwriting the existing text etc. This was not
>> peculiar to any particular program - it happened in MSworks,
>> Internet
>> Explorer, Microsoft explorer etc.
>>
>> It only deleted the contents of the screen and not any actual files.
>> Also, pressing the delete key, halted the process and I could then
>> delete dashes by using the backspacer key.
>>
>> After 2 or 3 repeated occurences of this, it stopped as suddenly as
>> it
>> had appeared.
>>
>> I twice carried out a thorough Avast virus scan in safe and normal
>> mode,
>> but each time it showed a clean system. ( Yesterday was the 13th,
>> any
>> relevance?)
>>
>> Advice appreciated.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Joe Steele
>
> When this happens here, it means the cat is messing around with the
> keyboard again. Which reminds me: something as simple as a bit of cat
> hair
> or a bit of cellophane stuck under a key can cause this behavior. On
> some
> keyboards it doesn't take much to make "contact" and the result will
> be
> undesired output from the keyboard.
>
> Shut down. Disconnect the keyboard. Shake it out - hard! If you have
> some
> canned air on hand, blast it around the crevices being careful not to
> spray
> too close (avoid condensation). As long as you're cleaning, wipe down
> the
> keys, and if applicable - use something neutral such as a wooden or
> plastic
> toothpick to dislodge extra nasty stuff.

Had no further problems but have dissembled and thoroughly cleaned
keyboard.

I can simulate the problem in MSworks SS & WP, by holding the key down,
because the keystoke command is accepted without clicking on the screen.
But not in Windows Explorer or internet Explorer without clicking in the
typing area. Does that make sense?

As you, Sharon, and Jackson and Phil Weldon point out, it must be the
keyboard, and hopefully it was just a one-off occurrence, now.

Thanks for your replies. I can rest easy now.

--
Regards
Joe Steele


Re: Virus or Trojan or ?
Sharon F <sharonfDEL[ at ]ETEmvps.org> 6/17/2007 2:38:29 AM
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:26:17 +0100, J&P wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> As you, Sharon, and Jackson and Phil Weldon point out, it must be the
> keyboard, and hopefully it was just a one-off occurrence, now.
>
> Thanks for your replies. I can rest easy now.

Stranger things have happened. Glad to hear all seems to be okay once
again.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User

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