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Hi all.
I am not sure what microsofts position is on this.
Are you allowed to make a single backup copy of your original Windows XP
disk for security purposes?
If you are allowed is it Possible?
If it is possible how do you do it??
Thanks
Dominic Coombe
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Dominiccoombe wrote:
[Quoted Text] > I am not sure what microsofts position is on this.
>
> Are you allowed to make a single backup copy of your original
> Windows XP disk for security purposes?
>
> If you are allowed is it Possible?
>
> If it is possible how do you do it??
Just like any of your other CDs/DVDs/Tapes/Whatever - you are ENCOURAGED to
make a duplicate copy for archival purposes.
You would use your third party CD/DVD burning/copy application to replicate
the CD or find instructions on the Internet (using Google or your favorite
search engine) on how to not only make a copy of it - but slipstream
(integrate) service packs and many security updates into a new copy of your
original CD/DVD for installation - saving you time and effort if you ever
have to install from that CD/DVD.
--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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"Shenan Stanley" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Dominiccoombe wrote: > > I am not sure what microsofts position is on this. > > > > Are you allowed to make a single backup copy of your original > > Windows XP disk for security purposes? > > > > If you are allowed is it Possible? > > > > If it is possible how do you do it?? > > Just like any of your other CDs/DVDs/Tapes/Whatever - you are ENCOURAGED to > make a duplicate copy for archival purposes. > > You would use your third party CD/DVD burning/copy application to replicate > the CD or find instructions on the Internet (using Google or your favorite > search engine) on how to not only make a copy of it - but slipstream > (integrate) service packs and many security updates into a new copy of your > original CD/DVD for installation - saving you time and effort if you ever > have to install from that CD/DVD. > > -- > Shenan Stanley > MS-MVP > -- > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > > |
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I would like to backup my full system on a CD, but my System Tools in
Accessories offer backup options for floppy disks on A: drive or tapes on F:
drive. Floppies are too small and I do not have F: drive. I have a CD
burner. Is it possible to backup on a CD without additional software?
[Quoted Text] > > > "Shenan Stanley" wrote: > > > Dominiccoombe wrote: > > > I am not sure what microsofts position is on this. > > > > > > Are you allowed to make a single backup copy of your original > > > Windows XP disk for security purposes? > > > > > > If you are allowed is it Possible? > > > > > > If it is possible how do you do it?? > > > > Just like any of your other CDs/DVDs/Tapes/Whatever - you are ENCOURAGED to > > make a duplicate copy for archival purposes. > > > > You would use your third party CD/DVD burning/copy application to replicate > > the CD or find instructions on the Internet (using Google or your favorite > > search engine) on how to not only make a copy of it - but slipstream > > (integrate) service packs and many security updates into a new copy of your > > original CD/DVD for installation - saving you time and effort if you ever > > have to install from that CD/DVD. > > > > -- > > Shenan Stanley > > MS-MVP > > -- > > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way > > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > > > > > |
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ShaRRon wrote:
[Quoted Text] > I would like to backup my full system on a CD, but my System Tools
> in Accessories offer backup options for floppy disks on A: drive or
> tapes on F: drive. Floppies are too small and I do not have F:
> drive. I have a CD burner. Is it possible to backup on a CD
> without additional software?
NTBACKUP included with Windows XP cannot write directly to CD/DVD.
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Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
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How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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"Dominiccoombe" <Dominiccoombe[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2A4008E4-B450-42EA-82B1-982C88C4D6A6[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Hi all.
>
> I am not sure what microsofts position is on this.
>
> Are you allowed to make a single backup copy of your original Windows XP
> disk for security purposes?
Yes you can.
You can also slipstream your copy to update it.
>
> If you are allowed is it Possible?
Sure is, in fact it's pretty easy.
> If it is possible how do you do it??
You use CD burning software that allows for creation of exact copies of a
disk. Simply make a copy of the CD.
Simply copying files will *not* make this work, as there are key boot files
you can't see in specific locations you can't control with simple copying.
It's not a bad idea to burn at low speed, as this can help maintain
integrity.
To test, insert the finished CD, shut down your system, and restart it. As
long as your system is set to boot from CD, it will start into Setup. You
can cancel at the first opportunity; the CD is working.
HTH
-pk
>
> Thanks
>
> Dominic Coombe
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What is "slipstream"?
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Don
Vancouver, USA
"Patrick Keenan" <test[ at ]dev.null> wrote in message
news:uoz7EK5tHHA.1768[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > "Dominiccoombe" <Dominiccoombe[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2A4008E4-B450-42EA-82B1-982C88C4D6A6[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I am not sure what microsofts position is on this.
>>
>> Are you allowed to make a single backup copy of your original Windows XP
>> disk for security purposes?
>
> Yes you can.
>
> You can also slipstream your copy to update it.
>
>>
>> If you are allowed is it Possible?
>
> Sure is, in fact it's pretty easy.
>
>> If it is possible how do you do it??
>
> You use CD burning software that allows for creation of exact copies of a
> disk. Simply make a copy of the CD.
>
> Simply copying files will *not* make this work, as there are key boot
> files
> you can't see in specific locations you can't control with simple copying.
>
> It's not a bad idea to burn at low speed, as this can help maintain
> integrity.
>
> To test, insert the finished CD, shut down your system, and restart it.
> As
> long as your system is set to boot from CD, it will start into Setup. You
> can cancel at the first opportunity; the CD is working.
>
> HTH
> -pk
>
>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Dominic Coombe
>
>
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On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:08:34 -0700, "Don Schmidt" <Don
Engineer[ at ]PNB.Retired_1987> wrote:
[Quoted Text] > What is "slipstream"?
The word "slipstreaming" was originally used to refer to the practice
of many software manufacturers of including updates to their product
on the distribution CD without any real announcement of what they were
doing or differentiation of the various kind of CDs. It was always a
disparaging term because it was poor practice. It was used as a way
for the manufacturer not to have to print a different box, manual,
etc. for the updated version, and to sell older stock that didn't
appear to be outdated, but actually was. That saved them money, but it
left the customer unable to tell whether he was buying the new version
or the old.
Somewhere along the line, people started creating their own updated
versions of some software, by merging the update files with the
original CD. Someone got the bright idea to call it by the same name
"slipstreaming," without realizing that the name was originally used
in a disparaging way.
The term stuck. I dislike the use of the word this way, but the
original meaning has been lost, so I long ago gave up trying to fight
it. Since everybody now uses it simply to mean a version with the
upgrade incorporated in it, I reluctantly go along.
So these days a slipstreamed copy of XP simply means an installation
CD that you've made yourself that incorporates an upgrade, such as
SP2.
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Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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Ken, Bruce,
Thanks for the explanations. I hope Microsoft offers a CD with the 60+
patches sometime before they terminate the support for XP.
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Don
Vancouver, USA
"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake[ at ]this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:v36183l3qpaekihq530br73klp20dno7ht[ at ]4ax.com...
[Quoted Text] > On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:08:34 -0700, "Don Schmidt" <Don
> Engineer[ at ]PNB.Retired_1987> wrote:
>
>> What is "slipstream"?
>
>
>
> The word "slipstreaming" was originally used to refer to the practice
> of many software manufacturers of including updates to their product
> on the distribution CD without any real announcement of what they were
> doing or differentiation of the various kind of CDs. It was always a
> disparaging term because it was poor practice. It was used as a way
> for the manufacturer not to have to print a different box, manual,
> etc. for the updated version, and to sell older stock that didn't
> appear to be outdated, but actually was. That saved them money, but it
> left the customer unable to tell whether he was buying the new version
> or the old.
>
> Somewhere along the line, people started creating their own updated
> versions of some software, by merging the update files with the
> original CD. Someone got the bright idea to call it by the same name
> "slipstreaming," without realizing that the name was originally used
> in a disparaging way.
>
> The term stuck. I dislike the use of the word this way, but the
> original meaning has been lost, so I long ago gave up trying to fight
> it. Since everybody now uses it simply to mean a version with the
> upgrade incorporated in it, I reluctantly go along.
>
> So these days a slipstreamed copy of XP simply means an installation
> CD that you've made yourself that incorporates an upgrade, such as
> SP2.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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Yes you can make a copy of your XP CD. To do that you will need third party
CD Burning software that has copying capabilities as XP's built in CD
Burning software cannot do this. There are many such commercial programs
such as Nero but there are good freeware alternatives. One excellent free
program is found here http://www.cdburnerxp.se/features.php Just make sure
you use the CD Copy function to copy your original disk then put it away and
use the copy if you need it.
You also ask about making a full system backup to CDs. Once again you need
third party software. There are many such programs which are typically
called imaging software as they create an exact duplicate or "image" of the
system. This image can be compressed and spanned across multiple discs to
create a set. When you restore the image you will need all of the discs in
the set. Remember that a typical blank CD-R will only hold 700MB of data. If
your system has a large drive filled with data you might find that you need
many, many CDs to create the set. If even one of the discs in the set
becomes damaged then the restore will not complete. You will also find that
a restore may take many hours if you have many discs to keep swapping in and
out of a drive. A better solution for creating full system backups is to use
DVD's which can hold as much as 8.5GB of data if you have a Dual Layer DVD
burner and Dual Layer discs or 4.5 GB on a standard DVD Burner.
However, in my opinion, the best approach to full system backups is to use
an external hard drive. Hard drive enclosures are very inexpensive and you
can purchase very large hard drives quite inexpensively. An external drive
plugs into a USB port and you simply use the Imaging software to dump the
image to the usb drive. You can then safely remove the drive and store it in
another location, off site, until it is needed. This way if you have an
extreme problem such as house fire, disaster, robbery or such you backup is
safe to be loaded back.
I use Acronis TrueImage for this purpose. I have several hard drive
enclosures. I make periodic system backups and swap the drives around. It is
a simple routine to get into.
--
Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
"Dominiccoombe" <Dominiccoombe[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2A4008E4-B450-42EA-82B1-982C88C4D6A6[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Hi all.
>
> I am not sure what microsofts position is on this.
>
> Are you allowed to make a single backup copy of your original Windows XP
> disk for security purposes?
>
> If you are allowed is it Possible?
>
> If it is possible how do you do it??
>
> Thanks
>
> Dominic Coombe
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"Harry Ohrn" <harry---[ at ]webtree.ca> wrote in message
news:OfkAeiAuHHA.3476[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > ... in my opinion, the best approach to full system backups is to use an
> external hard drive. Hard drive enclosures are very inexpensive and you
> can purchase very large hard drives quite inexpensively. An external drive
> plugs into a USB port and you simply use the Imaging software to dump the
> image to the usb drive. You can then safely remove the drive and store it
> in another location, off site, until it is needed. This way if you have an
> extreme problem such as house fire, disaster, robbery or such you backup
> is safe to be loaded back.
>
> I use Acronis TrueImage for this purpose. I have several hard drive
> enclosures. I make periodic system backups and swap the drives around. It
> is a simple routine to get into.
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
>
....
I use the same system. A question that's been in the back of my mind,
though, is whether a total-loss emergency such as loss of the internal
hard drive, followed by installing a new drive and using a rescue CD
to start recovery, leaves the USB port usables. On one of our machines,
the USB 2.0 ports are on an added card -- will a rescue CD be able
to access that card? Or will it give access only to the old slow USB
ports? Or, for that matter, _any_ USB ports?
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"Anthony Buckland" <anthonybucklandnospam[ at ]telus.net> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] >
> "Harry Ohrn" <harry---[ at ]webtree.ca> wrote in message
> news:OfkAeiAuHHA.3476[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> ... in my opinion, the best approach to full system backups is to use an
>> external hard drive. Hard drive enclosures are very inexpensive and you
>> can purchase very large hard drives quite inexpensively. An external
>> drive plugs into a USB port and you simply use the Imaging software to
>> dump the image to the usb drive. You can then safely remove the drive and
>> store it in another location, off site, until it is needed. This way if
>> you have an extreme problem such as house fire, disaster, robbery or such
>> you backup is safe to be loaded back.
>>
>> I use Acronis TrueImage for this purpose. I have several hard drive
>> enclosures. I make periodic system backups and swap the drives around. It
>> is a simple routine to get into.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
>> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
>>
> ...
>
>
> I use the same system. A question that's been in the back of my mind,
> though, is whether a total-loss emergency such as loss of the internal
> hard drive, followed by installing a new drive and using a rescue CD
> to start recovery, leaves the USB port usables. On one of our machines,
> the USB 2.0 ports are on an added card -- will a rescue CD be able
> to access that card? Or will it give access only to the old slow USB
> ports? Or, for that matter, _any_ USB ports?
Good question. I don't know if your add-on will be accessible but I've found
that mine is. I have an old PIII with integrated USB 1.0 and I have a PCI
USB 2.0 card added. Acronis TrueImage readily finds the USB 2.0 card when
booting with the Acronis bootable CD.
However I use USB enclosures which I add my own hard drive to, rather than
buying external drivers that are already prebuilt. That way, I can readily
open the enclosure and remove the drive then connect it as an internal drive
if the need arises.
--
Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
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"Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer[ at ]PNB.Retired_1987> wrote in message
news:138223djm0t3v42[ at ]corp.supernews.com...
[Quoted Text] > Ken, Bruce,
>
> Thanks for the explanations. I hope Microsoft offers a CD with the 60+
> patches sometime before they terminate the support for XP.
That will be called SP3, and it will be followed by another set of updates
to install...
-pk
>
> --
> Don
> Vancouver, USA
>
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake[ at ]this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:v36183l3qpaekihq530br73klp20dno7ht[ at ]4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:08:34 -0700, "Don Schmidt" <Don
>> Engineer[ at ]PNB.Retired_1987> wrote:
>>
>>> What is "slipstream"?
>>
>>
>>
>> The word "slipstreaming" was originally used to refer to the practice
>> of many software manufacturers of including updates to their product
>> on the distribution CD without any real announcement of what they were
>> doing or differentiation of the various kind of CDs. It was always a
>> disparaging term because it was poor practice. It was used as a way
>> for the manufacturer not to have to print a different box, manual,
>> etc. for the updated version, and to sell older stock that didn't
>> appear to be outdated, but actually was. That saved them money, but it
>> left the customer unable to tell whether he was buying the new version
>> or the old.
>>
>> Somewhere along the line, people started creating their own updated
>> versions of some software, by merging the update files with the
>> original CD. Someone got the bright idea to call it by the same name
>> "slipstreaming," without realizing that the name was originally used
>> in a disparaging way.
>>
>> The term stuck. I dislike the use of the word this way, but the
>> original meaning has been lost, so I long ago gave up trying to fight
>> it. Since everybody now uses it simply to mean a version with the
>> upgrade incorporated in it, I reluctantly go along.
>>
>> So these days a slipstreamed copy of XP simply means an installation
>> CD that you've made yourself that incorporates an upgrade, such as
>> SP2.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
>
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