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Compare fonts on similarity
"F.H. van Zelm" <fhvzelm[ at ]hotmail.com> 6/8/2007 9:11:01 PM
Hi,

Basics? I don't know.

Anyhow: I remember a button to compare fonts on similarity (Panose
information).
Now, this button has gone. I can't find it in View-Toolbars-Customize or any
other
command to change bars or views.

How to get it back?

--
Mvg, Frans


Re: Compare fonts on similarity
Malke <notreally[ at ]invalid.invalid> 6/8/2007 9:42:59 PM
F.H. van Zelm wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> Hi,
>
> Basics? I don't know.
>
> Anyhow: I remember a button to compare fonts on similarity (Panose
> information).
> Now, this button has gone. I can't find it in View-Toolbars-Customize or any
> other
> command to change bars or views.
>
> How to get it back?
>

AFAIK this isn't part of Windows. I believe you must have had a
third-party program that gave you this ability. A guess would be that it
came along with some printer drivers and perhaps you changed printers.


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Re: Compare fonts on similarity
"Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan[ at ]SBXXXIX.com> 6/8/2007 11:28:27 PM
In news:ekldqGhqHHA.484[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
F.H. van Zelm <fhvzelm[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> Hi,
>
> Basics? I don't know.
>
> Anyhow: I remember a button to compare fonts on similarity
> (Panose
> information).
> Now, this button has gone. I can't find it in
> View-Toolbars-Customize
> or any other
> command to change bars or views.
>
> How to get it back?

Go to Control Panel and double click Fonts.
Click on View on the Toolbar at the top of the window.
Select "View fonts by similarity" on the menu.
There's also an icon on the Toolbar of the Fonts folder you can
click on. Note the AB button in this image.

Windows XP Fonts folder
http://www.ascendercorp.com/fonthelp/graphics/fonts-folder-install.gif

Also, take a look at this article.

To find similar fonts
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/windows_fonts_similar.mspx?mfr=true

Good luck

Nepatsfan


Re: Compare fonts on similarity
Malke <notreally[ at ]invalid.invalid> 6/9/2007 3:03:02 AM
Nepatsfan wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> In news:ekldqGhqHHA.484[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
> F.H. van Zelm <fhvzelm[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Basics? I don't know.
>>
>> Anyhow: I remember a button to compare fonts on similarity
>> (Panose
>> information).
>> Now, this button has gone. I can't find it in
>> View-Toolbars-Customize
>> or any other
>> command to change bars or views.
>>
>> How to get it back?
>
> Go to Control Panel and double click Fonts.
> Click on View on the Toolbar at the top of the window.
> Select "View fonts by similarity" on the menu.
> There's also an icon on the Toolbar of the Fonts folder you can
> click on. Note the AB button in this image.
>
> Windows XP Fonts folder
> http://www.ascendercorp.com/fonthelp/graphics/fonts-folder-install.gif
>
> Also, take a look at this article.
>
> To find similar fonts
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/windows_fonts_similar.mspx?mfr=true
>
> Good luck
>
> Nepatsfan
>
>

Thanks for the great information, Nepatsfan!


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Re: Compare fonts on similarity
"F.H. van Zelm" <fhvzelm[ at ]hotmail.com> 6/9/2007 10:11:57 AM
Hi Nepatsfan,

What you tell, is exactly what I am looking for. My point was that this [AB]
button and the
command 'View-View fonts by similarity' have gone. I have a standard
Explorer
toolbar.

So again: How to get to get these commands back.

Frans

"Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan[ at ]SBXXXIX.com> schreef in bericht
news:uZr84SiqHHA.1220[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> In news:ekldqGhqHHA.484[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
> F.H. van Zelm <fhvzelm[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Basics? I don't know.
>>
>> Anyhow: I remember a button to compare fonts on similarity (Panose
>> information).
>> Now, this button has gone. I can't find it in View-Toolbars-Customize
>> or any other
>> command to change bars or views.
>>
>> How to get it back?
>
> Go to Control Panel and double click Fonts.
> Click on View on the Toolbar at the top of the window.
> Select "View fonts by similarity" on the menu.
> There's also an icon on the Toolbar of the Fonts folder you can click on.
> Note the AB button in this image.
>
> Windows XP Fonts folder
> http://www.ascendercorp.com/fonthelp/graphics/fonts-folder-install.gif
>
> Also, take a look at this article.
>
> To find similar fonts
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/windows_fonts_similar.mspx?mfr=true
>
> Good luck
>
> Nepatsfan
>


Re: Compare fonts on similarity
"F.H. van Zelm" <fhvzelm[ at ]hotmail.com> 6/9/2007 12:13:59 PM
Hi there,

Thanks for reply.

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I'll try again.

When I go to the Windows-Fonts folder, using either the Explorer or the
Control Panel, I see the standard Explorer toolbar with the standard
buttons. (And I added a few buttons by myself.)

Now, tipically in this Windows-Fonts folder, I used to see a special
button to compare fonts: the [AB]-button.
That button (and the identical command in View) has gone.

Question: how to regain that button?

I can't find it, not in the forlder properties, the custom buttons, nowhere,
not after resetting the toolbar, nothing. I must have done something stupid
(registry editing perhaps) but I am not aware of it.
If anybody can help ... Great!

Frans

"JD" <JD[ at ]example.invalid> schreef in bericht
news:%23mHCBsoqHHA.3448[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Click on View, Toolbars and select Standard Buttons.
>
> F.H. van Zelm wrote:
>> Hi Nepatsfan,
>>
>> What you tell, is exactly what I am looking for. My point was that this
>> [AB] button and the
>> command 'View-View fonts by similarity' have gone. I have a standard
>> Explorer
>> toolbar.
>>
>> So again: How to get to get these commands back.
>>
>> Frans
>>
>> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan[ at ]SBXXXIX.com> schreef in bericht
>> news:uZr84SiqHHA.1220[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> In news:ekldqGhqHHA.484[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
>>> F.H. van Zelm <fhvzelm[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Basics? I don't know.
>>>>
>>>> Anyhow: I remember a button to compare fonts on similarity (Panose
>>>> information).
>>>> Now, this button has gone. I can't find it in View-Toolbars-Customize
>>>> or any other
>>>> command to change bars or views.
>>>>
>>>> How to get it back?
>>> Go to Control Panel and double click Fonts.
>>> Click on View on the Toolbar at the top of the window.
>>> Select "View fonts by similarity" on the menu.
>>> There's also an icon on the Toolbar of the Fonts folder you can click
>>> on. Note the AB button in this image.
>>>
>>> Windows XP Fonts folder
>>> http://www.ascendercorp.com/fonthelp/graphics/fonts-folder-install.gif
>>>
>>> Also, take a look at this article.
>>>
>>> To find similar fonts
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/windows_fonts_similar.mspx?mfr=true
>>>
>>> Good luck
>>>
>>> Nepatsfan
>>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> JD..


Re: Compare fonts on similarity
JD <JD[ at ]example.invalid> 6/9/2007 12:40:11 PM
Click on View, Toolbars and select Standard Buttons.

F.H. van Zelm wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> Hi Nepatsfan,
>
> What you tell, is exactly what I am looking for. My point was that this [AB]
> button and the
> command 'View-View fonts by similarity' have gone. I have a standard
> Explorer
> toolbar.
>
> So again: How to get to get these commands back.
>
> Frans
>
> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan[ at ]SBXXXIX.com> schreef in bericht
> news:uZr84SiqHHA.1220[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> In news:ekldqGhqHHA.484[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
>> F.H. van Zelm <fhvzelm[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Basics? I don't know.
>>>
>>> Anyhow: I remember a button to compare fonts on similarity (Panose
>>> information).
>>> Now, this button has gone. I can't find it in View-Toolbars-Customize
>>> or any other
>>> command to change bars or views.
>>>
>>> How to get it back?
>> Go to Control Panel and double click Fonts.
>> Click on View on the Toolbar at the top of the window.
>> Select "View fonts by similarity" on the menu.
>> There's also an icon on the Toolbar of the Fonts folder you can click on.
>> Note the AB button in this image.
>>
>> Windows XP Fonts folder
>> http://www.ascendercorp.com/fonthelp/graphics/fonts-folder-install.gif
>>
>> Also, take a look at this article.
>>
>> To find similar fonts
>> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/windows_fonts_similar.mspx?mfr=true
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> Nepatsfan
>>
>
>

--
JD..
Re: Compare fonts on similarity
"Paul" <nospam[ at ]please.com> 6/9/2007 2:09:18 PM

"F.H. van Zelm" <fhvzelm[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uKuQ$$oqHHA.4132[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
<snip>
[Quoted Text]
> When I go to the Windows-Fonts folder, using either the Explorer or the
> Control Panel, I see the standard Explorer toolbar with the standard
> buttons. (And I added a few buttons by myself.)
>
> Now, tipically in this Windows-Fonts folder, I used to see a special
> button to compare fonts: the [AB]-button.
> That button (and the identical command in View) has gone.
>
> Question: how to regain that button?
>
<snip>

I am definitely not sure about my technique. But if it were me, I would:

1) Download and intsall the TweakUI for Windows XP PowerToy
(http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx).
(Already installed in my case.)
2) Select the Repair item.
3) Select the Repair Font Folder from the drop down list.
4) Click the Repair Now button.

No promises, but I hope this helps.

Paul


Re: Compare fonts on similarity
John John <audetweld[ at ]nbnet.nb.ca> 6/9/2007 2:25:06 PM
Read here:

Font management issues in Windows
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/faq/faq1c.htm


For the immediate problem at hand try here:

Missing Menu Commands in the Fonts Folder
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q133725

John


F.H. van Zelm wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Hi there,
>
> Thanks for reply.
>
> Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I'll try again.
>
> When I go to the Windows-Fonts folder, using either the Explorer or the
> Control Panel, I see the standard Explorer toolbar with the standard
> buttons. (And I added a few buttons by myself.)
>
> Now, tipically in this Windows-Fonts folder, I used to see a special
> button to compare fonts: the [AB]-button.
> That button (and the identical command in View) has gone.
>
> Question: how to regain that button?
>
> I can't find it, not in the forlder properties, the custom buttons, nowhere,
> not after resetting the toolbar, nothing. I must have done something stupid
> (registry editing perhaps) but I am not aware of it.
> If anybody can help ... Great!
>
> Frans
>
> "JD" <JD[ at ]example.invalid> schreef in bericht
> news:%23mHCBsoqHHA.3448[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>>Click on View, Toolbars and select Standard Buttons.
>>
>>F.H. van Zelm wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Nepatsfan,
>>>
>>>What you tell, is exactly what I am looking for. My point was that this
>>>[AB] button and the
>>>command 'View-View fonts by similarity' have gone. I have a standard
>>>Explorer
>>>toolbar.
>>>
>>>So again: How to get to get these commands back.
>>>
>>>Frans
>>>
>>>"Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan[ at ]SBXXXIX.com> schreef in bericht
>>>news:uZr84SiqHHA.1220[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>>In news:ekldqGhqHHA.484[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
>>>>F.H. van Zelm <fhvzelm[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>Basics? I don't know.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyhow: I remember a button to compare fonts on similarity (Panose
>>>>>information).
>>>>>Now, this button has gone. I can't find it in View-Toolbars-Customize
>>>>>or any other
>>>>>command to change bars or views.
>>>>>
>>>>>How to get it back?
>>>>
>>>>Go to Control Panel and double click Fonts.
>>>>Click on View on the Toolbar at the top of the window.
>>>>Select "View fonts by similarity" on the menu.
>>>>There's also an icon on the Toolbar of the Fonts folder you can click
>>>>on. Note the AB button in this image.
>>>>
>>>>Windows XP Fonts folder
>>>>http://www.ascendercorp.com/fonthelp/graphics/fonts-folder-install.gif
>>>>
>>>>Also, take a look at this article.
>>>>
>>>>To find similar fonts
>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/windows_fonts_similar.mspx?mfr=true
>>>>
>>>>Good luck
>>>>
>>>>Nepatsfan
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>> JD..
>
>
>
Re: Compare fonts on similarity
"F.H. van Zelm" <fhvzelm[ at ]hotmail.com> 6/9/2007 3:25:47 PM
Hi John,

Thank you for answering.

I expect TweakUI (answer above) completed the repair as decribed in Q133725.

Frans

"John John" <audetweld[ at ]nbnet.nb.ca> schreef in bericht
news:ewk9iHqqHHA.4200[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Read here:
>
> Font management issues in Windows
> http://www.microsoft.com/typography/faq/faq1c.htm
>
>
> For the immediate problem at hand try here:
>
> Missing Menu Commands in the Fonts Folder
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q133725
>
> John
>
>
> F.H. van Zelm wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Thanks for reply.
>>
>> Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I'll try again.
>>
>> When I go to the Windows-Fonts folder, using either the Explorer or the
>> Control Panel, I see the standard Explorer toolbar with the standard
>> buttons. (And I added a few buttons by myself.)
>>
>> Now, tipically in this Windows-Fonts folder, I used to see a special
>> button to compare fonts: the [AB]-button.
>> That button (and the identical command in View) has gone.
>>
>> Question: how to regain that button?
>>
>> I can't find it, not in the forlder properties, the custom buttons,
>> nowhere,
>> not after resetting the toolbar, nothing. I must have done something
>> stupid
>> (registry editing perhaps) but I am not aware of it.
>> If anybody can help ... Great!
>>
>> Frans
>>
>> "JD" <JD[ at ]example.invalid> schreef in bericht
>> news:%23mHCBsoqHHA.3448[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>Click on View, Toolbars and select Standard Buttons.
>>>
>>>F.H. van Zelm wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi Nepatsfan,
>>>>
>>>>What you tell, is exactly what I am looking for. My point was that this
>>>>[AB] button and the
>>>>command 'View-View fonts by similarity' have gone. I have a standard
>>>>Explorer
>>>>toolbar.
>>>>
>>>>So again: How to get to get these commands back.
>>>>
>>>>Frans
>>>>
>>>>"Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan[ at ]SBXXXIX.com> schreef in bericht
>>>>news:uZr84SiqHHA.1220[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>>In news:ekldqGhqHHA.484[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
>>>>>F.H. van Zelm <fhvzelm[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Basics? I don't know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anyhow: I remember a button to compare fonts on similarity (Panose
>>>>>>information).
>>>>>>Now, this button has gone. I can't find it in View-Toolbars-Customize
>>>>>>or any other
>>>>>>command to change bars or views.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How to get it back?
>>>>>
>>>>>Go to Control Panel and double click Fonts.
>>>>>Click on View on the Toolbar at the top of the window.
>>>>>Select "View fonts by similarity" on the menu.
>>>>>There's also an icon on the Toolbar of the Fonts folder you can click
>>>>>on. Note the AB button in this image.
>>>>>
>>>>>Windows XP Fonts folder
>>>>>http://www.ascendercorp.com/fonthelp/graphics/fonts-folder-install.gif
>>>>>
>>>>>Also, take a look at this article.
>>>>>
>>>>>To find similar fonts
>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/windows_fonts_similar.mspx?mfr=true
>>>>>
>>>>>Good luck
>>>>>
>>>>>Nepatsfan
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>--
>>> JD..
>>
>>


Re: Compare fonts on similarity
"F.H. van Zelm" <fhvzelm[ at ]hotmail.com> 6/9/2007 3:26:12 PM
Hi Paul,

Thank you (and all others, that tok the tine to read, think and answer) for
the solution.

TweakUI did the job. I never thought of it for solving this kind of problem.

Discussion (thread) closed.

Frans

"Paul" <nospam[ at ]please.com> schreef in bericht
news:%231J1v%23pqHHA.3228[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
>
> "F.H. van Zelm" <fhvzelm[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uKuQ$$oqHHA.4132[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> <snip>
>> When I go to the Windows-Fonts folder, using either the Explorer or the
>> Control Panel, I see the standard Explorer toolbar with the standard
>> buttons. (And I added a few buttons by myself.)
>>
>> Now, tipically in this Windows-Fonts folder, I used to see a special
>> button to compare fonts: the [AB]-button.
>> That button (and the identical command in View) has gone.
>>
>> Question: how to regain that button?
>>
> <snip>
>
> I am definitely not sure about my technique. But if it were me, I would:
>
> 1) Download and intsall the TweakUI for Windows XP PowerToy
> (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx).
> (Already installed in my case.)
> 2) Select the Repair item.
> 3) Select the Repair Font Folder from the drop down list.
> 4) Click the Repair Now button.
>
> No promises, but I hope this helps.
>
> Paul
>
>



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