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My mobo has a setting to give an audible beep during startup when there
is a problem with the chipset fan (not running ??). I've only received this
warning twice over the past two weeks and I disabled the warning after
today.
I have ASUS Probe that gives data on fan speeds, voltages, and
temperatures. Each time I've got the "warning", I immediately fire up
ASUS Probe. Each time the data says all fans are fine, and running, and
so is everything else. Is this just a dirt/dust problem or is it something
more serious ?? TIA for all responses.
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Open the case and inspect the fans to verify they are running, check for
dust and even if there is only a small amount of dust you might as well
remove it before putting the cover back on.
JS
"Lolly" <ladderbpy[ at ]fakmail.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > My mobo has a setting to give an audible beep during startup when there
> is a problem with the chipset fan (not running ??). I've only received
> this
> warning twice over the past two weeks and I disabled the warning after
> today.
> I have ASUS Probe that gives data on fan speeds, voltages, and
> temperatures. Each time I've got the "warning", I immediately fire up
> ASUS Probe. Each time the data says all fans are fine, and running, and
> so is everything else. Is this just a dirt/dust problem or is it
> something
> more serious ?? TIA for all responses.
>
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Lolly wrote:
[Quoted Text] > My mobo has a setting to give an audible beep during startup when there
> is a problem with the chipset fan (not running ??). I've only received this
> warning twice over the past two weeks and I disabled the warning after
> today.
> I have ASUS Probe that gives data on fan speeds, voltages, and
> temperatures. Each time I've got the "warning", I immediately fire up
> ASUS Probe. Each time the data says all fans are fine, and running, and
> so is everything else. Is this just a dirt/dust problem or is it something
> more serious ?? TIA for all responses.
>
Have you opened the case and looked?
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In article <OJD9pa#oHHA.588[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,
bchambers[ at ]cable0ne.n3t says...
[Quoted Text] >
>
>Lolly wrote:
>> My mobo has a setting to give an audible beep during startup when there
>> is a problem with the chipset fan (not running ??). I've only received this
>> warning twice over the past two weeks and I disabled the warning after
>> today.
>> I have ASUS Probe that gives data on fan speeds, voltages, and
>> temperatures. Each time I've got the "warning", I immediately fire up
>> ASUS Probe. Each time the data says all fans are fine, and running, and
>> so is everything else. Is this just a dirt/dust problem or is it something
>> more serious ?? TIA for all responses.
>>
>
>
> Have you opened the case and looked?
>
This weekend. Have to get some compressed air, etc.
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Compressed air a complete waste of money.
"Lolly" <ladderbpy[ at ]fakmail.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > In article <OJD9pa#oHHA.588[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,
> bchambers[ at ]cable0ne.n3t says...
>>
>>
>>Lolly wrote:
>>> My mobo has a setting to give an audible beep during startup when there
>>> is a problem with the chipset fan (not running ??). I've only received
>>> this
>>> warning twice over the past two weeks and I disabled the warning after
>>> today.
>>> I have ASUS Probe that gives data on fan speeds, voltages, and
>>> temperatures. Each time I've got the "warning", I immediately fire up
>>> ASUS Probe. Each time the data says all fans are fine, and running, and
>>> so is everything else. Is this just a dirt/dust problem or is it
>>> something
>>> more serious ?? TIA for all responses.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Have you opened the case and looked?
>>
> This weekend. Have to get some compressed air, etc.
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"Unknown" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Compressed air a complete waste of money.
> "Lolly" <ladderbpy[ at ]fakmail.com> wrote in message
> news:jMS7i.225977$MW1.212015[ at ]fe03.news.easynews.com...
> > In article <OJD9pa#oHHA.588[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,
> > bchambers[ at ]cable0ne.n3t says...
> >>
> >>
> >>Lolly wrote:
> >>> My mobo has a setting to give an audible beep during startup when there
> >>> is a problem with the chipset fan (not running ??). I've only received
> >>> this
> >>> warning twice over the past two weeks and I disabled the warning after
> >>> today.
> >>> I have ASUS Probe that gives data on fan speeds, voltages, and
> >>> temperatures. Each time I've got the "warning", I immediately fire up
> >>> ASUS Probe. Each time the data says all fans are fine, and running, and
> >>> so is everything else. Is this just a dirt/dust problem or is it
> >>> something
> >>> more serious ?? TIA for all responses.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Have you opened the case and looked?
> >>
> > This weekend. Have to get some compressed air, etc.
> >
>
>
>
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"Unknown" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Compressed air a complete waste of money.
> "Lolly" <ladderbpy[ at ]fakmail.com> wrote in message
>snio
> > This weekend. Have to get some compressed air, etc.
Bad advice. Case hardware stays cooler when properly cleaned. I use a small
air compressor rather than buying cans. Added bonus; I can check my tires.
Also, make sure components are seated well while you have the case open.
One more tip: Most keyboards can be washed in running water if you give them
plenty of time to dry also!
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"Rhubarb" wrote:
Don't know where my last post went!
<snip
Bad advice. Hardware runs better and cooler when dust free. I use a small
compressor rather than canned air which is expensive. Also, I can fill my
auto tires...
Another tip, reseat components while in the case, using proper static control.
Lastly, most keyboards can be washed in lukewarm water if allowed to dry
properly.
bye
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 20:53:49 GMT, Lolly wrote:
[Quoted Text] > My mobo has a setting to give an audible beep during startup when there
> is a problem with the chipset fan (not running ??). I've only received this
> warning twice over the past two weeks and I disabled the warning after
> today.
> I have ASUS Probe that gives data on fan speeds, voltages, and
> temperatures. Each time I've got the "warning", I immediately fire up
> ASUS Probe. Each time the data says all fans are fine, and running, and
> so is everything else. Is this just a dirt/dust problem or is it something
> more serious ?? TIA for all responses.
Check the specs on your case. I have an Antec case that has variable speed
fans. Antec steps back the speed of the fan when "fast" is not needed. Asus
and Antec disagree on what the right speed is for startup. Occasionally
the alarm beeps even though the fans are in perfect condition.
If your case is similar, you may be running into the same situation.
Solution is to readjust the level of warning or, as you've done, disable
the warning. You'll want to check fans on a regular basis if you disable
the warning.
If you do not have a case that features variable fan speeds, then look
elsewhere for an explanation.
Dirt and dust are also a possible problem. Periodic cleaning is good
practice. Failing fans or fans that are worn and occasionally bind should
be replaced. Fans are relatively inexpensive parts. If a bad fan is ignored
instead of replaced, it can cause very expensive damage.
--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User
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Ridiculous! How much dust has to be present to raise the temperature 1
degree?
"Rhubarb" <Rhubarb[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] >
>
> "Unknown" wrote:
>
>> Compressed air a complete waste of money.
>> "Lolly" <ladderbpy[ at ]fakmail.com> wrote in message
>>snio
>> > This weekend. Have to get some compressed air, etc.
> Bad advice. Case hardware stays cooler when properly cleaned. I use a
> small
> air compressor rather than buying cans. Added bonus; I can check my tires.
> Also, make sure components are seated well while you have the case open.
> One more tip: Most keyboards can be washed in running water if you give
> them
> plenty of time to dry also!
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Unknown wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Ridiculous! How much dust has to be present to raise the temperature 1
> degree?
Very little. Also bear in mind that, even with the best of cooling,
the interior of the average PC will very quickly warm up to 40°F (22°C)
above room temperature, shortly after being turned on.
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"Unknown" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Ridiculous! How much dust has to be present to raise the temperature 1
> degree?
<snip
What is ridiculous is trolls such as yourself that waste newsgroup space
with nonsensical answers. I have seen computers so dirty that the fan blades
would not turn. Bet you don't check your car tires either...
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On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 12:26:58 -0600, Bruce Chambers
<bchambers[ at ]cable0ne.n3t> wrote:
[Quoted Text] >Unknown wrote:
>> Ridiculous! How much dust has to be present to raise the temperature 1
>> degree?
>
>
> Very little. Also bear in mind that, even with the best of cooling,
>the interior of the average PC will very quickly warm up to 40°F (22°C)
Typo? Calculation error? 40°F is about 4.4°C
>above room temperature, shortly after being turned on.
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Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
[Quoted Text] >
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>
> Typo? Calculation error? 40°F is about 4.4°C
>
If one is measuring on both scales starting from 0°, as if we were
discussing the climate, yes. But 40 degrees on the Fahrenheit scale is
roughly equivalent 22 degrees on the Celsius scale if one is simply
comparing the range (i.e., a range of 70° - 110°F would be roughly 21° -
43°C), starting at any point.
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On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 13:04:29 -0600, Bruce Chambers
<bchambers[ at ]cable0ne.n3t> wrote:
[Quoted Text] >Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
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>>
>>
>> Typo? Calculation error? 40°F is about 4.4°C
>>
>
> If one is measuring on both scales starting from 0°, as if we were
>discussing the climate, yes. But 40 degrees on the Fahrenheit scale is
>roughly equivalent 22 degrees on the Celsius scale if one is simply
>comparing the range (i.e., a range of 70° - 110°F would be roughly 21° -
>43°C), starting at any point.
Gotcha. Sorry for misunderstanding your intent.
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Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
[Quoted Text] >
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>
> Gotcha. Sorry for misunderstanding your intent.
>
No problem.
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In article <uqMGfYSpHHA.588[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,
sharonfDEL[ at ]ETEmvps.org says...
[Quoted Text] >
>
>On Thu, 31 May 2007 20:53:49 GMT, Lolly wrote:
>
>> My mobo has a setting to give an audible beep during startup when there
>> is a problem with the chipset fan (not running ??). I've only received this
>> warning twice over the past two weeks and I disabled the warning after
>> today.
>> I have ASUS Probe that gives data on fan speeds, voltages, and
>> temperatures. Each time I've got the "warning", I immediately fire up
>> ASUS Probe. Each time the data says all fans are fine, and running, and
>> so is everything else. Is this just a dirt/dust problem or is it something
>> more serious ?? TIA for all responses.
>
>Check the specs on your case. I have an Antec case that has variable speed
>fans. Antec steps back the speed of the fan when "fast" is not needed. Asus
>and Antec disagree on what the right speed is for startup. Occasionally
>the alarm beeps even though the fans are in perfect condition.
>
>If your case is similar, you may be running into the same situation.
>Solution is to readjust the level of warning or, as you've done, disable
>the warning. You'll want to check fans on a regular basis if you disable
>the warning.
>
>If you do not have a case that features variable fan speeds, then look
>elsewhere for an explanation.
>
>Dirt and dust are also a possible problem. Periodic cleaning is good
>practice. Failing fans or fans that are worn and occasionally bind should
>be replaced. Fans are relatively inexpensive parts. If a bad fan is ignored
>instead of replaced, it can cause very expensive damage.
>
Right now, at an ambient temp of 85, the CPU temp is 95F, the Mobo is 107F,
and the chipset fan is running at 5450rpm. I have seen the chipset fan run as
high as 6250 so, you are correct about the variable fan speeds. I do run
continuously, and check frequently, the ASUS Probe to make sure the fans are
operating and temps are reasonable. Appreciate your informative response.
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Boy: talk about trolls. Wasted newsgroup space?? How many electrons? Go out
and buy yourself some air.
"Rhubarb" <Rhubarb[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D7479459-F6B5-4DDA-8C26-13D5E9998A27[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] >
>
> "Unknown" wrote:
>
>> Ridiculous! How much dust has to be present to raise the temperature 1
>> degree?
> <snip
>
> What is ridiculous is trolls such as yourself that waste newsgroup space
> with nonsensical answers. I have seen computers so dirty that the fan
> blades
> would not turn. Bet you don't check your car tires either...
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That simply is not true Bruce. The microprocessor will indeed get about 40
Degrees F above room temperature but the case will not as long as the fans
are running. Dust has very little effect if the fans are running. If the fan
blades are very dirty they can be brushed off (no need to make someone rich
selling air). Proof-------put a thermometer in your case.
"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers[ at ]cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
news:%23Y7pcOUpHHA.588[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Unknown wrote: >> Ridiculous! How much dust has to be present to raise the temperature 1 >> degree? > > > Very little. Also bear in mind that, even with the best of cooling, the > interior of the average PC will very quickly warm up to 40°F (22°C) above > room temperature, shortly after being turned on. > > > > -- > > Bruce Chambers > > Help us help you: > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html> > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin > > Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand > Russell
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Unknown wrote:
[Quoted Text] > That simply is not true Bruce. The microprocessor will indeed get about 40
> Degrees F above room temperature but the case will not as long as the fans
> are running. Dust has very little effect if the fans are running. If the fan
> blades are very dirty they can be brushed off (no need to make someone rich
> selling air). Proof-------put a thermometer in your case.
You don't actually have any real experience supporting hundreds of PCs
in a mixed office and industrial environment, do you?
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On the contrary. Exactly why I say compressed air is a waste of money. Fans
are another story.
"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers[ at ]cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > Unknown wrote: >> That simply is not true Bruce. The microprocessor will indeed get about >> 40 Degrees F above room temperature but the case will not as long as the >> fans are running. Dust has very little effect if the fans are running. If >> the fan blades are very dirty they can be brushed off (no need to make >> someone rich selling air). Proof-------put a thermometer in your case. > > > You don't actually have any real experience supporting hundreds of PCs in > a mixed office and industrial environment, do you? > > > -- > > Bruce Chambers > > Help us help you: > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html> > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin > > Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand > Russell
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