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I've been playing around with both the 32 and 64 Bit versions of Vista
Ultimate on my new PC. The system specs are as follows;
CPU: Intel Q6600 (Quad Core 2.4)
MB: Intel DG965WH
RAM: 4Gb (1Gb Transcend PC 800MHz x 4)
Video: PNY 8800GTS
In Vista 32-Bit, System runs well (Good CPU Utilization) but will not see
all 4Gb RAM (3.2+GB Seen), system seems to be using a fair amount of RAM.
Windows Experience score Rates the CPU at 5.9
In Vista 64-Bit Systetm runs significantly slower than the 32-Bit version.
CPU Utilization near 50% with system at idle for all four cores. Running
simple software pegs all four cores at 100%. System sees all four Gb and RAM
utilization is better than in the 32-Bit. Windows Experience Score has
dropped the CPU to 4.6.
Two other IT people at work with similar system specs have the same problem
in 64-Bit Vista.
Anyone getting good results running 64-Bit Vista on an Intel Quad-core?
ajf
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Yes, but the 64-bit is so slow, that I can't even use Windows Explorer
effectivly. 32-Bit works like it should.
Also, why would my "Winodws Experience score" drop from 5.9 to 4.6 when
switching from 32 to 64-Bit.
"f/fgeorge" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 23:41:01 -0700, ajf <ajf[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
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> >I've been playing around with both the 32 and 64 Bit versions of Vista
> >Ultimate on my new PC. The system specs are as follows;
> >
> >CPU: Intel Q6600 (Quad Core 2.4)
> >MB: Intel DG965WH
> >RAM: 4Gb (1Gb Transcend PC 800MHz x 4)
> >Video: PNY 8800GTS
> >
> >In Vista 32-Bit, System runs well (Good CPU Utilization) but will not see
> >all 4Gb RAM (3.2+GB Seen), system seems to be using a fair amount of RAM.
> >Windows Experience score Rates the CPU at 5.9
> >
> >In Vista 64-Bit Systetm runs significantly slower than the 32-Bit version.
> >CPU Utilization near 50% with system at idle for all four cores. Running
> >simple software pegs all four cores at 100%. System sees all four Gb and RAM
> >utilization is better than in the 32-Bit. Windows Experience Score has
> >dropped the CPU to 4.6.
> >
> >Two other IT people at work with similar system specs have the same problem
> >in 64-Bit Vista.
> >
> >Anyone getting good results running 64-Bit Vista on an Intel Quad-core?
> >
> >ajf
> FIRST you need to learn to ignore the ram usage in Vista. Is is
> different than any OS before it. The more free ram you have means that
> Vista is not doing its job correctly. Ram is MUCH faster than
> harddrive speeds, therefore Vista is making use of the fast stuff and
> leaving the slower drives for XP.
> Second 32 bit systems have trouble with more than 3 gig of ram, just
> the way it is. Same system, 32 bit versus 64 bit, 32 bit has issues.
>
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Update to problem.
While searching the internet, I found that this is a common problem with the
Q6600 processor and more than 4gb of RAM. I removed two sticks of RAM and
the speed improved (Even the Windows Experience CPU score was back up to
5.9). I then added two additional 512 Sticks to make a total of 3Gb and fill
all four RAM slots. System is still working like it should.
So, it looks like Vista-64 Ultiimate has problems on computers with the
Q6600 and 4GB of RAM.
ajf
"ajf" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > I've been playing around with both the 32 and 64 Bit versions of Vista
> Ultimate on my new PC. The system specs are as follows;
>
> CPU: Intel Q6600 (Quad Core 2.4)
> MB: Intel DG965WH
> RAM: 4Gb (1Gb Transcend PC 800MHz x 4)
> Video: PNY 8800GTS
>
> In Vista 32-Bit, System runs well (Good CPU Utilization) but will not see
> all 4Gb RAM (3.2+GB Seen), system seems to be using a fair amount of RAM.
> Windows Experience score Rates the CPU at 5.9
>
> In Vista 64-Bit Systetm runs significantly slower than the 32-Bit version.
> CPU Utilization near 50% with system at idle for all four cores. Running
> simple software pegs all four cores at 100%. System sees all four Gb and RAM
> utilization is better than in the 32-Bit. Windows Experience Score has
> dropped the CPU to 4.6.
>
> Two other IT people at work with similar system specs have the same problem
> in 64-Bit Vista.
>
> Anyone getting good results running 64-Bit Vista on an Intel Quad-core?
>
> ajf
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Well, I don't think it's due to your processor, however I do think it is
either the board or vista. I as well have an intel dg965wh board with
4GB of OCZ DDR2 800MHZ RAM. Running in 32bit vista Business Edition, It
was perfect, though it only registered 3.2GB of RAM due to it being a
32bit OS. I Loaded in a 64bit version and my CPU usage went off the
charts, until I took out 2GB of RAM and since then it's been working
perfectly.
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I found other forums where people had the same problems with the Q6600, 4GB
RAM and most had the nVidia 8800 GTS/GTX. It was happening with Asus, MSI
and Intel boards. For some, downgrading the Bios a few versions to where the
user had more control over the "memory hole" area for the video card
corrected the problem. I will update the post with more URLs to the other
forums when I get back to work (I placed them in my favorites at the office)
AJF
"Moebius" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > > Well, I don't think it's due to your processor, however I do think it is > either the board or vista. I as well have an intel dg965wh board with > 4GB of OCZ DDR2 800MHZ RAM. Running in 32bit vista Business Edition, It > was perfect, though it only registered 3.2GB of RAM due to it being a > 32bit OS. I Loaded in a 64bit version and my CPU usage went off the > charts, until I took out 2GB of RAM and since then it's been working > perfectly. > > > -- > Moebius > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Moebius's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/member.php?userid=26606> View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=758425> > http://forums.techarena.in> > |
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I just built a system with a Q6600. I've got an Asus P5W DH Deluxe
board and 4 GB of RAM. I'm not having any speed issues so far. The CPU
is scoring 5.9 - and the RAM 5.5.
The system is still initializing the Raid volumes that I built with the
ICH7 Southbridge (having a Raid 5 volume and a Raid 1 volume on a
desktop is going to be nice).
The one catch I had when I started out was that the motherboard only
registered 3.2 GB of RAM as available until I went in and changed an
option to allow a 64 bit OS to see the entire RAM amount. That might be
a spot to look for in your BIOS if you're having issues with speed and 4
GB of RAM.
Bamf
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ajf;2925907 Wrote:
> I found other forums where people had the same problems with the Q6600,
> 4GB
[Quoted Text] > RAM and most had the nVidia 8800 GTS/GTX. It was happening with Asus,
> MSI > and Intel boards. For some, downgrading the Bios a few versions to
> where the > user had more control over the "memory hole" area for the video card > corrected the problem. I will update the post with more URLs to the
> other > forums when I get back to work (I placed them in my favorites at the
> office) > > > AJF > > > > "Moebius" wrote: > > > > > Well, I don't think it's due to your processor, however I do think it
> is > > either the board or vista. I as well have an intel dg965wh board
> with > > 4GB of OCZ DDR2 800MHZ RAM. Running in 32bit vista Business Edition,
> It > > was perfect, though it only registered 3.2GB of RAM due to it being
> a > > 32bit OS. I Loaded in a 64bit version and my CPU usage went off the > > charts, until I took out 2GB of RAM and since then it's been working > > perfectly. > > > > > > -- > > Moebius > >
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Alright, so on the Intel DG965WH boards, to run 64bit OS and have more
than 3GB without it slowing your system down you must downgrade to the
bios revision 1669...
Instructions:
http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/CS-023360.htm
Download Link:
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/download.aspx?url=/13084/eng/MQ1669P.BIO&agr=N&ProductID=2375&DwnldId=13084&strOSs=44&OSFullName=Windows*%20XP%20Professional&lang=eng
Sincerely,
Ben M
Intel(R) Technical Support
Intel(R) Desktop Board Support Web Site
http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/
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Hi,
2GB of ram is fine for x64 though the chief reason many use for installing
it is to use more than 4GB. How much you should have depends largely on your
use of the system. Gamers frequently find 4GB to be a sweet spot, and users
of autocad and video editing software can often take advantage of more. Keep
in mind though that memory at addresses above the 4GB mark cannot be used by
32 bit applications, so unless yours are designed to take advantage of x64
there's not much point to installing more than that amount.
That said, wait until after you install x64 to add the additional memory
(and it's a clean install, there is no upgrade path from 32 to 64 bit). The
reason being that there is a timing issue when all 4 ram slots are in use
during an x64 setup (it's not the amount of ram, but rather the number of
installed sticks that is the problem). Once installed, the timing is no
longer a problem.
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Best of Luck,
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http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
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