Activation Hell Guido 6/26/2007 7:53:02 PM Hello, I installed yesterday Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit and activated it right after. Everything looked good. Today I saw that the system thinks I have to Activate in 2 Days!! I tried over the Internet but Vista said, my key where allready registered. So I called Microsoft and aktivated again. Curious i began to explore the System Logs and i found in the Information logs all 5 Minutes Source Security-Licensing-SLC 1025 and 1024 Message: Hardware Changed and Activation Greed Time. After searching and trying I found out that this message disapears when i turn on my external USB-Disk!!!!!! But as soon i Turn of the external USB-Disk i get again this messages and i'm pretty sure i need soon to call Microsoft again for re-activation!! Please Fix that bug!

Activation Hell (cross post from installation_setup) "Mac" <mac[ at ]nospam.com> 6/27/2007 12:10:36 AM Yeah that sucks, there must be a solution to that! Will cross post it to general community newsgroup where more folks are active and maybe someone will find you an answer... I can imagine quite a few will relish discussing this... "Guido" <Guido[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:A0F31B39-C707-4F30-8734-CD0471C4201E[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Hello, > > I installed yesterday Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit and activated it right > after. > Everything looked good. > > Today I saw that the system thinks I have to Activate in 2 Days!! > > I tried over the Internet but Vista said, my key where allready > registered. > So I called Microsoft and aktivated again. > > Curious i began to explore the System Logs and i found in the Information > logs all 5 Minutes > > Source Security-Licensing-SLC 1025 and 1024 > > Message: Hardware Changed and Activation Greed Time. > > After searching and trying I found out that this message disapears when i > turn on my external USB-Disk!!!!!! > > But as soon i Turn of the external USB-Disk i get again this messages and > i'm pretty sure i need soon to call Microsoft again for re-activation!! > > Please Fix that bug! > >

Re: Activation Hell (cross post from installation_setup) "Peter Foldes" <okf22[ at ]hotmail.com> 6/27/2007 12:31:14 AM If you turn on your External USB HD then obviously Windows Vista detects a hardware change. Each and every time you do open Vista with the USB HD turned off it will detect a change and this goes for when you open with the ESB HD. To avoid this activate with the USB HD connected and on and leave it on. If you shut it off and then you boot without it being on you will go through the same cycle. One or the other. -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "Mac" <mac[ at ]nospam.com> wrote in message news:182D282D-136F-4F4E-AAFE-CACB0559F4FA[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Yeah that sucks, there must be a solution to that! Will cross post it to > general community newsgroup where more folks are active and maybe someone > will find you an answer... I can imagine quite a few will relish discussing > this... > > "Guido" <Guido[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:A0F31B39-C707-4F30-8734-CD0471C4201E[ at ]microsoft.com... >> Hello, >> >> I installed yesterday Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit and activated it right >> after. >> Everything looked good. >> >> Today I saw that the system thinks I have to Activate in 2 Days!! >> >> I tried over the Internet but Vista said, my key where allready >> registered. >> So I called Microsoft and aktivated again. >> >> Curious i began to explore the System Logs and i found in the Information >> logs all 5 Minutes >> >> Source Security-Licensing-SLC 1025 and 1024 >> >> Message: Hardware Changed and Activation Greed Time. >> >> After searching and trying I found out that this message disapears when i >> turn on my external USB-Disk!!!!!! >> >> But as soon i Turn of the external USB-Disk i get again this messages and >> i'm pretty sure i need soon to call Microsoft again for re-activation!! >> >> Please Fix that bug! >> >>

Re: Activation Hell (cross post from installation_setup) "NotMe" <cargodZeroOne[ at ]hotmail.com> 6/27/2007 1:09:52 AM So with Vista, normal computer useage requires reactivation. Why doesn't that surprise me? -- A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here! CarGodZeroOne[ at ]hotmail.com Change Alpha to Numeric to reply "Peter Foldes" <okf22[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message news:uqvbtJFuHHA.1184[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... If you turn on your External USB HD then obviously Windows Vista detects a hardware change. Each and every time you do open Vista with the USB HD turned off it will detect a change and this goes for when you open with the ESB HD. To avoid this activate with the USB HD connected and on and leave it on. If you shut it off and then you boot without it being on you will go through the same cycle. One or the other. -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "Mac" <mac[ at ]nospam.com> wrote in message news:182D282D-136F-4F4E-AAFE-CACB0559F4FA[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Yeah that sucks, there must be a solution to that! Will cross post it to > general community newsgroup where more folks are active and maybe someone > will find you an answer... I can imagine quite a few will relish > discussing > this... > > "Guido" <Guido[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:A0F31B39-C707-4F30-8734-CD0471C4201E[ at ]microsoft.com... >> Hello, >> >> I installed yesterday Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit and activated it right >> after. >> Everything looked good. >> >> Today I saw that the system thinks I have to Activate in 2 Days!! >> >> I tried over the Internet but Vista said, my key where allready >> registered. >> So I called Microsoft and aktivated again. >> >> Curious i began to explore the System Logs and i found in the Information >> logs all 5 Minutes >> >> Source Security-Licensing-SLC 1025 and 1024 >> >> Message: Hardware Changed and Activation Greed Time. >> >> After searching and trying I found out that this message disapears when i >> turn on my external USB-Disk!!!!!! >> >> But as soon i Turn of the external USB-Disk i get again this messages and >> i'm pretty sure i need soon to call Microsoft again for re-activation!! >> >> Please Fix that bug! >> >>

Re: Activation Hell (cross post from installation_setup) "Michael Solomon" <user[ at ]#notme.com> 6/27/2007 2:57:50 AM "NotMe" <cargodZeroOne[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ePHIgfFuHHA.5072[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > So with Vista, normal computer useage requires reactivation. Why doesn't > that surprise me? > I have three external hard drives, one I didn't own when I initially install Vista and is of a different hardware type than the other two and those two weren't turned on when I activated and I've never gotten a prompt from Vista when I turn any of them on or whether or not I boot with any of them on. To be clear however, I don't have an OEM version of Vista but I'm not sure that should make a difference either. If you're running Vista, you already would have mentioned such an issue if it was happening to you. I don't have any idea what is causing it to trigger activation and it's possible Peter's solution might otherwise allow the OP to run "normal" as you put it because if the devices are turned off, it won't make any difference and if they are turned on and the system was activated with those devices recognized initially, then he probably won't have any more trouble. -- Michael Solomon Backup is a PC user's best friend DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

Re: Activation Hell (cross post from installation_setup) The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy <nope[ at ]nope.not> 6/27/2007 3:44:32 AM Peter Foldes wrote: [Quoted Text] > If you turn on your External USB HD then obviously Windows Vista > detects a hardware change. Each and every time you do open Vista > with the USB HD turned off it will detect a change and this goes > for when you open with the ESB HD. > > To avoid this activate with the USB HD connected and on and leave > it on. If you shut it off and then you boot without it being on > you will go through the same cycle. One or the other. > OK, that's too much. Not even MS is that stupid to build activation to behave so, at least I have a hard time swallowing it. That has to be a bug. I can't imagine that they would build it that way by design. They would totally be shooting themselves in the foot by doing it this way. "Mac" <mac[ at ]nospam.com> wrote in message news:182D282D-136F-4F4E-AAFE-CACB0559F4FA[ at ]microsoft.com... > > Yeah that sucks, there must be a solution to that! Will cross post it to > > general community newsgroup where more folks are active and maybe someone > > will find you an answer... I can imagine quite a few will relish discussing > > this... > > > > "Guido" <Guido[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:A0F31B39-C707-4F30-8734-CD0471C4201E[ at ]microsoft.com... >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> I installed yesterday Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit and activated it right >> >> after. >> >> Everything looked good. >> >> >> >> Today I saw that the system thinks I have to Activate in 2 Days!! >> >> >> >> I tried over the Internet but Vista said, my key where allready >> >> registered. >> >> So I called Microsoft and aktivated again. >> >> >> >> Curious i began to explore the System Logs and i found in the Information >> >> logs all 5 Minutes >> >> >> >> Source Security-Licensing-SLC 1025 and 1024 >> >> >> >> Message: Hardware Changed and Activation Greed Time. >> >> >> >> After searching and trying I found out that this message disapears when i >> >> turn on my external USB-Disk!!!!!! >> >> >> >> But as soon i Turn of the external USB-Disk i get again this messages and >> >> i'm pretty sure i need soon to call Microsoft again for re-activation!! >> >> >> >> Please Fix that bug! >> >> >> >> -- Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group: http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks): "They hacked the Microsoft website to make it think a linux box was a windows box. Thats called hacking. People who do hacking are called hackers." "Good poets borrow; great poets steal." - T. S. Eliot

Re: Activation Hell (cross post from installation_setup) "Michael Solomon" <user[ at ]#notme.com> 6/27/2007 4:03:57 AM "> [Quoted Text] > OK, that's too much. Not even MS is that stupid to build activation to > behave so, at least I have a hard time swallowing it. That has to be a > bug. I can't imagine that they would build it that way by design. They > would totally be shooting themselves in the foot by doing it this way. > Check the following Knowledge Base article as it may help resolve the issue. Even if you don't have an OEM version as referenced in the title, there's some information in this article that not only might explain the issue but might also help resolve it regardless: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931573/en-us -- Michael Solomon Backup is a PC user's best friend DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

RE: Activation Hell (cross post from installation_setup) Guido 6/27/2007 5:26:00 AM Hello Mac, at the moment i'm not anylonger sure if that the messages realy stop when i activate the external USB drive. In the first place it looked like that because the message took longer to come again. But finaly they came... Here the Eventlog...sorry in german: Ebene Datum und Uhrzeit Quelle Ereignis-ID Aufgabenkategorie Informationen 26.06.2007 21:11:24 Microsoft-Windows-Security-Licensing-SLC 1025 Keine Der Aktivierungzeitraum hat begonnen. Tage zur Aktivierung=3 Aktivierungstyp=4. Informationen 26.06.2007 21:11:24 Microsoft-Windows-Security-Licensing-SLC 1024 Keine Die Hardware hat sich geändert. Informationen 26.06.2007 21:11:22 Microsoft-Windows-Security-Licensing-SLC 1025 Keine Der Aktivierungzeitraum hat begonnen. Tage zur Aktivierung=3 Aktivierungstyp=4. Informationen 26.06.2007 21:11:21 Microsoft-Windows-Security-Licensing-SLC 1024 Keine Die Hardware hat sich geändert. Informationen 26.06.2007 21:11:19 Microsoft-Windows-Security-Licensing-SLC 1025 Keine Der Aktivierungzeitraum hat begonnen. Tage zur Aktivierung=3 Aktivierungstyp=4. Informationen 26.06.2007 21:11:19 Microsoft-Windows-Security-Licensing-SLC 1024 Keine Die Hardware hat sich geändert. Informationen 26.06.2007 21:11:16 Microsoft-Windows-Security-Licensing-SLC 1025 Keine Der Aktivierungzeitraum hat begonnen. Tage zur Aktivierung=3 Aktivierungstyp=4. Informationen 26.06.2007 21:11:16 Microsoft-Windows-Security-Licensing-SLC 1024 Keine Die Hardware hat sich geändert. Informationen 26.06.2007 21:11:14 Microsoft-Windows-Security-Licensing-SLC 1025 Keine Der Aktivierungzeitraum hat begonnen. Tage zur Aktivierung=3 Aktivierungstyp=4. Informationen 26.06.2007 21:11:13 Microsoft-Windows-Security-Licensing-SLC 1024 Keine Die Hardware hat sich geändert. Informationen 26.06.2007 21:11:11 Microsoft-Windows-Security-Licensing-SLC 1025 Keine Der Aktivierungzeitraum hat begonnen. 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Informationen 26.06.2007 21:10:30 Microsoft-Windows-Security-Licensing-SLC 1025 Keine Der Aktivierungzeitraum hat begonnen. Tage zur Aktivierung=3 Aktivierungstyp=4. Informationen 26.06.2007 21:10:30 Microsoft-Windows-Security-Licensing-SLC 1024 Keine Die Hardware hat sich geändert. Informationen 26.06.2007 21:05:07 Microsoft-Windows-LoadPerf 1000 Keine Die Leistungsindikatoren für den Dienst WmiApRpl (WmiApRpl) wurden erfolgreich geladen. Die Eintragsdaten im Datenbereich enthalten die neuen Indexwerte, die diesem Dienst zugeordnet sind. Informationen 26.06.2007 21:05:07 Microsoft-Windows-LoadPerf 1001 Keine "Die Leistungsindikatoren für den Dienst WmiApRpl (WmiApRpl) wurden entfernt. Die Daten enthalten die neuen Werte der Registrierungseinträge ""Last Counter"" und ""Last Help""." Informationen 26.06.2007 21:01:35 Microsoft-Windows-Security-Licensing-SLC 1025 Keine Der Aktivierungzeitraum hat begonnen. Tage zur Aktivierung=3 Aktivierungstyp=4. Informationen 26.06.2007 21:01:34 Microsoft-Windows-Security-Licensing-SLC 1024 Keine Die Hardware hat sich geändert. "Mac" wrote: [Quoted Text] > Yeah that sucks, there must be a solution to that! Will cross post it to > general community newsgroup where more folks are active and maybe someone > will find you an answer... I can imagine quite a few will relish discussing > this... > > "Guido" <Guido[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:A0F31B39-C707-4F30-8734-CD0471C4201E[ at ]microsoft.com... > > Hello, > > > > I installed yesterday Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit and activated it right > > after. > > Everything looked good. > > > > Today I saw that the system thinks I have to Activate in 2 Days!! > > > > I tried over the Internet but Vista said, my key where allready > > registered. > > So I called Microsoft and aktivated again. > > > > Curious i began to explore the System Logs and i found in the Information > > logs all 5 Minutes > > > > Source Security-Licensing-SLC 1025 and 1024 > > > > Message: Hardware Changed and Activation Greed Time. > > > > After searching and trying I found out that this message disapears when i > > turn on my external USB-Disk!!!!!! > > > > But as soon i Turn of the external USB-Disk i get again this messages and > > i'm pretty sure i need soon to call Microsoft again for re-activation!! > > > > Please Fix that bug! > > > >

Re: Activation Hell "James Matthews" <jamesmatt18[ at ]gmail.com> 6/27/2007 4:25:14 PM Yes there are some bugs with WGA but they cannot be all sorted out with all the hardware is it possible that your usb hardware is a main part of the computer. -- http://www.goldwatches.com/watches.asp?Brand=39 "Guido" <Guido[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:A0F31B39-C707-4F30-8734-CD0471C4201E[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Hello, > > I installed yesterday Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit and activated it right > after. > Everything looked good. > > Today I saw that the system thinks I have to Activate in 2 Days!! > > I tried over the Internet but Vista said, my key where allready > registered. > So I called Microsoft and aktivated again. > > Curious i began to explore the System Logs and i found in the Information > logs all 5 Minutes > > Source Security-Licensing-SLC 1025 and 1024 > > Message: Hardware Changed and Activation Greed Time. > > After searching and trying I found out that this message disapears when i > turn on my external USB-Disk!!!!!! > > But as soon i Turn of the external USB-Disk i get again this messages and > i'm pretty sure i need soon to call Microsoft again for re-activation!! > > Please Fix that bug! > >

Re: Activation Hell "Ronnie Vernon MVP" <rv[ at ]invalid.org> 6/30/2007 11:52:29 PM Guido This behavior has been seen before and we are trying to collect information on the cause. One question, did you have the external USB hard drive plugged in when you installed Vista? Let me know, please. -- Ronnie Vernon Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User "Guido" <Guido[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:A0F31B39-C707-4F30-8734-CD0471C4201E[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Hello, > > I installed yesterday Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit and activated it right > after. > Everything looked good. > > Today I saw that the system thinks I have to Activate in 2 Days!! > > I tried over the Internet but Vista said, my key where allready > registered. > So I called Microsoft and aktivated again. > > Curious i began to explore the System Logs and i found in the Information > logs all 5 Minutes > > Source Security-Licensing-SLC 1025 and 1024 > > Message: Hardware Changed and Activation Greed Time. > > After searching and trying I found out that this message disapears when i > turn on my external USB-Disk!!!!!! > > But as soon i Turn of the external USB-Disk i get again this messages and > i'm pretty sure i need soon to call Microsoft again for re-activation!! > > Please Fix that bug! > >