Unable in Install Windows Vista Ultimate Will14 6/12/2007 7:41:05 PM I was/am unable to install Windows Vista Ultimate. I have a Core 2 Duo 6400, 2-4 gb of Geil ddr2 800 ram.(have tried with 1 2 and 4 in, all 1 GB sticks). I tried using various HDD's. Hitatchi 250 GB sata2(HITACHI Deskstar T7K500 HDT725025VLA380 (0A33423) 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM). Seagate 320 and 400 GB sata2.(Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM) and Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3400833AS 400GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s My mother board is the https://winqual.microsoft.com/HCL/ProductDetails.aspx?m=v&g=s&cid=105&sv=&f=&pn=GA-965P-DS3&oid=680 should be compatible. I checked the motherboard site for a "separate driver for sata" http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/Driver_Model.aspx?ClassValue=Motherboard&ProductID=2424&ProductName=GA-965P-DS3 didn't see one as I know that's the normal "fix" that is suggested. I got the error of cannot find disk drive from within the windows ultimate I tried using both the ICH8 and Jmicron sata connection on the motherboard and used every single different option in the bios regarding sata emulation/setup type to no avail. I suppose your going to tell me to try to load additional drivers for sata, would these be the raid drivers listed on the site I used previously. I decided screw it, I'll just install it from within windows xp. So I had a blank HDD pre-formatted(tried both quick and full NTFS formats just in case, as well as having raw unformatted partition/no partition). I could go through the install it would come back with "unspecified error installation has to restart" or incredible similar error message. I searched both google and microsoft knowledge bases and did not come up with anything equivalent to either my initial error from the vista cd or the error from within XP. At this point spending all weekend on my computer trying to install vista I used seagate diskwizard, mirrored my XP partition to another drive, reformatted my old hard drive and RMA'd my previous HDD(HDD was/ fine but the hitatchi clicked a little and I prefer my pc completely silent). I suppose I could buy another HDD and test this again if you have any ideas. I could perhaps try a jmicron driver from asus site? http://www.alphadownloads.com/drivers/other-device-drivers/asus-jmicron-jmbx-raid-controller-driver-a-863.html Or the drivers from the gigabyte site under raid drivers for my board although I don't remember seeing the add additional drivers option. I think I had tried this and it still didn't work but it was about a month ago and don't remember anymore. Will future versions of Vista install DVD's address these issues? Or does MS take the view that it is the responsibility of software and hardware vendors to make their respective product work with Vista and not vice versa. I often notice there is a strong MS stance of it being the software vendors fault for not releasing a new free updated versions of their software for Vista/any new OS and not MS's fault for being incompatible which is reasonable to an extent but obnoxious from a user who might've bought a new pc pre-loaded with Vista as most HP/Dell's are these days then are unable to use most their software, without spending a few hundred more dollars on new software. I was however able to run without exception every single piece of software I had on my AMD 3800+ HP laptop using RC1/2. This includes maybe games I was unable to run in XP with various compatibility modes and using old Dll files. I did however notice a significant performance decrease using vista versus XP, some of which was cleared up while using a 1-2 GB SD card and ready boost which increased various benchmarks approximately 10% over Vista w/o a SD card via readyboost(1gb system ram via 2x512mb). Thanks in advance. ~Will ***Updates*** Before I posted looked up more. Similar issue as this guy http://forumz.tomshardware.com/software/Vista-recognize-HDD-ftopict235847.html Similar to this issue http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=350433 Except I don't think I had 3 bad HDD's. Seems more people have gotten the problem now. *update* Here is my exact error messages http://forumz.tomshardware.com/software/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=235704&highlight=vista+will14

Re: Unable in Install Windows Vista Ultimate "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM[ at ]hotmail.com> 6/13/2007 12:54:21 AM "Will14" <Will14[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:6410BFFC-7935-4D2D-A554-4A67AF0CDFBF[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] >I was/am unable to install Windows Vista Ultimate. > > My mother board is the > https://winqual.microsoft.com/HCL/ProductDetails.aspx?m=v&g=s&cid=105&sv=&f=&pn=GA-965P-DS3&oid=680 > should be compatible. I checked the motherboard site for a "separate > driver > for sata" > http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/Driver_Model.aspx?ClassValue=Motherboard&ProductID=2424&ProductName=GA-965P-DS3 > didn't see one as I know that's the normal "fix" that is suggested. > > I got the error of cannot find disk drive from within the windows ultimate The error is Vista doesn't have built in support for your hard disk controller. You will need to find the correct driver. Maybe if enough people have this issue it will be included in the SP1 release due out 4Q of this year or 1Q of next.

Re: Unable in Install Windows Vista Ultimate Don <don195702[ at ]hotmail.com> 6/13/2007 1:18:45 AM Seth wrote: [Quoted Text] > ...the SP1 release due out 4Q of this year or 1Q of next. You woke me up with that one. Is that an announcement from MS -- or wishful thinking? (Noting that it's often hard to tell the difference ;-)

Re: Unable in Install Windows Vista Ultimate "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM[ at ]hotmail.com> 6/13/2007 2:18:35 AM "Don" <don195702[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message news:uCr8OjVrHHA.5028[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > Seth wrote: >> ...the SP1 release due out 4Q of this year or 1Q of next. > > You woke me up with that one. Is that an announcement from > MS -- or wishful thinking? (Noting that it's often hard to > tell the difference ;-) Announced. All my bookmarks for it however require a login. Google shows it being reported by many reputable news agencies. Sadly that is the best proof I can provide as most of my information is under NDA. But basically Microsoft is moving to a 12month SP cycle rather than the usual 18months (at least for SP1 releases) as it has become fairly industry standard to not deploy a new OS till SP1. Bump up the timetable for SP1, quicken the pace of adoption.

Re: Unable in Install Windows Vista Ultimate Will14 6/13/2007 4:09:00 AM So am I correct in my thinking that I have a $300 frisbee until a year from now... in which case I would still need to acquire a new cd? Will it be compatible with the new P35 motherboards or is my best bet downgrading to some old crap. I suppose due to compatibility issues in vista no one is really moving to DX10 anyway so I don't have to worry. Oh so if I find the correct driver, I guess I'll look next HDD I buy, then try a few more drivers, ty. "Seth" wrote: [Quoted Text] > "Don" <don195702[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:uCr8OjVrHHA.5028[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > Seth wrote: > >> ...the SP1 release due out 4Q of this year or 1Q of next. > > > > You woke me up with that one. Is that an announcement from > > MS -- or wishful thinking? (Noting that it's often hard to > > tell the difference ;-) > > Announced. All my bookmarks for it however require a login. Google shows > it being reported by many reputable news agencies. Sadly that is the best > proof I can provide as most of my information is under NDA. > > But basically Microsoft is moving to a 12month SP cycle rather than the > usual 18months (at least for SP1 releases) as it has become fairly industry > standard to not deploy a new OS till SP1. Bump up the timetable for SP1, > quicken the pace of adoption. > >

Re: Unable in Install Windows Vista Ultimate jerryw4386 6/13/2007 4:41:02 PM "Will14" wrote: [Quoted Text] > So am I correct in my thinking that I have a $300 frisbee until a year from > now... in which case I would still need to acquire a new cd? Will it be > compatible with the new P35 motherboards or is my best bet downgrading to > some old crap. I suppose due to compatibility issues in vista no one is > really moving to DX10 anyway so I don't have to worry. Oh so if I find the > correct driver, I guess I'll look next HDD I buy, then try a few more > drivers, ty. > > "Seth" wrote: > > > "Don" <don195702[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:uCr8OjVrHHA.5028[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > > Seth wrote: > > >> ...the SP1 release due out 4Q of this year or 1Q of next. > > > > > > You woke me up with that one. Is that an announcement from > > > MS -- or wishful thinking? (Noting that it's often hard to > > > tell the difference ;-) > > > > Announced. All my bookmarks for it however require a login. Google shows > > it being reported by many reputable news agencies. Sadly that is the best > > proof I can provide as most of my information is under NDA. > > > > But basically Microsoft is moving to a 12month SP cycle rather than the > > usual 18months (at least for SP1 releases) as it has become fairly industry > > standard to not deploy a new OS till SP1. Bump up the timetable for SP1, > > quicken the pace of adoption. > > > > Hi Will14 You are doing something wrong on that board it will work with Vista32\64 bit I have one that is just 4 days old and have both Vista 32\64 bit Ultimate on it. do your home work on it , live and learn. See Yea

RE: Unable in Install Windows Vista Ultimate Randy 6/15/2007 7:04:01 AM hello will14, you want to install vista on sata hard disk, right? here are some useful information for you. http://vistasupport.mvps.org/installing_raid_sata_drivers.htm "Will14" wrote: [Quoted Text] > I was/am unable to install Windows Vista Ultimate. > > I have a Core 2 Duo 6400, > 2-4 gb of Geil ddr2 800 ram.(have tried with 1 2 and 4 in, all 1 GB sticks). > > I tried using various HDD's. Hitatchi 250 GB sata2(HITACHI Deskstar T7K500 > HDT725025VLA380 (0A33423) 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM). > Seagate 320 and 400 GB sata2.(Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS > (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - > OEM) and Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3400833AS 400GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA > 3.0Gb/s > > My mother board is the > https://winqual.microsoft.com/HCL/ProductDetails.aspx?m=v&g=s&cid=105&sv=&f=&pn=GA-965P-DS3&oid=680 > should be compatible. I checked the motherboard site for a "separate driver > for sata" > http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/Driver_Model.aspx?ClassValue=Motherboard&ProductID=2424&ProductName=GA-965P-DS3 > didn't see one as I know that's the normal "fix" that is suggested. > > I got the error of cannot find disk drive from within the windows ultimate > > I tried using both the ICH8 and Jmicron sata connection on the motherboard > and used every single different option in the bios regarding sata > emulation/setup type to no avail. I suppose your going to tell me to try to > load additional drivers for sata, would these be the raid drivers listed on > the site I used previously. > > I decided screw it, I'll just install it from within windows xp. So I had a > blank HDD pre-formatted(tried both quick and full NTFS formats just in case, > as well as having raw unformatted partition/no partition). I could go > through the install it would come back with "unspecified error installation > has to restart" or incredible similar error message. I searched both google > and microsoft knowledge bases and did not come up with anything equivalent to > either my initial error from the vista cd or the error from within XP. At > this point spending all weekend on my computer trying to install vista I used > seagate diskwizard, mirrored my XP partition to another drive, reformatted my > old hard drive and RMA'd my previous HDD(HDD was/ fine but the hitatchi > clicked a little and I prefer my pc completely silent). > > I suppose I could buy another HDD and test this again if you have any ideas. > > I could perhaps try a jmicron driver from asus site? > http://www.alphadownloads.com/drivers/other-device-drivers/asus-jmicron-jmbx-raid-controller-driver-a-863.html > Or the drivers from the gigabyte site under raid drivers for my board > although I don't remember seeing the add additional drivers option. > I think I had tried this and it still didn't work but it was about a month > ago and don't remember anymore. > > Will future versions of Vista install DVD's address these issues? Or does > MS take the view that it is the responsibility of software and hardware > vendors to make their respective product work with Vista and not vice versa. > I often notice there is a strong MS stance of it being the software vendors > fault for not releasing a new free updated versions of their software for > Vista/any new OS and not MS's fault for being incompatible which is > reasonable to an extent but obnoxious from a user who might've bought a new > pc pre-loaded with Vista as most HP/Dell's are these days then are unable to > use most their software, without spending a few hundred more dollars on new > software. I was however able to run without exception every single piece of > software I had on my AMD 3800+ HP laptop using RC1/2. This includes maybe > games I was unable to run in XP with various compatibility modes and using > old Dll files. I did however notice a significant performance decrease using > vista versus XP, some of which was cleared up while using a 1-2 GB SD card > and ready boost which increased various benchmarks approximately 10% over > Vista w/o a SD card via readyboost(1gb system ram via 2x512mb). > > Thanks in advance. > > ~Will > > ***Updates*** > Before I posted looked up more. > Similar issue as this guy > http://forumz.tomshardware.com/software/Vista-recognize-HDD-ftopict235847.html > Similar to this issue > http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=350433 > Except I don't think I had 3 bad HDD's. > Seems more people have gotten the problem now. > *update* > Here is my exact error messages > http://forumz.tomshardware.com/software/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=235704&highlight=vista+will14