Failed to update the registry at first launch of programme Paul (Bornival) 6/20/2007 5:48:00 PM I have a series of important programs made for Win 9x and WinXP which require an update of the registry at first lauch. One technique to make these programs to work for user with limited acount with WinXP is to give the administration rights to that user at first launch of the program. The registry can then be updated and the user account can be returned to a limited level. I cannot do this with Vista, as even a user with administrative rights cannot update the registry. How can I give to a user with administrative rights the possibility to modify the registry ?

Re: Failed to update the registry at first launch of programme "Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> 6/20/2007 11:55:08 PM Hi Paul-- Can you explain with an example of an important program and how in the world they require "an update of the registry at first launch." The "udpate [ing of] the registry for the program as far as that particular programs entry is done on installation. With many installations including several MSFT software programs, on the installation gui box, you can see the words "updating the registry." If Vista supports the program, all you should have to do is run the install, and the MSI is going to take care of any updating of the registry required. Program by program, you have to go to the company who makes the program or their website, and see if it is Vista compatible. If it is, running the install should do it. CH "Paul (Bornival)" <PaulBornival[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:4E3039D3-195A-4542-AEB7-6227066B2592[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] >I have a series of important programs made for Win 9x and WinXP which >require > an update of the registry at first lauch. One technique to make these > programs to work for user with limited acount with WinXP is to give the > administration rights to that user at first launch of the program. The > registry can then be updated and the user account can be returned to a > limited level. I cannot do this with Vista, as even a user with > administrative rights cannot update the registry. How can I give to a > user > with administrative rights the possibility to modify the registry ?

RE: Failed to update the registry at first launch of programme IscaComps 6/21/2007 10:41:01 PM Hi Paul I had this issue with a few older programs running on Vista, this may or may not work for you: I went to the program icon on start menu, right click, properties, compatability mode and set it to Win XP SP2, run with administrator rights and applied to all users for that/those programs. most programs run fine now. Scott "Paul (Bornival)" wrote: [Quoted Text] > I have a series of important programs made for Win 9x and WinXP which require > an update of the registry at first lauch. One technique to make these > programs to work for user with limited acount with WinXP is to give the > administration rights to that user at first launch of the program. The > registry can then be updated and the user account can be returned to a > limited level. I cannot do this with Vista, as even a user with > administrative rights cannot update the registry. How can I give to a user > with administrative rights the possibility to modify the registry ?

RE: Failed to update the registry at first launch of programme Paul (Bornival) 6/23/2007 8:46:00 PM Dear Scott, Thank you for your reply. It helped me a lot and solved several of my problems in configuring most of the "old" programs I needed to install on my new Vista machine (see my answer to Chad Harris). I still have a few problems, however, the main one being the follwing: How can I create an lmhost file in the c:\windows\system32\drivres\etc folder (the lmhost should contains the netbios names of the computers I connect to through "Map network drive" (so that I can map drives on machines that are not in my local network by filling up lines as follows: www.yyy.zzz.aaa name #PRE, where www.yyy.zzz.aaa is the IP adress and name the netbios name)). The problem is that I cannot write to the c:\windows\system32\drivres\etc folder folder, even though I am logged as user with administrator rights (I'am denying acess when trying to save my file). If I make a right click on the folder, and go to the "Security" tab, I cannot set permissions for me ... (all boxes are greyed). This is probably a general change in Vista vs. Win XP, but I do not know ho to have acces to those files... Kind regards Paul. "IscaComps" wrote: [Quoted Text] > Hi Paul > > I had this issue with a few older programs running on Vista, this may or may > not work for you: > > I went to the program icon on start menu, right click, properties, > compatability mode and set it to Win XP SP2, run with administrator rights > and applied to all users for that/those programs. > > most programs run fine now. > > Scott > > "Paul (Bornival)" wrote: > > > I have a series of important programs made for Win 9x and WinXP which require > > an update of the registry at first lauch. One technique to make these > > programs to work for user with limited acount with WinXP is to give the > > administration rights to that user at first launch of the program. The > > registry can then be updated and the user account can be returned to a > > limited level. I cannot do this with Vista, as even a user with > > administrative rights cannot update the registry. How can I give to a user > > with administrative rights the possibility to modify the registry ?

Re: Failed to update the registry at first launch of programme Paul (Bornival) 6/23/2007 8:58:01 PM Dear Chafd, Thank you for you reply. Here are a few programs that cause this problem: - Eudora (the well know mailer), which needs to modify the registry to set it)self as the default mailer) - PaintShop Pro version 6 (a drawing program very useful for what I do), which needs to set up the file associations when being launched) - VeuwerLite (a molecular modelling program), which needs to write to various places in the registry to work in tandem with a database ... I eventually got an hint from IscaComps to run these programs as an administrator and it solved the problems. Yet, I'am still struggling with the Vista permission (for instance, how to create an lmhost file ...). Is there a useful website with a description of these permissions and how to give rights to a specific user to files and folders to which he does not have rights (these permissions and the way to modify them seems much more complex than in WinXP...). Regards, Paul. "Chad Harris" wrote: [Quoted Text] > Hi Paul-- > > Can you explain with an example of an important program and how in the world > they require "an update of the registry at first launch." The "udpate [ing > of] the registry for the program as far as that particular programs entry is > done on installation. With many installations including several MSFT > software programs, on the installation gui box, you can see the words > "updating the registry." > > If Vista supports the program, all you should have to do is run the install, > and the MSI is going to take care of any updating of the registry required. > > Program by program, you have to go to the company who makes the program or > their website, and see if it is Vista compatible. If it is, running the > install should do it. > > CH > > > "Paul (Bornival)" <PaulBornival[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:4E3039D3-195A-4542-AEB7-6227066B2592[ at ]microsoft.com... > >I have a series of important programs made for Win 9x and WinXP which > >require > > an update of the registry at first lauch. One technique to make these > > programs to work for user with limited acount with WinXP is to give the > > administration rights to that user at first launch of the program. The > > registry can then be updated and the user account can be returned to a > > limited level. I cannot do this with Vista, as even a user with > > administrative rights cannot update the registry. How can I give to a > > user > > with administrative rights the possibility to modify the registry ? > >

RE: Failed to update the registry at first launch of programme IscaComps 6/23/2007 9:13:00 PM Hi Paul Glad to see that tip worked, as for lmhosts, haven't used these for a very long time, so the best i can find is this: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923947 Basically run notepad as administrator and then open the hosts file. Thanks Scott "Paul (Bornival)" wrote: [Quoted Text] > Dear Scott, > > Thank you for your reply. It helped me a lot and solved several of my > problems in configuring most of the "old" programs I needed to install on my > new Vista machine (see my answer to Chad Harris). > > I still have a few problems, however, the main one being the follwing: > > How can I create an lmhost file in the c:\windows\system32\drivres\etc > folder (the lmhost should contains the netbios names of the computers I > connect to through "Map network drive" (so that I can map drives on machines > that are not in my local network by filling up lines as follows: > www.yyy.zzz.aaa name #PRE, where www.yyy.zzz.aaa is the IP adress and name > the netbios name)). > > The problem is that I cannot write to the c:\windows\system32\drivres\etc > folder folder, even though I am logged as user with administrator rights > (I'am denying acess when trying to save my file). If I make a right click on > the folder, and go to the "Security" tab, I cannot set permissions for me ... > (all boxes are greyed). > > This is probably a general change in Vista vs. Win XP, but I do not know ho > to have acces to those files... > > Kind regards > > Paul. > > "IscaComps" wrote: > > > Hi Paul > > > > I had this issue with a few older programs running on Vista, this may or may > > not work for you: > > > > I went to the program icon on start menu, right click, properties, > > compatability mode and set it to Win XP SP2, run with administrator rights > > and applied to all users for that/those programs. > > > > most programs run fine now. > > > > Scott > > > > "Paul (Bornival)" wrote: > > > > > I have a series of important programs made for Win 9x and WinXP which require > > > an update of the registry at first lauch. One technique to make these > > > programs to work for user with limited acount with WinXP is to give the > > > administration rights to that user at first launch of the program. The > > > registry can then be updated and the user account can be returned to a > > > limited level. I cannot do this with Vista, as even a user with > > > administrative rights cannot update the registry. How can I give to a user > > > with administrative rights the possibility to modify the registry ?

RE: Failed to update the registry at first launch of programme Paul (Bornival) 6/24/2007 9:22:00 AM Dear Scott, This WAS indeed the solution. Thank you. I only start discovering VISTA ... Regards, Paul "IscaComps" wrote: [Quoted Text] > Hi Paul > > Glad to see that tip worked, as for lmhosts, haven't used these for a very > long time, so the best i can find is this: > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923947 > > Basically run notepad as administrator and then open the hosts file. > > Thanks > Scott > > "Paul (Bornival)" wrote: > > > Dear Scott, > > > > Thank you for your reply. It helped me a lot and solved several of my > > problems in configuring most of the "old" programs I needed to install on my > > new Vista machine (see my answer to Chad Harris). > > > > I still have a few problems, however, the main one being the follwing: > > > > How can I create an lmhost file in the c:\windows\system32\drivres\etc > > folder (the lmhost should contains the netbios names of the computers I > > connect to through "Map network drive" (so that I can map drives on machines > > that are not in my local network by filling up lines as follows: > > www.yyy.zzz.aaa name #PRE, where www.yyy.zzz.aaa is the IP adress and name > > the netbios name)). > > > > The problem is that I cannot write to the c:\windows\system32\drivres\etc > > folder folder, even though I am logged as user with administrator rights > > (I'am denying acess when trying to save my file). If I make a right click on > > the folder, and go to the "Security" tab, I cannot set permissions for me ... > > (all boxes are greyed). > > > > This is probably a general change in Vista vs. Win XP, but I do not know ho > > to have acces to those files... > > > > Kind regards > > > > Paul. > > > > "IscaComps" wrote: > > > > > Hi Paul > > > > > > I had this issue with a few older programs running on Vista, this may or may > > > not work for you: > > > > > > I went to the program icon on start menu, right click, properties, > > > compatability mode and set it to Win XP SP2, run with administrator rights > > > and applied to all users for that/those programs. > > > > > > most programs run fine now. > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > "Paul (Bornival)" wrote: > > > > > > > I have a series of important programs made for Win 9x and WinXP which require > > > > an update of the registry at first lauch. One technique to make these > > > > programs to work for user with limited acount with WinXP is to give the > > > > administration rights to that user at first launch of the program. The > > > > registry can then be updated and the user account can be returned to a > > > > limited level. I cannot do this with Vista, as even a user with > > > > administrative rights cannot update the registry. How can I give to a user > > > > with administrative rights the possibility to modify the registry ?