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hey peeps..
Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If
your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything.
Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig ram,
came from the shop with vista enabled etc.
So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading, why
would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along with my
buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... AND
BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*.
Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed or
uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not
interested. I want an answer.
There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about
vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war- AND
-listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista.
And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or uninstalled
or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not interested.
I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for
software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job buying
this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a
MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation.
--
www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
We make quality tunes
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AnaLoGMunKy <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs
> installed or uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt
> had any probs cos Im not interested. I want an answer.
No, you obviously do not want an answer, the above proves it.
You just want to whine and now you have, feel better?
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XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
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"XS11E" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > AnaLoGMunKy <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs > > installed or uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt > > had any probs cos Im not interested. I want an answer. > > No, you obviously do not want an answer, the above proves it. > > You just want to whine and now you have, feel better? > > > > -- > XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups > The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html> |
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Hey Ana--
Make sure you do what it takes to make it as fast as possible. It would be
faster if you upgraded your hardware, but you can still make it run very
decently with what you have.
Speed PC and Control CPU Tips/Steps
SPEED AND CPU:
_______________
1) Trim processes you don't need in TM. Google them or "search engine of
your choice them" if you have to.
2) Go to
services.msc in run box and turn off services not needed and there are some.
SERVICE CONFIGURATION REFERENCES*
*Vista Services*
Part One
http://www.tweakvista.com/article38662.aspx
Part Two
http://www.tweakvista.com/article38664.aspx
Windows Vista Services Tweak Guide v1.0
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=87443
3) Run System File Checker.
SFC: http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html
In Vista run it from an elevated command prompt. Right click command on
start and run as administrator.
4) Run 3 or so spyware scans Windows Defender, , Adaware, and Spybot
5) Probably the most important for speed consistently and efficient resource
use DEFRAG with www.raxco.com or www.diskeeeper.com with 15% free space on
drive if DK and or >5% if Raxco's Perfect Disk.
http://groups.msn.com/windowsxpcentral/spyware.msnw
Download Adaware and
Spybot from here.
GOOD Overall Review for Defending Your PC:
http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
MSFT Defense Site MSFT Security:
http://www.microsoft.com/security/default.mspx
Protect Your PC from MSFT Security:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.mspx
MSFT Windows Defender
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx
MSFT MSRT: (Malicious Software Removal Tool)
http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx
MSFT "Windows One Care" in Wings (AV and Spyware Scans)
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/may05/05-13WindowsOneCarePR.mspx
6) Unck items from msconfig start tab you don't need starting and some
won't start--peoiple who think just uncking for many are naive because there
are 12 places things can be started including several reg keys like Run Once
keys and there are serveral.
7) Turn off Messaging service--it's a security vulnerability and it slows
you
8) Defrag very often every other day actually.
9) Turn off indexing.
10) Clear TIF and %temp% files (delete) and go to safe mode to get as many
as u can.
10) Do troubleshooting with msconfig.
11) Do Clean boot with msconfig utility and search for the directions here:
Vista RTM Tweak Guide (Tweaks to Improve Performances)
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-47,GGLJ:en&q=vista+rtm+tweak+guide
1) Task Manager lists the services on the services tab in Vista.
2) Type services.msc in run box and using the list of services, click the
service and you'll get a description of services.
3) There is a list here of the default services and a description>>click
"default settings for services" in the left pane.
http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/library/3c5945ee-afb8-43ce-b39d-50e6d5b89bf81033.mspx?mfr=true
4) To view service dependencies
1.
Open Services.
2.
In the details pane, right-click the service that you want to view
dependencies for, and then click Properties.
3.
Click the Dependencies tab.
4.
To view services that are associated dependencies of the selected service,
in the list on the Dependencies tab, click the plus sign next to the
service.
Many of the services but not all in Vista are the same as in XP, so in that
context:
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/services.htm
Also see the extremely helpful site:
Black Viper's Service List
http://www.dead-eye.net/WinXP%20Services.htm
Black Viper's Site (Many of the same services in Vista)
http://www.dead-eye.net/WinXP%20Services.htm
http://www.z123.org/techsupport/xpservices.htm
http://www.geocities.com/ziyadhosein/xpserv1.htm
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
This will be helpful
http://web.archive.org/web/20041128084144/www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm
______________________________________________________________________________________________
How to troubleshoot by using the System Configuration utility in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310560/
Resources for troubleshooting startup problems in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308041/
How to perform advanced clean-boot troubleshooting in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;316434
How to perform a clean boot in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353/
How to Disable a Service or Device that Prevents Windows from Starting
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310602/
Also ck out these references:
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,5155,00.asp
http://www.speedupyourcomputer.windowsreinstall.com/index.htm
and
http://www.extremetech.com/search_results/0%2C2426%2C%2C00.asp?qry=how+to+speed+windows+xp&filterapp=&site=4P.S.
Defragging with a decent defrag every day will make a huge dent inefficient
resource/CPU use.
Perfect Disk has a 5 month full functionality trial on now for Windows
Vista.
Good luck,
CH
"AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8056A878-B39B-495B-BB35-A9FB41BF0491[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > hey peeps..
>
> Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If
> your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything.
>
> Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig ram,
> came from the shop with vista enabled etc.
>
> So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading, why
> would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along with
> my
> buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... AND
> BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*.
>
> Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed or
> uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im
> not
> interested. I want an answer.
>
> There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about
> vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war- AND
> -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista.
>
> And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or uninstalled
> or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not
> interested.
>
> I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for
> software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job buying
> this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a
> MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation.
> --
> www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
>
> We make quality tunes
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"AnaLoGMunKy" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about
> vista so Its not just me.
Because people like me who have taken advantage of the WEI and now my Vista
runs like lightning and of course I am not going to waste my time going
around posting how great it is and most people who are happy with Vista knew
what to do and now that is up to you. YOUR CALL!!!
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No one seems to get this....so think hard:
Companies like Dell and HP are selling underpowered crap with only Vista as
an option. The reputation of the OS is sinking on this simple fact.
"Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote in message
news:%23ZhA8YvsHHA.4916[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Hey Ana-- > > Make sure you do what it takes to make it as fast as possible. It would > be faster if you upgraded your hardware, but you can still make it run > very decently with what you have. > > Speed PC and Control CPU Tips/Steps > > SPEED AND CPU: > > _______________ > > 1) Trim processes you don't need in TM. Google them or "search engine of > > your choice them" if you have to. > > 2) Go to > > services.msc in run box and turn off services not needed and there are > some. > > SERVICE CONFIGURATION REFERENCES* > > *Vista Services* > > Part One > > http://www.tweakvista.com/article38662.aspx> > Part Two > > http://www.tweakvista.com/article38664.aspx> > Windows Vista Services Tweak Guide v1.0 > > http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=87443> > > 3) Run System File Checker. > > SFC: http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html> > In Vista run it from an elevated command prompt. Right click command on > > start and run as administrator. > > 4) Run 3 or so spyware scans Windows Defender, , Adaware, and Spybot > > 5) Probably the most important for speed consistently and efficient > resource > > use DEFRAG with www.raxco.com or www.diskeeeper.com with 15% free space on > > drive if DK and or >5% if Raxco's Perfect Disk. > > http://groups.msn.com/windowsxpcentral/spyware.msnw> > Download Adaware and > > Spybot from here. > > GOOD Overall Review for Defending Your PC: > > http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/> > MSFT Defense Site MSFT Security: > > http://www.microsoft.com/security/default.mspx> > Protect Your PC from MSFT Security: > > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.mspx> > MSFT Windows Defender > > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx> > MSFT MSRT: (Malicious Software Removal Tool) > > http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx> > > > MSFT "Windows One Care" in Wings (AV and Spyware Scans) > > http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/may05/05-13WindowsOneCarePR.mspx> > 6) Unck items from msconfig start tab you don't need starting and some > > won't start--peoiple who think just uncking for many are naive because > there > > are 12 places things can be started including several reg keys like Run > Once > > keys and there are serveral. > > 7) Turn off Messaging service--it's a security vulnerability and it slows > > you > > 8) Defrag very often every other day actually. > > 9) Turn off indexing. > > 10) Clear TIF and %temp% files (delete) and go to safe mode to get as many > > as u can. > > 10) Do troubleshooting with msconfig. > > 11) Do Clean boot with msconfig utility and search for the directions > here: > > > > > > Vista RTM Tweak Guide (Tweaks to Improve Performances) > > http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-47,GGLJ:en&q=vista+rtm+tweak+guide> > > > 1) Task Manager lists the services on the services tab in Vista. > > 2) Type services.msc in run box and using the list of services, click the > > service and you'll get a description of services. > > 3) There is a list here of the default services and a description>>click > > "default settings for services" in the left pane. > > http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/library/3c5945ee-afb8-43ce-b39d-50e6d5b89bf81033.mspx?mfr=true> > > > 4) To view service dependencies > > 1. > > Open Services. > > 2. > > In the details pane, right-click the service that you want to view > > dependencies for, and then click Properties. > > 3. > > Click the Dependencies tab. > > 4. > > To view services that are associated dependencies of the selected service, > > in the list on the Dependencies tab, click the plus sign next to the > > service. > > Many of the services but not all in Vista are the same as in XP, so in > that > > context: > > http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/services.htm> > > Also see the extremely helpful site: > > Black Viper's Service List > > http://www.dead-eye.net/WinXP%20Services.htm> > > Black Viper's Site (Many of the same services in Vista) > > http://www.dead-eye.net/WinXP%20Services.htm> > > http://www.z123.org/techsupport/xpservices.htm> > > http://www.geocities.com/ziyadhosein/xpserv1.htm> > > http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php> > This will be helpful > > http://web.archive.org/web/20041128084144/www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm> > ______________________________________________________________________________________________ > > How to troubleshoot by using the System Configuration utility in Windows > XP > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310560/> > Resources for troubleshooting startup problems in Windows XP > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308041/> > How to perform advanced clean-boot troubleshooting in Windows XP > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;316434> > How to perform a clean boot in Windows XP > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353/> > How to Disable a Service or Device that Prevents Windows from Starting > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310602/> > > > Also ck out these references: > > http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,5155,00.asp> > > > http://www.speedupyourcomputer.windowsreinstall.com/index.htm> > and > > http://www.extremetech.com/search_results/0%2C2426%2C%2C00.asp?qry=how+to+speed+windows+xp&filterapp=&site=4P.S.> > > > Defragging with a decent defrag every day will make a huge dent > inefficient > > resource/CPU use. > > Perfect Disk has a 5 month full functionality trial on now for Windows > > Vista. > > Good luck, > > CH > > > "AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:8056A878-B39B-495B-BB35-A9FB41BF0491[ at ]microsoft.com... >> hey peeps.. >> >> Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If >> your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything. >> >> Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig ram, >> came from the shop with vista enabled etc. >> >> So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading, >> why >> would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along with >> my >> buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... AND >> BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*. >> >> Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed or >> uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im >> not >> interested. I want an answer. >> >> There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about >> vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war- AND >> -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista. >> >> And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or uninstalled >> or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not >> interested. >> >> I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for >> software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job buying >> this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a >> MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation. >> -- >> www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz >> >> We make quality tunes >
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Check in your power plan that the CPU isn't being unnecessarily throtled
down.
Control Panel/ Power Options/ Change Plan Settings/Change Advanced power
Settings/Processor Power Management
On my Compaq, the default was processor Maximum state at 50%, on battery or
PLUGGED IN! Thanks, HP/Compaq, for picking a dumb setting.
Val
"AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8056A878-B39B-495B-BB35-A9FB41BF0491[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > hey peeps..
>
> Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If
> your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything.
>
> Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig ram,
> came from the shop with vista enabled etc.
>
> So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading, why
> would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along with
> my
> buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... AND
> BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*.
>
> Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed or
> uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im
> not
> interested. I want an answer.
>
> There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about
> vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war- AND
> -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista.
>
> And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or uninstalled
> or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not
> interested.
>
> I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for
> software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job buying
> this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a
> MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation.
> --
> www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
>
> We make quality tunes
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Also turn Aero OFF if it is on....
"Val" <vmanes[ at ]NOSPAMrap.midco.net> wrote in message
news:euKdnQMiUKmeKOXbnZ2dnUVZ_tWhnZ2d[ at ]midco.net...
[Quoted Text] > Check in your power plan that the CPU isn't being unnecessarily throtled
> down.
>
> Control Panel/ Power Options/ Change Plan Settings/Change Advanced power
> Settings/Processor Power Management
>
> On my Compaq, the default was processor Maximum state at 50%, on battery
> or PLUGGED IN! Thanks, HP/Compaq, for picking a dumb setting.
>
> Val
>
>
> "AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:8056A878-B39B-495B-BB35-A9FB41BF0491[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> hey peeps..
>>
>> Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If
>> your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything.
>>
>> Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig ram,
>> came from the shop with vista enabled etc.
>>
>> So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading,
>> why
>> would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along with
>> my
>> buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... AND
>> BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*.
>>
>> Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed or
>> uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im
>> not
>> interested. I want an answer.
>>
>> There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about
>> vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war- AND
>> -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista.
>>
>> And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or uninstalled
>> or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not
>> interested.
>>
>> I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for
>> software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job buying
>> this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a
>> MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation.
>> --
>> www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
>>
>> We make quality tunes
>
>
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Also Video and other drivers might not be compatible.... so check with
maker.
"Spirit" <unknown[ at ]lost.info> wrote in message
news:Oq$x7ivsHHA.2444[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Also turn Aero OFF if it is on....
>
> "Val" <vmanes[ at ]NOSPAMrap.midco.net> wrote in message
> news:euKdnQMiUKmeKOXbnZ2dnUVZ_tWhnZ2d[ at ]midco.net...
>> Check in your power plan that the CPU isn't being unnecessarily throtled
>> down.
>>
>> Control Panel/ Power Options/ Change Plan Settings/Change Advanced power
>> Settings/Processor Power Management
>>
>> On my Compaq, the default was processor Maximum state at 50%, on battery
>> or PLUGGED IN! Thanks, HP/Compaq, for picking a dumb setting.
>>
>> Val
>>
>>
>> "AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:8056A878-B39B-495B-BB35-A9FB41BF0491[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>> hey peeps..
>>>
>>> Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If
>>> your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything.
>>>
>>> Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig
>>> ram,
>>> came from the shop with vista enabled etc.
>>>
>>> So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading,
>>> why
>>> would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along with
>>> my
>>> buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both....
>>> AND
>>> BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*.
>>>
>>> Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed
>>> or
>>> uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im
>>> not
>>> interested. I want an answer.
>>>
>>> There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about
>>> vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war-
>>> AND
>>> -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista.
>>>
>>> And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or
>>> uninstalled
>>> or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not
>>> interested.
>>>
>>> I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for
>>> software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job
>>> buying
>>> this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a
>>> MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation.
>>> --
>>> www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
>>>
>>> We make quality tunes
>>
>>
>
>
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"Spirit" <unknown[ at ]lost.info> wrote in message
news:Oq$x7ivsHHA.2444[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Also turn Aero OFF if it is on....
Isn't that one of the good things about Vista? If not, why are they pushing
all the hardware?
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Celerons are slow with any operating system. People who have good
performance are NOT using these processors.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
"AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8056A878-B39B-495B-BB35-A9FB41BF0491[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > hey peeps..
>
> Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If
> your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything.
>
> Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig ram,
> came from the shop with vista enabled etc.
>
> So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading, why
> would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along with
> my
> buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... AND
> BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*.
>
> Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed or
> uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im
> not
> interested. I want an answer.
>
> There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about
> vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war- AND
> -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista.
>
> And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or uninstalled
> or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not
> interested.
>
> I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for
> software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job buying
> this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a
> MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation.
> --
> www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
>
> We make quality tunes
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Aero is certainly not good on machines with slow processors, video cards or
memory.
"Telstar" <none[ at ]none> wrote in message
news:eRP720vsHHA.3556[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] >
> "Spirit" <unknown[ at ]lost.info> wrote in message
> news:Oq$x7ivsHHA.2444[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Also turn Aero OFF if it is on....
>
>
> Isn't that one of the good things about Vista? If not, why are they
> pushing all the hardware?
>
>
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"Companies like Dell and HP are selling underpowered..."
Exactly the same thing happened when Windows XP was released.
It seems the new operating system always has a "sinking" reputation
until the next is released.
--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org
"Telstar" <none[ at ]none> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > No one seems to get this....so think hard:
>
> Companies like Dell and HP are selling underpowered crap with only
> Vista as an option. The reputation of the OS is sinking on this
> simple fact.
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No. I bought computers from companies for a laboratory at that time. When
XP came out, only computers *completely* functional and efficient with the
product were sold.
Now we have computers that are being sold that are completely
under-equipped.
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter[ at ]hotnomail.com> wrote in message
news:%23GS5pIwsHHA.840[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > "Companies like Dell and HP are selling underpowered..." > Exactly the same thing happened when Windows XP was released. > It seems the new operating system always has a "sinking" reputation until > the next is released. > > -- > Jupiter Jones [MVP] > http://www3.telus.net/dandemar> http://www.dts-l.org> > > "Telstar" <none[ at ]none> wrote in message > news:%237uSDcvsHHA.508[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> No one seems to get this....so think hard: >> >> Companies like Dell and HP are selling underpowered crap with only Vista >> as an option. The reputation of the OS is sinking on this simple fact. >
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THEN THE COMPUTERS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SOLD!!!!!!!!
"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OZ2LH1vsHHA.400[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Celerons are slow with any operating system. People who have good
> performance are NOT using these processors.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
>
>
> "AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:8056A878-B39B-495B-BB35-A9FB41BF0491[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> hey peeps..
>>
>> Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If
>> your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything.
>>
>> Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig ram,
>> came from the shop with vista enabled etc.
>>
>> So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading,
>> why
>> would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along with
>> my
>> buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... AND
>> BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*.
>>
>> Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed or
>> uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im
>> not
>> interested. I want an answer.
>>
>> There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about
>> vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war- AND
>> -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista.
>>
>> And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or uninstalled
>> or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not
>> interested.
>>
>> I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for
>> software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job buying
>> this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a
>> MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation.
>> --
>> www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
>>
>> We make quality tunes
>
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Do you really think that these buyers are going "oh! I made a mistake with
my hardware)"? NO. They are trashing Microsoft and the OS.
Microsoft shot itself in the foot here...they had control and now have lost
it.
"Telstar" <none[ at ]none> wrote in message
news:eoWv3UwsHHA.4364[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > THEN THE COMPUTERS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SOLD!!!!!!!!
>
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OZ2LH1vsHHA.400[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Celerons are slow with any operating system. People who have good
>> performance are NOT using these processors.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>>
>>
>> "AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:8056A878-B39B-495B-BB35-A9FB41BF0491[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>> hey peeps..
>>>
>>> Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If
>>> your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything.
>>>
>>> Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig
>>> ram,
>>> came from the shop with vista enabled etc.
>>>
>>> So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading,
>>> why
>>> would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along with
>>> my
>>> buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both....
>>> AND
>>> BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*.
>>>
>>> Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed
>>> or
>>> uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im
>>> not
>>> interested. I want an answer.
>>>
>>> There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about
>>> vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war-
>>> AND
>>> -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista.
>>>
>>> And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or
>>> uninstalled
>>> or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not
>>> interested.
>>>
>>> I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for
>>> software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job
>>> buying
>>> this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a
>>> MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation.
>>> --
>>> www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
>>>
>>> We make quality tunes
>>
>
>
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Finally, as a Microsoft user for over twenty years, this really, really does
strike me as a shove it down your throat approach.
"Telstar" <none[ at ]none> wrote in message
news:OaliWXwsHHA.4572[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Do you really think that these buyers are going "oh! I made a mistake
> with my hardware)"? NO. They are trashing Microsoft and the OS.
>
> Microsoft shot itself in the foot here...they had control and now have
> lost it.
>
>
> "Telstar" <none[ at ]none> wrote in message
> news:eoWv3UwsHHA.4364[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> THEN THE COMPUTERS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SOLD!!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OZ2LH1vsHHA.400[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Celerons are slow with any operating system. People who have good
>>> performance are NOT using these processors.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Richard Urban
>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:8056A878-B39B-495B-BB35-A9FB41BF0491[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>>> hey peeps..
>>>>
>>>> Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you
>>>> If
>>>> your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything.
>>>>
>>>> Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig
>>>> ram,
>>>> came from the shop with vista enabled etc.
>>>>
>>>> So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading,
>>>> why
>>>> would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along
>>>> with my
>>>> buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both....
>>>> AND
>>>> BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*.
>>>>
>>>> Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed
>>>> or
>>>> uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos
>>>> Im not
>>>> interested. I want an answer.
>>>>
>>>> There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about
>>>> vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war-
>>>> AND
>>>> -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista.
>>>>
>>>> And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or
>>>> uninstalled
>>>> or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not
>>>> interested.
>>>>
>>>> I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for
>>>> software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job
>>>> buying
>>>> this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a
>>>> MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation.
>>>> --
>>>> www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
>>>>
>>>> We make quality tunes
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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"AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8056A878-B39B-495B-BB35-A9FB41BF0491[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > hey peeps..
>
> Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If
> your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything.
>
> Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig ram,
> came from the shop with vista enabled etc.
1.7 celeron ..... well if you cant see it then thats it
>
> So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading, why
> would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along with
> my
> buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... AND
> BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*.
then keepXP
>
> Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed or
> uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im
> not
> interested. I want an answer.
So you only want an answer if it suits you
>
> There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about
> vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war- AND
> -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista.
You dont see huge amounts of posts in the XP forums about people been happy
with XP but you see heaps of posts about people having problems. That must
mean that XP is a horrible system
>
> And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or uninstalled
> or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not
> interested.
Well why bother posting here
>
> I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for
> software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job buying
> this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a
> MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation.
>
Well you didnt do your homework did you
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My machine is neither underpowered nor slow with Vista.
I just don't like having the accelerator in the trunk and the gearshift in
the wheelwell.
Vista is getting a bad reputation because it was poorley designed, not
because it is sold on underpowered machines.
"Telstar" <none[ at ]none> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > No one seems to get this....so think hard: > > Companies like Dell and HP are selling underpowered crap with only Vista > as an option. The reputation of the OS is sinking on this simple fact. > > "Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote in message > news:%23ZhA8YvsHHA.4916[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Hey Ana-- >> >> Make sure you do what it takes to make it as fast as possible. It would >> be faster if you upgraded your hardware, but you can still make it run >> very decently with what you have. >> >> Speed PC and Control CPU Tips/Steps >> >> SPEED AND CPU: >> >> _______________ >> >> 1) Trim processes you don't need in TM. Google them or "search engine of >> >> your choice them" if you have to. >> >> 2) Go to >> >> services.msc in run box and turn off services not needed and there are >> some. >> >> SERVICE CONFIGURATION REFERENCES* >> >> *Vista Services* >> >> Part One >> >> http://www.tweakvista.com/article38662.aspx>> >> Part Two >> >> http://www.tweakvista.com/article38664.aspx>> >> Windows Vista Services Tweak Guide v1.0 >> >> http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=87443>> >> >> 3) Run System File Checker. >> >> SFC: http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html>> >> In Vista run it from an elevated command prompt. Right click command on >> >> start and run as administrator. >> >> 4) Run 3 or so spyware scans Windows Defender, , Adaware, and Spybot >> >> 5) Probably the most important for speed consistently and efficient >> resource >> >> use DEFRAG with www.raxco.com or www.diskeeeper.com with 15% free space >> on >> >> drive if DK and or >5% if Raxco's Perfect Disk. >> >> http://groups.msn.com/windowsxpcentral/spyware.msnw>> >> Download Adaware and >> >> Spybot from here. >> >> GOOD Overall Review for Defending Your PC: >> >> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/>> >> MSFT Defense Site MSFT Security: >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/security/default.mspx>> >> Protect Your PC from MSFT Security: >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.mspx>> >> MSFT Windows Defender >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx>> >> MSFT MSRT: (Malicious Software Removal Tool) >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx>> >> >> >> MSFT "Windows One Care" in Wings (AV and Spyware Scans) >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/may05/05-13WindowsOneCarePR.mspx>> >> 6) Unck items from msconfig start tab you don't need starting and some >> >> won't start--peoiple who think just uncking for many are naive because >> there >> >> are 12 places things can be started including several reg keys like Run >> Once >> >> keys and there are serveral. >> >> 7) Turn off Messaging service--it's a security vulnerability and it slows >> >> you >> >> 8) Defrag very often every other day actually. >> >> 9) Turn off indexing. >> >> 10) Clear TIF and %temp% files (delete) and go to safe mode to get as >> many >> >> as u can. >> >> 10) Do troubleshooting with msconfig. >> >> 11) Do Clean boot with msconfig utility and search for the directions >> here: >> >> >> >> >> >> Vista RTM Tweak Guide (Tweaks to Improve Performances) >> >> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-47,GGLJ:en&q=vista+rtm+tweak+guide>> >> >> >> 1) Task Manager lists the services on the services tab in Vista. >> >> 2) Type services.msc in run box and using the list of services, click the >> >> service and you'll get a description of services. >> >> 3) There is a list here of the default services and a description>>click >> >> "default settings for services" in the left pane. >> >> http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/library/3c5945ee-afb8-43ce-b39d-50e6d5b89bf81033.mspx?mfr=true>> >> >> >> 4) To view service dependencies >> >> 1. >> >> Open Services. >> >> 2. >> >> In the details pane, right-click the service that you want to view >> >> dependencies for, and then click Properties. >> >> 3. >> >> Click the Dependencies tab. >> >> 4. >> >> To view services that are associated dependencies of the selected >> service, >> >> in the list on the Dependencies tab, click the plus sign next to the >> >> service. >> >> Many of the services but not all in Vista are the same as in XP, so in >> that >> >> context: >> >> http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/services.htm>> >> >> Also see the extremely helpful site: >> >> Black Viper's Service List >> >> http://www.dead-eye.net/WinXP%20Services.htm>> >> >> Black Viper's Site (Many of the same services in Vista) >> >> http://www.dead-eye.net/WinXP%20Services.htm>> >> >> http://www.z123.org/techsupport/xpservices.htm>> >> >> http://www.geocities.com/ziyadhosein/xpserv1.htm>> >> >> http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php>> >> This will be helpful >> >> http://web.archive.org/web/20041128084144/www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm>> >> ______________________________________________________________________________________________ >> >> How to troubleshoot by using the System Configuration utility in Windows >> XP >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310560/>> >> Resources for troubleshooting startup problems in Windows XP >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308041/>> >> How to perform advanced clean-boot troubleshooting in Windows XP >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;316434>> >> How to perform a clean boot in Windows XP >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353/>> >> How to Disable a Service or Device that Prevents Windows from Starting >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310602/>> >> >> >> Also ck out these references: >> >> http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,5155,00.asp>> >> >> >> http://www.speedupyourcomputer.windowsreinstall.com/index.htm>> >> and >> >> http://www.extremetech.com/search_results/0%2C2426%2C%2C00.asp?qry=how+to+speed+windows+xp&filterapp=&site=4P.S.>> >> >> >> Defragging with a decent defrag every day will make a huge dent >> inefficient >> >> resource/CPU use. >> >> Perfect Disk has a 5 month full functionality trial on now for Windows >> >> Vista. >> >> Good luck, >> >> CH >> >> >> "AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:8056A878-B39B-495B-BB35-A9FB41BF0491[ at ]microsoft.com... >>> hey peeps.. >>> >>> Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If >>> your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything. >>> >>> Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig >>> ram, >>> came from the shop with vista enabled etc. >>> >>> So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading, >>> why >>> would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along with >>> my >>> buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... >>> AND >>> BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*. >>> >>> Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed >>> or >>> uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im >>> not >>> interested. I want an answer. >>> >>> There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about >>> vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war- >>> AND >>> -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista. >>> >>> And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or >>> uninstalled >>> or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not >>> interested. >>> >>> I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for >>> software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job >>> buying >>> this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a >>> MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation. >>> -- >>> www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz >>> >>> We make quality tunes >> > >
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I make sure to turn off all the fancy slide out menus, shadowing, etc etc
etc.
Don't ever "let Windows decide" what is best for your machine.
I prefer to configure for best performance.
right click my computer>properties
click advanced system settings
tell the User Access Control nag me to death screen, yes, it's really,
really, really me.
on advanced tab, performance section, click settings
click in the 'adjust for best performance' circle, click apply.
wait for it to apply your settings.
at the bottom of the control panel/system & maintenance/system screen (which
is what should show after you close advanced settings)
click performance
click indexing options
turn indexing off
your machine should now run faster.
"AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8056A878-B39B-495B-BB35-A9FB41BF0491[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > hey peeps..
>
> Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If
> your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything.
>
> Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig ram,
> came from the shop with vista enabled etc.
>
> So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading, why
> would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along with
> my
> buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... AND
> BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*.
>
> Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed or
> uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im
> not
> interested. I want an answer.
>
> There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about
> vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war- AND
> -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista.
>
> And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or uninstalled
> or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not
> interested.
>
> I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for
> software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job buying
> this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a
> MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation.
> --
> www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
>
> We make quality tunes
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I wouldn't say that it is Microsoft that is to blame or doing the shoving.
It is the OEM/system builders that are equiping these machines that way, and
hardware manufacturers that are not writing proper drivers. Nothing
Microsoft can do about that but make the OS mainstream and force (throught
the powers of consumer demand) hardware manufacturers to make their hardware
and software compatible.
It's the drive for cheap computers that moves consumers (and OEMs) to
underpowered computers.
Robert Firth
http://www.winvistainfo.org
"Telstar" <none[ at ]none> wrote in message
news:u$WM5ZwsHHA.1212[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Finally, as a Microsoft user for over twenty years, this really, really
> does strike me as a shove it down your throat approach.
>
>
> "Telstar" <none[ at ]none> wrote in message
> news:OaliWXwsHHA.4572[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Do you really think that these buyers are going "oh! I made a mistake
>> with my hardware)"? NO. They are trashing Microsoft and the OS.
>>
>> Microsoft shot itself in the foot here...they had control and now have
>> lost it.
>>
>>
>> "Telstar" <none[ at ]none> wrote in message
>> news:eoWv3UwsHHA.4364[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> THEN THE COMPUTERS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SOLD!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OZ2LH1vsHHA.400[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Celerons are slow with any operating system. People who have good
>>>> performance are NOT using these processors.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Richard Urban
>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:8056A878-B39B-495B-BB35-A9FB41BF0491[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>>>> hey peeps..
>>>>>
>>>>> Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you
>>>>> If
>>>>> your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything.
>>>>>
>>>>> Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig
>>>>> ram,
>>>>> came from the shop with vista enabled etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading,
>>>>> why
>>>>> would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along
>>>>> with my
>>>>> buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both....
>>>>> AND
>>>>> BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*.
>>>>>
>>>>> Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed
>>>>> or
>>>>> uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos
>>>>> Im not
>>>>> interested. I want an answer.
>>>>>
>>>>> There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about
>>>>> vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war-
>>>>> AND
>>>>> -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or
>>>>> uninstalled
>>>>> or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not
>>>>> interested.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth
>>>>> for
>>>>> software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job
>>>>> buying
>>>>> this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a
>>>>> MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation.
>>>>> --
>>>>> www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
>>>>>
>>>>> We make quality tunes
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Well put, ok no install or uninstall. Try fixing your registry. Or even
support from the place you bought the machine... Vista shouldn't run any
slower, maybe a few teething problems and compatibility issues. My top also
came with vista and when I installed a few wrong programs it slowed down a
whole load. System restore to the 1st point made and it was sorted. I was
more carful with what I choose to install. Rather be ahead of the crowd...
Use the latest and learn from its defects. This way you are forced to know
what you are doing.
Otherwise use XP and in a year or so when there is little out there for it
you will be posting, Eish where can find this for the OLD xp or how come XP
doesn't have support for this... etc...
"AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8056A878-B39B-495B-BB35-A9FB41BF0491[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > hey peeps..
>
> Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If
> your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything.
>
> Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig ram,
> came from the shop with vista enabled etc.
>
> So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading, why
> would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along with
> my
> buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... AND
> BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*.
>
> Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed or
> uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im
> not
> interested. I want an answer.
>
> There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about
> vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war- AND
> -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista.
>
> And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or uninstalled
> or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not
> interested.
>
> I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for
> software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job buying
> this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a
> MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation.
> --
> www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
>
> We make quality tunes
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whine all you want.
it is REQUIRED that you upgrade to the latest drivers for your system.
like it or not.
celeron is now known for being a FAST processor.
mikeyhsd[ at ]comcast.net
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"Dave Cox" <dcox1961[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > "Not Me" <cargod01[ at ]bresnan.net> wrote in
> news:ee4fFowsHHA.4196[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:
>
> Why did I change to Vista? I just like new experiences to me XP was
> old and boring.
I'd go along with that.
Worth installing if only to escape the repetitiveness of
windowsxp.general.......
........although I suspect there'll be a few more thousand enquiries on how
to add an item to Vista's 'Sendto' menu, before the year is out.
--
Jon
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:13:36 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
<jones_jupiter[ at ]hotnomail.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text] >"Companies like Dell and HP are selling underpowered..."
>Exactly the same thing happened when Windows XP was released.
>It seems the new operating system always has a "sinking" reputation
>until the next is released.
Total nonsensical statement. Oh wait, it's only Jupiter, that's the
only kind he ever makes.
MVP = Mostly valueless Poster
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"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OZ2LH1vsHHA.400[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Celerons are slow with any operating system. People who have good
> performance are NOT using these processors.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
Absolutely. Cheap, underpowered laptop with a bad CPU and insufficient
memory. That 256 meg video is SHARED, not dedicated.
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Hmm.. seems like I opened a can of worms last night, then woke up to find
it still squirming. Lol.....
First off..... XP did have lots wrong with it and there were forums just
like these with ppl saying shtuff like this... and now look, they sorted it.
It needs ppl saying its not working to get them actually earning their money
and release some damn updates that improve the system. I really hope that in
a couple of years they will have sorted this problem with vista and it will
run better than XP..... BUT ITS NOW THAT COUNTS. Im not in the next year and
I dont want to upgrade. Maybe I should have done my homework and got better
job and wife and 2 kids and BMW and so have money to upgrade, but I didnt,
and neither do the majority of the world. Climb off your high horse.
Second... I didnt want opinions on how to clear my startup progs etc.
although thanks as you were trying to help. I am whining and said congrats if
yours works fine... All I seem to get on these forums Is 90% Idiots saying
some sarcastic crap. How about you take the insults away from being personal
and try to form a community telling microsoft that vista just isnt ready yet
(for most ppl).
Third... Celeron isnt THIS slow so its not the power of the laptop. I
remember having a really cak computer all those years ago and running some
games I tried on this and it just doesnt work. If vista needs that much power
then its NOT READY and they should not be selling it to ppl for general use.
Vista WILL become the next OS used same way as 95, 98, XP and all the niggly
bits between. But not yet. I will await yet more piles of crap in reply with
the occasional diamond in the rough. i.e. what val said about the power as
that was something different.. I checked and its not that.... and to Will_s
I say the reason I posted and said dont give answers on the various issues is
cos IV TRIED these things. I want answers like vals or support of ppl who are
in similar situations not from fools looking to jab a finger.
What I would prefer in reply is if ppl have constructive criticism or good
progs that work with vista. Maybe also some info on some dude saying "yeah
but I saw an article saying Microsoft are working hard to sort and there is
an update out in august which sorts lots of these issues" (im dreaming here
methinks). Otherwise Im gonna take this back and get XP home until vista
works properly. I will keep you posted on this progress.
And be warned... all Idiots will be laughed at with much hillarity and
rolling around on the floor with much merryment. yarp... The munky has
spoken....
--
www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
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Sorry to inform you but a Celeron ***IS*** that slow, due to the lack of a
proper on-die cache.
Celeron is the cheapest of the cheap. No computer has ever given a good
write up of a Celeron.
You get what you pay for.
***YOU*** got what you paid for. Now you have to live with it.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
"AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:801E9165-0AB4-4AC2-8D1E-CCC15535B86C[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Hmm.. seems like I opened a can of worms last night, then woke up to
> find
> it still squirming. Lol.....
>
> First off..... XP did have lots wrong with it and there were forums just
> like these with ppl saying shtuff like this... and now look, they sorted
> it.
> It needs ppl saying its not working to get them actually earning their
> money
> and release some damn updates that improve the system. I really hope that
> in
> a couple of years they will have sorted this problem with vista and it
> will
> run better than XP..... BUT ITS NOW THAT COUNTS. Im not in the next year
> and
> I dont want to upgrade. Maybe I should have done my homework and got
> better
> job and wife and 2 kids and BMW and so have money to upgrade, but I didnt,
> and neither do the majority of the world. Climb off your high horse.
>
> Second... I didnt want opinions on how to clear my startup progs etc.
> although thanks as you were trying to help. I am whining and said congrats
> if
> yours works fine... All I seem to get on these forums Is 90% Idiots saying
> some sarcastic crap. How about you take the insults away from being
> personal
> and try to form a community telling microsoft that vista just isnt ready
> yet
> (for most ppl).
>
> Third... Celeron isnt THIS slow so its not the power of the laptop. I
> remember having a really cak computer all those years ago and running some
> games I tried on this and it just doesnt work. If vista needs that much
> power
> then its NOT READY and they should not be selling it to ppl for general
> use.
> Vista WILL become the next OS used same way as 95, 98, XP and all the
> niggly
> bits between. But not yet. I will await yet more piles of crap in reply
> with
> the occasional diamond in the rough. i.e. what val said about the power as
> that was something different.. I checked and its not that.... and to
> Will_s
> I say the reason I posted and said dont give answers on the various issues
> is
> cos IV TRIED these things. I want answers like vals or support of ppl who
> are
> in similar situations not from fools looking to jab a finger.
>
> What I would prefer in reply is if ppl have constructive criticism or good
> progs that work with vista. Maybe also some info on some dude saying "yeah
> but I saw an article saying Microsoft are working hard to sort and there
> is
> an update out in august which sorts lots of these issues" (im dreaming
> here
> methinks). Otherwise Im gonna take this back and get XP home until vista
> works properly. I will keep you posted on this progress.
>
> And be warned... all Idiots will be laughed at with much hillarity and
> rolling around on the floor with much merryment. yarp... The munky has
> spoken....
>
> --
> www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
>
> We make quality tunes
>
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Go and return your PC, and buy a better PC. The cheapest systems will
always perform terribly, that's why they're cheap.
--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.windowsresource.net/
*Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
"AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8056A878-B39B-495B-BB35-A9FB41BF0491[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > hey peeps..
>
> Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If
> your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything.
>
> Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig ram,
> came from the shop with vista enabled etc.
>
> So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading, why
> would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along with
> my
> buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... AND
> BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*.
>
> Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed or
> uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im
> not
> interested. I want an answer.
>
> There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about
> vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war- AND
> -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista.
>
> And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or uninstalled
> or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not
> interested.
>
> I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for
> software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job buying
> this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a
> MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation.
> --
> www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
>
> We make quality tunes
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Adam Albright wrote:
[Quoted Text] >
> Total nonsensical statement. Oh wait, it's only Jupiter, that's the
> only kind he ever makes.
>
> MVP = Mostly valueless Poster
>
There he goes again!
Open with an insult!
You're out of control georgie boy. You need to step away from your
computer and get control of yourself.
Your worthless bandwidth sucking gibberish will no longer be tolerated
in this ng.
Frank
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See where YOUR processor is on this list. It barely makes the bottom.
http://www.systemshootouts.org/processors.html
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
"AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:801E9165-0AB4-4AC2-8D1E-CCC15535B86C[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Hmm.. seems like I opened a can of worms last night, then woke up to
> find
> it still squirming. Lol.....
>
> First off..... XP did have lots wrong with it and there were forums just
> like these with ppl saying shtuff like this... and now look, they sorted
> it.
> It needs ppl saying its not working to get them actually earning their
> money
> and release some damn updates that improve the system. I really hope that
> in
> a couple of years they will have sorted this problem with vista and it
> will
> run better than XP..... BUT ITS NOW THAT COUNTS. Im not in the next year
> and
> I dont want to upgrade. Maybe I should have done my homework and got
> better
> job and wife and 2 kids and BMW and so have money to upgrade, but I didnt,
> and neither do the majority of the world. Climb off your high horse.
>
> Second... I didnt want opinions on how to clear my startup progs etc.
> although thanks as you were trying to help. I am whining and said congrats
> if
> yours works fine... All I seem to get on these forums Is 90% Idiots saying
> some sarcastic crap. How about you take the insults away from being
> personal
> and try to form a community telling microsoft that vista just isnt ready
> yet
> (for most ppl).
>
> Third... Celeron isnt THIS slow so its not the power of the laptop. I
> remember having a really cak computer all those years ago and running some
> games I tried on this and it just doesnt work. If vista needs that much
> power
> then its NOT READY and they should not be selling it to ppl for general
> use.
> Vista WILL become the next OS used same way as 95, 98, XP and all the
> niggly
> bits between. But not yet. I will await yet more piles of crap in reply
> with
> the occasional diamond in the rough. i.e. what val said about the power as
> that was something different.. I checked and its not that.... and to
> Will_s
> I say the reason I posted and said dont give answers on the various issues
> is
> cos IV TRIED these things. I want answers like vals or support of ppl who
> are
> in similar situations not from fools looking to jab a finger.
>
> What I would prefer in reply is if ppl have constructive criticism or good
> progs that work with vista. Maybe also some info on some dude saying "yeah
> but I saw an article saying Microsoft are working hard to sort and there
> is
> an update out in august which sorts lots of these issues" (im dreaming
> here
> methinks). Otherwise Im gonna take this back and get XP home until vista
> works properly. I will keep you posted on this progress.
>
> And be warned... all Idiots will be laughed at with much hillarity and
> rolling around on the floor with much merryment. yarp... The munky has
> spoken....
>
> --
> www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
>
> We make quality tunes
>
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Sorry but your wrong in a few ways and right in others.
I agree the performance is not amazing but Iv used other lower end
celerons in the past and games and dvd's work fine you just cant pump em up
to a decent graphics etc... this thing wont run properly...
It takes ages to open a notepad document or just as long to open the game.
I even put the halo demo on with all specs at lowest then all specs at
highest and it ran EXACTLY the same. Surly if the system just couldnt handle
it then at higher specs it would either not run or run even SLOWER. but it
doesnt. Why cant you understand its not the specs. I bet u when I get em to
put XP home on it will run the game just fine.
This OS is not ready. If I need a high end computer to run the same progs,
old and new, on a vista OS then I think value for money (which is important
to those without much) is not being had with the current OS. I am not keen on
microsoft and would like to learn to use linux but microsoft have offered the
most friendly and easy to use OS till vista. That will change when vista gets
an overhaul just like previous incarnations of windows have.
All of you who say "well you get what you payed for etc.." just come out
sounding snobbish basicly saying "I have more money than u, deal with
it"..... I sincerely hope you dont mean it in that way and I try to think
the best of ppl but I accept some peeps really dont care and seem to browse
forums with the sole aim of putting people down. I hope it makes their lives
truly better and does them some good (like running into a lamppost).
--
www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
We make quality tunes
"Paul Smith" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Go and return your PC, and buy a better PC. The cheapest systems will > always perform terribly, that's why they're cheap. > > -- > Paul Smith, > Yeovil, UK. > Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User. > http://www.windowsresource.net/> > *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail* > > > "AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:8056A878-B39B-495B-BB35-A9FB41BF0491[ at ]microsoft.com... > > hey peeps.. > > > > Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If > > your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything. > > > > Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig ram, > > came from the shop with vista enabled etc. > > > > So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading, why > > would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along with > > my > > buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... AND > > BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*. > > > > Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed or > > uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im > > not > > interested. I want an answer. > > > > There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about > > vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war- AND > > -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista. > > > > And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or uninstalled > > or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not > > interested. > > > > I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for > > software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job buying > > this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a > > MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation. > > -- > > www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz > > > > We make quality tunes > > |
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"AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > It takes ages to open a notepad document or just as long to open the game.
Then the system is not suitable for the purposes of which it was sold and
should be returned, and either replaced or fixed.
--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.windowsresource.net/
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I kind of agree but there are things Microsoft can do. If Vista isnt up to
scratch AND suppliers are selling pc's that are not good enough then sounds
like they both have a responsibility to correct that problem. What is going
to happen is Microsoft will improve vista and suppliers will be as crap as
ever. But im not using vista on this machine when XP will run better. When
the standard of pc's rise to fit vista and vista becomes (which it will) more
compatable THEN I'll buy a new pc. Till then XP all the way as its now stable
and been out for years so has been tweaked by MS.
--
www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
We make quality tunes
"Robert Firth" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > I wouldn't say that it is Microsoft that is to blame or doing the shoving. > It is the OEM/system builders that are equiping these machines that way, and > hardware manufacturers that are not writing proper drivers. Nothing > Microsoft can do about that but make the OS mainstream and force (throught > the powers of consumer demand) hardware manufacturers to make their hardware > and software compatible. > > It's the drive for cheap computers that moves consumers (and OEMs) to > underpowered computers. > > Robert Firth > http://www.winvistainfo.org> > "Telstar" <none[ at ]none> wrote in message > news:u$WM5ZwsHHA.1212[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > Finally, as a Microsoft user for over twenty years, this really, really > > does strike me as a shove it down your throat approach. > > > > > > "Telstar" <none[ at ]none> wrote in message > > news:OaliWXwsHHA.4572[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >> Do you really think that these buyers are going "oh! I made a mistake > >> with my hardware)"? NO. They are trashing Microsoft and the OS. > >> > >> Microsoft shot itself in the foot here...they had control and now have > >> lost it. > >> > >> > >> "Telstar" <none[ at ]none> wrote in message > >> news:eoWv3UwsHHA.4364[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >>> THEN THE COMPUTERS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SOLD!!!!!!!! > >>> > >>> > >>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message > >>> news:OZ2LH1vsHHA.400[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >>>> Celerons are slow with any operating system. People who have good > >>>> performance are NOT using these processors. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> > >>>> Richard Urban > >>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User > >>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> "AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message > >>>> news:8056A878-B39B-495B-BB35-A9FB41BF0491[ at ]microsoft.com... > >>>>> hey peeps.. > >>>>> > >>>>> Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you > >>>>> If > >>>>> your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything. > >>>>> > >>>>> Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig > >>>>> ram, > >>>>> came from the shop with vista enabled etc. > >>>>> > >>>>> So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading, > >>>>> why > >>>>> would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along > >>>>> with my > >>>>> buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... > >>>>> AND > >>>>> BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*. > >>>>> > >>>>> Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed > >>>>> or > >>>>> uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos > >>>>> Im not > >>>>> interested. I want an answer. > >>>>> > >>>>> There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about > >>>>> vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war- > >>>>> AND > >>>>> -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista. > >>>>> > >>>>> And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or > >>>>> uninstalled > >>>>> or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not > >>>>> interested. > >>>>> > >>>>> I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth > >>>>> for > >>>>> software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job > >>>>> buying > >>>>> this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a > >>>>> MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation. > >>>>> -- > >>>>> www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz > >>>>> > >>>>> We make quality tunes > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > |
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AnaLoGMunKy wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Sorry but your wrong in a few ways and right in others.
>
> I agree the performance is not amazing but Iv used other lower end
> celerons in the past and games and dvd's work fine you just cant pump em up
> to a decent graphics etc... this thing wont run properly...
>
> It takes ages to open a notepad document or just as long to open the game.
> I even put the halo demo on with all specs at lowest then all specs at
> highest and it ran EXACTLY the same.
Sounds to me like your hard drive is spinning down to save power, and
you're having to wait for it to spin back up. Check your power settings.
Alun Harford
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So you fall into the 90% Idiot category? You can afford a BMW and you have
a Celeron? Don't think so (BMW of course)
Maybe your Monkey needs spanking :-)
"AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:801E9165-0AB4-4AC2-8D1E-CCC15535B86C[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Hmm.. seems like I opened a can of worms last night, then woke up to
> find
> it still squirming. Lol.....
>
> First off..... XP did have lots wrong with it and there were forums just
> like these with ppl saying shtuff like this... and now look, they sorted
> it.
> It needs ppl saying its not working to get them actually earning their
> money
> and release some damn updates that improve the system. I really hope that
> in
> a couple of years they will have sorted this problem with vista and it
> will
> run better than XP..... BUT ITS NOW THAT COUNTS. Im not in the next year
> and
> I dont want to upgrade. Maybe I should have done my homework and got
> better
> job and wife and 2 kids and BMW and so have money to upgrade, but I didnt,
> and neither do the majority of the world. Climb off your high horse.
>
> Second... I didnt want opinions on how to clear my startup progs etc.
> although thanks as you were trying to help. I am whining and said congrats
> if
> yours works fine... All I seem to get on these forums Is 90% Idiots saying
> some sarcastic crap. How about you take the insults away from being
> personal
> and try to form a community telling microsoft that vista just isnt ready
> yet
> (for most ppl).
>
> Third... Celeron isnt THIS slow so its not the power of the laptop. I
> remember having a really cak computer all those years ago and running some
> games I tried on this and it just doesnt work. If vista needs that much
> power
> then its NOT READY and they should not be selling it to ppl for general
> use.
> Vista WILL become the next OS used same way as 95, 98, XP and all the
> niggly
> bits between. But not yet. I will await yet more piles of crap in reply
> with
> the occasional diamond in the rough. i.e. what val said about the power as
> that was something different.. I checked and its not that.... and to
> Will_s
> I say the reason I posted and said dont give answers on the various issues
> is
> cos IV TRIED these things. I want answers like vals or support of ppl who
> are
> in similar situations not from fools looking to jab a finger.
>
> What I would prefer in reply is if ppl have constructive criticism or good
> progs that work with vista. Maybe also some info on some dude saying "yeah
> but I saw an article saying Microsoft are working hard to sort and there
> is
> an update out in august which sorts lots of these issues" (im dreaming
> here
> methinks). Otherwise Im gonna take this back and get XP home until vista
> works properly. I will keep you posted on this progress.
>
> And be warned... all Idiots will be laughed at with much hillarity and
> rolling around on the floor with much merryment. yarp... The munky has
> spoken....
>
> --
> www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
>
> We make quality tunes
>
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"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OZ2LH1vsHHA.400[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Celerons are slow with any operating system. People who have good
> performance are NOT using these processors.
>
This is incorrect. The last celerons had the same base as pentium 4, only
the cache was different.
The real reasons for the downplay of celerons are 2.
1) A bad history with older celerons that were indeed slower
2) Its all about marketing (its too complicated to get into this now)
I have done a comparison a while back between normal pentiums and celerons
of the same speed...
the difference was minimal
for example a celeron at 2600mhz was faster than a pentium 4 at 2400mhz
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1- Ill have you know I spank my munky daily.
2- I dont have a BMW thats what I was saying.
3- What the hell is your point, looks like your one of the 90% I was talking
about.
--
www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
We make quality tunes
"Bill Yanaire" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > So you fall into the 90% Idiot category? You can afford a BMW and you have
> a Celeron? Don't think so (BMW of course)
>
> Maybe your Monkey needs spanking :-)
>
>
> "AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:801E9165-0AB4-4AC2-8D1E-CCC15535B86C[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > Hmm.. seems like I opened a can of worms last night, then woke up to
> > find
> > it still squirming. Lol.....
> >
> > First off..... XP did have lots wrong with it and there were forums just
> > like these with ppl saying shtuff like this... and now look, they sorted
> > it.
> > It needs ppl saying its not working to get them actually earning their
> > money
> > and release some damn updates that improve the system. I really hope that
> > in
> > a couple of years they will have sorted this problem with vista and it
> > will
> > run better than XP..... BUT ITS NOW THAT COUNTS. Im not in the next year
> > and
> > I dont want to upgrade. Maybe I should have done my homework and got
> > better
> > job and wife and 2 kids and BMW and so have money to upgrade, but I didnt,
> > and neither do the majority of the world. Climb off your high horse.
> >
> > Second... I didnt want opinions on how to clear my startup progs etc.
> > although thanks as you were trying to help. I am whining and said congrats
> > if
> > yours works fine... All I seem to get on these forums Is 90% Idiots saying
> > some sarcastic crap. How about you take the insults away from being
> > personal
> > and try to form a community telling microsoft that vista just isnt ready
> > yet
> > (for most ppl).
> >
> > Third... Celeron isnt THIS slow so its not the power of the laptop. I
> > remember having a really cak computer all those years ago and running some
> > games I tried on this and it just doesnt work. If vista needs that much
> > power
> > then its NOT READY and they should not be selling it to ppl for general
> > use.
> > Vista WILL become the next OS used same way as 95, 98, XP and all the
> > niggly
> > bits between. But not yet. I will await yet more piles of crap in reply
> > with
> > the occasional diamond in the rough. i.e. what val said about the power as
> > that was something different.. I checked and its not that.... and to
> > Will_s
> > I say the reason I posted and said dont give answers on the various issues
> > is
> > cos IV TRIED these things. I want answers like vals or support of ppl who
> > are
> > in similar situations not from fools looking to jab a finger.
> >
> > What I would prefer in reply is if ppl have constructive criticism or good
> > progs that work with vista. Maybe also some info on some dude saying "yeah
> > but I saw an article saying Microsoft are working hard to sort and there
> > is
> > an update out in august which sorts lots of these issues" (im dreaming
> > here
> > methinks). Otherwise Im gonna take this back and get XP home until vista
> > works properly. I will keep you posted on this progress.
> >
> > And be warned... all Idiots will be laughed at with much hillarity and
> > rolling around on the floor with much merryment. yarp... The munky has
> > spoken....
> >
> > --
> > www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
> >
> > We make quality tunes
> >
>
>
>
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 07:22:59 -0700, Frank <fb[ at ]nospamm.cmm> wrote:
[Quoted Text] >Adam Albright wrote:
>
>>
>> Total nonsensical statement. Oh wait, it's only Jupiter, that's the
>> only kind he ever makes.
>>
>> MVP = Mostly valueless Poster
>>
>
>There he goes again!
>Open with an insult!
>You're out of control georgie boy. You need to step away from your
>computer and get control of yourself.
>Your worthless bandwidth sucking gibberish will no longer be tolerated
>in this ng.
>Frank
You have problems with facts don't you Frank. You sound more and more
like Justin every day. Are you really Justin? Odd that you've been
flapping your gums non stop and suddenly the idiot known as Justin has
disappeared. Come clean Frankie.
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Maybe but Iv looked at the power settings and everything is on high
preformance. The HD is set to spin down after 20 mins but maybe its not
working. Iv looked thru the other power options and so far it doesnt explain
preformance this poor. Either this computer is skrewed or vista wont run on
it.
Im going to get the guy in the shop to show me vista running on another one
and if it just turns out to be this pc then Ill get a replacement. Otherwise
back to XP.
--
www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
We make quality tunes
"Alun Harford" wrote:
[Quoted Text] >
> Sounds to me like your hard drive is spinning down to save power, and
> you're having to wait for it to spin back up. Check your power settings.
>
> Alun Harford
>
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Mis-read the fact about the BMW, and yes you are in the 90% category and
someone has to spank your Monkey, but at least you can do it. I am
surprised that after spanking the Monkey, you have time to get on the
computer !
and you have a myspace page. So does my teenage daughter !
"AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3E928CF1-1B84-48DF-9F0E-74717A642162[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > 1- Ill have you know I spank my munky daily.
> 2- I dont have a BMW thats what I was saying.
> 3- What the hell is your point, looks like your one of the 90% I was
> talking
> about.
> --
> www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
>
> We make quality tunes
>
>
> "Bill Yanaire" wrote:
>
>> So you fall into the 90% Idiot category? You can afford a BMW and you
>> have
>> a Celeron? Don't think so (BMW of course)
>>
>> Maybe your Monkey needs spanking :-)
>>
>>
>> "AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:801E9165-0AB4-4AC2-8D1E-CCC15535B86C[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> > Hmm.. seems like I opened a can of worms last night, then woke up to
>> > find
>> > it still squirming. Lol.....
>> >
>> > First off..... XP did have lots wrong with it and there were forums
>> > just
>> > like these with ppl saying shtuff like this... and now look, they
>> > sorted
>> > it.
>> > It needs ppl saying its not working to get them actually earning their
>> > money
>> > and release some damn updates that improve the system. I really hope
>> > that
>> > in
>> > a couple of years they will have sorted this problem with vista and it
>> > will
>> > run better than XP..... BUT ITS NOW THAT COUNTS. Im not in the next
>> > year
>> > and
>> > I dont want to upgrade. Maybe I should have done my homework and got
>> > better
>> > job and wife and 2 kids and BMW and so have money to upgrade, but I
>> > didnt,
>> > and neither do the majority of the world. Climb off your high horse.
>> >
>> > Second... I didnt want opinions on how to clear my startup progs etc.
>> > although thanks as you were trying to help. I am whining and said
>> > congrats
>> > if
>> > yours works fine... All I seem to get on these forums Is 90% Idiots
>> > saying
>> > some sarcastic crap. How about you take the insults away from being
>> > personal
>> > and try to form a community telling microsoft that vista just isnt
>> > ready
>> > yet
>> > (for most ppl).
>> >
>> > Third... Celeron isnt THIS slow so its not the power of the laptop. I
>> > remember having a really cak computer all those years ago and running
>> > some
>> > games I tried on this and it just doesnt work. If vista needs that much
>> > power
>> > then its NOT READY and they should not be selling it to ppl for general
>> > use.
>> > Vista WILL become the next OS used same way as 95, 98, XP and all the
>> > niggly
>> > bits between. But not yet. I will await yet more piles of crap in reply
>> > with
>> > the occasional diamond in the rough. i.e. what val said about the power
>> > as
>> > that was something different.. I checked and its not that.... and to
>> > Will_s
>> > I say the reason I posted and said dont give answers on the various
>> > issues
>> > is
>> > cos IV TRIED these things. I want answers like vals or support of ppl
>> > who
>> > are
>> > in similar situations not from fools looking to jab a finger.
>> >
>> > What I would prefer in reply is if ppl have constructive criticism or
>> > good
>> > progs that work with vista. Maybe also some info on some dude saying
>> > "yeah
>> > but I saw an article saying Microsoft are working hard to sort and
>> > there
>> > is
>> > an update out in august which sorts lots of these issues" (im dreaming
>> > here
>> > methinks). Otherwise Im gonna take this back and get XP home until
>> > vista
>> > works properly. I will keep you posted on this progress.
>> >
>> > And be warned... all Idiots will be laughed at with much hillarity and
>> > rolling around on the floor with much merryment. yarp... The munky has
>> > spoken....
>> >
>> > --
>> > www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
>> >
>> > We make quality tunes
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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I am on the computer when I spank my munky... thats why I got it, lol.
Its not MY myspace, its OUR myspace. Me and my buddy make tunes. Its to get
our music out there, not to say "hi im melanie, I like beachball and am a
size 44d". Maybe you should take a look, you might like our music...
--
www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
We make quality tunes
"Bill Yanaire" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Mis-read the fact about the BMW, and yes you are in the 90% category and
> someone has to spank your Monkey, but at least you can do it. I am
> surprised that after spanking the Monkey, you have time to get on the
> computer !
>
> and you have a myspace page. So does my teenage daughter !
>
>
> "AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3E928CF1-1B84-48DF-9F0E-74717A642162[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > 1- Ill have you know I spank my munky daily.
> > 2- I dont have a BMW thats what I was saying.
> > 3- What the hell is your point, looks like your one of the 90% I was
> > talking
> > about.
> > --
> > www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
> >
> > We make quality tunes
> >
> >
> > "Bill Yanaire" wrote:
> >
> >> So you fall into the 90% Idiot category? You can afford a BMW and you
> >> have
> >> a Celeron? Don't think so (BMW of course)
> >>
> >> Maybe your Monkey needs spanking :-)
> >>
> >>
> >> "AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:801E9165-0AB4-4AC2-8D1E-CCC15535B86C[ at ]microsoft.com...
> >> > Hmm.. seems like I opened a can of worms last night, then woke up to
> >> > find
> >> > it still squirming. Lol.....
> >> >
> >> > First off..... XP did have lots wrong with it and there were forums
> >> > just
> >> > like these with ppl saying shtuff like this... and now look, they
> >> > sorted
> >> > it.
> >> > It needs ppl saying its not working to get them actually earning their
> >> > money
> >> > and release some damn updates that improve the system. I really hope
> >> > that
> >> > in
> >> > a couple of years they will have sorted this problem with vista and it
> >> > will
> >> > run better than XP..... BUT ITS NOW THAT COUNTS. Im not in the next
> >> > year
> >> > and
> >> > I dont want to upgrade. Maybe I should have done my homework and got
> >> > better
> >> > job and wife and 2 kids and BMW and so have money to upgrade, but I
> >> > didnt,
> >> > and neither do the majority of the world. Climb off your high horse.
> >> >
> >> > Second... I didnt want opinions on how to clear my startup progs etc.
> >> > although thanks as you were trying to help. I am whining and said
> >> > congrats
> >> > if
> >> > yours works fine... All I seem to get on these forums Is 90% Idiots
> >> > saying
> >> > some sarcastic crap. How about you take the insults away from being
> >> > personal
> >> > and try to form a community telling microsoft that vista just isnt
> >> > ready
> >> > yet
> >> > (for most ppl).
> >> >
> >> > Third... Celeron isnt THIS slow so its not the power of the laptop. I
> >> > remember having a really cak computer all those years ago and running
> >> > some
> >> > games I tried on this and it just doesnt work. If vista needs that much
> >> > power
> >> > then its NOT READY and they should not be selling it to ppl for general
> >> > use.
> >> > Vista WILL become the next OS used same way as 95, 98, XP and all the
> >> > niggly
> >> > bits between. But not yet. I will await yet more piles of crap in reply
> >> > with
> >> > the occasional diamond in the rough. i.e. what val said about the power
> >> > as
> >> > that was something different.. I checked and its not that.... and to
> >> > Will_s
> >> > I say the reason I posted and said dont give answers on the various
> >> > issues
> >> > is
> >> > cos IV TRIED these things. I want answers like vals or support of ppl
> >> > who
> >> > are
> >> > in similar situations not from fools looking to jab a finger.
> >> >
> >> > What I would prefer in reply is if ppl have constructive criticism or
> >> > good
> >> > progs that work with vista. Maybe also some info on some dude saying
> >> > "yeah
> >> > but I saw an article saying Microsoft are working hard to sort and
> >> > there
> >> > is
> >> > an update out in august which sorts lots of these issues" (im dreaming
> >> > here
> >> > methinks). Otherwise Im gonna take this back and get XP home until
> >> > vista
> >> > works properly. I will keep you posted on this progress.
> >> >
> >> > And be warned... all Idiots will be laughed at with much hillarity and
> >> > rolling around on the floor with much merryment. yarp... The munky has
> >> > spoken....
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
> >> >
> >> > We make quality tunes
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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i don't think vista is the culprit here:
athlon xp 1700+ (barely the same processor power you have)
896mb ram (had 1gb but one chip died a few time ago), sdram 133 mhz (im not
joking you know)
gf 7600 256mb
vista is running, even if a bit slower than xp was, absolutely flawless and
surprisingly fast (rc1 in this very machine was pretty slow), with all bells
and whistles activated
and no, really, only a bit slower, it is not running much slower like many
ultra-idiotic-fanatic people may say, maybe some OLDER PROGRAMS may REDRAW
slower due to the changes made in that area (e.g. corel 9, some cad
programs, etc), but PROCESSOR and overall computer power is obviously the
very same... games should be affected also, until manufacturers give us
better drivers (e.g. nvidia speeds and ati opengl)
i've read that you will go to the store to check a live demonstration, i
think it is the way to go, if it is that much slower something is not right,
either in the crapware installed by the oem (try uninstalling every piece of
the stupid software oem used to install by default, this worked already in
some people i know for slower hd transfer rates they had), or either bad
hardware combination/support/drivers/health
another possibility may be software compatibility, but if even your notepad
will open slow, then it is not (over 1sec or less here, INCLUDING the
opening animation)
anyways, if unsure, you can try reinstalling vista, if it is still slow,
right to the store and get it changed
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I'm using an eMachines pc with Vista Home Basic on a Celeron(R) D CPU
3.46GHz, 3458 Mhz, with 512MB RAM, about $499 at WalMart.
It takes only a fraction of a second to open a text file, up to 10 seconds
for some programs, but not until I removed the OEM McAfee and replaced it
with Avast4 (free) and made adjustments and tweaks. Out of the box, it took
four times as long to restart as it does now. YMMV
Some software is Vista compaible, others only "work on Vista" but not very
well, and some just will not install even with 'compatibility' and 'run as
admin' options.
It's a learning experence that takes time. I think most people would be
better off using their old XP machines for work until they get their new
Vista computers running the way they want them, because most OEM systems are
not very well configured yet. IMHO
KB
"AnaLoGMunKy" wrote in message
news:9ECC1CDC-D02A-4E2F-B98C-F1E1E69453E4[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Sorry but your wrong in a few ways and right in others.
>
> I agree the performance is not amazing but Iv used other lower end
> celerons in the past and games and dvd's work fine you just cant pump em
> up
> to a decent graphics etc... this thing wont run properly...
>
> It takes ages to open a notepad document or just as long to open the game.
> I even put the halo demo on with all specs at lowest then all specs at
> highest and it ran EXACTLY the same. Surly if the system just couldnt
> handle
> it then at higher specs it would either not run or run even SLOWER. but it
> doesnt. Why cant you understand its not the specs. I bet u when I get em
> to
> put XP home on it will run the game just fine.
>
> This OS is not ready. If I need a high end computer to run the same progs,
> old and new, on a vista OS then I think value for money (which is
> important
> to those without much) is not being had with the current OS. I am not keen
> on
> microsoft and would like to learn to use linux but microsoft have offered
> the
> most friendly and easy to use OS till vista. That will change when vista
> gets
> an overhaul just like previous incarnations of windows have.
>
> All of you who say "well you get what you payed for etc.." just come out
> sounding snobbish basicly saying "I have more money than u, deal with
> it"..... I sincerely hope you dont mean it in that way and I try to think
> the best of ppl but I accept some peeps really dont care and seem to
> browse
> forums with the sole aim of putting people down. I hope it makes their
> lives
> truly better and does them some good (like running into a lamppost).
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AnaLoGMunKy [Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:00:01 -0700] wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Maybe but Iv looked at the power settings and everything is on high
>preformance. The HD is set to spin down after 20 mins but maybe its not
>working. Iv looked thru the other power options and so far it doesnt explain
>preformance this poor. Either this computer is skrewed or vista wont run on
>it.
If you're running an antivirus program on your machine, check whether
that is not the cause of slowness.
Marco
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you girls wanna have a cat fight, take it off line.
do not like the broken finger nails all over my screen.
mikeyhsd[ at ]comcast.net
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> MVP =3D Mostly valueless Poster
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:25:24 -0500, "mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd[ at ]sport.rr.com>
wrote:
[Quoted Text] >you girls wanna have a cat fight, take it off line.
>do not like the broken finger nails all over my screen.
>
Still trying to be a net cop Mickey?
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And here you go stalking me again.
Apparently your only purpose was to attack what I said while
contributing NOTHING useful for the OP.
When the subject is beyond your abilities, you seem to need to insult
others.
Very typical for you.
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"Adam Albright" <AA[ at ]ABC.net> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > Total nonsensical statement. Oh wait, it's only Jupiter, that's the
> only kind he ever makes.
>
> MVP = Mostly valueless Poster
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mikeyhsd wrote:
[Quoted Text] > you girls wanna have a cat fight, take it off line.
> do not like the broken finger nails all over my screen.
>
>
>
>
> mikeyhsd[ at ]comcast.net <mailto:mikeyhsd[ at ]comcast.net>
>
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> "Frank" <fb[ at ]nospamm.cmm <mailto:fb[ at ]nospamm.cmm>> wrote in message
> news:eS67Ba0sHHA.4796[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Adam Albright wrote:
>
> >
> > Total nonsensical statement. Oh wait, it's only Jupiter, that's the
> > only kind he ever makes.
> >
> > MVP = Mostly valueless Poster
> >
>
> There he goes again!
> Open with an insult!
> You're out of control georgie boy. You need to step away from your
> computer and get control of yourself.
> Your worthless bandwidth sucking gibberish will no longer be tolerated
> in this ng.
> Frank
I don't fight with drunks!
Frank
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What do you mean by "completely under-equipped."
When Windows XP was originally released, many computers sold by the
OEMs came with 64 MB RAM which is the minimum for Windows XP, but
"completely under-equipped." for many users.
The first thing many needed to do to get the desired performance was
increase memory.
Some also needed more powerful video cards.
Many issues raised today with Windows Vista are similar to those when
Windows XP was released almost 6 years ago.
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http://www.dts-l.org
"Telstar" <none[ at ]none> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > No. I bought computers from companies for a laboratory at that
> time. When XP came out, only computers *completely* functional and
> efficient with the product were sold.
>
> Now we have computers that are being sold that are completely
> under-equipped.
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Robert;
Microsoft is stuck between a rock and hard place.
If the minimum requirements are left as they are, you get complaints
as seen in this thread.
If the minimums are raised, Microsoft will be accused of helping the
hardware manufacturers since less current hardware would be compatible
and users would be forced to upgrade more hardware.
Perhaps more emphasis should be place on Recommended.
No matter what would have been done, there would have been complaints
from somewhere.
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"Robert Firth" <webmaster[ at ]winvistainfo.org> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] >I wouldn't say that it is Microsoft that is to blame or doing the >shoving. It is the OEM/system builders that are equiping these >machines that way, and hardware manufacturers that are not writing >proper drivers. Nothing Microsoft can do about that but make the OS >mainstream and force (throught the powers of consumer demand) >hardware manufacturers to make their hardware and software >compatible. > > It's the drive for cheap computers that moves consumers (and OEMs) > to underpowered computers. > > Robert Firth > http://www.winvistainfo.org
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Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Robert;
> Microsoft is stuck between a rock and hard place.
> If the minimum requirements are left as they are, you get complaints as
> seen in this thread.
> If the minimums are raised, Microsoft will be accused of helping the
> hardware manufacturers since less current hardware would be compatible
> and users would be forced to upgrade more hardware.
>
> Perhaps more emphasis should be place on Recommended.
> No matter what would have been done, there would have been complaints
> from somewhere.
>
There always are such complaints. In hindsight, do you think that vista
could have been designed to be as capable as it is with lesser hardware
requirements?
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norm
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AnaLoGMunKy wrote:
[Quoted Text] > hey peeps..
>
> Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If
> your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything.
>
> Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron,
A celeron? Vista's fine, it's your computer that's slow.
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[Quoted Text] > If the minimums are raised, Microsoft will be accused of helping the
> hardware manufacturers since less current hardware would be compatible and
> users would be forced to upgrade more hardware.
I'd think differently. As long as Moore's Law is well alive (which it is at
this time), one can get a much better hardware/system with the same amount
of money spent 2-3 years ago.
Therefore, I don't see the problem for raising the system requirement bar a
little bit to match the evolution of hardware. On the other hand, any
person with reasonable computer knowledge will know that it can't be true
for the minimum system requirement so that puts the company's statement into
questionable.
My "speculation" is that the purpose is to create an illusion for the
"minimum costs" of the system and/or OS for most people tend to think about
purchase cost only.
I definitely agree that they should put more emphasis on recommended system
requirements.
IMHO, the whole problem is IT industry wishes to positioning computers as a
home appliance and push it into every living room (at least this company
wishes to) but still can't come up any product including OS that even close
to a TV set in terms of usability and the best thing they (the entire
industry) can do is to create an illusion for the pricing factor which also
failed in most cases.
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter[ at ]hotnomail.com> wrote in message
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> Robert;
> Microsoft is stuck between a rock and hard place.
> If the minimum requirements are left as they are, you get complaints as
> seen in this thread.
> If the minimums are raised, Microsoft will be accused of helping the
> hardware manufacturers since less current hardware would be compatible and
> users would be forced to upgrade more hardware.
>
> Perhaps more emphasis should be place on Recommended.
> No matter what would have been done, there would have been complaints from
> somewhere.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Robert Firth" <webmaster[ at ]winvistainfo.org> wrote in message
> news:8FABBFB7-23E2-440C-AA6F-4CC77143C6D7[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>I wouldn't say that it is Microsoft that is to blame or doing the shoving.
>>It is the OEM/system builders that are equiping these machines that way,
>>and hardware manufacturers that are not writing proper drivers. Nothing
>>Microsoft can do about that but make the OS mainstream and force (throught
>>the powers of consumer demand) hardware manufacturers to make their
>>hardware and software compatible.
>>
>> It's the drive for cheap computers that moves consumers (and OEMs) to
>> underpowered computers.
>>
>> Robert Firth
>> http://www.winvistainfo.org
>
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"Frank" <fb[ at ]nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > mikeyhsd wrote:
>> you girls wanna have a cat fight, take it off line.
>> do not like the broken finger nails all over my screen.
>> mikeyhsd[ at ]comcast.net <mailto:mikeyhsd[ at ]comcast.net>
>>
>> "Frank" <fb[ at ]nospamm.cmm <mailto:fb[ at ]nospamm.cmm>> wrote in message
>> news:eS67Ba0sHHA.4796[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Adam Albright wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Total nonsensical statement. Oh wait, it's only Jupiter, that's
>> the
>> > only kind he ever makes.
>> >
>> > MVP = Mostly valueless Poster
>> >
>>
>> There he goes again!
>> Open with an insult!
>> You're out of control georgie boy. You need to step away from your
>> computer and get control of yourself.
>> Your worthless bandwidth sucking gibberish will no longer be
>> tolerated
>> in this ng.
>> Frank
>
>
> I don't fight with drunks!
> Frank
LOL!
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"AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > hey peeps..
>
> Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If
> your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything.
>
> Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig ram,
> came from the shop with vista enabled etc.
>
> So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading, why
> would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along with
> my
> buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... AND
> BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*.
>
Got Vista running on a Dell XPS Gen 2 with a P4 3Ghz, 256MB video and 1GB
RAM. Runs fine here. Games and everything.
Lang
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Now here's a surprising sequence of events - asking a bunch of people who
make their living from selling computer hardware for advice on how to speed
up your computer, and strangely enough ending up being advised to go back
to the computer shop for a replacement. How could that possibly happen ? ;-)
BTW I have Vista flying in a virtual machine here, on top of XP and on a
five year old machine.
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Jon
"AnaLoGMunKy" <roujinz3[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > hey peeps..
>
> Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If
> your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything.
>
> Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig ram,
> came from the shop with vista enabled etc.
>
> So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading, why
> would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along with
> my
> buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... AND
> BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*.
>
> Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed or
> uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im
> not
> interested. I want an answer.
>
> There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about
> vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war- AND
> -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista.
>
> And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or uninstalled
> or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not
> interested.
>
> I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for
> software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job buying
> this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a
> MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation.
> --
> www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
>
> We make quality tunes
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AnaLoGMunKy;352657 Wrote:
> hey peeps..
>
> Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If
> your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything.
>
> Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig
> ram,
> came from the shop with vista enabled etc.
>
> So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading,
> why
> would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along
> with my
> buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both....
> AND
> BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*.
>
> Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed
> or
> uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos
> Im not
> interested. I want an answer.
>
> There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about
> vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war-
> AND
> -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista.
>
> And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or
> uninstalled
> or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not
> interested.
>
> I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for
> software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job
> buying
> this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a
> MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation.
> --
> 'www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz' (http://www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz)
>
> We make quality tunes
Hi Ana,
Go to this link below and try the step by step process to see if it
helps you any.
'http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/72308-auto-tuning-tcp-ip-receive-level.html'
(http://tinyurl.com/24j8fq)
Hope this helps,
Shawn
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brink
*There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.*
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I agree, it's rediculously slow. Now I'm in a predicament, i need to buy a
new laptop but everything out there has this trash preinstalled. How do i get
anything nowdays that doesn't have Vista on it??
"brink" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > > AnaLoGMunKy;352657 Wrote: > > hey peeps.. > > > > Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If > > your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything. > > > > Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig > > ram, > > came from the shop with vista enabled etc. > > > > So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading, > > why > > would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along > > with my > > buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... > > AND > > BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*. > > > > Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed > > or > > uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos > > Im not > > interested. I want an answer. > > > > There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about > > vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war- > > AND > > -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista. > > > > And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or > > uninstalled > > or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not > > interested. > > > > I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for > > software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job > > buying > > this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a > > MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation. > > -- > > 'www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz' ( http://www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz)> > > > We make quality tunes > > Hi Ana, > > Go to this link below and try the step by step process to see if it > helps you any. > > ' http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/72308-auto-tuning-tcp-ip-receive-level.html'> ( http://tinyurl.com/24j8fq)> > Hope this helps, > Shawn > > > -- > brink > > *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.* > '_www.Vistax64.com_' ( http://www.vistax64.com/www.Vistax64.com)> Please post feedback to help others. > |
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Go to Windows Explorer, right click "Computer" and check the Rating: Windows
Experience Index. If this shows less than 4.00, then it's your computer that
is not up to running Vista with any kind of zest. I reckon all computers
need at least 4.5 to operate at an acceptable level with any version of
Vista and higher the version the higher the rating needs to be. I don't
think manufacturers should sell computers with less than 4.0.
Take a look here for more info.
http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/pages/458117.aspx
Ed
"Leanna" <Leanna[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] >I agree, it's rediculously slow. Now I'm in a predicament, i need to buy a > new laptop but everything out there has this trash preinstalled. How do i > get > anything nowdays that doesn't have Vista on it?? > > "brink" wrote: > >> >> AnaLoGMunKy;352657 Wrote: >> > hey peeps.. >> > >> > Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If >> > your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything. >> > >> > Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig >> > ram, >> > came from the shop with vista enabled etc. >> > >> > So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading, >> > why >> > would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along >> > with my >> > buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... >> > AND >> > BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*. >> > >> > Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed >> > or >> > uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos >> > Im not >> > interested. I want an answer. >> > >> > There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about >> > vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war- >> > AND >> > -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista. >> > >> > And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or >> > uninstalled >> > or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not >> > interested. >> > >> > I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for >> > software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job >> > buying >> > this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a >> > MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation. >> > -- >> > 'www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz' ( http://www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz)>> > >> > We make quality tunes >> >> Hi Ana, >> >> Go to this link below and try the step by step process to see if it >> helps you any. >> >> ' http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/72308-auto-tuning-tcp-ip-receive-level.html'>> ( http://tinyurl.com/24j8fq)>> >> Hope this helps, >> Shawn >> >> >> -- >> brink >> >> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.* >> '_www.Vistax64.com_' ( http://www.vistax64.com/www.Vistax64.com)>> Please post feedback to help others. >>
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Ed,
The Experience Index can be misleading. It is set according to the
lowest subscore not an average of the subscores. I would think that if you
have a score of 4 or higher in all but one subscore then the computer is
running well even though it may say your subscore is 2.4 or whatever.
Therefore, one should consider the overall preformance of the unit when
determining the Experience Index or at least that is what I think.
Larry
"Ed O'Brien" <edward.j.obrien[ at ]deletebtinternet.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > Go to Windows Explorer, right click "Computer" and check the Rating: > Windows Experience Index. If this shows less than 4.00, then it's your > computer that is not up to running Vista with any kind of zest. I reckon > all computers need at least 4.5 to operate at an acceptable level with any > version of Vista and higher the version the higher the rating needs to be. > I don't think manufacturers should sell computers with less than 4.0. > > Take a look here for more info. > http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/pages/458117.aspx> > Ed > > > > "Leanna" <Leanna[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:4E9C225A-F51E-49AA-9118-41F303A5473C[ at ]microsoft.com... >>I agree, it's rediculously slow. Now I'm in a predicament, i need to buy a >> new laptop but everything out there has this trash preinstalled. How do i >> get >> anything nowdays that doesn't have Vista on it?? >> >> "brink" wrote: >> >>> >>> AnaLoGMunKy;352657 Wrote: >>> > hey peeps.. >>> > >>> > Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you >>> > If >>> > your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything. >>> > >>> > Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig >>> > ram, >>> > came from the shop with vista enabled etc. >>> > >>> > So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading, >>> > why >>> > would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along >>> > with my >>> > buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... >>> > AND >>> > BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*. >>> > >>> > Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed >>> > or >>> > uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos >>> > Im not >>> > interested. I want an answer. >>> > >>> > There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about >>> > vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war- >>> > AND >>> > -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista. >>> > >>> > And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or >>> > uninstalled >>> > or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not >>> > interested. >>> > >>> > I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth >>> > for >>> > software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job >>> > buying >>> > this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a >>> > MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation. >>> > -- >>> > 'www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz' ( http://www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz)>>> > >>> > We make quality tunes >>> >>> Hi Ana, >>> >>> Go to this link below and try the step by step process to see if it >>> helps you any. >>> >>> ' http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/72308-auto-tuning-tcp-ip-receive-level.html'>>> ( http://tinyurl.com/24j8fq)>>> >>> Hope this helps, >>> Shawn >>> >>> >>> -- >>> brink >>> >>> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.* >>> '_www.Vistax64.com_' ( http://www.vistax64.com/www.Vistax64.com)>>> Please post feedback to help others. >>> >
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Sure, Larry.
If you are happy, it is not for me to contradict. A WEI of below say 3.0
however, will have at least one item seriously below par for Vista. It would
be wise to try and upgrade that item. In a laptop, unfortunately, that is
usually quite difficult. It's as I suggested. I don't think manufacturers
should sell any computer running Vista with a WEI under 4.0. Just my
opinion, of course.
Ed
"LarryM" <larrymoss[ at ]citcom.net> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > Ed, > The Experience Index can be misleading. It is set according to the > lowest subscore not an average of the subscores. I would think that if you > have a score of 4 or higher in all but one subscore then the computer is > running well even though it may say your subscore is 2.4 or whatever. > Therefore, one should consider the overall preformance of the unit when > determining the Experience Index or at least that is what I think. > Larry > "Ed O'Brien" <edward.j.obrien[ at ]deletebtinternet.com> wrote in message > news:uFk9mxjuHHA.4540[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Go to Windows Explorer, right click "Computer" and check the Rating: >> Windows Experience Index. If this shows less than 4.00, then it's your >> computer that is not up to running Vista with any kind of zest. I reckon >> all computers need at least 4.5 to operate at an acceptable level with >> any version of Vista and higher the version the higher the rating needs >> to be. I don't think manufacturers should sell computers with less than >> 4.0. >> >> Take a look here for more info. >> http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/pages/458117.aspx>> >> Ed >> >> >> >> "Leanna" <Leanna[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:4E9C225A-F51E-49AA-9118-41F303A5473C[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>I agree, it's rediculously slow. Now I'm in a predicament, i need to buy >>>a >>> new laptop but everything out there has this trash preinstalled. How do >>> i get >>> anything nowdays that doesn't have Vista on it?? >>> >>> "brink" wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> AnaLoGMunKy;352657 Wrote: >>>> > hey peeps.. >>>> > >>>> > Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you >>>> > If >>>> > your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything. >>>> > >>>> > Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig >>>> > ram, >>>> > came from the shop with vista enabled etc. >>>> > >>>> > So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in >>>> > upgrading, >>>> > why >>>> > would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along >>>> > with my >>>> > buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... >>>> > AND >>>> > BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*. >>>> > >>>> > Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs >>>> > installed >>>> > or >>>> > uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos >>>> > Im not >>>> > interested. I want an answer. >>>> > >>>> > There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy >>>> > about >>>> > vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war- >>>> > AND >>>> > -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista. >>>> > >>>> > And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or >>>> > uninstalled >>>> > or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not >>>> > interested. >>>> > >>>> > I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth >>>> > for >>>> > software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job >>>> > buying >>>> > this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a >>>> > MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation. >>>> > -- >>>> > 'www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz' ( http://www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz)>>>> > >>>> > We make quality tunes >>>> >>>> Hi Ana, >>>> >>>> Go to this link below and try the step by step process to see if it >>>> helps you any. >>>> >>>> ' http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/72308-auto-tuning-tcp-ip-receive-level.html'>>>> ( http://tinyurl.com/24j8fq)>>>> >>>> Hope this helps, >>>> Shawn >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> brink >>>> >>>> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.* >>>> '_www.Vistax64.com_' ( http://www.vistax64.com/www.Vistax64.com)>>>> Please post feedback to help others. >>>> >> >
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"Steve" <hde[ at ]wbn.inv> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > "Ed O'Brien" <edward.j.obrien[ at ]deletebtinternet.com> wrote:
>>If you are happy, it is not for me to contradict. A WEI of below say 3.0
>>however, will have at least one item seriously below par for Vista. It
>>would
>>be wise to try and upgrade that item. In a laptop, unfortunately, that is
>>usually quite difficult. It's as I suggested. I don't think manufacturers
>>should sell any computer running Vista with a WEI under 4.0. Just my
>>opinion, of course.
>
> Just received a new Dell Dimension E520 with 2G RAM and 256mb Geforce
> 7300LE. WEI is 3.2. Breakdown -
> 5.1 Processor
> 5.5 Memory
> 3.7 Graphics
> 3.2 Gaming graphics
> 5.3 HD
>
> Incidentally, right-clicking Computer doesn't get you WEI, at least
> not on this machine...
>
>
> --
>
> Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather
> straps.
>
> ...Emo Phillips
Right. A seriously weak video card. I have a similar setup on one PC with a
7300 GT. The WEI has to be interpreted relative to your needs. I don't need
high powered graphics, so the PC with a WEI of 4.3 for video with everything
else > 5.4 is just fine for me. For a serious gamer, no.
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Got a rating of 5 and it's still awfully slow!
"Steve" <hde[ at ]wbn.inv> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > "Ed O'Brien" <edward.j.obrien[ at ]deletebtinternet.com> wrote:
>>If you are happy, it is not for me to contradict. A WEI of below say 3.0
>>however, will have at least one item seriously below par for Vista. It
>>would
>>be wise to try and upgrade that item. In a laptop, unfortunately, that is
>>usually quite difficult. It's as I suggested. I don't think manufacturers
>>should sell any computer running Vista with a WEI under 4.0. Just my
>>opinion, of course.
>
> Just received a new Dell Dimension E520 with 2G RAM and 256mb Geforce
> 7300LE. WEI is 3.2. Breakdown -
> 5.1 Processor
> 5.5 Memory
> 3.7 Graphics
> 3.2 Gaming graphics
> 5.3 HD
>
> Incidentally, right-clicking Computer doesn't get you WEI, at least
> not on this machine...
>
>
> --
>
> Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather
> straps.
>
> ...Emo Phillips
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Processor 5.3
Memory 5.4
Graphics 5.9
Gaming graphics 5.9
Primary hard disk 5.8
Vista runs slow.
And how come my processor - Intel Core 2 Duo 6600 [ at ] 2.4Ghz is the lowest
item on the list?
Think this tosses the Experience Index out the window (every pun intended)
Romane
"Steve" <hde[ at ]wbn.inv> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > "Ed O'Brien" <edward.j.obrien[ at ]deletebtinternet.com> wrote:
>>If you are happy, it is not for me to contradict. A WEI of below say 3.0
>>however, will have at least one item seriously below par for Vista. It
>>would
>>be wise to try and upgrade that item. In a laptop, unfortunately, that is
>>usually quite difficult. It's as I suggested. I don't think manufacturers
>>should sell any computer running Vista with a WEI under 4.0. Just my
>>opinion, of course.
>
> Just received a new Dell Dimension E520 with 2G RAM and 256mb Geforce
> 7300LE. WEI is 3.2. Breakdown -
> 5.1 Processor
> 5.5 Memory
> 3.7 Graphics
> 3.2 Gaming graphics
> 5.3 HD
>
> Incidentally, right-clicking Computer doesn't get you WEI, at least
> not on this machine...
>
>
> --
>
> Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather
> straps.
>
> ...Emo Phillips
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"Ed O'Brien" <edward.j.obrien[ at ]deletebtinternet.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text] >If you are happy, it is not for me to contradict. A WEI of below say 3.0
>however, will have at least one item seriously below par for Vista. It would
>be wise to try and upgrade that item. In a laptop, unfortunately, that is
>usually quite difficult. It's as I suggested. I don't think manufacturers
>should sell any computer running Vista with a WEI under 4.0. Just my
>opinion, of course.
Just received a new Dell Dimension E520 with 2G RAM and 256mb Geforce
7300LE. WEI is 3.2. Breakdown -
5.1 Processor
5.5 Memory
3.7 Graphics
3.2 Gaming graphics
5.3 HD
Incidentally, right-clicking Computer doesn't get you WEI, at least
not on this machine...
--
Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps.
....Emo Phillips
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Sorry about that. Should have been a bit clearer. Right click "Computer"
select "Properties".
There is also some info on improving perfomance after clicking the "Windows
Experience Index" link then "Learn how to improve your computer's
performance" link
For what it's worth, I run Vista Home Premium:
Processor 5.5
Memory (RAM): 5.5
Graphics: 5.9
Gaming Graphics: (3D etc): 5.6
Primary Hard Disk (data transfer rate) 5.9
"Fishb8" <royandros[ at ]xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > Got a rating of 5 and it's still awfully slow!
> "Steve" <hde[ at ]wbn.inv> wrote in message
> news:t08a831f1t8hlu0j6lrv84s1k9qm3l4amb[ at ]4ax.com...
>> "Ed O'Brien" <edward.j.obrien[ at ]deletebtinternet.com> wrote:
>>>If you are happy, it is not for me to contradict. A WEI of below say 3.0
>>>however, will have at least one item seriously below par for Vista. It
>>>would
>>>be wise to try and upgrade that item. In a laptop, unfortunately, that is
>>>usually quite difficult. It's as I suggested. I don't think manufacturers
>>>should sell any computer running Vista with a WEI under 4.0. Just my
>>>opinion, of course.
>>
>> Just received a new Dell Dimension E520 with 2G RAM and 256mb Geforce
>> 7300LE. WEI is 3.2. Breakdown -
>> 5.1 Processor
>> 5.5 Memory
>> 3.7 Graphics
>> 3.2 Gaming graphics
>> 5.3 HD
>>
>> Incidentally, right-clicking Computer doesn't get you WEI, at least
>> not on this machine...
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather
>> straps.
>>
>> ...Emo Phillips
>
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1-) Control Panel --> Users -->Disable user account control
2-) System Properties --> Advanced --> Performance /Settings -->Adjust the
best performance
"AnaLoGMunKy" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > hey peeps..
>
> Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If
> your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything.
>
> Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig ram,
> came from the shop with vista enabled etc.
>
> So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading, why
> would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along with my
> buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... AND
> BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*.
>
> Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed or
> uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not
> interested. I want an answer.
>
> There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about
> vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war- AND
> -listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista.
>
> And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or uninstalled
> or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not interested.
>
> I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for
> software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job buying
> this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a
> MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation.
> --
> www.myspace.com/brainzinjarz
>
> We make quality tunes
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[Quoted Text] > Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If
> your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything.
Quite simply, Vista requires better hardware (more RAM, bigger
and faster hard disk, and faster CPU) than XP. That's all it is.
If you want to compare Vista to XP, then you have to get a better
machine. Sorry.
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"Mümin Aydogdu" <MminAydogdu[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > 1-) Control Panel --> Users -->Disable user account control
And what on earth makes you think that disabling UAC would have ANY effect
on computer speed whatsoever?
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Asking a question?
Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about,
your OS, Service Pack level
and the FULL contents of any error message(s)
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[Quoted Text] > And what on earth makes you think that disabling UAC would have ANY effect
> on computer speed whatsoever?
Don't waste your time, mate. They're just a couple of ignorant trolls.
SteveT
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