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A couple of questions to anyone in the know:
Is sideshow support built into windows mobile 6? (I am guessing that there are some hardware considerations?)
Are there any sideshow compatible mobile phones in the offing? (My MDA PRO contract finishes next month!)
Thanks in anticipation.
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"Ian" <dimension.three[ at ]virgin.net.donotspam> wrote in message news:90513AAA-95F4-4C2D-BBBB-4F466A51EFB5[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] >A couple of questions to anyone in the know: > > Is sideshow support built into windows mobile 6? (I am guessing that > there > are some hardware considerations?) > > Are there any sideshow compatible mobile phones in the offing? (My MDA > PRO > contract finishes next month!) > > Thanks in anticipation.
No, Sideshow is a Windows Vista feature for laptops in extremely low power state to access data from applications such as Outlook. A Windows Mobile 6 device is usually a Smartphone or PDA who do not power down to a lower state (most are on or off)
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Mike Brannigan
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Please disregard my last post.
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Mike Brannigan "Ian" <dimension.three[ at ]virgin.net.donotspam> wrote in message news:90513AAA-95F4-4C2D-BBBB-4F466A51EFB5[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] >A couple of questions to anyone in the know: > > Is sideshow support built into windows mobile 6? (I am guessing that > there > are some hardware considerations?) > > Are there any sideshow compatible mobile phones in the offing? (My MDA > PRO > contract finishes next month!) > > Thanks in anticipation.
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U¿ytkownik "Ian" <dimension.three[ at ]virgin.net.donotspam> napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci news:90513AAA-95F4-4C2D-BBBB-4F466A51EFB5[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] >A couple of questions to anyone in the know: > > Is sideshow support built into windows mobile 6? (I am guessing that > there > are some hardware considerations?) > > Are there any sideshow compatible mobile phones in the offing? (My MDA > PRO > contract finishes next month!) > > Thanks in anticipation.
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There are some new inmate phones coming out, the Ultimate models, that are supposed to support SideShow.
Chris
"Ian" <dimension.three[ at ]virgin.net.donotspam> wrote in message news:90513AAA-95F4-4C2D-BBBB-4F466A51EFB5[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] >A couple of questions to anyone in the know: > > Is sideshow support built into windows mobile 6? (I am guessing that > there > are some hardware considerations?) > > Are there any sideshow compatible mobile phones in the offing? (My MDA > PRO > contract finishes next month!) > > Thanks in anticipation.
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Keep an eye out for several products that will be including the RICAVISION Windows SideShow hardware with integral display and navigation/command buttons. It is .NET Micro Framework based and currently uses (but is not limited to) a Bluetooth Class 1 good for about 100 meters. Several major remote control vendors will be including it by mid to end of year.
"Ian" <dimension.three[ at ]virgin.net.donotspam> wrote in message news:90513AAA-95F4-4C2D-BBBB-4F466A51EFB5[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] >A couple of questions to anyone in the know: > > Is sideshow support built into windows mobile 6? (I am guessing that > there > are some hardware considerations?) > > Are there any sideshow compatible mobile phones in the offing? (My MDA > PRO > contract finishes next month!) > > Thanks in anticipation.
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"Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan[ at ]localhost> wrote in message news:056C06EA-E847-4F0E-AAF2-7B3215AD3E8F[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > "Ian" <dimension.three[ at ]virgin.net.donotspam> wrote in message > news:90513AAA-95F4-4C2D-BBBB-4F466A51EFB5[ at ]microsoft.com... >>A couple of questions to anyone in the know: >> >> Is sideshow support built into windows mobile 6? (I am guessing that >> there >> are some hardware considerations?) >> >> Are there any sideshow compatible mobile phones in the offing? (My MDA >> PRO >> contract finishes next month!) >> >> Thanks in anticipation. > > No, Sideshow is a Windows Vista feature for laptops in extremely low power > state to access data from applications such as Outlook. > A Windows Mobile 6 device is usually a Smartphone or PDA who do not power > down to a lower state (most are on or off) > > -- > > Mike Brannigan
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Ian,
Windows SideShow support is not built in to Windows Mobile 6, but we will be releasing an application which will enable your WM6 device to work as a Windows SideShow-enabled device. It's a software-only addition, assuming your device already has a Bluetooth radio in it. Stay tuned for more information; our current release target is the 3Q of this year.
Thanks, Dan
"Ian" <dimension.three[ at ]virgin.net.donotspam> wrote in message news:90513AAA-95F4-4C2D-BBBB-4F466A51EFB5[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] >A couple of questions to anyone in the know: > > Is sideshow support built into windows mobile 6? (I am guessing that > there > are some hardware considerations?) > > Are there any sideshow compatible mobile phones in the offing? (My MDA > PRO > contract finishes next month!) > > Thanks in anticipation.
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Dan,
Reading in to this a bit, our assumption is that this functionality would be for a local "Bluetooth type" connection only and not something to be used when on the road via a VPN connection over the data channel or something similar to Remote Record for Windows Media Center that leverages a Windows Messenger interface. In other words, it currently is not be possible for the Windows SideShow XML data streams and commands to be mapped over top of a "normal" Windows Messenger session, which then interfaces with the Windows SideShow Gadget code running on a PC. Is that a safe assumption to make? Thanks.
Regards,
=D-
Derek R. Flickinger Interactive Homes, Inc.
"Dan Polivy [MSFT]" <dpolivy[ at ]online.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:CA955F26-E7D5-4215-B66E-AF85DA3DE1D6[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Ian, > > Windows SideShow support is not built in to Windows Mobile 6, but we will > be releasing an application which will enable your WM6 device to work as a > Windows SideShow-enabled device. It's a software-only addition, assuming > your device already has a Bluetooth radio in it. Stay tuned for more > information; our current release target is the 3Q of this year. > > Thanks, > Dan > > "Ian" <dimension.three[ at ]virgin.net.donotspam> wrote in message > news:90513AAA-95F4-4C2D-BBBB-4F466A51EFB5[ at ]microsoft.com... >>A couple of questions to anyone in the know: >> >> Is sideshow support built into windows mobile 6? (I am guessing that >> there >> are some hardware considerations?) >> >> Are there any sideshow compatible mobile phones in the offing? (My MDA >> PRO >> contract finishes next month!) >> >> Thanks in anticipation. >
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Derek,
You are correct; we are currently supporting only local-area connectivity between the phone and the PC.
Dan
"Derek R. Flickinger" <DrFlick[ at ]ONLINE.InteractiveHomesInc.com> wrote in message news:8D3E1B3B-D937-46AE-8D2A-97C1D7A8B4E8[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Dan, > > Reading in to this a bit, our assumption is that this functionality would > be for a local "Bluetooth type" connection only and not something to be > used when on the road via a VPN connection over the data channel or > something similar to Remote Record for Windows Media Center that leverages > a Windows Messenger interface. In other words, it currently is not be > possible for the Windows SideShow XML data streams and commands to be > mapped over top of a "normal" Windows Messenger session, which then > interfaces with the Windows SideShow Gadget code running on a PC. Is that > a safe assumption to make? Thanks. > > Regards, > > =D- > > Derek R. Flickinger > Interactive Homes, Inc. > > "Dan Polivy [MSFT]" <dpolivy[ at ]online.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:CA955F26-E7D5-4215-B66E-AF85DA3DE1D6[ at ]microsoft.com... >> Ian, >> >> Windows SideShow support is not built in to Windows Mobile 6, but we will >> be releasing an application which will enable your WM6 device to work as >> a Windows SideShow-enabled device. It's a software-only addition, >> assuming your device already has a Bluetooth radio in it. Stay tuned for >> more information; our current release target is the 3Q of this year. >> >> Thanks, >> Dan >> >> "Ian" <dimension.three[ at ]virgin.net.donotspam> wrote in message >> news:90513AAA-95F4-4C2D-BBBB-4F466A51EFB5[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>A couple of questions to anyone in the know: >>> >>> Is sideshow support built into windows mobile 6? (I am guessing that >>> there >>> are some hardware considerations?) >>> >>> Are there any sideshow compatible mobile phones in the offing? (My MDA >>> PRO >>> contract finishes next month!) >>> >>> Thanks in anticipation. >> >
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Thanks.
What type of Bluetooth Profile is used by the device? Is it a standard one or something customized for Windows SideShow? Will the mobile phone client use the same one as other "standard" Bluetooth-based Windows SideShow devices?
=D-
"Dan Polivy [MSFT]" <dpolivy[ at ]online.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:88791633-1206-4555-8072-118EA036B738[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Derek, > > You are correct; we are currently supporting only local-area connectivity > between the phone and the PC. > > Dan > > "Derek R. Flickinger" <DrFlick[ at ]ONLINE.InteractiveHomesInc.com> wrote in > message news:8D3E1B3B-D937-46AE-8D2A-97C1D7A8B4E8[ at ]microsoft.com... >> Dan, >> >> Reading in to this a bit, our assumption is that this functionality would >> be for a local "Bluetooth type" connection only and not something to be >> used when on the road via a VPN connection over the data channel or >> something similar to Remote Record for Windows Media Center that >> leverages a Windows Messenger interface. In other words, it currently is >> not be possible for the Windows SideShow XML data streams and commands to >> be mapped over top of a "normal" Windows Messenger session, which then >> interfaces with the Windows SideShow Gadget code running on a PC. Is >> that a safe assumption to make? Thanks. >> >> Regards, >> >> =D- >> >> Derek R. Flickinger >> Interactive Homes, Inc. >> >> "Dan Polivy [MSFT]" <dpolivy[ at ]online.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:CA955F26-E7D5-4215-B66E-AF85DA3DE1D6[ at ]microsoft.com... >>> Ian, >>> >>> Windows SideShow support is not built in to Windows Mobile 6, but we >>> will be releasing an application which will enable your WM6 device to >>> work as a Windows SideShow-enabled device. It's a software-only >>> addition, assuming your device already has a Bluetooth radio in it. >>> Stay tuned for more information; our current release target is the 3Q of >>> this year. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Dan >>> >>> "Ian" <dimension.three[ at ]virgin.net.donotspam> wrote in message >>> news:90513AAA-95F4-4C2D-BBBB-4F466A51EFB5[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>A couple of questions to anyone in the know: >>>> >>>> Is sideshow support built into windows mobile 6? (I am guessing that >>>> there >>>> are some hardware considerations?) >>>> >>>> Are there any sideshow compatible mobile phones in the offing? (My MDA >>>> PRO >>>> contract finishes next month!) >>>> >>>> Thanks in anticipation. >>> >> >
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Hi Dan, great news. Will this software available to the WM5 too? I saw the video, where the program manager of SideShow team (sorry for my bad english, i don't understand his name :( ) used his pocket pc as sideshow device. Is this application (for WM5?) available for beta testing? Thanks, Feri
"Dan Polivy [MSFT]" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Ian, > > Windows SideShow support is not built in to Windows Mobile 6, but we will be > releasing an application which will enable your WM6 device to work as a > Windows SideShow-enabled device. It's a software-only addition, assuming > your device already has a Bluetooth radio in it. Stay tuned for more > information; our current release target is the 3Q of this year. > > Thanks, > Dan > > "Ian" <dimension.three[ at ]virgin.net.donotspam> wrote in message > news:90513AAA-95F4-4C2D-BBBB-4F466A51EFB5[ at ]microsoft.com... > >A couple of questions to anyone in the know: > > > > Is sideshow support built into windows mobile 6? (I am guessing that > > there > > are some hardware considerations?) > > > > Are there any sideshow compatible mobile phones in the offing? (My MDA > > PRO > > contract finishes next month!) > > > > Thanks in anticipation. >
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"Ian" <dimension.three[ at ]virgin.net.donotspam> wrote in message news:90513AAA-95F4-4C2D-BBBB-4F466A51EFB5[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] >A couple of questions to anyone in the know: > > Is sideshow support built into windows mobile 6? (I am guessing that > there > are some hardware considerations?) > > Are there any sideshow compatible mobile phones in the offing? (My MDA > PRO > contract finishes next month!) > > Thanks in anticipation.
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NOTE: Since the driver interface for SideShow compatible devices is fully documented there is nothing stopping you from creating, or hiring someone else to create, your own user mode driver on Vista that talks to your Pocket PC via any means you desire. You can implementi as much or little of the rendering application as you need. Obviously the advantage of using the MS solution is that you get the whole thing without needing to write any code, but if it doesn't support the features you want/need then that's not really worth so much.
-- Steve Maillet EmbeddedFusion smaillet[ at ]EmbeddedFusion.com "Derek R. Flickinger" <DrFlick[ at ]ONLINE.InteractiveHomesInc.com> wrote in message news:8D3E1B3B-D937-46AE-8D2A-97C1D7A8B4E8[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Dan, > > Reading in to this a bit, our assumption is that this functionality would > be for a local "Bluetooth type" connection only and not something to be > used when on the road via a VPN connection over the data channel or > something similar to Remote Record for Windows Media Center that leverages > a Windows Messenger interface. In other words, it currently is not be > possible for the Windows SideShow XML data streams and commands to be > mapped over top of a "normal" Windows Messenger session, which then > interfaces with the Windows SideShow Gadget code running on a PC. Is that > a safe assumption to make? Thanks. > > Regards, > > =D- > > Derek R. Flickinger > Interactive Homes, Inc. > > "Dan Polivy [MSFT]" <dpolivy[ at ]online.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:CA955F26-E7D5-4215-B66E-AF85DA3DE1D6[ at ]microsoft.com... >> Ian, >> >> Windows SideShow support is not built in to Windows Mobile 6, but we will >> be releasing an application which will enable your WM6 device to work as >> a Windows SideShow-enabled device. It's a software-only addition, >> assuming your device already has a Bluetooth radio in it. Stay tuned for >> more information; our current release target is the 3Q of this year. >> >> Thanks, >> Dan >> >> "Ian" <dimension.three[ at ]virgin.net.donotspam> wrote in message >> news:90513AAA-95F4-4C2D-BBBB-4F466A51EFB5[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>A couple of questions to anyone in the know: >>> >>> Is sideshow support built into windows mobile 6? (I am guessing that >>> there >>> are some hardware considerations?) >>> >>> Are there any sideshow compatible mobile phones in the offing? (My MDA >>> PRO >>> contract finishes next month!) >>> >>> Thanks in anticipation. >> >
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Thanks Steve. We also were curious what functionality Microsoft puts into the client, but then I guess we will have to wait and see..... We also see some value in being able to redirect the data and control streams across something like a Windows Live Messenger session, but that would be out of scope for most current requirements.
=D-
"Steve Maillet (eMVP)" <nospam[ at ]EntelechyConsulting.com> wrote in message news:ubpyDGpnHHA.1388[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > NOTE: Since the driver interface for SideShow compatible devices is fully > documented there is nothing stopping you from creating, or hiring someone > else to create, your own user mode driver on Vista that talks to your > Pocket PC via any means you desire. You can implementi as much or little > of the rendering application as you need. Obviously the advantage of using > the MS solution is that you get the whole thing without needing to write > any code, but if it doesn't support the features you want/need then that's > not really worth so much. > > -- > Steve Maillet > EmbeddedFusion > smaillet[ at ]EmbeddedFusion.com > "Derek R. Flickinger" <DrFlick[ at ]ONLINE.InteractiveHomesInc.com> wrote in > message news:8D3E1B3B-D937-46AE-8D2A-97C1D7A8B4E8[ at ]microsoft.com... >> Dan, >> >> Reading in to this a bit, our assumption is that this functionality would >> be for a local "Bluetooth type" connection only and not something to be >> used when on the road via a VPN connection over the data channel or >> something similar to Remote Record for Windows Media Center that >> leverages a Windows Messenger interface. In other words, it currently is >> not be possible for the Windows SideShow XML data streams and commands to >> be mapped over top of a "normal" Windows Messenger session, which then >> interfaces with the Windows SideShow Gadget code running on a PC. Is >> that a safe assumption to make? Thanks. >> >> Regards, >> >> =D- >> >> Derek R. Flickinger >> Interactive Homes, Inc. >> >> "Dan Polivy [MSFT]" <dpolivy[ at ]online.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:CA955F26-E7D5-4215-B66E-AF85DA3DE1D6[ at ]microsoft.com... >>> Ian, >>> >>> Windows SideShow support is not built in to Windows Mobile 6, but we >>> will be releasing an application which will enable your WM6 device to >>> work as a Windows SideShow-enabled device. It's a software-only >>> addition, assuming your device already has a Bluetooth radio in it. >>> Stay tuned for more information; our current release target is the 3Q of >>> this year. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Dan >>> >>> "Ian" <dimension.three[ at ]virgin.net.donotspam> wrote in message >>> news:90513AAA-95F4-4C2D-BBBB-4F466A51EFB5[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>A couple of questions to anyone in the know: >>>> >>>> Is sideshow support built into windows mobile 6? (I am guessing that >>>> there >>>> are some hardware considerations?) >>>> >>>> Are there any sideshow compatible mobile phones in the offing? (My MDA >>>> PRO >>>> contract finishes next month!) >>>> >>>> Thanks in anticipation. >>> >> > >
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If they implemented it right (e.g. how *I* would have architected it! ;-) ) then it would have re-usable layers that allowed you to get at the data in a consistent manner that is transport neutral. It would further allow for addition of new transports. But, alas I didn't design it so who knows what is possible. No docs are available at this point.
-- Steve Maillet EmbeddedFusion smaillet[ at ]EmbeddedFusion.com "Derek R. Flickinger" <DrFlick[ at ]ONLINE.InteractiveHomesInc.com> wrote in message news:803B01E0-EFB3-409B-97EA-0AE655F2340A[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Thanks Steve. We also were curious what functionality Microsoft puts into > the client, but then I guess we will have to wait and see..... We also > see some value in being able to redirect the data and control streams > across something like a Windows Live Messenger session, but that would be > out of scope for most current requirements. > > =D- > > "Steve Maillet (eMVP)" <nospam[ at ]EntelechyConsulting.com> wrote in message > news:ubpyDGpnHHA.1388[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> NOTE: Since the driver interface for SideShow compatible devices is fully >> documented there is nothing stopping you from creating, or hiring someone >> else to create, your own user mode driver on Vista that talks to your >> Pocket PC via any means you desire. You can implementi as much or little >> of the rendering application as you need. Obviously the advantage of >> using the MS solution is that you get the whole thing without needing to >> write any code, but if it doesn't support the features you want/need then >> that's not really worth so much. >> >> -- >> Steve Maillet >> EmbeddedFusion >> smaillet[ at ]EmbeddedFusion.com >> "Derek R. Flickinger" <DrFlick[ at ]ONLINE.InteractiveHomesInc.com> wrote in >> message news:8D3E1B3B-D937-46AE-8D2A-97C1D7A8B4E8[ at ]microsoft.com... >>> Dan, >>> >>> Reading in to this a bit, our assumption is that this functionality >>> would be for a local "Bluetooth type" connection only and not something >>> to be used when on the road via a VPN connection over the data channel >>> or something similar to Remote Record for Windows Media Center that >>> leverages a Windows Messenger interface. In other words, it currently >>> is not be possible for the Windows SideShow XML data streams and >>> commands to be mapped over top of a "normal" Windows Messenger session, >>> which then interfaces with the Windows SideShow Gadget code running on a >>> PC. Is that a safe assumption to make? Thanks. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> =D- >>> >>> Derek R. Flickinger >>> Interactive Homes, Inc. >>> >>> "Dan Polivy [MSFT]" <dpolivy[ at ]online.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:CA955F26-E7D5-4215-B66E-AF85DA3DE1D6[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>> Ian, >>>> >>>> Windows SideShow support is not built in to Windows Mobile 6, but we >>>> will be releasing an application which will enable your WM6 device to >>>> work as a Windows SideShow-enabled device. It's a software-only >>>> addition, assuming your device already has a Bluetooth radio in it. >>>> Stay tuned for more information; our current release target is the 3Q >>>> of this year. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Dan >>>> >>>> "Ian" <dimension.three[ at ]virgin.net.donotspam> wrote in message >>>> news:90513AAA-95F4-4C2D-BBBB-4F466A51EFB5[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>>A couple of questions to anyone in the know: >>>>> >>>>> Is sideshow support built into windows mobile 6? (I am guessing that >>>>> there >>>>> are some hardware considerations?) >>>>> >>>>> Are there any sideshow compatible mobile phones in the offing? (My >>>>> MDA PRO >>>>> contract finishes next month!) >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in anticipation. >>>> >>> >> >> >
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Feri,
That was probably me you saw in the video :) Yes, we do plan to support WM5 as well. Unfortunately we do not have a public beta available yet.
Dan
"Feri Beke" <Feri Beke[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:98D8294D-9104-466A-A990-A97E0A1DA3B4[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Hi Dan, great news. Will this software available to the WM5 too? > I saw the video, where the program manager of SideShow team (sorry for my > bad english, i don't understand his name :( ) used his pocket pc as > sideshow > device. > Is this application (for WM5?) available for beta testing? > Thanks, > Feri > > "Dan Polivy [MSFT]" wrote: > >> Ian, >> >> Windows SideShow support is not built in to Windows Mobile 6, but we will >> be >> releasing an application which will enable your WM6 device to work as a >> Windows SideShow-enabled device. It's a software-only addition, assuming >> your device already has a Bluetooth radio in it. Stay tuned for more >> information; our current release target is the 3Q of this year. >> >> Thanks, >> Dan >> >> "Ian" <dimension.three[ at ]virgin.net.donotspam> wrote in message >> news:90513AAA-95F4-4C2D-BBBB-4F466A51EFB5[ at ]microsoft.com... >> >A couple of questions to anyone in the know: >> > >> > Is sideshow support built into windows mobile 6? (I am guessing that >> > there >> > are some hardware considerations?) >> > >> > Are there any sideshow compatible mobile phones in the offing? (My MDA >> > PRO >> > contract finishes next month!) >> > >> > Thanks in anticipation. >>
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Any chance this will be available for WM5?
"Dan Polivy [MSFT]" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Ian, > > Windows SideShow support is not built in to Windows Mobile 6, but we will be > releasing an application which will enable your WM6 device to work as a > Windows SideShow-enabled device. It's a software-only addition, assuming > your device already has a Bluetooth radio in it. Stay tuned for more > information; our current release target is the 3Q of this year. > > Thanks, > Dan > > "Ian" <dimension.three[ at ]virgin.net.donotspam> wrote in message > news:90513AAA-95F4-4C2D-BBBB-4F466A51EFB5[ at ]microsoft.com... > >A couple of questions to anyone in the know: > > > > Is sideshow support built into windows mobile 6? (I am guessing that > > there > > are some hardware considerations?) > > > > Are there any sideshow compatible mobile phones in the offing? (My MDA > > PRO > > contract finishes next month!) > > > > Thanks in anticipation. >
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