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I am looking to figure out how to disable this prompt for my servers after
having installed patches. My servers are in a seperate OU with different
wsus policies. I have the policies set to automatically download but
manually install. I want to prevent the icon in the system tray from
constantly stating the machine needs to be restarted for patch updates to
complete.
Thanks
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"JT" <no[ at ]mail.here> wrote in news:e5tK#a1rHHA.4100[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:
[Quoted Text] > I am looking to figure out how to disable this prompt for my servers
> after having installed patches. My servers are in a seperate OU with
> different wsus policies. I have the policies set to automatically
> download but manually install. I want to prevent the icon in the
> system tray from constantly stating the machine needs to be restarted
> for patch updates to complete.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
Until the computer is restarted, the patch process is not complete!!
Best case scenario, the entire update is staged and will wait for the
reboot to fully install ---> you are not patched.
Worst case scenario, the update process replaced all the modules it could
get a lock on and is waiting on the reboot to replace the rest ---> you
have an unstable system.
Servers should only be updated when you have the time to restart them.
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At that point, the updates *have* been installed, but need a reboot. I
don't believe there's a way to turn off the warning then.
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"JT" <no[ at ]mail.here> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] >I am looking to figure out how to disable this prompt for my servers after
>having installed patches. My servers are in a seperate OU with different
>wsus policies. I have the policies set to automatically download but
>manually install. I want to prevent the icon in the system tray from
>constantly stating the machine needs to be restarted for patch updates to
>complete.
>
> Thanks
>
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JT wrote:
[Quoted Text] > I am looking to figure out how to disable this prompt for my servers after
> having installed patches. My servers are in a seperate OU with different
> wsus policies. I have the policies set to automatically download but
> manually install. I want to prevent the icon in the system tray from
> constantly stating the machine needs to be restarted for patch updates to
> complete.
... so reboot the machine!
Particularly in the case of servers, you should never install a patch without
rebooting the machine immediately afterwards. (Unless the patch doesn't require
a reboot, of course.)
Harry.
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:06:44 -0400, "JT" <no[ at ]mail.here> wrote:
That's the last thing you want. I have had servers that have had services fail
for lack of the reboot. It worked OK for a few days then a service recycled but
was unable restart correctly. This seems to happed about 5 minutes after
everyone has gone home and you have hours of down time until a reboot is done.
[Quoted Text] >I am looking to figure out how to disable this prompt for my servers after
>having installed patches. My servers are in a seperate OU with different
>wsus policies. I have the policies set to automatically download but
>manually install. I want to prevent the icon in the system tray from
>constantly stating the machine needs to be restarted for patch updates to
>complete.
>
>Thanks
>
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Dave Mills
There are 10 type of people, those that understand binary and those that don't.
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There is an item in Group Policy relating to automatic restarts. Cannot
remember the name right now, but is near the option to set where the WSUS
server is...
Josh
"DaveMills" <DaveMills[ at ]newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:06:44 -0400, "JT" <no[ at ]mail.here> wrote:
>
> That's the last thing you want. I have had servers that have had services
> fail
> for lack of the reboot. It worked OK for a few days then a service
> recycled but
> was unable restart correctly. This seems to happed about 5 minutes after
> everyone has gone home and you have hours of down time until a reboot is
> done.
>
>
>>I am looking to figure out how to disable this prompt for my servers after
>>having installed patches. My servers are in a seperate OU with different
>>wsus policies. I have the policies set to automatically download but
>>manually install. I want to prevent the icon in the system tray from
>>constantly stating the machine needs to be restarted for patch updates to
>>complete.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
> --
> Dave Mills
> There are 10 type of people, those that understand binary and those that
> don't.
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Brambb wrote:
[Quoted Text] > There are only options to delay the reboot/warning and not turn the
> warning completly off, Im workin for a school and its pretty anoying
> that the warning cant be turn off at all. All computers will shutdown
> every day and start up again the next day so we dont need that warnin
> at all :(.
The machines aren't safe to use if they have been patched and not rebooted. So,
yes, you *do* need the warning, you're just choosing to ignore that need.
Why don't you postpone the shutdown of the machines for an hour or so and
schedule the install for that period? Or if the machines are manually shut
down, don't schedule the install at all, just use the "Install and Shutdown" option.
Harry.
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"Brambb" <Brambb.2sxk7k[ at ]DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] >
> There are only options to delay the reboot/warning and not turn the
> warning completly off,
True statement. Without rebooting, there's no point in performing the
installation.
> Im workin for a school and its pretty anoying
> that the warning cant be turn off at all. All computers will shutdown
> every day and start up again the next day so we dont need that warnin
> at all :(. I think a option like this would be appreciated.
Then, here's two options to consider:
[a] Install AT shutdown.
[b] Schedule the installation overnight, knowing that the machines will be
powered off (or, radical though it may sound, you *could* leave them powered
on for one night a month to faciliate updating). Ensure the option to
install updates at powerON is enabled (it's a default option) if a scheduled
installation is missed, and let the updates install in the morning when the
machines are powered on.
Shucks, you could even come into work a half hour early and turn the
machines on yourself so that they'll all be updated before the students need
to use them. ;-)
--
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCTS, MCP
Independent WSUS Evangelist
MVP-Software Distribution (2005-2007)
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=30E00990-8F1D-4774-BD62-D095EB07B36E
Everything you need for WSUS is at
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/technologies/featured/wsus/default.mspx
And, almost everything else is at
http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com
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Lawrence Garvin \(MVP\);2971047 Wrote:
> "Brambb" <Brambb.2sxk7k[ at ]DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
[Quoted Text] > news:Brambb.2sxk7k[ at ]DoNotSpam.com... > > > > There are only options to delay the reboot/warning and not turn the > > warning completly off, > > True statement. Without rebooting, there's no point in performing the > installation. > > > Im workin for a school and its pretty anoying > > that the warning cant be turn off at all. All computers will
> shutdown > > every day and start up again the next day so we dont need that
> warnin > > at all :(. I think a option like this would be appreciated. > > Then, here's two options to consider: > > [a] Install AT shutdown. > > [b] Schedule the installation overnight, knowing that the machines will
> be > powered off (or, radical though it may sound, you *could* leave them
> powered > on for one night a month to faciliate updating). Ensure the option to > install updates at powerON is enabled (it's a default option) if a
> scheduled > installation is missed, and let the updates install in the morning when
> the > machines are powered on. > > Shucks, you could even come into work a half hour early and turn the > machines on yourself so that they'll all be updated before the students
> need > to use them. ;-) > > -- > Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCTS, MCP > Independent WSUS Evangelist > MVP-Software Distribution (2005-2007) > https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=30E00990-8F1D-4774-BD62-D095EB07B36E> > Everything you need for WSUS is at > http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/technologies/featured/wsus/default.mspx> > And, almost everything else is at > http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com> .....
Those two options should work indeed thanks, but I cant seem to find
the option to force the Install Updates at Shutdown in the Policy. I
can only find settings where you can have a warning to choose wether or
not to install during shutdown. So during useage you still get warning
to reboot.
So basicly im looking for a option to Download Updates Autmaticly (It
does that now) and Update them at shutdown. (Not to get the warning to
choose for that at shutdown, I need it forced.. Normally they just get
powered off with the on/off button and Windows shutdowns automaticly.)
Where should I look for this? Or aint this possible?
Thanks,
-Bram
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"Brambb" <Brambb.2tlsfh[ at ]DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > Those two options should work indeed thanks, but I cant seem to find
> the option to force the Install Updates at Shutdown in the Policy.
They're actually in the SYSTEM.ADM template of Windows XP and Windows Server
2003, so if you're configuring policy from a Windows 2000 system you won't
be able to see them initially. In fact, the feature isn't even available on
Windows 2000 systems, so keep that in mind if your students' systems are
still running Win2K.
When you open the policy edtor, they should be the first two listed:
"Do not display 'Install Updates and Shut Down' option in Shut Down
Windows dialog box"
and
"Do not adjust default option to 'Install Updates and Shut Down' in Shut
Down Windows dialog box"
By default they're both "Not Configured", which is supposed to automatically
enable the feature, but I've not seen this happen consistently. To be sure,
set both policies to DISABLED. The first policy will ensure the option is in
the list; the second policy ensure's that it is always displayed as the
default shutdown option when there are updates to be installed.
> I can only find settings where you can have a warning to choose wether or
> not to install during shutdown. So during useage you still get warning
> to reboot.
I think you'll want to re-read the functionality. You're looking at the
right thing. :-)
> Normally they just get
> powered off with the on/off button and Windows shutdowns automaticly.)
YIKES!!!! *BAD* *BAD* *BAD* thing to be teaching students to do!
Teach them to use the START menu, or Ctrl-Alt-Delete, and select SHUTDOWN
from the menu!
Not all systems support safe Windows shutdown with the power button, and
learning that bad habit could cost somebody their profile, if not their
entire system if they pop the power off to a system that doesn't shutdown
correctly.
--
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCTS, MCP
Independent WSUS Evangelist
MVP-Software Distribution (2005-2007)
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=30E00990-8F1D-4774-BD62-D095EB07B36E
Everything you need for WSUS is at
http://www.microsoft.com/wsus
And, almost everything else is at
http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com
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Lawrence Garvin \(MVP\);3003358 Wrote:
> "Brambb" <Brambb.2tlsfh[ at ]DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
[Quoted Text] > news:Brambb.2tlsfh[ at ]DoNotSpam.com...
>
> > Those two options should work indeed thanks, but I cant seem to find
> > the option to force the Install Updates at Shutdown in the Policy.
>
> They're actually in the SYSTEM.ADM template of Windows XP and Windows
> Server
> 2003, so if you're configuring policy from a Windows 2000 system you
> won't
> be able to see them initially. In fact, the feature isn't even
> available on
> Windows 2000 systems, so keep that in mind if your students' systems
> are
> still running Win2K.
>
> When you open the policy edtor, they should be the first two listed:
> "Do not display 'Install Updates and Shut Down' option in Shut Down
> Windows dialog box"
>
> and
>
> "Do not adjust default option to 'Install Updates and Shut Down' in
> Shut
> Down Windows dialog box"
>
> By default they're both "Not Configured", which is supposed to
> automatically
> enable the feature, but I've not seen this happen consistently. To be
> sure,
> set both policies to DISABLED. The first policy will ensure the option
> is in
> the list; the second policy ensure's that it is always displayed as
> the
> default shutdown option when there are updates to be installed.
>
Ok, so I was at the right place, might be a goofy translation into
Dutch as you see often, im gonna try it out. Thanks!
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