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WSUS3 - The Status Summary reports that are emailed to me from WSUS time is
wrong. It would seem that it is 5 hours ahead. I have checked the wsus server
and it has the correct time, time zone, daylight savings. Any ideas?
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The reports use UTC time, which may not be the same time zone of your local
server time. Is that what makes you feel "ahead"?
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"The King" <The King[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > WSUS3 - The Status Summary reports that are emailed to me from WSUS time
> is
> wrong. It would seem that it is 5 hours ahead. I have checked the wsus
> server
> and it has the correct time, time zone, daylight savings. Any ideas?
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Our organization is completely in ONE time zone. Central time GMT-6. At
7:30am this morning I received an email from WSUS with a summary report time
stamped June 13 12:30pm. I can’t find any reason for the time difference. Any
help would be great.
"Fei Cao (MSFT)" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > The reports use UTC time, which may not be the same time zone of your local > server time. Is that what makes you feel "ahead"? > > -- > Fei Cao > Microsoft, WSUS > > This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. > Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at > http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm> > "The King" <The King[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:1BBDC286-97FC-4E3D-9505-D0CE327F0D7D[ at ]microsoft.com... > > WSUS3 - The Status Summary reports that are emailed to me from WSUS time > > is > > wrong. It would seem that it is 5 hours ahead. I have checked the wsus > > server > > and it has the correct time, time zone, daylight savings. Any ideas? > > > |
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Are you familiar with UTC time? It's the same as GMT.
The time is showing in the reports as UTC, which is 6 hours ahead of your
GMT-6 timezone.
This is done because an admin may have servers in multiple time zones, and
reports may be mailed to multiple admins in different timezones. UTC is a
consistent zone so you can compare one time against another.
Unfortunately there is no configuration option to set which timezone to use
in the reports when your situation is less complex.
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Matthew Wetmore
Developer, WSUS (Windows Server Update Services)
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"The King" <TheKing[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8ED0F5D1-F74C-40C7-BB7C-A5FA98766B33[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Our organization is completely in ONE time zone. Central time GMT-6. At > 7:30am this morning I received an email from WSUS with a summary report > time > stamped June 13 12:30pm. I can't find any reason for the time difference. > Any > help would be great. > > "Fei Cao (MSFT)" wrote: > >> The reports use UTC time, which may not be the same time zone of your >> local >> server time. Is that what makes you feel "ahead"? >> >> -- >> Fei Cao >> Microsoft, WSUS >> >> This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no >> rights. >> Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at >> http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm>> >> "The King" <The King[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:1BBDC286-97FC-4E3D-9505-D0CE327F0D7D[ at ]microsoft.com... >> > WSUS3 - The Status Summary reports that are emailed to me from WSUS >> > time >> > is >> > wrong. It would seem that it is 5 hours ahead. I have checked the wsus >> > server >> > and it has the correct time, time zone, daylight savings. Any ideas? >> >> >>
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The King wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Our organization is completely in ONE time zone. Central time GMT-6. At
> 7:30am this morning I received an email from WSUS with a summary report time
> stamped June 13 12:30pm. I can’t find any reason for the time difference. Any
> help would be great.
According to www.time.gov, Central time is currently UTC minus 5.
So 12:30pm UTC is 7:30am central, and you're seeing exactly the expected behaviour.
Harry.
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I am the admin, and no all servers are in ONE time zone GMT-6. Were do I set
the UTC time to match my time zone.
"Matthew Wetmore (MSFT)" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Are you familiar with UTC time? It's the same as GMT. > The time is showing in the reports as UTC, which is 6 hours ahead of your > GMT-6 timezone. > > This is done because an admin may have servers in multiple time zones, and > reports may be mailed to multiple admins in different timezones. UTC is a > consistent zone so you can compare one time against another. > > Unfortunately there is no configuration option to set which timezone to use > in the reports when your situation is less complex. > > -- > Matthew Wetmore > Developer, WSUS (Windows Server Update Services) > > This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. > Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at > http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm> > "The King" <TheKing[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:8ED0F5D1-F74C-40C7-BB7C-A5FA98766B33[ at ]microsoft.com... > > Our organization is completely in ONE time zone. Central time GMT-6. At > > 7:30am this morning I received an email from WSUS with a summary report > > time > > stamped June 13 12:30pm. I can't find any reason for the time difference. > > Any > > help would be great. > > > > "Fei Cao (MSFT)" wrote: > > > >> The reports use UTC time, which may not be the same time zone of your > >> local > >> server time. Is that what makes you feel "ahead"? > >> > >> -- > >> Fei Cao > >> Microsoft, WSUS > >> > >> This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no > >> rights. > >> Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at > >> http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm> >> > >> "The King" <The King[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:1BBDC286-97FC-4E3D-9505-D0CE327F0D7D[ at ]microsoft.com... > >> > WSUS3 - The Status Summary reports that are emailed to me from WSUS > >> > time > >> > is > >> > wrong. It would seem that it is 5 hours ahead. I have checked the wsus > >> > server > >> > and it has the correct time, time zone, daylight savings. Any ideas? > >> > >> > >> > > > |
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So is there a way to make it state the time of the email as apposed to the
UTC time.
"Harry Johnston" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > The King wrote:
>
> > Our organization is completely in ONE time zone. Central time GMT-6. At
> > 7:30am this morning I received an email from WSUS with a summary report time
> > stamped June 13 12:30pm. I can’t find any reason for the time difference. Any
> > help would be great.
>
> According to www.time.gov, Central time is currently UTC minus 5.
>
> So 12:30pm UTC is 7:30am central, and you're seeing exactly the expected behaviour.
>
> Harry.
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If you notice next to the Time it says GMT (Greenwich Mean Time). This is
the time that is stored in the database, so my guess is you are on Eastern
Standard time, which is -5 from GMT.
Since we do not know where (time zone wise) the e-mailed reports are going
to we decided to only report the GMT time according to the specified time
that the Admin wanted the reports sent per the Server local time. I hope
that makes sense.
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Cecil [MSFT]
Deployment, WSUS
Microsoft
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"The King" <The King[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > WSUS3 - The Status Summary reports that are emailed to me from WSUS time
> is
> wrong. It would seem that it is 5 hours ahead. I have checked the wsus
> server
> and it has the correct time, time zone, daylight savings. Any ideas?
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No, we are central standard time not eastern so that doesn't make sense
either. Also the WSUS server, the exchange servers (both front end and back
end), The ISA server, and the domain controller all are in the same time zone
(central). If the report can not correctly place the time of the report can
the time be removed from the report.
"Cecils(MSFT)" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > If you notice next to the Time it says GMT (Greenwich Mean Time). This is > the time that is stored in the database, so my guess is you are on Eastern > Standard time, which is -5 from GMT. > > Since we do not know where (time zone wise) the e-mailed reports are going > to we decided to only report the GMT time according to the specified time > that the Admin wanted the reports sent per the Server local time. I hope > that makes sense. > > -- > Cecil [MSFT] > Deployment, WSUS > Microsoft > > This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. > Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at > http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm> > "The King" <The King[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:1BBDC286-97FC-4E3D-9505-D0CE327F0D7D[ at ]microsoft.com... > > WSUS3 - The Status Summary reports that are emailed to me from WSUS time > > is > > wrong. It would seem that it is 5 hours ahead. I have checked the wsus > > server > > and it has the correct time, time zone, daylight savings. Any ideas? > > |
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The King wrote:
[Quoted Text] > So is there a way to make it state the time of the email as apposed to the
> UTC time.
I doubt it. What's the big deal?
Harry.
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The King wrote:
[Quoted Text] > I am the admin, and no all servers are in ONE time zone GMT-6. Were do I set
> the UTC time to match my time zone.
Are you sure you're in GMT-6 and not GMT-5? You can check the current GMT time
here to compare with the local time:
<http://www.time.gov/timezone.cgi?UTC/s/0/java>
... of course, that's a side issue.
Lying to your servers about what the time is would be a bad idea. If you change
only some machines, Kerberos and any other communications protocol that uses
timestamps will fail. If you change all your machines, you'll have trouble
communicating with the outside world - at the very least, timestamps on things
like email, files on removable media and so on would all go wrong.
Harry.
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"The King" <TheKing[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BB520319-51E8-475E-859B-FA13CE5EA14A[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > No, we are central standard time not eastern so that doesn't make sense
> either.
Central Time is GMT-5 when DST is in effect. Otherwise it's GMT-6.
States in CT that do not observe daylight saving time would remain at GMT-6.
Except for a very miniscule portion of Indiana, there aren't any states in
CT that do not observe DST.
From http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=104
Houston, Texas, United States
Current time Wednesday, June 13, 2007 at 8:12:18 PM CDT
UTC/GMT Offset Standard time zone: UTC/GMT -6 hours
Daylight saving time: +1 hour
Current time zone offset: UTC/GMT -5 hours
Time zone abbreviation: CDT - Central Daylight Time
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Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCTS, MCP
Independent WSUS Evangelist
MVP-Software Distribution (2005-2007)
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=30E00990-8F1D-4774-BD62-D095EB07B36E
Everything you need for WSUS is at
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/technologies/featured/wsus/default.mspx
And, almost everything else is at
http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com
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You need to look at 'The Big Picture'. YOU are only in a single time
zone. Large orgs, with server around the world deal with multiple TZ.
Yhere is no way for WSUS to know in which TZ the recipient of the e-mails
are, and for comparison purpose, it is easier to deal with UTC. Heck,
even in a single TZ, there are execptions. The CT zone does not apply DST
everywhere, so using UTC avoids the confusion as to why updates are off
by an hour.
=?Utf-8?B?VGhlIEtpbmc=?= <TheKing[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
news:BB520319-51E8-475E-859B-FA13CE5EA14A[ at ]microsoft.com:
[Quoted Text] > No, we are central standard time not eastern so that doesn't make > sense either. Also the WSUS server, the exchange servers (both front > end and back end), The ISA server, and the domain controller all are > in the same time zone (central). If the report can not correctly place > the time of the report can the time be removed from the report. > > "Cecils(MSFT)" wrote: > >> If you notice next to the Time it says GMT (Greenwich Mean Time). >> This is the time that is stored in the database, so my guess is you >> are on Eastern Standard time, which is -5 from GMT. >> >> Since we do not know where (time zone wise) the e-mailed reports are >> going to we decided to only report the GMT time according to the >> specified time that the Admin wanted the reports sent per the Server >> local time. I hope that makes sense. >> >> -- >> Cecil [MSFT] >> Deployment, WSUS >> Microsoft >> >> This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no >> rights. Use of included script samples are subject to the terms >> specified at http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm>> >> "The King" <The King[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:1BBDC286-97FC-4E3D-9505-D0CE327F0D7D[ at ]microsoft.com... >> > WSUS3 - The Status Summary reports that are emailed to me from WSUS >> > time is >> > wrong. It would seem that it is 5 hours ahead. I have checked the >> > wsus server >> > and it has the correct time, time zone, daylight savings. Any >> > ideas? >> >>
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Thanks, that makes sense to me. So that explains the 5 or 6 hour difference.
"Lawrence Garvin (MVP)" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > "The King" <TheKing[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:BB520319-51E8-475E-859B-FA13CE5EA14A[ at ]microsoft.com... > > > No, we are central standard time not eastern so that doesn't make sense > > either. > > Central Time is GMT-5 when DST is in effect. Otherwise it's GMT-6. > > States in CT that do not observe daylight saving time would remain at GMT-6. > > Except for a very miniscule portion of Indiana, there aren't any states in > CT that do not observe DST. > > From http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=104> > Houston, Texas, United States > Current time Wednesday, June 13, 2007 at 8:12:18 PM CDT > UTC/GMT Offset Standard time zone: UTC/GMT -6 hours > Daylight saving time: +1 hour > Current time zone offset: UTC/GMT -5 hours > Time zone abbreviation: CDT - Central Daylight Time > > > > -- > Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCTS, MCP > Independent WSUS Evangelist > MVP-Software Distribution (2005-2007) > https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=30E00990-8F1D-4774-BD62-D095EB07B36E> > Everything you need for WSUS is at > http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/technologies/featured/wsus/default.mspx> > And, almost everything else is at > http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com> ..... > > > |
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"Lawrence Garvin (MVP)" wrote:
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Well it's one way but not the only *correct* way. Another option would be to
give the Admin of the server the abillity to choose. UTC or his current time.
Or to have it removed completely. Or at least put UTC after the (possible)
incorrect time instead of (GMT).
I see several ways in which there could be good solutions for global
companies as well as small companies.
Microsoft usually offers 20 different ways to do the same thing so thought
there might be a way to change this also.
Thanks for the help.
[Quoted Text] > > so using UTC avoids the confusion as to why updates are off by an hour. > > But that's not at all intended to detract from your basic point which is > right on the money. > > UTC is the *correct* way to report server status via email notifications. > > -- > Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCTS, MCP > Independent WSUS Evangelist > MVP-Software Distribution (2005-2007) > https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=30E00990-8F1D-4774-BD62-D095EB07B36E> > > |
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[Quoted Text] >> Unfortunately there is no configuration option to set which timezone to
>> use
>> in the reports when your situation is less complex.
--
Matthew Wetmore
Developer, WSUS (Windows Server Update Services)
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"The King" <TheKing[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I am the admin, and no all servers are in ONE time zone GMT-6. Were do I
>set
> the UTC time to match my time zone.
>
> "Matthew Wetmore (MSFT)" wrote:
>
>> Are you familiar with UTC time? It's the same as GMT.
>> The time is showing in the reports as UTC, which is 6 hours ahead of your
>> GMT-6 timezone.
>>
>> This is done because an admin may have servers in multiple time zones,
>> and
>> reports may be mailed to multiple admins in different timezones. UTC is
>> a
>> consistent zone so you can compare one time against another.
>>
>> Unfortunately there is no configuration option to set which timezone to
>> use
>> in the reports when your situation is less complex.
>>
>> --
>> Matthew Wetmore
>> Developer, WSUS (Windows Server Update Services)
>>
>> This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>> Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
>> http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
>>
>> "The King" <TheKing[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:8ED0F5D1-F74C-40C7-BB7C-A5FA98766B33[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> > Our organization is completely in ONE time zone. Central time GMT-6. At
>> > 7:30am this morning I received an email from WSUS with a summary report
>> > time
>> > stamped June 13 12:30pm. I can't find any reason for the time
>> > difference.
>> > Any
>> > help would be great.
>> >
>> > "Fei Cao (MSFT)" wrote:
>> >
>> >> The reports use UTC time, which may not be the same time zone of your
>> >> local
>> >> server time. Is that what makes you feel "ahead"?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Fei Cao
>> >> Microsoft, WSUS
>> >>
>> >> This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no
>> >> rights.
>> >> Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
>> >>
>> >> "The King" <The King[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1BBDC286-97FC-4E3D-9505-D0CE327F0D7D[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> >> > WSUS3 - The Status Summary reports that are emailed to me from WSUS
>> >> > time
>> >> > is
>> >> > wrong. It would seem that it is 5 hours ahead. I have checked the
>> >> > wsus
>> >> > server
>> >> > and it has the correct time, time zone, daylight savings. Any ideas?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
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The King wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Or at least put UTC after the (possible)
> incorrect time instead of (GMT).
Granted there is a distinction between GMT and UTC, it's pretty much just a
technicality. GMT is widely used to mean UTC.
Harry.
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