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WSUS and windows genuine advantage
Pat 6/28/2007 4:02:06 PM
I am using WSUS 3.0 to push updates and i have come into a problem that I
could use some help with.

Some of the computers on the network are restricted from accessing the
Internet
so when I deploy updates that need to use windows genuine advantage to
validate
the are not able to get out.

Is there some way to get around this?

Thank you for your help
Re: WSUS and windows genuine advantage
"Lawrence Garvin \(MVP\)" <onsitech[ at ]community.nospam> 6/29/2007 3:44:22 AM
"Pat" <Pat[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F5306FB2-C2D8-4C4E-A428-82CD44B0092C[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
>I am using WSUS 3.0 to push updates and i have come into a problem that I
> could use some help with.
>
> Some of the computers on the network are restricted from accessing the
> Internet
> so when I deploy updates that need to use windows genuine advantage to
> validate
> the are not able to get out.
>
> Is there some way to get around this?

To my knowledge, there is *nothing* deployable via WSUS that requires WGA to
be installed or operational.

However, installation of several updates via WU/MU requires WGA to be
installed, and operational.

The issue may also be triggered, possibly, if you are installing those
updates *interactively* rather than as an unattended scheduled event.

--
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCTS, MCP
Independent WSUS Evangelist
MVP-Software Distribution (2005-2007)
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=30E00990-8F1D-4774-BD62-D095EB07B36E

Everything you need for WSUS is at
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/technologies/featured/wsus/default.mspx

And, almost everything else is at
http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com
.....


Re: WSUS and windows genuine advantage
Pat 6/29/2007 4:12:00 AM
Thanks for getting back to me so fast.
The problem I"m having is I approved windows media 11 and when the user logs
on to the computer that is restricted from connecting to the internet the
windows validation comes up and can't validate.
the user cancles and the message comes back when they log on again.

Thanks

"Lawrence Garvin (MVP)" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> "Pat" <Pat[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F5306FB2-C2D8-4C4E-A428-82CD44B0092C[ at ]microsoft.com...
> >I am using WSUS 3.0 to push updates and i have come into a problem that I
> > could use some help with.
> >
> > Some of the computers on the network are restricted from accessing the
> > Internet
> > so when I deploy updates that need to use windows genuine advantage to
> > validate
> > the are not able to get out.
> >
> > Is there some way to get around this?
>
> To my knowledge, there is *nothing* deployable via WSUS that requires WGA to
> be installed or operational.
>
> However, installation of several updates via WU/MU requires WGA to be
> installed, and operational.
>
> The issue may also be triggered, possibly, if you are installing those
> updates *interactively* rather than as an unattended scheduled event.
>
> --
> Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCTS, MCP
> Independent WSUS Evangelist
> MVP-Software Distribution (2005-2007)
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=30E00990-8F1D-4774-BD62-D095EB07B36E
>
> Everything you need for WSUS is at
> http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/technologies/featured/wsus/default.mspx
>
> And, almost everything else is at
> http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com
> .....
>
>
>
Re: WSUS and windows genuine advantage
"Lawrence Garvin \(MVP\)" <onsitech[ at ]community.nospam> 6/29/2007 4:41:48 AM
"Pat" <Pat[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C8838AA2-5792-4D14-AA43-DBD0E8D85A82[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Thanks for getting back to me so fast.
> The problem I"m having is I approved windows media 11 and when the user
> logs
> on to the computer that is restricted from connecting to the internet the
> windows validation comes up and can't validate.

Ahhh.. yes.... I'd forgotten.. my apologies.

Windows Media Player 11 seems to be the great exception to this promise ---
that WSUS Admins would never need to deal with WGA.

But again.... the primary 'workaround' to this is to install WMP11 in
unattended /scheduled/ mode, which should alleviate the issues being
encountered in an interactive installation.

I did successfully install WMP11 in an unattended 3am event on an XP SP2
system just last week (along with IE7, and a host of other updates). (What I
cannot confirm, though, is the possibility that the system may have already
had WGA implemented and active -- that might be why I had no issues.)

--
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCTS, MCP
Independent WSUS Evangelist
MVP-Software Distribution (2005-2007)
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=30E00990-8F1D-4774-BD62-D095EB07B36E

Everything you need for WSUS is at
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/technologies/featured/wsus/default.mspx

And, almost everything else is at
http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com
.....


Re: WSUS and windows genuine advantage
Harry Johnston <harry[ at ]scms.waikato.ac.nz> 6/29/2007 4:49:22 AM
Lawrence Garvin (MVP) wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Windows Media Player 11 seems to be the great exception to this promise ---
> that WSUS Admins would never need to deal with WGA.
>
> But again.... the primary 'workaround' to this is to install WMP11 in
> unattended /scheduled/ mode, which should alleviate the issues being
> encountered in an interactive installation.

This doesn't help, because the WGA comes up when WMP11 is launched, not when it
is installed. It also comes up once for each user. (In my environment, each
user has to run WGA, but succeeds despite having no admin access or direct
internet connection; however this may be due to our having a volume licensed
version of the OS.)

Harry.
Re: WSUS and windows genuine advantage
"Lawrence Garvin \(MVP\)" <onsitech[ at ]community.nospam> 6/30/2007 12:11:11 AM
"Harry Johnston" <harry[ at ]scms.waikato.ac.nz> wrote in message
news:O1$xcjguHHA.3404[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Lawrence Garvin (MVP) wrote:
>
>> Windows Media Player 11 seems to be the great exception to this
>> promise --- that WSUS Admins would never need to deal with WGA.
>>
>> But again.... the primary 'workaround' to this is to install WMP11 in
>> unattended /scheduled/ mode, which should alleviate the issues being
>> encountered in an interactive installation.
>
> This doesn't help, because the WGA comes up when WMP11 is launched, not
> when it is installed.

Well.. shucks. :-/

> It also comes up once for each user.

That sux.

I guess MS isn't really interested in widespread adoption of WMP11 in the
organizational environment, then, are they?


> (In my environment, each user has to run WGA, but succeeds despite having
> no admin access or direct internet connection; however this may be due to
> our having a volume licensed version of the OS.)


*That* is most interesting!

You may be right about the VL OS.

But, if so, the stupid application ought to be smart enough to determine
that fact, *before* executing the WGA dialog, and only executing the WGA
dialog *conditionally*, if the OS is not a VL key. (And.. YES, they can
determine that... it comes from the ProductID stored in the registry in
Plain Text!.)




--
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCTS, MCP
Independent WSUS Evangelist
MVP-Software Distribution (2005-2007)
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=30E00990-8F1D-4774-BD62-D095EB07B36E

Everything you need for WSUS is at
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/technologies/featured/wsus/default.mspx

And, almost everything else is at
http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com
.....


Re: WSUS and windows genuine advantage
Harry Johnston <harry[ at ]scms.waikato.ac.nz> 6/30/2007 3:31:43 AM
Lawrence Garvin (MVP) wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> I guess MS isn't really interested in widespread adoption of WMP11 in the
> organizational environment, then, are they?

I guess not. Fortunately for me I can take a relaxed attitude to it since we
don't make use of WMP - or any other media player for that matter, unless you
count QuickTime. (Oh, there are a few staff and grad desktops that use one or
another but no widespread deployment.)

Perhaps someone can suggest a decent third-party alternative to WMP for those
who need it in an organizational setting? Sadly everything I've seen so far
seems unsatisfactory in one respect or another, though obviously I haven't
looked all that hard.

Harry.

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