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Thread: new image issue

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new image issue
Marc Castadot <Marc.Castadot[ at ]dot.state.nj.us> 6/25/2007 3:31:23 PM
We have a segment of our network that has no internet access by design.
When we build a new machine (or image) it refuses to check in with our WSUS
server from that segment. It is only after the pc (or imaging machine) gets
moved to a segment that has internet access that it checks in with the Wsus
server.

Is that by design or is there flaw?

Info: winXP pc SP1
WSUS 2.0 and 3 (both tried and failed)

RE: new image issue
eddieb[ at ]online.microsoft.com (Eddie Bowers [MSFT]) 6/25/2007 9:15:36 PM
I would guess that your selfupdate directory isn't working on port 80 and
your WSUS site is on 8530.
The older clients can only selfupdate over port 80.
You can do a few things to test this. First see what version of wuaueng.dll
is on these machines originally.
See if you manually update the client to the most recent version:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/v7/windowsupdate/redist/standalone/Windows
UpdateAgent30-x86.exe
if it then checks in.

Eddie Bowers
Security Support
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Re: new image issue
"Lawrence Garvin \(MVP\)" <onsitech[ at ]community.nospam> 6/26/2007 2:04:19 AM
"Marc Castadot" <Marc.Castadot[ at ]dot.state.nj.us> wrote in message
news:178ea80e180ea8c985337e548eaa[ at ]msnews.microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> We have a segment of our network that has no internet access by design.
> When we build a new machine (or image) it refuses to check in with our
> WSUS server from that segment. It is only after the pc (or imaging
> machine) gets moved to a segment that has internet access that it checks
> in with the Wsus server.
>
> Is that by design or is there flaw?
>
> Info: winXP pc SP1

There's a couple of possibilities, here, Marc.

First,when you say that you have a segment that has no internet access by
design, but your WSUS server does have access, it begs two questions:
[a] How does that segment get to the WSUS server, in general?
[b] How are you blocking Internet access from that segment?

Possibly the issue is not getting *to* the WSUS server, per se, but merely
getting *out* of that restricted subnet in any fashion?

Eddie makes this suggestion
>I would guess that your selfupdate directory isn't working on port 80 and
>your WSUS site is on 8530.
>The older clients can only selfupdate over port 80.

But I can't see how those symptoms would be specific to one subnet over
another. If the WSUS site wasn't functioning on port 80, and XP SP1 system
wouldn't get selfupdated, even if it were plugged into the physical port
right next to the WSUS server.

However, if the *router* between the restricted subnet and the rest of the
world had port 80 blocked (Is that how you're "restricting access to the
Internet"?) -- then that would definitely muck with WSUS functionality.

I believe you're going to find this is likely to be a networking
infrastructure issue.

--
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCTS, MCP
Independent WSUS Evangelist
MVP-Software Distribution (2005-2007)
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=30E00990-8F1D-4774-BD62-D095EB07B36E

Everything you need for WSUS is at
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/technologies/featured/wsus/default.mspx

And, almost everything else is at
http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com
.....


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