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WSUS 3.0 IP addresses are incorrect
Chris Callison 7/2/2007 4:14:02 PM
I just recently upgraded my WSUS 2.0 to WSUS 3.0 using the update package
from WSUS.

All servers are using GPO-enforced settings that connect to the server by
it's NetBIOS name. The workstations are connecting by a externally available
IP address, published through our ISA 2004 server so that they can connect
without having to use VPN.

All of the reported servers and workstations are showing the IP address of
the proxy server that they use to connect to the server.

Any ideas on how to fix this? Does the WSUS server not detect a proxy
session?
Re: WSUS 3.0 IP addresses are incorrect
"Lawrence Garvin \(MVP\)" <onsitech[ at ]community.nospam> 7/2/2007 5:05:49 PM

"Chris Callison" <ChrisCallison[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9008531C-3C19-4BB5-90D9-AA240B41D707[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
>I just recently upgraded my WSUS 2.0 to WSUS 3.0 using the update package
> from WSUS.
>
> All servers are using GPO-enforced settings that connect to the server by
> it's NetBIOS name.

I'll save this soapbox for another time.... but suffice it to say (again)
that NetBIOS has nothing to do with this process.

When you configure http://hostname in a URL, the application doing the
hostname lookup to obtain an =IPAddress= automatically appends the Default
Domain Suffix to that string (and any other connection-specific or
search-specified domain suffixes), and does a lookup on the name
'hostname.yourdomain'.


> The workstations are connecting by a externally available
> IP address, published through our ISA 2004 server so that they can connect
> without having to use VPN.


Aside from being a violation of the WSUS license by making the WSUS server
"publicly available", it's also a security hole the size of a meteor.


> All of the reported servers and workstations are showing the IP address of
> the proxy server that they use to connect to the server.

Yep.... because, most likely, you've configured the ISA server not to
provide the internal web server with the =actual= IP Address of the
requesting client.


> Any ideas on how to fix this? Does the WSUS server not detect a proxy
> session?

Aside from your unorthodox avoidance of VPN connectivity, and unlicensed
publication of the WSUS server to the Internet, this is exclusively an ISA
2004 configuration error.

On the web publishing rule dialog, on the TO tab... in the section "Proxy
requests to published server", you've selected the option "Requests appear
to come from the ISA Server computer". The correct option in this scenario
is "Requests appear to come from the original client".


--
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCTS, MCP
Independent WSUS Evangelist
MVP-Software Distribution (2005-2007)
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=30E00990-8F1D-4774-BD62-D095EB07B36E

Everything you need for WSUS is at
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/technologies/featured/wsus/default.mspx

And, almost everything else is at
http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com
.....


Re: WSUS 3.0 IP addresses are incorrect
Chris Callison 7/3/2007 2:30:01 AM
That doesn't explain why the server that are connected to WSUS by
"http:\WSUSServerName" are showing up in the database with the ISA server as
their IP address. All ISA servers have been configured to bypass the
firewall for local traffic, both in the firewall client and the web browser
configuration.

"Lawrence Garvin (MVP)" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>
> "Chris Callison" <ChrisCallison[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9008531C-3C19-4BB5-90D9-AA240B41D707[ at ]microsoft.com...
> >I just recently upgraded my WSUS 2.0 to WSUS 3.0 using the update package
> > from WSUS.
> >
> > All servers are using GPO-enforced settings that connect to the server by
> > it's NetBIOS name.
>
> I'll save this soapbox for another time.... but suffice it to say (again)
> that NetBIOS has nothing to do with this process.
>
> When you configure http://hostname in a URL, the application doing the
> hostname lookup to obtain an =IPAddress= automatically appends the Default
> Domain Suffix to that string (and any other connection-specific or
> search-specified domain suffixes), and does a lookup on the name
> 'hostname.yourdomain'.
>
>
> > The workstations are connecting by a externally available
> > IP address, published through our ISA 2004 server so that they can connect
> > without having to use VPN.
>
>
> Aside from being a violation of the WSUS license by making the WSUS server
> "publicly available", it's also a security hole the size of a meteor.
>
>
> > All of the reported servers and workstations are showing the IP address of
> > the proxy server that they use to connect to the server.
>
> Yep.... because, most likely, you've configured the ISA server not to
> provide the internal web server with the =actual= IP Address of the
> requesting client.
>
>
> > Any ideas on how to fix this? Does the WSUS server not detect a proxy
> > session?
>
> Aside from your unorthodox avoidance of VPN connectivity, and unlicensed
> publication of the WSUS server to the Internet, this is exclusively an ISA
> 2004 configuration error.
>
> On the web publishing rule dialog, on the TO tab... in the section "Proxy
> requests to published server", you've selected the option "Requests appear
> to come from the ISA Server computer". The correct option in this scenario
> is "Requests appear to come from the original client".
>
>
> --
> Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCTS, MCP
> Independent WSUS Evangelist
> MVP-Software Distribution (2005-2007)
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=30E00990-8F1D-4774-BD62-D095EB07B36E
>
> Everything you need for WSUS is at
> http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/technologies/featured/wsus/default.mspx
>
> And, almost everything else is at
> http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com
> .....
>
>
>
Re: WSUS 3.0 IP addresses are incorrect
Harry Johnston <harry[ at ]scms.waikato.ac.nz> 7/3/2007 3:05:08 AM
Chris Callison wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> That doesn't explain why the server that are connected to WSUS by
> "http:\WSUSServerName" are showing up in the database with the ISA server as
> their IP address.

Yes, it does. Please read Lawrence's post again; he already explained this.

Specifically, from Lawrence's post:

>> Aside from your unorthodox avoidance of VPN connectivity, and unlicensed
>> publication of the WSUS server to the Internet, this is exclusively an ISA
>> 2004 configuration error.
>>
>> On the web publishing rule dialog, on the TO tab... in the section "Proxy
>> requests to published server", you've selected the option "Requests appear
>> to come from the ISA Server computer". The correct option in this scenario
>> is "Requests appear to come from the original client".

The ISA server is hiding the client's IP addresses because it has been
configured to do so. Change this setting and this particular problem should go
away.

Harry.
Re: WSUS 3.0 IP addresses are incorrect
"Lawrence Garvin \(MVP\)" <onsitech[ at ]community.nospam> 7/3/2007 3:28:04 PM
"Chris Callison" <ChrisCallison[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7F5B72DA-D66A-477B-9533-8982E620B776[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> That doesn't explain why the server that are connected to WSUS by
> "http:\WSUSServerName" are showing up in the database with the ISA server
> as
> their IP address.

It might... it might not.

(btw... the correct format of the url is http://WSUSServerName -- make
sure you have the slashes in the correct orientation)

If the *only* configured address for the WSUS Server is the IP Address on
the *external* interface, then your internal servers will access that
resource just like it's a web server on the Internet -- the only difference
is you've got a boatload of traffic going through your ISA Server that
doesn't need to be there. And, the ISA Server is answering for those
internal servers.


> All ISA servers have been configured to bypass the
> firewall for local traffic, both in the firewall client and the web
> browser
> configuration.


Huh???????

The ISA Server =IS= the firewall!!

And, as for "local traffic" none of it should even be touching the ISA
Server -- which, btw, last I checked on mine, has no provisions for
"bypassing local traffic".

Perhaps... just perhaps.... you're a bit confused between the firewall
functionality of ISA server and the PROXY functionality of ISA server -- and
what you meant to write was: "All clients have been configured to bypass the
ISA proxy server for local traffic.."?

Either way, though, if the =IP ADDRESS= of the WSUS Server is only
accessible via DNS on a =public= address, then that's what's causing the
problem, and your proxy client configuration to bypass the proxy for
internal addresses is irrelevant, because the WSUS server isn't being
accessed on an internal address.



--
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCTS, MCP
Independent WSUS Evangelist
MVP-Software Distribution (2005-2007)
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=30E00990-8F1D-4774-BD62-D095EB07B36E

Everything you need for WSUS is at
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/technologies/featured/wsus/default.mspx

And, almost everything else is at
http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com
.....


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