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In WSUS 2.0 there was an equation to how many computers you can manage, the equation being 15,000 computers at 22 hour checkin, 7500 computers per 11 hour checkins, etc. In WSUS 3.0 I have found no reference to this and have read it can support many more clients than before. From what I can find in the read me docs, it doesnt appear to have a limitation with the database but is more related to the hardware that WSUS is running on. http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserve...3.mspx?mfr=true My question is, if a front end server with a backend SQL is done with 3.0 does the hardware requirement apply to both servers are is one much more important than the other. I would prefer that clients and server check in as frequent as possible but as I found out in 2.0 it will overfill the tbevents field leaving your server unfuctional and having to manually clean out the table. We currently have around 4000 pc's and 100 servers. I would like to have my servers checkin every one hour and PC's every 3 hours. Does anyone feel I will have problems with this bogging the WSUS server down or worste the clients. My front end server is dual 3.0 xeons with 1 gig of ram and a back end SQL 2005 server on dual 2.8 xeons with 2 gigs of ram. I am also guessing that the IIS logs will be larger so a bit more space may be needed on the front end, I also planned to schedule the script to reindex the the database every weekend . Any help or insight would be appreciated in specing out my setup.
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"Daniel the Security Guy" <DanieltheSecurityGuy[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B20C3E12-0529-40D9-8A9B-064626D5ACE6[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > In WSUS 2.0 there was an equation to how many computers you can manage, > the > equation being 15,000 computers at 22 hour checkin, 7500 computers per 11 > hour checkins, etc. In WSUS 3.0 I have found no reference to this and > have > read it can support many more clients than before. From what I can find > in > the read me docs, it doesnt appear to have a limitation with the database > but > is more related to the hardware that WSUS is running on.
The 15,000 client limitation in WSUS 2.0 was directly caused by a limitation in the database maintenance procedures written for WSUS 2.0.
Those procedures have been remediated, and the only limitation in WSUS 3.0 is a function of the actual server capacity.
However, if you review the WSUS 3.0 Deployment Guide, you'll find that the documentation places an arbitrary cap at 20,000 clients, presuming a 64-bit server farm deployment.
> My question is, if a front end server with a backend SQL is done with 3.0 > does the hardware requirement apply to both servers are is one much more > important than the other.
The primary hardware constrainst will vary from FE to BE server. For example, on the BE server, the primary issue is with sufficient RAM to support caching for the database server.
With the front end server, the primary constraints will be CPU (to handle the client requests, and the middleware requests and post-processing to the database), and the disk I/O (to handle file download requests). A secondary limitation would be RAM, in terms of supporting sufficient filesystem caching to assist in the disk I/O demands.
> I would prefer that clients and server check in as > frequent as possible but as I found out in 2.0 it will overfill the > tbevents > field leaving your server unfuctional and having to manually clean out the > table.
This has been fixed in WSUS 3.0 and is no longer a concern.
> We currently have around 4000 pc's and 100 servers. I would like to > have my servers checkin every one hour and PC's every 3 hours. Does > anyone > feel I will have problems with this bogging the WSUS server down or worste > the clients.
100 servers every hour is 2200 servers once a day, and 4000 PCs every 3 hours is 12,000 pc once a day --- or the equivalent of < 15,000 PCs per day -- well within the constraints of a single-server deployment on recommended hardware.
> My front end server is dual 3.0 xeons with 1 gig of ram and a > back end SQL 2005 server on dual 2.8 xeons with 2 gigs of ram.
Piece of cake. :-)
> I am also > guessing that the IIS logs will be larger so a bit more space may be > needed > on the front end, I also planned to schedule the script to reindex the the > database every weekend . Any help or insight would be appreciated in > specing > out my setup.
You'd have to chat directly with Microsoft as pertains to direct maintenance of the database, although with the norm being *monthly* distributions of updates, I highly doubt that weekly reindexing would be a requirement -- perhaps quarterly would be sufficient -- but then if a reindex only takes 10 minutes, why not do it every week! :-)
-- Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCTS, MCP Independent WSUS Evangelist MVP-Software Distribution (2005-2007) https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=30E00990-8F1D-4774-BD62-D095EB07B36E
Everything you need for WSUS is at http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/technologies/featured/wsus/default.mspx
And, almost everything else is at http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com .....
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