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Approve Updates window
Nigel Jett <jettn[ at ]evergreen.edu> 5/25/2007 6:25:11 PM
Anyone know why the Approve Updates window organizes the groups in such
a strange way? It's not alphabetical, it's not based on the order the
groups were created in. It doesn't make any sense.
Re: Approve Updates window
"Kris Owens \(MSFT\)" <krisow[ at ]microsoft.com> 5/29/2007 10:05:37 PM
It's a top-secret algorithm we invented.. or a bug that we didn't find until
too late. The order is based on the database's order, so it should remain
consistent even if it is nonsensical. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Thanks
Kris

"Nigel Jett" <jettn[ at ]evergreen.edu> wrote in message
news:OYzTJovnHHA.3460[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Anyone know why the Approve Updates window organizes the groups in such a
> strange way? It's not alphabetical, it's not based on the order the groups
> were created in. It doesn't make any sense.

Re: Approve Updates window
Nigel Jett <jettn[ at ]evergreen.edu> 5/30/2007 3:35:09 PM
Kris Owens (MSFT) wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> It's a top-secret algorithm we invented.. or a bug that we didn't find
> until too late. The order is based on the database's order, so it should
> remain consistent even if it is nonsensical. Sorry for the inconvenience.
>
> Thanks
> Kris
>
> "Nigel Jett" <jettn[ at ]evergreen.edu> wrote in message
> news:OYzTJovnHHA.3460[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Anyone know why the Approve Updates window organizes the groups in
>> such a strange way? It's not alphabetical, it's not based on the order
>> the groups were created in. It doesn't make any sense.
>

Any idea what the chances are of it getting fixed in the near-term?
I have a lot of groups so it feels like a lot of my time is spent
scrolling through that list. It would be so nice if my Alpha tester
group showed up at the top and my Beta tester group showed up right
below Alpha. Instead Alpha is almost at the very bottom and Beta is
buried somewhere in the middle.
Re: Approve Updates window
"Kris Owens \(MSFT\)" <krisow[ at ]microsoft.com> 5/30/2007 7:06:50 PM
It's something we're considering for an SP1 release, but I can't guarantee
it'll make it in unfortunately.

Thanks
Kris

"Nigel Jett" <jettn[ at ]evergreen.edu> wrote in message
news:upGPcAtoHHA.4516[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Kris Owens (MSFT) wrote:
>> It's a top-secret algorithm we invented.. or a bug that we didn't find
>> until too late. The order is based on the database's order, so it should
>> remain consistent even if it is nonsensical. Sorry for the inconvenience.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Kris
>>
>> "Nigel Jett" <jettn[ at ]evergreen.edu> wrote in message
>> news:OYzTJovnHHA.3460[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Anyone know why the Approve Updates window organizes the groups in such
>>> a strange way? It's not alphabetical, it's not based on the order the
>>> groups were created in. It doesn't make any sense.
>>
>
> Any idea what the chances are of it getting fixed in the near-term?
> I have a lot of groups so it feels like a lot of my time is spent
> scrolling through that list. It would be so nice if my Alpha tester group
> showed up at the top and my Beta tester group showed up right below Alpha.
> Instead Alpha is almost at the very bottom and Beta is buried somewhere in
> the middle.

Re: Approve Updates window
Wade Godfrey <wade[ at ]lcsd.logan.k12.ut.us> 5/30/2007 10:48:49 PM
Let me chime in my support for fixing this ASAP. I have buildings
connected via T1's and have to stagger the group approvals so as not to
saturate the links and it would be SO much easier if they were
alphabetized.

What are the possibilities of creating a script to fix the database and
put the groups in alphabetical order?

Kris Owens (MSFT) wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> It's something we're considering for an SP1 release, but I can't
> guarantee it'll make it in unfortunately.
>
> Thanks
> Kris
>
> "Nigel Jett" <jettn[ at ]evergreen.edu> wrote in message
> news:upGPcAtoHHA.4516[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Kris Owens (MSFT) wrote:
>>> It's a top-secret algorithm we invented.. or a bug that we didn't
>>> find until too late. The order is based on the database's order, so
>>> it should remain consistent even if it is nonsensical. Sorry for the
>>> inconvenience.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Kris
>>>
>>> "Nigel Jett" <jettn[ at ]evergreen.edu> wrote in message
>>> news:OYzTJovnHHA.3460[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Anyone know why the Approve Updates window organizes the groups in
>>>> such a strange way? It's not alphabetical, it's not based on the
>>>> order the groups were created in. It doesn't make any sense.
>>>
>>
>> Any idea what the chances are of it getting fixed in the near-term?
>> I have a lot of groups so it feels like a lot of my time is spent
>> scrolling through that list. It would be so nice if my Alpha tester
>> group showed up at the top and my Beta tester group showed up right
>> below Alpha. Instead Alpha is almost at the very bottom and Beta is
>> buried somewhere in the middle.
>
Re: Approve Updates window
"Lawrence Garvin \(MVP\)" <onsitech[ at ]community.nospam> 5/31/2007 12:13:34 AM

"Wade Godfrey" <wade[ at ]lcsd.logan.k12.ut.us> wrote in message
news:O6sD2ywoHHA.3484[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Let me chime in my support for fixing this ASAP. I have buildings
> connected via T1's and have to stagger the group approvals so as not to
> saturate the links and it would be SO much easier if they were
> alphabetized.

Wade.. I would think that if the BITS policies were appropriately configured
it would be impossible to saturate a T-1 link!

While I'm all in favor of fixing the issue, let's not justify the actions
based on something that can be fixed in more appropriate ways. :-)


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.....


Re: Approve Updates window
Wade Godfrey <wade[ at ]lcsd.logan.k12.ut.us> 5/31/2007 12:52:40 AM
Point taken, but that is not my only reasoning for the change. I'd much
rather see the groups alphabetized as it was in 2.0.

Lawrence Garvin (MVP) wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> "Wade Godfrey" <wade[ at ]lcsd.logan.k12.ut.us> wrote in message
> news:O6sD2ywoHHA.3484[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Let me chime in my support for fixing this ASAP. I have buildings
>> connected via T1's and have to stagger the group approvals so as not to
>> saturate the links and it would be SO much easier if they were
>> alphabetized.
>
> Wade.. I would think that if the BITS policies were appropriately configured
> it would be impossible to saturate a T-1 link!
>
> While I'm all in favor of fixing the issue, let's not justify the actions
> based on something that can be fixed in more appropriate ways. :-)
>
>

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