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DNS setup question/problem
"Ther Richardson" <trichardson[ at ]vfwnhc.orgspamfree> 4/27/2007 1:07:48 PM
I have a Win 2003 Native domain, for example we will call it
building.org. I am setting up a second domain in the forest that will
otherbuilding.org.

In building.org I have 2 Win 2003 servers running DNS all set up (by me,
several years ago, and now I don't remember much about it) should the new
domain ortherbuilding.org have its own DNS server? At some point very soon
Cisco will be putting in place VLANs to keep residents from the domain
ortherbuilding.org from seeing computers servers printers etc. on
building.org. the three servers in question are

building.org 192.168.1.198 Primary DNS server
building.org 192.168.1.199 Backup/Secondary DNS server.
Both point at themselves first and have the other as secondary

otherbuilding.org 192.168.1.11 During DCPOMO it installed and auto
configured DNS I have tweaked it just enough so it does not have the
loopback address in it instead of 192.168.11

My questions are...
Do I need DNS on the new server in otherbuilding.org?
If yes what should I make the pri and sec DNS addresses?

Sorry, but I cross posted to networking as well.


Ther Richardson

Systems Administrator

VFW National Home for Children


Re: DNS setup question/problem
"Herb Martin" <news[ at ]learnquick.com> 4/27/2007 2:51:16 PM

"Ther Richardson" <trichardson[ at ]vfwnhc.orgspamfree> wrote in message
news:1333t7tgvde69b5[ at ]corp.supernews.com...
[Quoted Text]
>I have a Win 2003 Native domain, for example we will call it
> building.org. I am setting up a second domain in the forest that will
> otherbuilding.org.

Why are two "buildings" different domains?

> In building.org I have 2 Win 2003 servers running DNS all set up (by me,
> several years ago, and now I don't remember much about it) should the new
> domain ortherbuilding.org have its own DNS server?

Not a requirement but typically that is the practice and usually best.

(The question actually uncovers a misconception that even experts assume
much of the time. The DNS server for a domain doesn't actually have to
be "in that domain" just able to resolve the names, but it is common for it
to be in that domain. Also, a DNS server might have zones from MANY
domains.)

Ultimately, you need building.or and otherbuilding.org ZONES to be
resolvable by ALL DNS clients (thus by all DNS Servers) "in the forest".


> At some point very soon Cisco will be putting in place VLANs to keep
> residents from the domain ortherbuilding.org from seeing computers servers
> printers etc. on building.org. the three servers in question are

Then you will definitely need SOME way to resolve the zone for the domain.

> building.org 192.168.1.198 Primary DNS server
> building.org 192.168.1.199 Backup/Secondary DNS server.
> Both point at themselves first and have the other as secondary
>
> otherbuilding.org 192.168.1.11 During DCPOMO it installed and auto
> configured DNS I have tweaked it just enough so it does not have the
> loopback address in it instead of 192.168.11
>
> My questions are...
> Do I need DNS on the new server in otherbuilding.org?
> If yes what should I make the pri and sec DNS addresses?

You mean the PREFERRED and ALTERNATE -- set the DNS clients
from a domain to use one of their own DNS servers first and the other
second.

> Sorry, but I cross posted to networking as well.

Crossposting is ENCOURAGED -- a single message crossposted to a
(reasonable) set of groups is a good thing when that makes sense.

> Ther Richardson
>
> Systems Administrator
>
> VFW National Home for Children
>


Re: DNS setup question/problem
"Ther Richardson" <trichardson[ at ]vfwnationalhome.org> 4/27/2007 5:03:43 PM
OK lets take it from near the top.

[Quoted Text]
>>I have a Win 2003 Native domain, for example we will call it
>> building.org. I am setting up a second domain in the forest that will
>> otherbuilding.org.
You replied

> Why are two "buildings" different domains?

We are not actually talking about two buildings, we are talking about a 650
acre campus with 80 buildings and I was trying to simplify it. Building.org
refers to my domain. It hosts my staff and all our computers, our exchange
server, file servers, database servers, and printers. DNS has been running
with no errors or warnings for months and all seemed well.

Other building refers to the residence buildings on campus which are about
to get their own high speed network. My original design and desire (based
on the orders of the directors) is that the two should never meet.
Residents should never even SEE the admin domain. Along comes Cisco and
says "OK NP we will put in this router & these T1's, add a few strategic
VLANS and they won't see each other.

I am OK with this because Cisco has been doing this for a while and i am
willing to take them at face value

>> In building.org I have 2 Win 2003 servers running DNS all set up (by me,
>> several years ago, and now I don't remember much about it) should the new
>> domain ortherbuilding.org have its own DNS server?

> Not a requirement but typically that is the practice and usually best.

That's what I thought

> (The question actually uncovers a misconception that even experts assume
> much of the time. The DNS server for a domain doesn't actually have to
> be "in that domain" just able to resolve the names, but it is common for
> it
> to be in that domain. Also, a DNS server might have zones from MANY
> domains.)
>
> Ultimately, you need building.or and otherbuilding.org ZONES to be
> resolvable by ALL DNS clients (thus by all DNS Servers) "in the forest".
>

>> At some point very soon Cisco will be putting in place VLANs to keep
>> residents from the domain ortherbuilding.org from seeing computers
>> servers printers etc. on building.org. the three servers in question are
>
> Then you will definitely need SOME way to resolve the zone for the domain.

OK, again what I thought. So here is where I stand
To clarify further, lets call the domains admin and campus. After ADPrep
/forestprep and /domainprep I added the new campus domain to the forest
containing the old domain giving me two domains in the one forest. The new
domain, campus.org currently has two servers in it (server1 and Server2(I
know its original)). Yesterday, I was able to add 7 PC lab computers to
this domain, One test PC that will go into a house, and the second server.
Then all of a sudden everything says that there is no network path. If I
browse from from any computer on the campus domain I see every box except
server1. NSLookup shows the server as default server with the correct
address.
I am kind of stuck at that point. and am floundering. any thoughts


Re: DNS setup question/problem
"Herb Martin" <news[ at ]learnquick.com> 4/27/2007 7:35:52 PM

"Ther Richardson" <trichardson[ at ]vfwnationalhome.org> wrote in message
news:1334b4tf6v247af[ at ]corp.supernews.com...
[Quoted Text]
> OK lets take it from near the top.
>
>>>I have a Win 2003 Native domain, for example we will call it
>>> building.org. I am setting up a second domain in the forest that will
>>> otherbuilding.org.
> You replied
>
>> Why are two "buildings" different domains?
>
> We are not actually talking about two buildings, we are talking about a
> 650 acre campus with 80 buildings and I was trying to simplify it.
> Building.org refers to my domain. It hosts my staff and all our
> computers, our exchange server, file servers, database servers, and
> printers. DNS has been running with no errors or warnings for months and
> all seemed well.
>
> Other building refers to the residence buildings on campus which are about
> to get their own high speed network. My original design and desire (based
> on the orders of the directors) is that the two should never meet.
> Residents should never even SEE the admin domain. Along comes Cisco and
> says "OK NP we will put in this router & these T1's, add a few strategic
> VLANS and they won't see each other.

SEE? Usully that means "see in the browser or network neighborhood" and
domains are NOT boundaries for such.

See as in "use resources" can be controlled (allowed or denied) whether it
is in the same domain or different domain (of the forest.)

Two domains are not giving you or required for your goal either way.

Even "See" as in Ping or route to -- that's going to be pretty much
a requirement in a SINGLE FOREST so this isn't being helped either.

> I am OK with this because Cisco has been doing this for a while and i am
> willing to take them at face value
>
>>> In building.org I have 2 Win 2003 servers running DNS all set up (by me,
>>> several years ago, and now I don't remember much about it) should the
>>> new domain ortherbuilding.org have its own DNS server?
>
>> Not a requirement but typically that is the practice and usually best.
>
> That's what I thought
>
>> (The question actually uncovers a misconception that even experts assume
>> much of the time. The DNS server for a domain doesn't actually have to
>> be "in that domain" just able to resolve the names, but it is common for
>> it
>> to be in that domain. Also, a DNS server might have zones from MANY
>> domains.)
>>
>> Ultimately, you need building.or and otherbuilding.org ZONES to be
>> resolvable by ALL DNS clients (thus by all DNS Servers) "in the forest".
>>
>
>>> At some point very soon Cisco will be putting in place VLANs to keep
>>> residents from the domain ortherbuilding.org from seeing computers
>>> servers printers etc. on building.org. the three servers in question
>>> are
>>
>> Then you will definitely need SOME way to resolve the zone for the
>> domain.
>
> OK, again what I thought. So here is where I stand
> To clarify further, lets call the domains admin and campus. After ADPrep
> /forestprep and /domainprep I added the new campus domain to the forest
> containing the old domain giving me two domains in the one forest. The
> new domain, campus.org currently has two servers in it (server1 and
> Server2(I know its original)). Yesterday, I was able to add 7 PC lab
> computers to this domain, One test PC that will go into a house, and the
> second server.

> Then all of a sudden everything says that there is no network path. If I
> browse from from any computer on the campus domain I see every box except
> server1. NSLookup shows the server as default server with the correct
> address.
> I am kind of stuck at that point. and am floundering. any thoughts

Browsing is based on NetBIOS which required WINS Server to work across
subnets (i.e., across Broadcast domains.)

You need WINS Server and every machine a WINS client (esp. DCs) to browse
across multiple subnets.

If the PDC-Emulators from the two domains find each other then you
will be able to browse both Domains (not necessarily use resource but
browse.) Browsing requires NO trusts NOR permissions.


--
Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
http://www.LearnQuick.Com
(phone on web site)


Re: DNS setup question/problem
"Ther Richardson" <trichardson[ at ]vfwnationalhome.org> 4/30/2007 2:20:03 PM
Herb,
See as in browse is correct. Although this is not easy to do with MS
networking I assured them that even if they could see the admin domain a
resident would not have access.


[Quoted Text]
>>> Ultimately, you need building.org and otherbuilding.org ZONES to be
>>> resolvable by ALL DNS clients (thus by all DNS Servers) "in the
>>> forest".

Go into a little more detail here if you can, for instance how would I set
up a zone for the admin domain on the campus domain server

>>> Then you will definitely need SOME way to resolve the zone for the
>>> domain.

> Browsing is based on NetBIOS which required WINS Server to work across
> subnets (i.e., across Broadcast domains.)
>
> You need WINS Server and every machine a WINS client (esp. DCs) to browse
> across multiple subnets.

Server1 on the campus domain is a WINS server in addition to DNS

> If the PDC-Emulators from the two domains find each other then you
> will be able to browse both Domains (not necessarily use resource but
> browse.) Browsing requires NO trusts NOR permissions.


Re: DNS setup question/problem
"Ther Richardson" <trichardson[ at ]vfwnationalhome.org> 4/30/2007 3:03:58 PM
In addition,
Server1 on the new domain Campus has the following settings and a problem I
may not have mentioned.
tcp/ip
IP 192.168.1.11
SNM 255.255.255.0
DGW 192.168.1.1

DNS
192.168.1.199 Admin2 (server in the Admin Domain)
192.168.1.11 Itself
Append primary and connection specific dns suffixes with append parent
suffixes of the primary DNS suffix checked
register this connection's address in DNS is checked also

WINS
192.168.1.198 Admin1 Server in Admin Domain
192.168.1.11 Itself

And the problem is that it cannot see itself while browsing the network, nor
can other computers see it.


"Herb Martin" <news[ at ]learnquick.com> wrote in message
news:OeKTFNQiHHA.3452[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
>
> "Ther Richardson" <trichardson[ at ]vfwnationalhome.org> wrote in message
> news:1334b4tf6v247af[ at ]corp.supernews.com...
>> OK lets take it from near the top.
>>
>>>>I have a Win 2003 Native domain, for example we will call it
>>>> building.org. I am setting up a second domain in the forest that will
>>>> otherbuilding.org.
>> You replied
>>
>>> Why are two "buildings" different domains?
>>
>> We are not actually talking about two buildings, we are talking about a
>> 650 acre campus with 80 buildings and I was trying to simplify it.
>> Building.org refers to my domain. It hosts my staff and all our
>> computers, our exchange server, file servers, database servers, and
>> printers. DNS has been running with no errors or warnings for months and
>> all seemed well.
>>
>> Other building refers to the residence buildings on campus which are
>> about to get their own high speed network. My original design and desire
>> (based on the orders of the directors) is that the two should never meet.
>> Residents should never even SEE the admin domain. Along comes Cisco and
>> says "OK NP we will put in this router & these T1's, add a few strategic
>> VLANS and they won't see each other.
>
> SEE? Usully that means "see in the browser or network neighborhood" and
> domains are NOT boundaries for such.
>
> See as in "use resources" can be controlled (allowed or denied) whether it
> is in the same domain or different domain (of the forest.)
>
> Two domains are not giving you or required for your goal either way.
>
> Even "See" as in Ping or route to -- that's going to be pretty much
> a requirement in a SINGLE FOREST so this isn't being helped either.
>
>> I am OK with this because Cisco has been doing this for a while and i am
>> willing to take them at face value
>>
>>>> In building.org I have 2 Win 2003 servers running DNS all set up (by
>>>> me, several years ago, and now I don't remember much about it) should
>>>> the new domain ortherbuilding.org have its own DNS server?
>>
>>> Not a requirement but typically that is the practice and usually best.
>>
>> That's what I thought
>>
>>> (The question actually uncovers a misconception that even experts assume
>>> much of the time. The DNS server for a domain doesn't actually have to
>>> be "in that domain" just able to resolve the names, but it is common for
>>> it
>>> to be in that domain. Also, a DNS server might have zones from MANY
>>> domains.)
>>>
>>> Ultimately, you need building.or and otherbuilding.org ZONES to be
>>> resolvable by ALL DNS clients (thus by all DNS Servers) "in the
>>> forest".
>>>
>>
>>>> At some point very soon Cisco will be putting in place VLANs to keep
>>>> residents from the domain ortherbuilding.org from seeing computers
>>>> servers printers etc. on building.org. the three servers in question
>>>> are
>>>
>>> Then you will definitely need SOME way to resolve the zone for the
>>> domain.
>>
>> OK, again what I thought. So here is where I stand
>> To clarify further, lets call the domains admin and campus. After ADPrep
>> /forestprep and /domainprep I added the new campus domain to the forest
>> containing the old domain giving me two domains in the one forest. The
>> new domain, campus.org currently has two servers in it (server1 and
>> Server2(I know its original)). Yesterday, I was able to add 7 PC lab
>> computers to this domain, One test PC that will go into a house, and the
>> second server.
>
>> Then all of a sudden everything says that there is no network path. If I
>> browse from from any computer on the campus domain I see every box except
>> server1. NSLookup shows the server as default server with the correct
>> address.
>> I am kind of stuck at that point. and am floundering. any thoughts
>
> Browsing is based on NetBIOS which required WINS Server to work across
> subnets (i.e., across Broadcast domains.)
>
> You need WINS Server and every machine a WINS client (esp. DCs) to browse
> across multiple subnets.
>
> If the PDC-Emulators from the two domains find each other then you
> will be able to browse both Domains (not necessarily use resource but
> browse.) Browsing requires NO trusts NOR permissions.
>
>
> --
> Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
> http://www.LearnQuick.Com
> (phone on web site)
>


Re: DNS setup question/problem
cericme[ at ]gmail.com 4/30/2007 5:04:15 PM
On Apr 30, 10:03 am, "Ther Richardson"
<trichard...[ at ]vfwnationalhome.org> wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> In addition,
> Server1 on the new domain Campus has the following settings and a problem I
> may not have mentioned.
> tcp/ip
> IP 192.168.1.11
> SNM 255.255.255.0
> DGW 192.168.1.1
>
> DNS
> 192.168.1.199 Admin2 (server in the Admin Domain)
> 192.168.1.11 Itself
> Append primary and connection specific dns suffixes with append parent
> suffixes of the primary DNS suffix checked
> register this connection's address in DNS is checked also
>
> WINS
> 192.168.1.198 Admin1 Server in Admin Domain
> 192.168.1.11 Itself
>
> And the problem is that it cannot see itself while browsing the network, nor
> can other computers see it.
>
> "Herb Martin" <n...[ at ]learnquick.com> wrote in message
>
> news:OeKTFNQiHHA.3452[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Ther Richardson" <trichard...[ at ]vfwnationalhome.org> wrote in message
> >news:1334b4tf6v247af[ at ]corp.supernews.com...
> >> OK lets take it from near the top.
>
> >>>>I have a Win 2003 Native domain, for example we will call it
> >>>> building.org. I am setting up a second domain in the forest that will
> >>>> otherbuilding.org.
> >> You replied
>
> >>> Why are two "buildings" different domains?
>
> >> We are not actually talking about two buildings, we are talking about a
> >> 650 acre campus with 80 buildings and I was trying to simplify it.
> >> Building.org refers to my domain. It hosts my staff and all our
> >> computers, our exchange server, file servers, database servers, and
> >> printers. DNS has been running with no errors or warnings for months and
> >> all seemed well.
>
> >> Other building refers to the residence buildings on campus which are
> >> about to get their own high speed network. My original design and desire
> >> (based on the orders of the directors) is that the two should never meet.
> >> Residents should never even SEE the admin domain. Along comes Cisco and
> >> says "OK NP we will put in this router & these T1's, add a few strategic
> >> VLANS and they won't see each other.
>
> > SEE? Usully that means "see in the browser or network neighborhood" and
> > domains are NOT boundaries for such.
>
> > See as in "use resources" can be controlled (allowed or denied) whether it
> > is in the same domain or different domain (of the forest.)
>
> > Two domains are not giving you or required for your goal either way.
>
> > Even "See" as in Ping or route to -- that's going to be pretty much
> > a requirement in a SINGLE FOREST so this isn't being helped either.
>
> >> I am OK with this because Cisco has been doing this for a while and i am
> >> willing to take them at face value
>
> >>>> In building.org I have 2 Win 2003 servers running DNS all set up (by
> >>>> me, several years ago, and now I don't remember much about it) should
> >>>> the new domain ortherbuilding.org have its own DNS server?
>
> >>> Not a requirement but typically that is the practice and usually best.
>
> >> That's what I thought
>
> >>> (The question actually uncovers a misconception that even experts assume
> >>> much of the time. The DNS server for a domain doesn't actually have to
> >>> be "in that domain" just able to resolve the names, but it is common for
> >>> it
> >>> to be in that domain. Also, a DNS server might have zones from MANY
> >>> domains.)
>
> >>> Ultimately, you need building.or and otherbuilding.org ZONES to be
> >>> resolvable by ALL DNS clients (thus by all DNS Servers) "in the
> >>> forest".
>
> >>>> At some point very soon Cisco will be putting in place VLANs to keep
> >>>> residents from the domain ortherbuilding.org from seeing computers
> >>>> servers printers etc. on building.org. the three servers in question
> >>>> are
>
> >>> Then you will definitely need SOME way to resolve the zone for the
> >>> domain.
>
> >> OK, again what I thought. So here is where I stand
> >> To clarify further, lets call the domains admin and campus. After ADPrep
> >> /forestprep and /domainprep I added the new campus domain to the forest
> >> containing the old domain giving me two domains in the one forest. The
> >> new domain, campus.org currently has two servers in it (server1 and
> >> Server2(I know its original)). Yesterday, I was able to add 7 PC lab
> >> computers to this domain, One test PC that will go into a house, and the
> >> second server.
>
> >> Then all of a sudden everything says that there is no network path. If I
> >> browse from from any computer on the campus domain I see every box except
> >> server1. NSLookup shows the server as default server with the correct
> >> address.
> >> I am kind of stuck at that point. and am floundering. any thoughts
>
> > Browsing is based on NetBIOS which required WINS Server to work across
> > subnets (i.e., across Broadcast domains.)
>
> > You need WINS Server and every machine a WINS client (esp. DCs) to browse
> > across multiple subnets.
>
> > If the PDC-Emulators from the two domains find each other then you
> > will be able to browse both Domains (not necessarily use resource but
> > browse.) Browsing requires NO trusts NOR permissions.
>
> > --
> > Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
> >http://www.LearnQuick.Com
> > (phone on web site)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I can't find it but earlier this year I was tracking down a problem
where people weren't able to "see" different files and folders. Upon
investigating this I found that in Server 2003 their is a way to set
it up so that instead of the default where people could browse and
"see" files that they did not have access to it would hide them. So
say I have a folder of 5 files. The user can browse into the folder
but they only have the proper permissions to interact with 1 of
those. To the user it will look like their is 1 file. If I can think
of the name of it I'll post it. You might want to consider that when
everything settles as an extra layer. I know that doesn't help with
your immediate question though. (I also figured I might jog someone
elses memory on that one.)

Re: DNS setup question/problem
"Ther Richardson" <trichardson[ at ]vfwnationalhome.org> 4/30/2007 5:15:00 PM
thanks

<cericme[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177952655.215560.117880[ at ]p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
[Quoted Text]
> On Apr 30, 10:03 am, "Ther Richardson"
> <trichard...[ at ]vfwnationalhome.org> wrote:
>> In addition,
>> Server1 on the new domain Campus has the following settings and a problem
>> I
>> may not have mentioned.
>> tcp/ip
>> IP 192.168.1.11
>> SNM 255.255.255.0
>> DGW 192.168.1.1
>>
>> DNS
>> 192.168.1.199 Admin2 (server in the Admin Domain)
>> 192.168.1.11 Itself
>> Append primary and connection specific dns suffixes with append parent
>> suffixes of the primary DNS suffix checked
>> register this connection's address in DNS is checked also
>>
>> WINS
>> 192.168.1.198 Admin1 Server in Admin Domain
>> 192.168.1.11 Itself
>>
>> And the problem is that it cannot see itself while browsing the network,
>> nor
>> can other computers see it.
>>
>> "Herb Martin" <n...[ at ]learnquick.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:OeKTFNQiHHA.3452[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Ther Richardson" <trichard...[ at ]vfwnationalhome.org> wrote in message
>> >news:1334b4tf6v247af[ at ]corp.supernews.com...
>> >> OK lets take it from near the top.
>>
>> >>>>I have a Win 2003 Native domain, for example we will call it
>> >>>> building.org. I am setting up a second domain in the forest that
>> >>>> will
>> >>>> otherbuilding.org.
>> >> You replied
>>
>> >>> Why are two "buildings" different domains?
>>
>> >> We are not actually talking about two buildings, we are talking about
>> >> a
>> >> 650 acre campus with 80 buildings and I was trying to simplify it.
>> >> Building.org refers to my domain. It hosts my staff and all our
>> >> computers, our exchange server, file servers, database servers, and
>> >> printers. DNS has been running with no errors or warnings for months
>> >> and
>> >> all seemed well.
>>
>> >> Other building refers to the residence buildings on campus which are
>> >> about to get their own high speed network. My original design and
>> >> desire
>> >> (based on the orders of the directors) is that the two should never
>> >> meet.
>> >> Residents should never even SEE the admin domain. Along comes Cisco
>> >> and
>> >> says "OK NP we will put in this router & these T1's, add a few
>> >> strategic
>> >> VLANS and they won't see each other.
>>
>> > SEE? Usully that means "see in the browser or network neighborhood"
>> > and
>> > domains are NOT boundaries for such.
>>
>> > See as in "use resources" can be controlled (allowed or denied) whether
>> > it
>> > is in the same domain or different domain (of the forest.)
>>
>> > Two domains are not giving you or required for your goal either way.
>>
>> > Even "See" as in Ping or route to -- that's going to be pretty much
>> > a requirement in a SINGLE FOREST so this isn't being helped either.
>>
>> >> I am OK with this because Cisco has been doing this for a while and i
>> >> am
>> >> willing to take them at face value
>>
>> >>>> In building.org I have 2 Win 2003 servers running DNS all set up (by
>> >>>> me, several years ago, and now I don't remember much about it)
>> >>>> should
>> >>>> the new domain ortherbuilding.org have its own DNS server?
>>
>> >>> Not a requirement but typically that is the practice and usually
>> >>> best.
>>
>> >> That's what I thought
>>
>> >>> (The question actually uncovers a misconception that even experts
>> >>> assume
>> >>> much of the time. The DNS server for a domain doesn't actually have
>> >>> to
>> >>> be "in that domain" just able to resolve the names, but it is common
>> >>> for
>> >>> it
>> >>> to be in that domain. Also, a DNS server might have zones from MANY
>> >>> domains.)
>>
>> >>> Ultimately, you need building.or and otherbuilding.org ZONES to be
>> >>> resolvable by ALL DNS clients (thus by all DNS Servers) "in the
>> >>> forest".
>>
>> >>>> At some point very soon Cisco will be putting in place VLANs to
>> >>>> keep
>> >>>> residents from the domain ortherbuilding.org from seeing computers
>> >>>> servers printers etc. on building.org. the three servers in
>> >>>> question
>> >>>> are
>>
>> >>> Then you will definitely need SOME way to resolve the zone for the
>> >>> domain.
>>
>> >> OK, again what I thought. So here is where I stand
>> >> To clarify further, lets call the domains admin and campus. After
>> >> ADPrep
>> >> /forestprep and /domainprep I added the new campus domain to the
>> >> forest
>> >> containing the old domain giving me two domains in the one forest.
>> >> The
>> >> new domain, campus.org currently has two servers in it (server1 and
>> >> Server2(I know its original)). Yesterday, I was able to add 7 PC lab
>> >> computers to this domain, One test PC that will go into a house, and
>> >> the
>> >> second server.
>>
>> >> Then all of a sudden everything says that there is no network path.
>> >> If I
>> >> browse from from any computer on the campus domain I see every box
>> >> except
>> >> server1. NSLookup shows the server as default server with the correct
>> >> address.
>> >> I am kind of stuck at that point. and am floundering. any thoughts
>>
>> > Browsing is based on NetBIOS which required WINS Server to work across
>> > subnets (i.e., across Broadcast domains.)
>>
>> > You need WINS Server and every machine a WINS client (esp. DCs) to
>> > browse
>> > across multiple subnets.
>>
>> > If the PDC-Emulators from the two domains find each other then you
>> > will be able to browse both Domains (not necessarily use resource but
>> > browse.) Browsing requires NO trusts NOR permissions.
>>
>> > --
>> > Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
>> >http://www.LearnQuick.Com
>> > (phone on web site)- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I can't find it but earlier this year I was tracking down a problem
> where people weren't able to "see" different files and folders. Upon
> investigating this I found that in Server 2003 their is a way to set
> it up so that instead of the default where people could browse and
> "see" files that they did not have access to it would hide them. So
> say I have a folder of 5 files. The user can browse into the folder
> but they only have the proper permissions to interact with 1 of
> those. To the user it will look like their is 1 file. If I can think
> of the name of it I'll post it. You might want to consider that when
> everything settles as an extra layer. I know that doesn't help with
> your immediate question though. (I also figured I might jog someone
> elses memory on that one.)
>


Re: DNS setup question/problem
"Herb Martin" <news[ at ]learnquick.com> 5/1/2007 2:54:15 AM

<cericme[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177952655.215560.117880[ at ]p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
[Quoted Text]
> On Apr 30, 10:03 am, "Ther Richardson"
> <trichard...[ at ]vfwnationalhome.org> wrote:
>> In addition,
>> Server1 on the new domain Campus has the following settings and a problem
>> I
>> may not have mentioned.
>> tcp/ip
>> IP 192.168.1.11
>> SNM 255.255.255.0
>> DGW 192.168.1.1
>>
>> DNS
>> 192.168.1.199 Admin2 (server in the Admin Domain)
>> 192.168.1.11 Itself
>> Append primary and connection specific dns suffixes with append parent
>> suffixes of the primary DNS suffix checked
>> register this connection's address in DNS is checked also
>>
>> WINS
>> 192.168.1.198 Admin1 Server in Admin Domain
>> 192.168.1.11 Itself
>>
>> And the problem is that it cannot see itself while browsing the network,
>> nor
>> can other computers see it.
>>
>> "Herb Martin" <n...[ at ]learnquick.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:OeKTFNQiHHA.3452[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

Unfortunately "See the server" (browse) require NO permissions since
this list comes from the Master Browser.

You can set a registry entry to prevent the two (or more) PDC Emulators
from exchaning lists (used to be in the GUI but they removed that), but
I don't have that registry documented.

OR you can put PDC Emulators on different subnets and make sure they
don't use the same WINS Server (replicated set) -- they will not exchange
cross-domain lists.


--
Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
http://www.LearnQuick.Com
(phone on web site)


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