Inside DNS Issue amantica[ at ]gmail.com 5/29/2007 4:30:19 PM We have DNS setup for our current domain and I have all the proper entries so users get to my mail server via the internal ip instead of the outside ip. For example: ourdomain.com has entries for smtp.ourdomain.com as a mail exchanger and a host record and they both go to my internal ip 192.168.x.x Our mail domain name is changing and it will not be same as the name of our DNS domain. I need entries so smtp.newdomain.com gets translated to our inside ips. How do I do that? Do I have to setup a new zone?

Re: Inside DNS Issue "Herb Martin" <news[ at ]learnquick.com> 5/29/2007 7:54:55 PM <amantica[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message news:1180456219.327849.266760[ at ]g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... [Quoted Text] > We have DNS setup for our current domain and I have all the proper > entries so users get to my mail server via the internal ip instead of > the outside ip. > > For example: > ourdomain.com has entries for smtp.ourdomain.com as a mail exchanger > and a host record and they both go to my internal ip 192.168.x.x > > Our mail domain name is changing and it will not be same as the name > of our DNS domain. I need entries so smtp.newdomain.com gets > translated to our inside ips. How do I do that? > > Do I have to setup a new zone? No, you merely put the record in your CURRENT zone, e.g., domain.com as an MX record that maps the SMTP server name to your domain name. The equivalent of this: domain.com. MX 10 MailServer.OtherCompany.Com. You place this primarily in the EXTERNAL version of your zone (although you may need it internally also.) -- Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP http://www.LearnQuick.Com (phone on web site)

Re: Inside DNS Issue amantica[ at ]gmail.com 5/30/2007 1:56:50 PM On May 29, 3:54 pm, "Herb Martin" <n...[ at ]learnquick.com> wrote: [Quoted Text] > <amant...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1180456219.327849.266760[ at ]g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > We have DNS setup for our current domain and I have all the proper > > entries so users get to my mail server via the internal ip instead of > > the outside ip. > > > For example: > > ourdomain.com has entries for smtp.ourdomain.com as a mail exchanger > > and a host record and they both go to my internal ip 192.168.x.x > > > Our mail domain name is changing and it will not be same as the name > > of our DNS domain. I need entries so smtp.newdomain.com gets > > translated to our inside ips. How do I do that? > > > Do I have to setup a new zone? > > No, you merely put the record in your CURRENT zone, e.g., domain.com > as an MX record that maps the SMTP server name to your domain name. > > The equivalent of this: > > domain.com. MX 10 MailServer.OtherCompany.Com. > > You place this primarily in the EXTERNAL version of your zone > (although you may need it internally also.) > > -- > Herb Martin, MCSE, MVPhttp://www.LearnQuick.Com > (phone on web site) That won't work. I can't add an MX record with periods in it. Can you give me the exact steps please? I am using Server 2000. Thank you.

Re: Inside DNS Issue "Herb Martin" <news[ at ]learnquick.com> 5/30/2007 4:33:53 PM <amantica[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message news:1180533410.541269.39680[ at ]q66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... [Quoted Text] > On May 29, 3:54 pm, "Herb Martin" <n...[ at ]learnquick.com> wrote: >> <amant...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:1180456219.327849.266760[ at ]g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >> >> > We have DNS setup for our current domain and I have all the proper >> > entries so users get to my mail server via the internal ip instead of >> > the outside ip. >> >> > For example: >> > ourdomain.com has entries for smtp.ourdomain.com as a mail exchanger >> > and a host record and they both go to my internal ip 192.168.x.x >> >> > Our mail domain name is changing and it will not be same as the name >> > of our DNS domain. I need entries so smtp.newdomain.com gets >> > translated to our inside ips. How do I do that? >> >> > Do I have to setup a new zone? >> >> No, you merely put the record in your CURRENT zone, e.g., domain.com >> as an MX record that maps the SMTP server name to your domain name. >> >> The equivalent of this: >> >> domain.com. MX 10 MailServer.OtherCompany.Com. >> >> You place this primarily in the EXTERNAL version of your zone >> (although you may need it internally also.) >> >> -- >> Herb Martin, MCSE, MVPhttp://www.LearnQuick.Com >> (phone on web site) > > That won't work. I can't add an MX record with periods in it. Of course you can. IN the GUI the periods are not normally need though. > Can you > give me the exact steps please? I am using Server 2000. Thank you. Use the GUI, right click on the zone, new MX, add the record with the value of the external server. It is literally that simple. Try it. If you get it wrong, delete it and try again. It will take you less than 3 minutes to get it right. -- Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP http://www.LearnQuick.Com (phone on web site)

Re: Inside DNS Issue amantica[ at ]gmail.com 5/30/2007 6:13:58 PM On May 30, 12:33 pm, "Herb Martin" <n...[ at ]learnquick.com> wrote: [Quoted Text] > <amant...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1180533410.541269.39680[ at ]q66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On May 29, 3:54 pm, "Herb Martin" <n...[ at ]learnquick.com> wrote: > >> <amant...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message > > >>news:1180456219.327849.266760[ at ]g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > >> > We have DNS setup for our current domain and I have all the proper > >> > entries so users get to my mail server via the internal ip instead of > >> > the outside ip. > > >> > For example: > >> > ourdomain.com has entries for smtp.ourdomain.com as a mail exchanger > >> > and a host record and they both go to my internal ip 192.168.x.x > > >> > Our mail domain name is changing and it will not be same as the name > >> > of our DNS domain. I need entries so smtp.newdomain.com gets > >> > translated to our inside ips. How do I do that? > > >> > Do I have to setup a new zone? > > >> No, you merely put the record in your CURRENT zone, e.g., domain.com > >> as an MX record that maps the SMTP server name to your domain name. > > >> The equivalent of this: > > >> domain.com. MX 10 MailServer.OtherCompany.Com. > > >> You place this primarily in the EXTERNAL version of your zone > >> (although you may need it internally also.) > > >> -- > >> Herb Martin, MCSE, MVPhttp://www.LearnQuick.Com > >> (phone on web site) > > > That won't work. I can't add an MX record with periods in it. > > Of course you can. IN the GUI the periods are not normally need though. > > > Can you > > give me the exact steps please? I am using Server 2000. Thank you. > > Use the GUI, right click on the zone, new MX, add the record with > the value of the external server. > > It is literally that simple. > > Try it. If you get it wrong, delete it and try again. It will take you > less > than 3 minutes to get it right. > > -- > Herb Martin, MCSE, MVPhttp://www.LearnQuick.Com > (phone on web site)- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - That's not what I am asking. I have a zone called mydomain.com. In that zone I have an MX record for smtp and it goes to my mail server. That works no problem, you add an MX record, type SMTP and then put the IP address of the mail server. The smtp gets automatically added to my zone name to create smtp.mydomain.com Now what I am trying to do is change our mail domain, but not our zone name and I do not want to add a new zone. I need an mx record for smtp.newdomain.com so when people try to go to smtp.newdomain.com the DNS server doesn't refer them to an outside IP address. I do not know how to make the addition to the DNS for newdomain.com

Re: Inside DNS Issue "Herb Martin" <news[ at ]learnquick.com> 5/30/2007 7:58:48 PM <amantica[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message news:1180548838.303960.288260[ at ]q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... [Quoted Text] > On May 30, 12:33 pm, "Herb Martin" <n...[ at ]learnquick.com> wrote: >> > On May 29, 3:54 pm, "Herb Martin" <n...[ at ]learnquick.com> wrote: >> >> <amant...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >>news:1180456219.327849.266760[ at ]g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> > We have DNS setup for our current domain and I have all the proper >> >> > entries so users get to my mail server via the internal ip instead >> >> > of >> >> > the outside ip. >> >> >> > For example: >> >> > ourdomain.com has entries for smtp.ourdomain.com as a mail exchanger >> >> > and a host record and they both go to my internal ip 192.168.x.x >> >> >> > Our mail domain name is changing and it will not be same as the name >> >> > of our DNS domain. I need entries so smtp.newdomain.com gets >> >> > translated to our inside ips. How do I do that? >> >> >> > Do I have to setup a new zone? >> >> >> No, you merely put the record in your CURRENT zone, e.g., domain.com >> >> as an MX record that maps the SMTP server name to your domain name. >> >> >> The equivalent of this: >> >> >> domain.com. MX 10 MailServer.OtherCompany.Com. >> >> >> You place this primarily in the EXTERNAL version of your zone >> >> (although you may need it internally also.) >> >> >> -- >> >> Herb Martin, MCSE, MVPhttp://www.LearnQuick.Com >> >> (phone on web site) >> >> > That won't work. I can't add an MX record with periods in it. >> >> Of course you can. IN the GUI the periods are not normally need though. >> >> > Can you >> > give me the exact steps please? I am using Server 2000. Thank you. >> >> Use the GUI, right click on the zone, new MX, add the record with >> the value of the external server. >> >> It is literally that simple. >> >> Try it. If you get it wrong, delete it and try again. It will take you >> less >> than 3 minutes to get it right. >> >> -- >> Herb Martin, MCSE, MVPhttp://www.LearnQuick.Com >> (phone on web site)- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > That's not what I am asking. I have a zone called mydomain.com. In > that zone I have an MX record for smtp and it goes to my mail server. Change it to point to the NEW mail server. > That works no problem, you add an MX record, type SMTP and then put > the IP address of the mail server. Normally you put in the (server) NAME of the mail server not the IP. > The smtp gets automatically added > to my zone name to create smtp.mydomain.com Yes, so change that value from your old email server (IP) to your new one, the name. > Now what I am trying to do is change our mail domain, but not our zone > name and I do not want to add a new zone. You don't need to do so. You need to change the NAME of the server to reference the new server -- that name does NOT need to be within your zone. (This latter is almost always the case when ISPs supply the name servers.) > I need an mx record for > smtp.newdomain.com Actually you need the SAME MX recore "For YOUR DOMAIN" but the data or value of that server's name will be the new server. > so when people try to go to smtp.newdomain.com the > DNS server doesn't refer them to an outside IP address. I do not know > how to make the addition to the DNS for newdomain.com Where do you want them to be referred? Put that name in there. -- Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP http://www.LearnQuick.Com (phone on web site)

Re: Inside DNS Issue "Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin[ at ]nospam.WFTX.US> 5/31/2007 12:07:51 PM Read inline please. In news:1180456219.327849.266760[ at ]g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, amantica[ at ]gmail.com <amantica[ at ]gmail.com> typed: [Quoted Text] > We have DNS setup for our current domain and I have all the proper > entries so users get to my mail server via the internal ip instead of > the outside ip. > > For example: > ourdomain.com has entries for smtp.ourdomain.com as a mail exchanger > and a host record and they both go to my internal ip 192.168.x.x > > Our mail domain name is changing and it will not be same as the name > of our DNS domain. I need entries so smtp.newdomain.com gets > translated to our inside ips. How do I do that? > > Do I have to setup a new zone? Create a new forward lookup zone named smtp.newdomain.com, in that zone create a host "A"(Address) record, leave the name field blank, give it the IP of the mail server. On a side note- Just because you are changing e-mail domains does not mean you have to access the server by the new e-mail domain name. You can just as easily still access the server by using the old name. In fact, and even though you have not mentioned the MX record, regardless of which domain the MX record is in, the MX record should give the SMTP HELO name for the mail server name in the MX record like this: olddomain.com [ at ] MX 0 smtp.olddomain.com. -and- newdomain.com [ at ] MX 0 smtp.olddomain.com. -- Best regards, Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP] Hope This Helps =================================== When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so that others may learn and benefit from your issue, to respond directly to me remove the nospam. from my email address. =================================== http://www.lonestaramerica.com/ http://support.wftx.us/ http://message.wftx.us/ =================================== Use Outlook Express?... Get OE_Quotefix: It will strip signature out and more http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/ =================================== Keep a back up of your OE settings and folders with OEBackup: http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx ===================================

Re: Inside DNS Issue amantica[ at ]gmail.com 6/1/2007 6:35:59 PM On May 31, 8:07 am, "Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <a...[ at ]nospam.WFTX.US> wrote: [Quoted Text] > Read inline please. > > Innews:1180456219.327849.266760[ at ]g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, > amant...[ at ]gmail.com <amant...[ at ]gmail.com> typed: > > > We have DNS setup for our current domain and I have all the proper > > entries so users get to my mail server via the internal ip instead of > > the outside ip. > > > For example: > > ourdomain.com has entries for smtp.ourdomain.com as a mail exchanger > > and a host record and they both go to my internal ip 192.168.x.x > > > Our mail domain name is changing and it will not be same as the name > > of our DNS domain. I need entries so smtp.newdomain.com gets > > translated to our inside ips. How do I do that? > > > Do I have to setup a new zone? > > Create a new forward lookup zone named smtp.newdomain.com, in that zone > create a host "A"(Address) record, leave the name field blank, give it the > IP of the mail server. > > On a side note- Just because you are changing e-mail domains does not mean > you have to access the server by the new e-mail domain name. You can just as > easily still access the server by using the old name. In fact, and even > though you have not mentioned the MX record, regardless of which domain the > MX record is in, the MX record should give the SMTP HELO name for the mail > server name in the MX record like this: > olddomain.com > [ at ] MX 0 smtp.olddomain.com. > -and- > newdomain.com > [ at ] MX 0 smtp.olddomain.com. > > -- > Best regards, > Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP] > Hope This Helps > > =================================== > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" > via your newsreader so that others may learn and > benefit from your issue, to respond directly to > me remove the nospam. from my email address. > ===================================http://www.lonestaramerica.com/http://support.wftx.us/http://message.wftx.us/ > =================================== > Use Outlook Express?... Get OE_Quotefix: > It will strip signature out and morehttp://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/ > =================================== > Keep a back up of your OE settings and folders > with OEBackup:http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx > =================================== Thank you Kevin. That worked.