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DNS Scavenging question
"Jason W." <jasonwilliams74[ at ]gmail.com> 5/16/2007 8:23:04 PM
Have a couple of questions regarding DNS scavenging. It is something I
need to configure, but before I do so, have a few concerns and I am
not sure if scavenging will effect any of these.

1. We use static IP addressing. Does that cause any problem? Do I need
to make sure there are some additional items configured in TCP/IP
properties?

2. Unfortunately, we do have some Windows 98 machine computers on our
network (like 10...dont ask..I still don't get it). How will
scavenging affect these computers?

3. Will it have any affect on Linux and UNIX machines where we have
created records for these machines?

4. Lastly, I was going to use the default settings for the forward
zone (7 days and 7 days), would that be sufficient to get me going for
now?

I appreciate it.

Jason

Re: DNS Scavenging question
"Herb Martin" <news[ at ]learnquick.com> 5/16/2007 9:15:38 PM

"Jason W." <jasonwilliams74[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179346983.916883.267880[ at ]q23g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Have a couple of questions regarding DNS scavenging. It is something I
> need to configure, but before I do so, have a few concerns and I am
> not sure if scavenging will effect any of these.
>
> 1. We use static IP addressing. Does that cause any problem? Do I need
> to make sure there are some additional items configured in TCP/IP
> properties?

Then you don't need scavening at all. And it doesn't make much if any
sense.

> 2. Unfortunately, we do have some Windows 98 machine computers on our
> network (like 10...dont ask..I still don't get it). How will
> scavenging affect these computers?

It won't unless they use dynamic addresses OR you are (unnecessarily)
setting the Checkbox on static records which allows the record to be
scavenged.

> 3. Will it have any affect on Linux and UNIX machines where we have
> created records for these machines?

Same answer

> 4. Lastly, I was going to use the default settings for the forward
> zone (7 days and 7 days), would that be sufficient to get me going for
> now?

Why do you want scavenging with statis records?

What do you expect it to DO?

--
Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
http://www.LearnQuick.Com
(phone on web site)


Re: DNS Scavenging question
"Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbergson[ at ]allete_nospam.com> 5/17/2007 12:56:43 PM
Scavenging is for dynamic registration of dns records, will provide nothing
for any/all records for you.

--
Paul Bergson
MVP - Directory Services
MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT

http://www.pbbergs.com

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"Jason W." <jasonwilliams74[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179346983.916883.267880[ at ]q23g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Have a couple of questions regarding DNS scavenging. It is something I
> need to configure, but before I do so, have a few concerns and I am
> not sure if scavenging will effect any of these.
>
> 1. We use static IP addressing. Does that cause any problem? Do I need
> to make sure there are some additional items configured in TCP/IP
> properties?
>
> 2. Unfortunately, we do have some Windows 98 machine computers on our
> network (like 10...dont ask..I still don't get it). How will
> scavenging affect these computers?
>
> 3. Will it have any affect on Linux and UNIX machines where we have
> created records for these machines?
>
> 4. Lastly, I was going to use the default settings for the forward
> zone (7 days and 7 days), would that be sufficient to get me going for
> now?
>
> I appreciate it.
>
> Jason
>


Re: DNS Scavenging question
"Jason W." <jasonwilliams74[ at ]gmail.com> 5/17/2007 5:03:34 PM
Sounds like I don't need it then.


Re: DNS Scavenging question
"Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbergson[ at ]allete_nospam.com> 5/17/2007 6:44:12 PM
Nope, no value.

--
Paul Bergson
MVP - Directory Services
MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT

http://www.pbbergs.com

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"Jason W." <jasonwilliams74[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
> Sounds like I don't need it then.
>
>


Re: DNS Scavenging question
"Jason W." <jasonwilliams74[ at ]gmail.com> 5/23/2007 8:24:37 PM
I have been mulling over these for a couple of days, thinking about
this. I understand how scavenging works for dynamic registration. But,
how does it work when a setup is using 'static' ip addressing, which
can change frequently?

I am in the process of designing a cutover to DHCP, but in the
meantime, what happens to all those records that were created and once
used. For example, say I have a computer called 'mcdonalds' with a IP
of 1.2.3.4.
Now, say I get rid of the computer and reuse the IP address...what
happens then?

Cheers.

Re: DNS Scavenging question
"Herb Martin" <news[ at ]learnquick.com> 5/24/2007 1:56:44 AM

"Jason W." <jasonwilliams74[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179951877.371588.111680[ at ]a35g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
[Quoted Text]
>I have been mulling over these for a couple of days, thinking about
> this. I understand how scavenging works for dynamic registration. But,
> how does it work when a setup is using 'static' ip addressing, which
> can change frequently?

Usually is does NOT work for Static addresses.

Why would you (typically) WANT STATIC entries to be scavenged?

There is a manual setting you can invoke if you really do have a reason
to scavenge a manual address but that is seldom if ever helpful.


> I am in the process of designing a cutover to DHCP, but in the
> meantime, what happens to all those records that were created and once
> used. For example, say I have a computer called 'mcdonalds' with a IP
> of 1.2.3.4.
> Now, say I get rid of the computer and reuse the IP address...what
> happens then?
>
> Cheers.
>


Re: DNS Scavenging question
"Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbergson[ at ]allete_nospam.com> 5/24/2007 12:47:20 PM
If you think about a manual address and the work that goes into it, can you
imagine if you had 1000's or 10,000's of hosts that over the years were
manually entered and then all of a sudden scavenging started pruning them?
It would become unmanageable. I am unaware of the option to scavenge static
records, maybe Herb could point out where this option is.

Scavenging is designed for dynamic records, so that is how its use is
designed around.

--
Paul Bergson
MVP - Directory Services
MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT

http://www.pbbergs.com

Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Jason W." <jasonwilliams74[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179951877.371588.111680[ at ]a35g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
[Quoted Text]
>I have been mulling over these for a couple of days, thinking about
> this. I understand how scavenging works for dynamic registration. But,
> how does it work when a setup is using 'static' ip addressing, which
> can change frequently?
>
> I am in the process of designing a cutover to DHCP, but in the
> meantime, what happens to all those records that were created and once
> used. For example, say I have a computer called 'mcdonalds' with a IP
> of 1.2.3.4.
> Now, say I get rid of the computer and reuse the IP address...what
> happens then?
>
> Cheers.
>


Re: DNS Scavenging question
"Jason W." <jasonwilliams74[ at ]gmail.com> 5/24/2007 5:22:06 PM
Right, right. I understand what you guys are saying and how scavenging
works for dynamic records.

My question was, they have been using nothing but static IP addressing
for years here and computer names do change frequently. (They name a
computer after an employee. When the employee leaves, they wipe the
computer, rename it to the new employee.) So, you see there are
probably a lot of stale records out there.

I wasn't sure if there was a way to 'tidy' things up a bit.

the idea of going through this manually is....scary.

-Jason

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