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Conditional forwarding for existing zone?
Phillip.Strang[ at ]gmail.com 5/9/2007 3:05:57 PM
I have a client with a long established internal domain name of "US".

The domain name was setup many years ago (prior to the existance of
the top level .us domain). Consequently, we have a .us AD integrated
zone running on the network.

The obvious problem comes when a client needs to perform name
resolution for a host on the public TLD, the internal DNS server
doesn't find a matching entry (it's the SOA for .us internally). We
are trying to avoid going through a complete domain renaming process
if we can get around this issue with a DNS fix.

What I'd like to do is similiar to a conditional forward (but not
quite??) - any .us host names that cannot be resolved internally would
be forwarded out to the ISP for an attempted lookup.

Any ideas on how to accomplish this without breaking internal AD/DNS
would be much appreciated.

Re: Conditional forwarding for existing zone?
"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin[ at ]nospam.WFTX.US> 5/9/2007 5:46:11 PM
Read inline please.

In news:1178723157.650906.8730[ at ]e51g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,
Phillip.Strang[ at ]gmail.com <Phillip.Strang[ at ]gmail.com> typed:
[Quoted Text]
> I have a client with a long established internal domain name of "US".
>
> The domain name was setup many years ago (prior to the existance of
> the top level .us domain). Consequently, we have a .us AD integrated
> zone running on the network.
>
> The obvious problem comes when a client needs to perform name
> resolution for a host on the public TLD, the internal DNS server
> doesn't find a matching entry (it's the SOA for .us internally). We
> are trying to avoid going through a complete domain renaming process
> if we can get around this issue with a DNS fix.
>
> What I'd like to do is similiar to a conditional forward (but not
> quite??) - any .us host names that cannot be resolved internally would
> be forwarded out to the ISP for an attempted lookup.
>
> Any ideas on how to accomplish this without breaking internal AD/DNS
> would be much appreciated.

If the AD DNS name is us, you're stuck, unless you rename the domain. You
should probably do a rename or migration because of the other issues caused
by a single-label DNS name, but that's your decision to make.
DNS will not forward any name for which it should be authoritative for,
meaning it will not forward any name in the .us TLD tree that is not
specifically delegated.


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Re: Conditional forwarding for existing zone?
"Herb Martin" <news[ at ]learnquick.com> 5/9/2007 8:11:28 PM

<Phillip.Strang[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1178723157.650906.8730[ at ]e51g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
[Quoted Text]
>I have a client with a long established internal domain name of "US".

Single label domain names are a serious problem issue in AD/DNS for
Microsoft.

> The domain name was setup many years ago (prior to the existance of
> the top level .us domain). Consequently, we have a .us AD integrated
> zone running on the network.

Ugh. He can now resolve NOTHING in the US domain and there is
no good solution.


> The obvious problem comes when a client needs to perform name
> resolution for a host on the public TLD, the internal DNS server
> doesn't find a matching entry (it's the SOA for .us internally). We
> are trying to avoid going through a complete domain renaming process
> if we can get around this issue with a DNS fix.
>
> What I'd like to do is similiar to a conditional forward (but not
> quite??) - any .us host names that cannot be resolved internally would
> be forwarded out to the ISP for an attempted lookup.

Won't work that way, once you conditionally forward or otherwise
resolve US, you are done for it and ALL of its children.

YOu would need a list of EVERY child domain in US, and it would
have to be kept current (nearly impossible) to define every child
as either delegated (as the real .US does) or conditonally forwarded.

> Any ideas on how to accomplish this without breaking internal AD/DNS
> would be much appreciated.

Rename the domain. It's a problem anyway as a single label domain name.

You will first need to reach Win2003 Forest Functional Level. (All DCs
running 2003 in every domain of the forest.)


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