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How to configure Windows Server 2003 with DLink router?
Dave_R 6/6/2007 4:46:00 PM
Hi everyone,
This question has been asked before but mine is with a twist.
I have 3 computers running WinXP and a DLink router as gateway and DHCP
server.
Recently I installed Windows Server 2003 on 4th computer and configured as
PDC with DNS and DHCP servers. When I join one of the XP client to Domain I
get error something like cannot join domain<Domain name>, cannot register....

-----------------------------------------------------------------
The configurations:
domain name: DAVE.com
DLink Router:
IP address:192.168.0.1
DHCP IP range:192.168.0.100 to 192.168.0.150
DNS: 65.35.2.73 (ISP)

Server:w2k3
Static IP:192.168.0.10,192.168.2.10
Gateway:192.168.0.1
DNS:192.168.0.10

DNS:
w2k3/Forward Lookup Zones
DAVE.com
(same as parent) SOA w2k3.DAVE.com
(same as parent) NS w2k3.DAVE.com
(same as parent) A 192.168.0.10
(same as parent) A 192.168.2.10

DHCP:
w2k3.DAVE.com[192.168.0.10]
Scope [192.168.2.0] DAVE.com (I want client to have 192.168.2.xxx)
Address pool:192.168.2.100 to 192.168.2.150
Scope Options:
003 Router 192.168.0.1
006 DNS Servers 192.168.0.10
015 DNS Domain Name DAVE.com

Server Options:
same as Scope Options as above
------------------------------------------------------------------
I dont want to disable DHCP in DLink router.
Is there an alternate way to configure DHCP and DNS server on Windows Server
2003 with gateway as DLink router?

Thanks for your suggestions.



Re: How to configure Windows Server 2003 with DLink router?
"Herb Martin" <news[ at ]learnquick.com> 6/6/2007 5:06:29 PM

"Dave_R" <DaveR[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:58D4A90E-3E2F-4221-995A-89F177D2D931[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Hi everyone,

> I dont want to disable DHCP in DLink router.

You must either configure the DHCP server on the router correctly or
disable it (and use the Windows Server DHCP) -- some (models) of
small router can be fully configured (correctly) and some cannot.

> Is there an alternate way to configure DHCP and DNS server on Windows
> Server
> 2003 with gateway as DLink router?

Of course you can switch to the DHCP server on the Windows Server --
it is fully configurable and will allow you to configure everything you need
for a Windows client.

All internal DNS Clients must use ONLY the internal DNS server
which can resolve you domain DNS zone.

Typically this internal DNS server will forward to the router DNS
server.

--
Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
http://www.LearnQuick.Com
(phone on web site)


Re: How to configure Windows Server 2003 with DLink router?
"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin[ at ]nospam.WFTX.US> 6/6/2007 6:13:49 PM
Read inline please.

In news:58D4A90E-3E2F-4221-995A-89F177D2D931[ at ]microsoft.com,
Dave_R <DaveR[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
[Quoted Text]
> Hi everyone,
> This question has been asked before but mine is with a twist.
> I have 3 computers running WinXP and a DLink router as gateway and
> DHCP server.
> Recently I installed Windows Server 2003 on 4th computer and
> configured as PDC with DNS and DHCP servers. When I join one of the
> XP client to Domain I get error something like cannot join
> domain<Domain name>, cannot register....
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> The configurations:
> domain name: DAVE.com
> DLink Router:
> IP address:192.168.0.1
> DHCP IP range:192.168.0.100 to 192.168.0.150
> DNS: 65.35.2.73 (ISP)
>
> Server:w2k3
> Static IP:192.168.0.10,192.168.2.10
> Gateway:192.168.0.1
> DNS:192.168.0.10
>
> DNS:
> w2k3/Forward Lookup Zones
> DAVE.com
> (same as parent) SOA w2k3.DAVE.com
> (same as parent) NS w2k3.DAVE.com
> (same as parent) A 192.168.0.10
> (same as parent) A 192.168.2.10
>
> DHCP:
> w2k3.DAVE.com[192.168.0.10]
> Scope [192.168.2.0] DAVE.com (I want client to have 192.168.2.xxx)
> Address pool:192.168.2.100 to 192.168.2.150
> Scope Options:
> 003 Router 192.168.0.1
> 006 DNS Servers 192.168.0.10
> 015 DNS Domain Name DAVE.com
>
> Server Options:
> same as Scope Options as above
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> I dont want to disable DHCP in DLink router.
> Is there an alternate way to configure DHCP and DNS server on Windows
> Server 2003 with gateway as DLink router?
>
> Thanks for your suggestions.

What is your Subnet Mask?


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Re: How to configure Windows Server 2003 with DLink router?
Dave_R 6/8/2007 3:09:00 AM
255.255.255.0

"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Read inline please.
>
> In news:58D4A90E-3E2F-4221-995A-89F177D2D931[ at ]microsoft.com,
> Dave_R <DaveR[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
> > Hi everyone,
> > This question has been asked before but mine is with a twist.
> > I have 3 computers running WinXP and a DLink router as gateway and
> > DHCP server.
> > Recently I installed Windows Server 2003 on 4th computer and
> > configured as PDC with DNS and DHCP servers. When I join one of the
> > XP client to Domain I get error something like cannot join
> > domain<Domain name>, cannot register....
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > The configurations:
> > domain name: DAVE.com
> > DLink Router:
> > IP address:192.168.0.1
> > DHCP IP range:192.168.0.100 to 192.168.0.150
> > DNS: 65.35.2.73 (ISP)
> >
> > Server:w2k3
> > Static IP:192.168.0.10,192.168.2.10
> > Gateway:192.168.0.1
> > DNS:192.168.0.10
> >
> > DNS:
> > w2k3/Forward Lookup Zones
> > DAVE.com
> > (same as parent) SOA w2k3.DAVE.com
> > (same as parent) NS w2k3.DAVE.com
> > (same as parent) A 192.168.0.10
> > (same as parent) A 192.168.2.10
> >
> > DHCP:
> > w2k3.DAVE.com[192.168.0.10]
> > Scope [192.168.2.0] DAVE.com (I want client to have 192.168.2.xxx)
> > Address pool:192.168.2.100 to 192.168.2.150
> > Scope Options:
> > 003 Router 192.168.0.1
> > 006 DNS Servers 192.168.0.10
> > 015 DNS Domain Name DAVE.com
> >
> > Server Options:
> > same as Scope Options as above
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > I dont want to disable DHCP in DLink router.
> > Is there an alternate way to configure DHCP and DNS server on Windows
> > Server 2003 with gateway as DLink router?
> >
> > Thanks for your suggestions.
>
> What is your Subnet Mask?
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
> Hope This Helps
>
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Re: How to configure Windows Server 2003 with DLink router?
"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin[ at ]nospam.WFTX.US> 6/8/2007 3:35:13 AM
Read inline please.

In news:19910CFC-C6B3-4793-A156-BB5D97C166C3[ at ]microsoft.com,
Dave_R <DaveR[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
[Quoted Text]
> 255.255.255.0

If your subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 and you have a single flat network with
a single router, you can't have 192.168.2.x on the clients and 192.168.0.x
on the server because they are on two different subnets, you would have to
use one IP range or the other, or use a subnet mask of 255.255.0.0. Which
would not be advisable if you plan future expansion to multiple sites,
because this one network would have 65534 IP addresses in it.


--
Best regards,
Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
Hope This Helps

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Re: How to configure Windows Server 2003 with DLink router?
Dave_R 6/8/2007 4:04:01 PM
I want to practice managing Server at home before implementing at work.
I dont want to disable DLink Router as it is used for other 2 computers.

Well then I changed my configuration. I added second NIC card for intranet.
_____________________________________________________
NIC1:
IP address:192.168.0.10
Subnet mask:255.255.255.0
Gateway:192.168.0.1 (DLink Router)
DNS Server:192.168.0.10

NIC2:
IP address:192.168.2.10
Subnet mask:255.255.255.0
Gateway: blank
DNS Server:192.168.2.10

DC name:w2k3
DNS Forward lookup zones:
DAVE.com (Domain name)
(same as parent) SOA w2k3.DAVE.com
(same as parent) NS w2k3.DAVE.com
(same as parent) A 192.168.0.10
(same as parent) A 192.168.2.10
w2k3 A 192.168.0.10
w2k3 A 192.168.2.10

DHCP:
w2k3.DAVE.com[192.168.0.10]
Scope [192.168.2.0] DAVE.com (I want client to have 192.168.2.xxx)
Address pool:192.168.2.100 to 192.168.2.150
Scope Options:
003 Router 192.168.0.1
006 DNS Servers 192.168.0.10
015 DNS Domain Name DAVE.com

Server Options:
same as Scope Options as above
____________________________________________________
XP Dynamic configuration:
IP address:192.168.2.100
Subnet mask:255.255.255.0
Gateway:192.168.0.1
DNS Server:192.168.2.10

Internet is not accessible from client - "Page not found" error and
When joining Domain I still get error can't find domain can't register...
Your help is appreciated

"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Read inline please.
>
> In news:19910CFC-C6B3-4793-A156-BB5D97C166C3[ at ]microsoft.com,
> Dave_R <DaveR[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
> > 255.255.255.0
>
> If your subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 and you have a single flat network with
> a single router, you can't have 192.168.2.x on the clients and 192.168.0.x
> on the server because they are on two different subnets, you would have to
> use one IP range or the other, or use a subnet mask of 255.255.0.0. Which
> would not be advisable if you plan future expansion to multiple sites,
> because this one network would have 65534 IP addresses in it.
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
> Hope This Helps
>
> ===================================
> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group"
> via your newsreader so that others may learn and
> benefit from your issue, to respond directly to
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>
>
>
Re: How to configure Windows Server 2003 with DLink router?
Dave_R 6/8/2007 4:30:01 PM
Oh I forgot to mention I created Reverse Lookup zone also 192.168.2.x

"Dave_R" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> I want to practice managing Server at home before implementing at work.
> I dont want to disable DLink Router as it is used for other 2 computers.
>
> Well then I changed my configuration. I added second NIC card for intranet.
> _____________________________________________________
> NIC1:
> IP address:192.168.0.10
> Subnet mask:255.255.255.0
> Gateway:192.168.0.1 (DLink Router)
> DNS Server:192.168.0.10
>
> NIC2:
> IP address:192.168.2.10
> Subnet mask:255.255.255.0
> Gateway: blank
> DNS Server:192.168.2.10
>
> DC name:w2k3
> DNS Forward lookup zones:
> DAVE.com (Domain name)
> (same as parent) SOA w2k3.DAVE.com
> (same as parent) NS w2k3.DAVE.com
> (same as parent) A 192.168.0.10
> (same as parent) A 192.168.2.10
> w2k3 A 192.168.0.10
> w2k3 A 192.168.2.10
>
> DHCP:
> w2k3.DAVE.com[192.168.0.10]
> Scope [192.168.2.0] DAVE.com (I want client to have 192.168.2.xxx)
> Address pool:192.168.2.100 to 192.168.2.150
> Scope Options:
> 003 Router 192.168.0.1
> 006 DNS Servers 192.168.0.10
> 015 DNS Domain Name DAVE.com
>
> Server Options:
> same as Scope Options as above
> ____________________________________________________
> XP Dynamic configuration:
> IP address:192.168.2.100
> Subnet mask:255.255.255.0
> Gateway:192.168.0.1
> DNS Server:192.168.2.10
>
> Internet is not accessible from client - "Page not found" error and
> When joining Domain I still get error can't find domain can't register...
> Your help is appreciated
>
> "Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > Read inline please.
> >
> > In news:19910CFC-C6B3-4793-A156-BB5D97C166C3[ at ]microsoft.com,
> > Dave_R <DaveR[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
> > > 255.255.255.0
> >
> > If your subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 and you have a single flat network with
> > a single router, you can't have 192.168.2.x on the clients and 192.168.0.x
> > on the server because they are on two different subnets, you would have to
> > use one IP range or the other, or use a subnet mask of 255.255.0.0. Which
> > would not be advisable if you plan future expansion to multiple sites,
> > because this one network would have 65534 IP addresses in it.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
> > Hope This Helps
> >
> > ===================================
> > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group"
> > via your newsreader so that others may learn and
> > benefit from your issue, to respond directly to
> > me remove the nospam. from my email address.
> > ===================================
> > http://www.lonestaramerica.com/
> > http://support.wftx.us/
> > http://message.wftx.us/
> > ===================================
> > Use Outlook Express?... Get OE_Quotefix:
> > It will strip signature out and more
> > http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
> > ===================================
> > Keep a back up of your OE settings and folders
> > with OEBackup:
> > http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
> > ===================================
> >
> >
> >
Re: How to configure Windows Server 2003 with DLink router?
"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin[ at ]nospam.WFTX.US> 6/8/2007 6:39:31 PM
Read inline please.

In news:07634A0C-68AE-45A2-94B5-8388C05B026A[ at ]microsoft.com,
Dave_R <DaveR[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
[Quoted Text]
> I want to practice managing Server at home before implementing at
> work.
> I dont want to disable DLink Router as it is used for other 2
> computers.
>
> Well then I changed my configuration. I added second NIC card for
> intranet. _____________________________________________________
> NIC1:
> IP address:192.168.0.10
> Subnet mask:255.255.255.0
> Gateway:192.168.0.1 (DLink Router)
> DNS Server:192.168.0.10
>
> NIC2:
> IP address:192.168.2.10
> Subnet mask:255.255.255.0
> Gateway: blank
> DNS Server:192.168.2.10
>
> DC name:w2k3
> DNS Forward lookup zones:
> DAVE.com (Domain name)
> (same as parent) SOA w2k3.DAVE.com
> (same as parent) NS w2k3.DAVE.com
> (same as parent) A 192.168.0.10
> (same as parent) A 192.168.2.10
> w2k3 A 192.168.0.10
> w2k3 A 192.168.2.10
>
> DHCP:
> w2k3.DAVE.com[192.168.0.10]
> Scope [192.168.2.0] DAVE.com (I want client to have 192.168.2.xxx)
> Address pool:192.168.2.100 to 192.168.2.150
> Scope Options:
> 003 Router 192.168.0.1
> 006 DNS Servers 192.168.0.10
> 015 DNS Domain Name DAVE.com
>
> Server Options:
> same as Scope Options as above
> ____________________________________________________
> XP Dynamic configuration:
> IP address:192.168.2.100
> Subnet mask:255.255.255.0
> Gateway:192.168.0.1
> DNS Server:192.168.2.10
>
> Internet is not accessible from client - "Page not found" error and
> When joining Domain I still get error can't find domain can't
> register... Your help is appreciated

As I said, this won't work, the gateway is NOT on the same subnet as the IP
address. You're trying to complicate a simple configuration.

Get rid of the second NIC and subnet, Set the server's IP for DNS and the
router as the gateway, with all IP addresses on the same subnet as the
gateway. On a NIC with 192.168.0.x and a Subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 and
you try to ping another machine using 192.168.2.x with a mask of
255.255.255.0 the two IPs are out of range and you'll get Destination host
unreachable.

--
Best regards,
Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
Hope This Helps

===================================
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benefit from your issue, to respond directly to
me remove the nospam. from my email address.
===================================
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http://support.wftx.us/
http://message.wftx.us/
===================================
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It will strip signature out and more
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
===================================
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