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Confused about host records with DNS
ckramer7070[ at ]gmail.com 6/6/2007 8:41:46 PM
We have somewhat of a unique situtation:

We have a website hosted outside using a specific domain and IP
address.
We are using an outside email host and exchange (internal server) with
a pop3/smpt connector to bring mail in for most users (not all).
And we have a static IP address assigned by our ISP which we use this
address to connect to RWW and OWA via the 66.x.x.x/remote or /exchange
switch.

I am confused as to how I go about assigning a Name (Host A or MX
record) to our current static IP address to access the exchange server
by configuring RPC over HTTP. I would like to make the name
mail1.domainname.com but our domainname.com is hosted by a different
company on a different IP. Instructions provided by RWW are posted
below, and I do have a certificate setup for the mail1.domainname.com.

<
Configure the computer for RPC over HTTP
Click Start, and then click Control Panel.
If you are viewing Control Panel in the default Category view, switch
to Classic view, and then double-click Mail.
If you are viewing Control Panel in Classic view, double-click Mail.
In the Mail Setup dialog box, click E-mail accounts, click View or
change existing e-mail accounts, and then click Next.
In the E-mail accounts dialog box, click Microsoft Exchange Server,
and then click Change.
In the Microsoft Exchange Server box, type the local name of the
Exchange server:
server1.domain.local


In the User Name box, type the user name that you use to log on to the
Remote Web Workplace. Do not click Check Name.

In the Exchange Server settings page, click More Settings.
On the Connection tab, under Exchange over the Internet, select
Connect to my Exchange mailbox using HTTP, and then click Exchange
Proxy Settings. The Exchange Proxy Settings dialog box appears.
Under Use this URL to connect to my proxy server for Exchange, type
the following URL:
mail1.domain.com

Select Connect using SSL only, and then select Mutually authenticate
the session when connecting with SSL.
In the Principal name for proxy server box, type the following text:
msstd:mail1.domain.com

Select On slow networks, connect using HTTP first, then connect using
TCP/IP.
Under Proxy authentication settings, select Basic Authentication.
Click OK, and then click OK again. Click Next, and then click Finish.
Click Close.
In the Mail dialog box, if Always use this profile is selected, choose
the newly configured profile.
Open Outlook and type your Windows Small Business Server user name (in
the format DOMAIN\user name) and password. You can now work with your
Outlook mailbox.
[Quoted Text]
>

I have contacted our ISP about this - they tell me our DNS is hosted
by another company and they have to set it up, I contact our website
host and they tell me the IP is not the same as our WAN (obviously) so
they cannot add a name, and Dell support (Server) tells me the outside
IP needs to have the record added and it cannot be done internally.
Either it cant be done or one of these providers is not understanding
what I'm trying to do. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Chad

Re: Confused about host records with DNS
"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin[ at ]nospam.WFTX.US> 6/7/2007 12:51:54 PM

In news:1181162506.687165.258680[ at ]i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
ckramer7070[ at ]gmail.com <ckramer7070[ at ]gmail.com> typed:
[Quoted Text]
> We have somewhat of a unique situtation:
>
> We have a website hosted outside using a specific domain and IP
> address.
> We are using an outside email host and exchange (internal server) with
> a pop3/smpt connector to bring mail in for most users (not all).
> And we have a static IP address assigned by our ISP which we use this
> address to connect to RWW and OWA via the 66.x.x.x/remote or /exchange
> switch.
>
> I am confused as to how I go about assigning a Name (Host A or MX
> record) to our current static IP address to access the exchange server
> by configuring RPC over HTTP. I would like to make the name
> mail1.domainname.com but our domainname.com is hosted by a different
> company on a different IP. Instructions provided by RWW are posted
> below, and I do have a certificate setup for the mail1.domainname.com.
>
> <
> Configure the computer for RPC over HTTP
> Click Start, and then click Control Panel.
> If you are viewing Control Panel in the default Category view, switch
> to Classic view, and then double-click Mail.
> If you are viewing Control Panel in Classic view, double-click Mail.
> In the Mail Setup dialog box, click E-mail accounts, click View or
> change existing e-mail accounts, and then click Next.
> In the E-mail accounts dialog box, click Microsoft Exchange Server,
> and then click Change.
> In the Microsoft Exchange Server box, type the local name of the
> Exchange server:
> server1.domain.local
>
>
> In the User Name box, type the user name that you use to log on to the
> Remote Web Workplace. Do not click Check Name.
>
> In the Exchange Server settings page, click More Settings.
> On the Connection tab, under Exchange over the Internet, select
> Connect to my Exchange mailbox using HTTP, and then click Exchange
> Proxy Settings. The Exchange Proxy Settings dialog box appears.
> Under Use this URL to connect to my proxy server for Exchange, type
> the following URL:
> mail1.domain.com
>
> Select Connect using SSL only, and then select Mutually authenticate
> the session when connecting with SSL.
> In the Principal name for proxy server box, type the following text:
> msstd:mail1.domain.com
>
> Select On slow networks, connect using HTTP first, then connect using
> TCP/IP.
> Under Proxy authentication settings, select Basic Authentication.
> Click OK, and then click OK again. Click Next, and then click Finish.
> Click Close.
> In the Mail dialog box, if Always use this profile is selected, choose
> the newly configured profile.
> Open Outlook and type your Windows Small Business Server user name (in
> the format DOMAIN\user name) and password. You can now work with your
> Outlook mailbox.
>>
>
> I have contacted our ISP about this - they tell me our DNS is hosted
> by another company and they have to set it up, I contact our website
> host and they tell me the IP is not the same as our WAN (obviously) so
> they cannot add a name, and Dell support (Server) tells me the outside
> IP needs to have the record added and it cannot be done internally.
> Either it cant be done or one of these providers is not understanding
> what I'm trying to do. Any suggestions?

You need to contact you DNS hosting provider (may or may not be the same as
your website hosting provider) for your public domain name, and have an A
record added named mail1.domainname.com. You can use nslookup to find the
external DNS servers, the name you glean from this can tell you who to
contact.
nslookup -qtype=ns <publicdomainname> <ISPsDNS>

Also, if you are going to connect using Outlook RPC over HTTPS, you will
need an SSL certificate, you can purchase one from GoDaddy for about $20.
Make sure you have someone that knows how to install one of these, it is not
difficult, but there are several steps that must be followed exactly.
GoDaddy has fairly good instructions, but it takes a basic knowledge of IIS.



--
Best regards,
Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
Hope This Helps

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Re: Confused about host records with DNS
ckramer7070[ at ]gmail.com 6/7/2007 9:52:19 PM
On Jun 7, 8:51 am, "Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]"
<a...[ at ]nospam.WFTX.US> wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> Innews:1181162506.687165.258680[ at ]i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
> ckramer7...[ at ]gmail.com <ckramer7...[ at ]gmail.com> typed:
>
>
>
> > We have somewhat of a unique situtation:
>
> > We have a website hosted outside using a specific domain and IP
> > address.
> > We are using an outside email host and exchange (internal server) with
> > a pop3/smpt connector to bring mail in for most users (not all).
> > And we have a static IP address assigned by our ISP which we use this
> > address to connect to RWW and OWA via the 66.x.x.x/remote or /exchange
> > switch.
>
> > I am confused as to how I go about assigning a Name (Host A or MX
> > record) to our current static IP address to access the exchange server
> > by configuring RPC over HTTP. I would like to make the name
> > mail1.domainname.com but our domainname.com is hosted by a different
> > company on a different IP. Instructions provided by RWW are posted
> > below, and I do have a certificate setup for the mail1.domainname.com.
>
> > <
> > Configure the computer for RPC over HTTP
> > Click Start, and then click Control Panel.
> > If you are viewing Control Panel in the default Category view, switch
> > to Classic view, and then double-click Mail.
> > If you are viewing Control Panel in Classic view, double-click Mail.
> > In the Mail Setup dialog box, click E-mail accounts, click View or
> > change existing e-mail accounts, and then click Next.
> > In the E-mail accounts dialog box, click Microsoft Exchange Server,
> > and then click Change.
> > In the Microsoft Exchange Server box, type the local name of the
> > Exchange server:
> > server1.domain.local
>
> > In the User Name box, type the user name that you use to log on to the
> > Remote Web Workplace. Do not click Check Name.
>
> > In the Exchange Server settings page, click More Settings.
> > On the Connection tab, under Exchange over the Internet, select
> > Connect to my Exchange mailbox using HTTP, and then click Exchange
> > Proxy Settings. The Exchange Proxy Settings dialog box appears.
> > Under Use this URL to connect to my proxy server for Exchange, type
> > the following URL:
> > mail1.domain.com
>
> > Select Connect using SSL only, and then select Mutually authenticate
> > the session when connecting with SSL.
> > In the Principal name for proxy server box, type the following text:
> > msstd:mail1.domain.com
>
> > Select On slow networks, connect using HTTP first, then connect using
> > TCP/IP.
> > Under Proxy authentication settings, select Basic Authentication.
> > Click OK, and then click OK again. Click Next, and then click Finish.
> > Click Close.
> > In the Mail dialog box, if Always use this profile is selected, choose
> > the newly configured profile.
> > Open Outlook and type your Windows Small Business Server user name (in
> > the format DOMAIN\user name) and password. You can now work with your
> > Outlook mailbox.
>
> > I have contacted our ISP about this - they tell me our DNS is hosted
> > by another company and they have to set it up, I contact our website
> > host and they tell me the IP is not the same as our WAN (obviously) so
> > they cannot add a name, and Dell support (Server) tells me the outside
> > IP needs to have the record added and it cannot be done internally.
> > Either it cant be done or one of these providers is not understanding
> > what I'm trying to do. Any suggestions?
>
> You need to contact you DNS hosting provider (may or may not be the same as
> your website hosting provider) for your public domain name, and have an A
> record added named mail1.domainname.com. You can use nslookup to find the
> external DNS servers, the name you glean from this can tell you who to
> contact.
> nslookup -qtype=ns <publicdomainname> <ISPsDNS>
>
> Also, if you are going to connect using Outlook RPC over HTTPS, you will
> need an SSL certificate, you can purchase one from GoDaddy for about $20.
> Make sure you have someone that knows how to install one of these, it is not
> difficult, but there are several steps that must be followed exactly.
> GoDaddy has fairly good instructions, but it takes a basic knowledge of IIS.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
> Hope This Helps
>
> ===================================
> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group"
> via your newsreader so that others may learn and
> benefit from your issue, to respond directly to
> me remove the nospam. from my email address.
> ===================================http://www.lonestaramerica.com/http://support.wftx.us/http://message.wftx.us/
> ===================================
> Use Outlook Express?... Get OE_Quotefix:
> It will strip signature out and morehttp://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
> ===================================
> Keep a back up of your OE settings and folders
> with OEBackup:http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
> ===================================

Thanks for getting back to me Kevin, I think we are going to do some
restructuring for our hosting services. I would like to have
everything coming from one source to make configuration easier.
Depending on who we go with they should allow me to add records to the
DNS which I cannot do with our current host without multiple requests
(which doesn't get done anyway). We are looking at 1 & 1 for hosting
services, have you had any experience with this company?

Thanks again,

Chad

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