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DNS Server & Zones in another domain?
Claude Lachapelle 5/7/2007 5:58:01 PM
We are migrating 3 domains into a single one, that include network services
too.

Actually, everything is in place in the destination domain (DNS, DHCP &
WINS) and workstations in the others domains to be migrated are already
configured to uses new network services.

Even reverse lookup zones are already ONLY defined in the destination
domain, and this is working perfectly, since others domains workstations are
registrering themselves correctly into them.

My question is, does we can configure forward lookup zones in the
destination domain, active directory integrated, for those domains like for
reverse lookup zones, and this way eliminate the needs of having zones
transfers between domains (as a secondary zones into the destination domains)?

If this is possible, DNS servers into those domain could be decomissioned too?

Thanks.

Claude Lachapelle
Systems Administrator, MCSE


RE: DNS Server & Zones in another domain?
Claude Lachapelle 5/7/2007 6:20:05 PM
And what about SRV records? Does they will still register themselves as name
server into the corresponding zones?

NOTE: Trusts relationships are established between all domains.

"Claude Lachapelle" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> We are migrating 3 domains into a single one, that include network services
> too.
>
> Actually, everything is in place in the destination domain (DNS, DHCP &
> WINS) and workstations in the others domains to be migrated are already
> configured to uses new network services.
>
> Even reverse lookup zones are already ONLY defined in the destination
> domain, and this is working perfectly, since others domains workstations are
> registrering themselves correctly into them.
>
> My question is, does we can configure forward lookup zones in the
> destination domain, active directory integrated, for those domains like for
> reverse lookup zones, and this way eliminate the needs of having zones
> transfers between domains (as a secondary zones into the destination domains)?
>
> If this is possible, DNS servers into those domain could be decomissioned too?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Claude Lachapelle
> Systems Administrator, MCSE
>
>
Re: DNS Server & Zones in another domain?
"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin[ at ]nospam.WFTX.US> 5/7/2007 7:05:01 PM
Read inline please.

In news:8A88F437-F56D-4529-879B-5835FBE4DF68[ at ]microsoft.com,
Claude Lachapelle <ClaudeLachapelle[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
[Quoted Text]
> We are migrating 3 domains into a single one, that include network
> services too.
>
> Actually, everything is in place in the destination domain (DNS, DHCP
> &
> WINS) and workstations in the others domains to be migrated are
> already configured to uses new network services.
>
> Even reverse lookup zones are already ONLY defined in the destination
> domain, and this is working perfectly, since others domains
> workstations are registrering themselves correctly into them.
>
> My question is, does we can configure forward lookup zones in the
> destination domain, active directory integrated, for those domains
> like for reverse lookup zones, and this way eliminate the needs of
> having zones transfers between domains (as a secondary zones into the
> destination domains)?

You can't have zone transfers between zones of different domains, in other
words, you cannot transfer records from domain1.com to domain2.com using
zone transfers.

>
> If this is possible, DNS servers into those domain could be
> decomissioned too?

If you are asking about DNS servers for Active Directory domains, as long as
there is even one domain controller for an AD domain, it will need a DNS
server hosting a zone for its domain name.


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Re: DNS Server & Zones in another domain?
"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin[ at ]nospam.WFTX.US> 5/7/2007 7:09:16 PM
Read inline please.

In news:D0A0269F-1EAC-4BCD-BB71-8406CBA4F1AF[ at ]microsoft.com,
Claude Lachapelle <ClaudeLachapelle[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
[Quoted Text]
> And what about SRV records? Does they will still register themselves
> as name server into the corresponding zones?
>
> NOTE: Trusts relationships are established between all domains.

Trust relationships have nothing to do with SRV registrations, other that
the fact that when you create a trust, a trusted domain's DC must make its
SRV registrations available to a trusting DC in trusting domain. But neither
of the DCs add any type of record to a trusted domain zone.



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Re: DNS Server & Zones in another domain?
Claude Lachapelle 5/7/2007 9:08:01 PM
Sorry I forgot to mention that those others domain are child of the master
domain, where they will be migrated. This said, that make more sense having
them as a secondary zones into the root domain.

Now, if I'm able to host those child domains zones as AD integrated into the
root domain instead of transferring them as secondary zones, DNS servers into
this domain will be useless?

Thanks.

"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Read inline please.
>
> In news:8A88F437-F56D-4529-879B-5835FBE4DF68[ at ]microsoft.com,
> Claude Lachapelle <ClaudeLachapelle[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
> > We are migrating 3 domains into a single one, that include network
> > services too.
> >
> > Actually, everything is in place in the destination domain (DNS, DHCP
> > &
> > WINS) and workstations in the others domains to be migrated are
> > already configured to uses new network services.
> >
> > Even reverse lookup zones are already ONLY defined in the destination
> > domain, and this is working perfectly, since others domains
> > workstations are registrering themselves correctly into them.
> >
> > My question is, does we can configure forward lookup zones in the
> > destination domain, active directory integrated, for those domains
> > like for reverse lookup zones, and this way eliminate the needs of
> > having zones transfers between domains (as a secondary zones into the
> > destination domains)?
>
> You can't have zone transfers between zones of different domains, in other
> words, you cannot transfer records from domain1.com to domain2.com using
> zone transfers.
>
> >
> > If this is possible, DNS servers into those domain could be
> > decomissioned too?
>
> If you are asking about DNS servers for Active Directory domains, as long as
> there is even one domain controller for an AD domain, it will need a DNS
> server hosting a zone for its domain name.
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
> Hope This Helps
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Re: DNS Server & Zones in another domain?
"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin[ at ]nospam.WFTX.US> 5/8/2007 12:46:28 AM
Read inline please.

In news:1D02225E-FCDB-453E-A061-5AB2E2039043[ at ]microsoft.com,
Claude Lachapelle <ClaudeLachapelle[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
[Quoted Text]
> Sorry I forgot to mention that those others domain are child of the
> master domain, where they will be migrated. This said, that make more
> sense having them as a secondary zones into the root domain.

Whoa here! You need to start again from the top and tell exactly what you
are trying to achieve here, it's a very important fact to leave out when you
start talking about migrating domains with the intent of decommissioning
domains and migrating the users, especially if you are doing this to domains
that have a parent child relationship. Migrating users from a child domain
to a parent domain with the intent of removing the child domain can be done,
if it's the other way around, migrating users from the parent to the child
and removing the parent is not possible.

>
> Now, if I'm able to host those child domains zones as AD integrated
> into the root domain instead of transferring them as secondary zones,
> DNS servers into this domain will be useless?
>

You can host child zones on parent DCs or host parent zones on child DCs is
OK so long as it is just DNS you are migrating. In fact, if these are all
Win2k3 DCs, this can be done by just moving the zones from one replication
partition to another.
Zones on child DCs can be replicated to the parent DCs by moving it to the
ForestDNSZones replication partition, which replicates to all Win2k3 DCs in
the Forest.
Zones that are in the ForestDNSZones can be moved to the DomainDNSZones
partition and depending on which DC you are connected to when you move the
zone, will depend on which DCs the zones will replicate to.


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