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I don ot have clue how to do this.
I am hosting my site, and it is up and running fine, I have it listed with
the registra.
Now I want to start my own nameserver "ns1 and ns2" can some one tell me
almost step-by-step how i add the name server to my dns, keeping in mind that
I only have one computer to host all 3 things.
I would like any help that I can get, PLEASE
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"Jed Davis" <Jed Davis[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:00D64820-6055-4B7A-A8E7-2FBF4A1E993F[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] >I don ot have clue how to do this.
>
> I am hosting my site, and it is up and running fine, I have it listed
> with
> the registra.
>
> Now I want to start my own nameserver "ns1 and ns2" can some one tell me
> almost step-by-step how i add the name server to my dns, keeping in mind
> that
> I only have one computer to host all 3 things.
You really should NOT be running your own PUBLIC DNS server --
you paid the REGISTRAR for that service (in almost all modern) cases
so let them do it.
Public DNS belongs at the REGISTRAR for almost all small companies.
> I would like any help that I can get, PLEASE
But you could also just give the registrar two different names for the same
IP even though that is a BAD practice.
--
Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
http://www.LearnQuick.Com
(phone on web site)
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Also, if your registrar charges extra for you to edit your DNS entries
(although I can't think of any that do) you can use a service such as
ZoneEdit that provides a few DNS zones with reasonable bandwidth for free.
"Herb Martin" <news[ at ]learnquick.com> wrote in message
news:e6FmnrioHHA.3952[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > > "Jed Davis" <Jed Davis[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:00D64820-6055-4B7A-A8E7-2FBF4A1E993F[ at ]microsoft.com... >>I don ot have clue how to do this. >> >> I am hosting my site, and it is up and running fine, I have it listed >> with >> the registra. >> >> Now I want to start my own nameserver "ns1 and ns2" can some one tell me >> almost step-by-step how i add the name server to my dns, keeping in mind >> that >> I only have one computer to host all 3 things. > > You really should NOT be running your own PUBLIC DNS server -- > you paid the REGISTRAR for that service (in almost all modern) cases > so let them do it. > > Public DNS belongs at the REGISTRAR for almost all small companies. > >> I would like any help that I can get, PLEASE > > But you could also just give the registrar two different names for the > same > IP even though that is a BAD practice. > > -- > Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP > http://www.LearnQuick.Com> (phone on web site)
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"Michael Dragone" <no.e-mail=less_spam> wrote in message
news:D1C787D0-5D92-48E6-A4A3-E88D8F88342D[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Also, if your registrar charges extra for you to edit your DNS entries
> (although I can't think of any that do) you can use a service such as
> ZoneEdit that provides a few DNS zones with reasonable bandwidth for free.
I don't know of any like that and it makes no real sense.
There are however some (overseas, non-US) which don't provide DNS
services (or didn't a couple of years ago.)
--
Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
http://www.LearnQuick.Com
(phone on web site)
> "Herb Martin" <news[ at ]learnquick.com> wrote in message
> news:e6FmnrioHHA.3952[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Jed Davis" <Jed Davis[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:00D64820-6055-4B7A-A8E7-2FBF4A1E993F[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>>I don ot have clue how to do this.
>>>
>>> I am hosting my site, and it is up and running fine, I have it listed
>>> with
>>> the registra.
>>>
>>> Now I want to start my own nameserver "ns1 and ns2" can some one tell me
>>> almost step-by-step how i add the name server to my dns, keeping in mind
>>> that
>>> I only have one computer to host all 3 things.
>>
>> You really should NOT be running your own PUBLIC DNS server --
>> you paid the REGISTRAR for that service (in almost all modern) cases
>> so let them do it.
>>
>> Public DNS belongs at the REGISTRAR for almost all small companies.
>>
>>> I would like any help that I can get, PLEASE
>>
>> But you could also just give the registrar two different names for the
>> same
>> IP even though that is a BAD practice.
>>
>> --
>> Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
>> http://www.LearnQuick.Com
>> (phone on web site)
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The reason that I am hosting my own DNS is for my WISP, with it just now
starting up I do not have the servers that I need. I can host my site and NS1
and NS2 on seperate computers (like using my two laptops), but ZI am trying
to do it all on one server until I can get more servers. Some people ask why
I am trying to do this, the answer is that with me hosting my own SMTP I must
haver the name servers up so that the mail knows were to go.
Thanks, Jed
"Herb Martin" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > > "Jed Davis" <Jed Davis[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:00D64820-6055-4B7A-A8E7-2FBF4A1E993F[ at ]microsoft.com... > >I don ot have clue how to do this. > > > > I am hosting my site, and it is up and running fine, I have it listed > > with > > the registra. > > > > Now I want to start my own nameserver "ns1 and ns2" can some one tell me > > almost step-by-step how i add the name server to my dns, keeping in mind > > that > > I only have one computer to host all 3 things. > > You really should NOT be running your own PUBLIC DNS server -- > you paid the REGISTRAR for that service (in almost all modern) cases > so let them do it. > > Public DNS belongs at the REGISTRAR for almost all small companies. > > > I would like any help that I can get, PLEASE > > But you could also just give the registrar two different names for the same > IP even though that is a BAD practice. > > -- > Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP > http://www.LearnQuick.Com> (phone on web site) > > > |
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"Jed Davis" <JedDavis[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F9EA61D8-3328-422B-973F-9949D80575EA[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > The reason that I am hosting my own DNS is for my WISP, with it just now
> starting up I do not have the servers that I need. I can host my site and
> NS1
> and NS2 on seperate computers (like using my two laptops), but ZI am
> trying
> to do it all on one server until I can get more servers. Some people ask
> why
> I am trying to do this, the answer is that with me hosting my own SMTP I
> must
> haver the name servers up so that the mail knows were to go.
Yes, but you can put the DNS (back) at the Registrar (for public DNS).
There is practically no reason for small companies to run their own DNS;
one of the issues is that you are supposed to have at least TWO DNS
servers (Internet business rules) and there are others.
Only large companies who have plenty of (separated) resources and
24/7 support people should run their own public DNS.
--
Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
http://www.LearnQuick.Com
(phone on web site)
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Herb,
I've done this in the past (before hosting companies let me change DNS
entries at their end). We did it by configuring two address translations on
our firewall (a cisco pix in our case). We had two external IP addresses
being converted to one internal IP for port 53 traffic. It's a rubbish
solution in an age when hosting service DNS entries can be changed (you also
have to pay for the external static IP addresses) but it works if you have to
do it.
Cheers
Andy
"Herb Martin" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > > "Jed Davis" <JedDavis[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:F9EA61D8-3328-422B-973F-9949D80575EA[ at ]microsoft.com... > > The reason that I am hosting my own DNS is for my WISP, with it just now > > starting up I do not have the servers that I need. I can host my site and > > NS1 > > and NS2 on seperate computers (like using my two laptops), but ZI am > > trying > > to do it all on one server until I can get more servers. Some people ask > > why > > I am trying to do this, the answer is that with me hosting my own SMTP I > > must > > haver the name servers up so that the mail knows were to go. > > Yes, but you can put the DNS (back) at the Registrar (for public DNS). > > There is practically no reason for small companies to run their own DNS; > one of the issues is that you are supposed to have at least TWO DNS > servers (Internet business rules) and there are others. > > Only large companies who have plenty of (separated) resources and > 24/7 support people should run their own public DNS. > > -- > Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP > http://www.LearnQuick.Com> (phone on web site) > > > |
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It was Jed asking the question wasn't it. Sorry Herb. Not enough caffeine
this morning.....Andy
"Sorbukar" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Herb, > > I've done this in the past (before hosting companies let me change DNS > entries at their end). We did it by configuring two address translations on > our firewall (a cisco pix in our case). We had two external IP addresses > being converted to one internal IP for port 53 traffic. It's a rubbish > solution in an age when hosting service DNS entries can be changed (you also > have to pay for the external static IP addresses) but it works if you have to > do it. > > Cheers > Andy > > "Herb Martin" wrote: > > > > > "Jed Davis" <JedDavis[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:F9EA61D8-3328-422B-973F-9949D80575EA[ at ]microsoft.com... > > > The reason that I am hosting my own DNS is for my WISP, with it just now > > > starting up I do not have the servers that I need. I can host my site and > > > NS1 > > > and NS2 on seperate computers (like using my two laptops), but ZI am > > > trying > > > to do it all on one server until I can get more servers. Some people ask > > > why > > > I am trying to do this, the answer is that with me hosting my own SMTP I > > > must > > > haver the name servers up so that the mail knows were to go. > > > > Yes, but you can put the DNS (back) at the Registrar (for public DNS). > > > > There is practically no reason for small companies to run their own DNS; > > one of the issues is that you are supposed to have at least TWO DNS > > servers (Internet business rules) and there are others. > > > > Only large companies who have plenty of (separated) resources and > > 24/7 support people should run their own public DNS. > > > > -- > > Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP > > http://www.LearnQuick.Com> > (phone on web site) > > > > > > |
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"Sorbukar" <Sorbukar[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2391A48B-B8D8-4BE6-99D0-894E3403FF82[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Herb,
>
> I've done this in the past (before hosting companies let me change DNS
> entries at their end).
I do NOT recommend puting your public DNS at the hosting company
(or ISP) either as they don't usually have the resources and placement that
the REGISTRARS do. (Things may vary since companies like GoDaddy.com
are both but you get the idea.)
> We did it by configuring two address translations on
> our firewall (a cisco pix in our case). We had two external IP addresses
> being converted to one internal IP for port 53 traffic. It's a rubbish
> solution in an age when hosting service DNS entries can be changed (you
> also
> have to pay for the external static IP addresses) but it works if you have
> to
> do it.
Yes, it can work but as you say it is almost always an inferior solution.
--
Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
http://www.LearnQuick.Com
(phone on web site)
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I want to thank you,
I did as you said, it works. I think that the only reason i am not have
trouble to much is the OC3 connection and the class C IP. But you can rest
sure that I am looking for the easy way, and I think that we all know this is
not the easy way, even using a Cisco 7513 Router.
Have a good day, and keep the good help coming.
"Sorbukar" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Herb, > > I've done this in the past (before hosting companies let me change DNS > entries at their end). We did it by configuring two address translations on > our firewall (a cisco pix in our case). We had two external IP addresses > being converted to one internal IP for port 53 traffic. It's a rubbish > solution in an age when hosting service DNS entries can be changed (you also > have to pay for the external static IP addresses) but it works if you have to > do it. > > Cheers > Andy > > "Herb Martin" wrote: > > > > > "Jed Davis" <JedDavis[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:F9EA61D8-3328-422B-973F-9949D80575EA[ at ]microsoft.com... > > > The reason that I am hosting my own DNS is for my WISP, with it just now > > > starting up I do not have the servers that I need. I can host my site and > > > NS1 > > > and NS2 on seperate computers (like using my two laptops), but ZI am > > > trying > > > to do it all on one server until I can get more servers. Some people ask > > > why > > > I am trying to do this, the answer is that with me hosting my own SMTP I > > > must > > > haver the name servers up so that the mail knows were to go. > > > > Yes, but you can put the DNS (back) at the Registrar (for public DNS). > > > > There is practically no reason for small companies to run their own DNS; > > one of the issues is that you are supposed to have at least TWO DNS > > servers (Internet business rules) and there are others. > > > > Only large companies who have plenty of (separated) resources and > > 24/7 support people should run their own public DNS. > > > > -- > > Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP > > http://www.LearnQuick.Com> > (phone on web site) > > > > > > |
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Of course if you can afford a 7513 or an OC3, you can certanly afford new DNS
servers or even applicaces.
I would still advise you to find another DNS server. Even if you don't care
about the availibility risk, think of the hacking target you've exposed.
--
Ryan Hanisco
MCSE, MCTS: SQL 2005, Project+
Chicago, IL
Remember: Marking helpful answers helps everyone find the info they need
quickly.
"Jed Davis" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > I want to thank you, > > I did as you said, it works. I think that the only reason i am not have > trouble to much is the OC3 connection and the class C IP. But you can rest > sure that I am looking for the easy way, and I think that we all know this is > not the easy way, even using a Cisco 7513 Router. > > Have a good day, and keep the good help coming. > > "Sorbukar" wrote: > > > Herb, > > > > I've done this in the past (before hosting companies let me change DNS > > entries at their end). We did it by configuring two address translations on > > our firewall (a cisco pix in our case). We had two external IP addresses > > being converted to one internal IP for port 53 traffic. It's a rubbish > > solution in an age when hosting service DNS entries can be changed (you also > > have to pay for the external static IP addresses) but it works if you have to > > do it. > > > > Cheers > > Andy > > > > "Herb Martin" wrote: > > > > > > > > "Jed Davis" <JedDavis[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > news:F9EA61D8-3328-422B-973F-9949D80575EA[ at ]microsoft.com... > > > > The reason that I am hosting my own DNS is for my WISP, with it just now > > > > starting up I do not have the servers that I need. I can host my site and > > > > NS1 > > > > and NS2 on seperate computers (like using my two laptops), but ZI am > > > > trying > > > > to do it all on one server until I can get more servers. Some people ask > > > > why > > > > I am trying to do this, the answer is that with me hosting my own SMTP I > > > > must > > > > haver the name servers up so that the mail knows were to go. > > > > > > Yes, but you can put the DNS (back) at the Registrar (for public DNS). > > > > > > There is practically no reason for small companies to run their own DNS; > > > one of the issues is that you are supposed to have at least TWO DNS > > > servers (Internet business rules) and there are others. > > > > > > Only large companies who have plenty of (separated) resources and > > > 24/7 support people should run their own public DNS. > > > > > > -- > > > Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP > > > http://www.LearnQuick.Com> > > (phone on web site) > > > > > > > > > |
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