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Thread: Vista MCE Will Not Pair with ATI TV Wonder w/CableCard

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Vista MCE Will Not Pair with ATI TV Wonder w/CableCard
bgreen41 7/7/2007 6:20:00 PM
I just purchased an HP m8010y Media Center PC that came with an ATI TV Wonder
OpenCable Receiver (1049) digital cable tuner and have been unable to pair to
a Comcast CableCard. I receive Authorization Failure 1070 every time I try
to pair the card. Comcast has been out three times and say they've never
seen one of these before. I receive some standard channels and some HD
channels, but no premium content and don't get a lot of standard content.

I am running Vista Home Premium for Digital Cable, Quad Core Processor, 2Gb
RAM, nVidia GeForce 8500 GT Video Card. System also has a Hauppauge WinTV
418 video capture card in it, but this is not being used for the cable
channels--everything goes through the ATI TV Wonder external tuner.

Has anyone had success with this combination of hardware?

Any help would be appreciated.
--
bgreen41
Re: Vista MCE Will Not Pair with ATI TV Wonder w/CableCard
Barb Bowman <barb[ at ]nospam.com> 7/7/2007 7:26:02 PM
do you have an SA or Motorola CableCard? Has Comcast tried more than
one card? What are your RF levels? Did you add splitters? Did the
techs check the levels?

Where are you seeing the error message?

Did you reconfigure the TV signal after the cable card was
installed?

What state do you live in?


On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 11:20:00 -0700, bgreen41
<bgreen41[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>I just purchased an HP m8010y Media Center PC that came with an ATI TV Wonder
>OpenCable Receiver (1049) digital cable tuner and have been unable to pair to
>a Comcast CableCard. I receive Authorization Failure 1070 every time I try
>to pair the card. Comcast has been out three times and say they've never
>seen one of these before. I receive some standard channels and some HD
>channels, but no premium content and don't get a lot of standard content.
>
>I am running Vista Home Premium for Digital Cable, Quad Core Processor, 2Gb
>RAM, nVidia GeForce 8500 GT Video Card. System also has a Hauppauge WinTV
>418 video capture card in it, but this is not being used for the cable
>channels--everything goes through the ATI TV Wonder external tuner.
>
>Has anyone had success with this combination of hardware?
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
Re: Vista MCE Will Not Pair with ATI TV Wonder w/CableCard
bgreen41 7/7/2007 8:06:01 PM
It is a Motorola Part No. 469140-003-00 card. They have tried three cable
cards at this point, all Motorola. I have one splitter, but all three Techs
that checked said the signal levels were strong. Signal Level shows 41 dBmV,
SNR 28 dB.

The error message appears when I access CableCard Diagnostics in Media
Center...Tasks...Settings...TV...TV Signal...Activate Digital Cable...Scan
for CableCard....Tuner 1. It also appears when I access CableCard
Diagnostics in Media Center...Tasks...Settings...TV...TV Signal....Digital
Tuner Diagnostics...CableCard Pairing. It says "There was a technical
problem during the authorization process. This product may have some
component failure or may not be designed to be compatible with digital cable
television services."

I have tried reconfiguring TV signal several times, both by shutting down PC
and restarting, and not shutting down. What is strange is that the PC Doctor
hardware testing included with the PC shows no signal from the TV Wonder, but
I am able to see channels 2-20 and some HD channels in Media Center.

I live in Denver
--
bgreen41


"Barb Bowman" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> do you have an SA or Motorola CableCard? Has Comcast tried more than
> one card? What are your RF levels? Did you add splitters? Did the
> techs check the levels?
>
> Where are you seeing the error message?
>
> Did you reconfigure the TV signal after the cable card was
> installed?
>
> What state do you live in?
>
>
> On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 11:20:00 -0700, bgreen41
> <bgreen41[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >I just purchased an HP m8010y Media Center PC that came with an ATI TV Wonder
> >OpenCable Receiver (1049) digital cable tuner and have been unable to pair to
> >a Comcast CableCard. I receive Authorization Failure 1070 every time I try
> >to pair the card. Comcast has been out three times and say they've never
> >seen one of these before. I receive some standard channels and some HD
> >channels, but no premium content and don't get a lot of standard content.
> >
> >I am running Vista Home Premium for Digital Cable, Quad Core Processor, 2Gb
> >RAM, nVidia GeForce 8500 GT Video Card. System also has a Hauppauge WinTV
> >418 video capture card in it, but this is not being used for the cable
> >channels--everything goes through the ATI TV Wonder external tuner.
> >
> >Has anyone had success with this combination of hardware?
> >
> >Any help would be appreciated.
> --
>
> Barb Bowman
> MS Windows-MVP
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
>
Re: Vista MCE Will Not Pair with ATI TV Wonder w/CableCard
bgreen41 7/7/2007 8:28:01 PM
I tried connecting without the splitter and my signal is now at -7dBmV.
Still no CableCard pairing
--
bgreen41


"bgreen41" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> It is a Motorola Part No. 469140-003-00 card. They have tried three cable
> cards at this point, all Motorola. I have one splitter, but all three Techs
> that checked said the signal levels were strong. Signal Level shows 41 dBmV,
> SNR 28 dB.
>
> The error message appears when I access CableCard Diagnostics in Media
> Center...Tasks...Settings...TV...TV Signal...Activate Digital Cable...Scan
> for CableCard....Tuner 1. It also appears when I access CableCard
> Diagnostics in Media Center...Tasks...Settings...TV...TV Signal....Digital
> Tuner Diagnostics...CableCard Pairing. It says "There was a technical
> problem during the authorization process. This product may have some
> component failure or may not be designed to be compatible with digital cable
> television services."
>
> I have tried reconfiguring TV signal several times, both by shutting down PC
> and restarting, and not shutting down. What is strange is that the PC Doctor
> hardware testing included with the PC shows no signal from the TV Wonder, but
> I am able to see channels 2-20 and some HD channels in Media Center.
>
> I live in Denver
> --
> bgreen41
>
>
> "Barb Bowman" wrote:
>
> > do you have an SA or Motorola CableCard? Has Comcast tried more than
> > one card? What are your RF levels? Did you add splitters? Did the
> > techs check the levels?
> >
> > Where are you seeing the error message?
> >
> > Did you reconfigure the TV signal after the cable card was
> > installed?
> >
> > What state do you live in?
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 11:20:00 -0700, bgreen41
> > <bgreen41[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I just purchased an HP m8010y Media Center PC that came with an ATI TV Wonder
> > >OpenCable Receiver (1049) digital cable tuner and have been unable to pair to
> > >a Comcast CableCard. I receive Authorization Failure 1070 every time I try
> > >to pair the card. Comcast has been out three times and say they've never
> > >seen one of these before. I receive some standard channels and some HD
> > >channels, but no premium content and don't get a lot of standard content.
> > >
> > >I am running Vista Home Premium for Digital Cable, Quad Core Processor, 2Gb
> > >RAM, nVidia GeForce 8500 GT Video Card. System also has a Hauppauge WinTV
> > >418 video capture card in it, but this is not being used for the cable
> > >channels--everything goes through the ATI TV Wonder external tuner.
> > >
> > >Has anyone had success with this combination of hardware?
> > >
> > >Any help would be appreciated.
> > --
> >
> > Barb Bowman
> > MS Windows-MVP
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
> > http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
> >
Re: Vista MCE Will Not Pair with ATI TV Wonder w/CableCard
Barb Bowman <barb[ at ]nospam.com> 7/7/2007 9:27:23 PM
ok, you have a motorola head end.

the Activate failure you are seeing is not necessarily on the cable
side but sounds like you are unable to activate on the internet
server that authorizes all the DRM bits. this is separate from the
pairing Comcast does in the DAC.

what firewalls and so on are you running? how are you connected to
the Internet?

what firmware version is in the ATI DCT? are both LEDs green?

On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 13:06:01 -0700, bgreen41
<bgreen41[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>It is a Motorola Part No. 469140-003-00 card. They have tried three cable
>cards at this point, all Motorola. I have one splitter, but all three Techs
>that checked said the signal levels were strong. Signal Level shows 41 dBmV,
>SNR 28 dB.
>
>The error message appears when I access CableCard Diagnostics in Media
>Center...Tasks...Settings...TV...TV Signal...Activate Digital Cable...Scan
>for CableCard....Tuner 1. It also appears when I access CableCard
>Diagnostics in Media Center...Tasks...Settings...TV...TV Signal....Digital
>Tuner Diagnostics...CableCard Pairing. It says "There was a technical
>problem during the authorization process. This product may have some
>component failure or may not be designed to be compatible with digital cable
>television services."
>
>I have tried reconfiguring TV signal several times, both by shutting down PC
>and restarting, and not shutting down. What is strange is that the PC Doctor
>hardware testing included with the PC shows no signal from the TV Wonder, but
>I am able to see channels 2-20 and some HD channels in Media Center.
>
>I live in Denver
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
Re: Vista MCE Will Not Pair with ATI TV Wonder w/CableCard
bgreen41 7/7/2007 10:04:00 PM
ATI Firmware Version is 1.15.2007.04051, Apr 5 2007.

Running Norton Internet Security Firewall. Internet connection is DSL
through Cisco 678 router with cabled connection to a Linksys 10/100 workgroup
switch.
--
bgreen41


"Barb Bowman" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> ok, you have a motorola head end.
>
> the Activate failure you are seeing is not necessarily on the cable
> side but sounds like you are unable to activate on the internet
> server that authorizes all the DRM bits. this is separate from the
> pairing Comcast does in the DAC.
>
> what firewalls and so on are you running? how are you connected to
> the Internet?
>
> what firmware version is in the ATI DCT? are both LEDs green?
>
> On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 13:06:01 -0700, bgreen41
> <bgreen41[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >It is a Motorola Part No. 469140-003-00 card. They have tried three cable
> >cards at this point, all Motorola. I have one splitter, but all three Techs
> >that checked said the signal levels were strong. Signal Level shows 41 dBmV,
> >SNR 28 dB.
> >
> >The error message appears when I access CableCard Diagnostics in Media
> >Center...Tasks...Settings...TV...TV Signal...Activate Digital Cable...Scan
> >for CableCard....Tuner 1. It also appears when I access CableCard
> >Diagnostics in Media Center...Tasks...Settings...TV...TV Signal....Digital
> >Tuner Diagnostics...CableCard Pairing. It says "There was a technical
> >problem during the authorization process. This product may have some
> >component failure or may not be designed to be compatible with digital cable
> >television services."
> >
> >I have tried reconfiguring TV signal several times, both by shutting down PC
> >and restarting, and not shutting down. What is strange is that the PC Doctor
> >hardware testing included with the PC shows no signal from the TV Wonder, but
> >I am able to see channels 2-20 and some HD channels in Media Center.
> >
> >I live in Denver
> --
>
> Barb Bowman
> MS Windows-MVP
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
>
Re: Vista MCE Will Not Pair with ATI TV Wonder w/CableCard
bgreen41 7/7/2007 10:04:01 PM
And both LEDs are green.
--
bgreen41


"Barb Bowman" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> ok, you have a motorola head end.
>
> the Activate failure you are seeing is not necessarily on the cable
> side but sounds like you are unable to activate on the internet
> server that authorizes all the DRM bits. this is separate from the
> pairing Comcast does in the DAC.
>
> what firewalls and so on are you running? how are you connected to
> the Internet?
>
> what firmware version is in the ATI DCT? are both LEDs green?
>
> On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 13:06:01 -0700, bgreen41
> <bgreen41[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >It is a Motorola Part No. 469140-003-00 card. They have tried three cable
> >cards at this point, all Motorola. I have one splitter, but all three Techs
> >that checked said the signal levels were strong. Signal Level shows 41 dBmV,
> >SNR 28 dB.
> >
> >The error message appears when I access CableCard Diagnostics in Media
> >Center...Tasks...Settings...TV...TV Signal...Activate Digital Cable...Scan
> >for CableCard....Tuner 1. It also appears when I access CableCard
> >Diagnostics in Media Center...Tasks...Settings...TV...TV Signal....Digital
> >Tuner Diagnostics...CableCard Pairing. It says "There was a technical
> >problem during the authorization process. This product may have some
> >component failure or may not be designed to be compatible with digital cable
> >television services."
> >
> >I have tried reconfiguring TV signal several times, both by shutting down PC
> >and restarting, and not shutting down. What is strange is that the PC Doctor
> >hardware testing included with the PC shows no signal from the TV Wonder, but
> >I am able to see channels 2-20 and some HD channels in Media Center.
> >
> >I live in Denver
> --
>
> Barb Bowman
> MS Windows-MVP
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
>
Re: Vista MCE Will Not Pair with ATI TV Wonder w/CableCard
"Jason Tsang" <jason-onlineDEL[ at ]ETEmvps.org> 7/8/2007 2:58:32 AM
See if this helps.

CableCARD and Digital Cable vs Firewalls
http://jtsang.blogspot.com/2007/05/cablecard-and-digital-cable-vs.html

If you can't get it working with Norton Internet Security installed, remove
it and see if that makes a difference (disabling it will not turn off the
service(s) that it runs in the background).

--
Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP

Read my blog for the latest in Media Center topics
(and other topics that interest me)
http://jtsang.blogspot.com

More information by me
http://jtsang.mvps.org
http://www.classicsunveiled.com

Find out about the MS MVP Program -
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx



"bgreen41" <bgreen41[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DF662567-3C3C-4552-A516-61218B2B0DA1[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> ATI Firmware Version is 1.15.2007.04051, Apr 5 2007.
>
> Running Norton Internet Security Firewall. Internet connection is DSL
> through Cisco 678 router with cabled connection to a Linksys 10/100
> workgroup
> switch.
> --
> bgreen41
>
>
> "Barb Bowman" wrote:
>
>> ok, you have a motorola head end.
>>
>> the Activate failure you are seeing is not necessarily on the cable
>> side but sounds like you are unable to activate on the internet
>> server that authorizes all the DRM bits. this is separate from the
>> pairing Comcast does in the DAC.
>>
>> what firewalls and so on are you running? how are you connected to
>> the Internet?
>>
>> what firmware version is in the ATI DCT? are both LEDs green?
>>
>> On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 13:06:01 -0700, bgreen41
>> <bgreen41[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> >It is a Motorola Part No. 469140-003-00 card. They have tried three
>> >cable
>> >cards at this point, all Motorola. I have one splitter, but all three
>> >Techs
>> >that checked said the signal levels were strong. Signal Level shows 41
>> >dBmV,
>> >SNR 28 dB.
>> >
>> >The error message appears when I access CableCard Diagnostics in Media
>> >Center...Tasks...Settings...TV...TV Signal...Activate Digital
>> >Cable...Scan
>> >for CableCard....Tuner 1. It also appears when I access CableCard
>> >Diagnostics in Media Center...Tasks...Settings...TV...TV
>> >Signal....Digital
>> >Tuner Diagnostics...CableCard Pairing. It says "There was a technical
>> >problem during the authorization process. This product may have some
>> >component failure or may not be designed to be compatible with digital
>> >cable
>> >television services."
>> >
>> >I have tried reconfiguring TV signal several times, both by shutting
>> >down PC
>> >and restarting, and not shutting down. What is strange is that the PC
>> >Doctor
>> >hardware testing included with the PC shows no signal from the TV
>> >Wonder, but
>> >I am able to see channels 2-20 and some HD channels in Media Center.
>> >
>> >I live in Denver
>> --
>>
>> Barb Bowman
>> MS Windows-MVP
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
>> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
>>


Re: Vista MCE Will Not Pair with ATI TV Wonder w/CableCard
Barb Bowman <barb[ at ]nospam.com> 7/8/2007 9:29:09 AM
NIS is known to create this kind of problem. You need to uninstall
it (not just disable it) to see if your problem clears. Once you
have confirmed that the problem is resolved, check with the Symantec
folks and see if they have guidance on reinstalling and what ports
to open. UDP 5001-5006, UDP 1900, TCP 2869, TCP 554, UDP 5757-5772
should be the ones, but I can't assist you with a Norton product as
I won't use their software.

On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 15:04:00 -0700, bgreen41
<bgreen41[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>ATI Firmware Version is 1.15.2007.04051, Apr 5 2007.
>
>Running Norton Internet Security Firewall. Internet connection is DSL
>through Cisco 678 router with cabled connection to a Linksys 10/100 workgroup
>switch.
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
Re: Vista MCE Will Not Pair with ATI TV Wonder w/CableCard
bgreen41 7/8/2007 6:14:01 PM
Totally uninstalled NIS and problem is exactly the same. Rebooted several
times, tried removing CableCard and reinstalling. powered down cable tuner
then repowered, removed digital cable tuner from device manager and let Vista
reinstall it. This is a tough one.
--
bgreen41


"Barb Bowman" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> NIS is known to create this kind of problem. You need to uninstall
> it (not just disable it) to see if your problem clears. Once you
> have confirmed that the problem is resolved, check with the Symantec
> folks and see if they have guidance on reinstalling and what ports
> to open. UDP 5001-5006, UDP 1900, TCP 2869, TCP 554, UDP 5757-5772
> should be the ones, but I can't assist you with a Norton product as
> I won't use their software.
>
> On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 15:04:00 -0700, bgreen41
> <bgreen41[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >ATI Firmware Version is 1.15.2007.04051, Apr 5 2007.
> >
> >Running Norton Internet Security Firewall. Internet connection is DSL
> >through Cisco 678 router with cabled connection to a Linksys 10/100 workgroup
> >switch.
> --
>
> Barb Bowman
> MS Windows-MVP
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
>
Re: Vista MCE Will Not Pair with ATI TV Wonder w/CableCard
Barb Bowman <barb[ at ]nospam.com> 7/8/2007 8:11:37 PM
Have you installed
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935652 ?

Can you also check the Event logs for references to the error?

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 11:14:01 -0700, bgreen41
<bgreen41[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>Totally uninstalled NIS and problem is exactly the same. Rebooted several
>times, tried removing CableCard and reinstalling. powered down cable tuner
>then repowered, removed digital cable tuner from device manager and let Vista
>reinstall it. This is a tough one.
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
Re: Vista MCE Will Not Pair with ATI TV Wonder w/CableCard
bgreen41 7/9/2007 1:12:08 PM
Yes, installed that update about a week ago. Don't see anything in the logs
that seems to point to this error. I think you are right about the internet
server, because when I look at IP Services in Media Center, there are no IP
addresses listed and no address for the default gateway. It seems no
connection is being made to the internet. Also, when I hunt for network
services in Media Center, it finds nothing.
--
bgreen41


"Barb Bowman" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Have you installed
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935652 ?
>
> Can you also check the Event logs for references to the error?
>
> On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 11:14:01 -0700, bgreen41
> <bgreen41[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >Totally uninstalled NIS and problem is exactly the same. Rebooted several
> >times, tried removing CableCard and reinstalling. powered down cable tuner
> >then repowered, removed digital cable tuner from device manager and let Vista
> >reinstall it. This is a tough one.
> --
>
> Barb Bowman
> MS Windows-MVP
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
>
Re: Vista MCE Will Not Pair with ATI TV Wonder w/CableCard
Barb Bowman <barb[ at ]nospam.com> 7/9/2007 1:22:17 PM
lets try this fix:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/928233/en-us

On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 06:12:08 -0700, bgreen41
<bgreen41[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>Yes, installed that update about a week ago. Don't see anything in the logs
>that seems to point to this error. I think you are right about the internet
>server, because when I look at IP Services in Media Center, there are no IP
>addresses listed and no address for the default gateway. It seems no
>connection is being made to the internet. Also, when I hunt for network
>services in Media Center, it finds nothing.
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

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