Word 2003: Changing the increase/decrease rate of the indent icon? hayakaw1 12/19/2005 10:02:02 PM Hi. I have just moved from Word 2000 to Word 2003. What I am trying to do is to increase or decrease indent by 0.25 inch everytime I click on the the "increase indent" icon or the "decrease indent" icon. Currently, the indent increases or decreases 1/6 inch. When I was using Word 2000, I could do it by changing default tab stop parameter from 0.5 inch to 0.25 inch. However, I cannot use this method for Word 2003. When I change the parameter of default tab stop, it does affect the tab function but not indenting function. The increase and decrease of indent seems to be following not the default tab stop parameter but the gridline. I would appreciate if someone can give me kind advice. Thank you very much.

Re: Word 2003: Changing the increase/decrease rate of the indent icon? "Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]mvps.org> 12/20/2005 6:17:10 AM With Word 2003 (SP2) here, the indent increases by whatever you set the default tab stop to? When you upgraded, did you start with a clean install or did you upgrade 2000? If the latter, rename normal.dot (a hidden file) to oldnormal.dot and delete the Word data registry key (see http://www.gmayor.com/my_toolbars_are_missing.htm ) You can copy your macros/toolbars etc from old to new template, but you will have to rebuild your tools > options and autoformatting settings. -- <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> hayakaw1 wrote: [Quoted Text] > Hi. I have just moved from Word 2000 to Word 2003. > > What I am trying to do is to increase or decrease indent by 0.25 inch > everytime I click on the the "increase indent" icon or the "decrease > indent" icon. Currently, the indent increases or decreases 1/6 inch. > > When I was using Word 2000, I could do it by changing default tab stop > parameter from 0.5 inch to 0.25 inch. However, I cannot use this > method for Word 2003. When I change the parameter of default tab > stop, it does affect the tab function but not indenting function. > The increase and decrease of indent seems to be following not the > default tab stop parameter but the gridline. > > I would appreciate if someone can give me kind advice. > > Thank you very much.

Re: Word 2003: Changing the increase/decrease rate of the indent i hayakaw1 12/23/2005 12:01:02 AM Thank you very much for your advice. Yes, I upgraded Office 2000 to Office 2003. I tried to locate the "normal.dot" file but I couldn't --- All I could find was "Normal" Microsoft Word Template. I turned on the appropriate radio button so that the "find" command would do search through hidden files. Could you tell me how to find "normal.dot"? I checked "www.gmayor.com" as you instructed. By using the registry editer, I found "(default)", "FontInfoCache", and "User Data" at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\9.0\Word. File types are respectively "REG_SZ", REG_BINARY", and "REG_DWORD". Do I need to delete "User Data"? I would appreciate your kind advice. "Graham Mayor" wrote: [Quoted Text] > With Word 2003 (SP2) here, the indent increases by whatever you set the > default tab stop to? > When you upgraded, did you start with a clean install or did you upgrade > 2000? If the latter, rename normal.dot (a hidden file) to oldnormal.dot and > delete the Word data registry key (see > http://www.gmayor.com/my_toolbars_are_missing.htm ) > You can copy your macros/toolbars etc from old to new template, but you will > have to rebuild your tools > options and autoformatting settings. > > -- > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > Graham Mayor - Word MVP > > My web site www.gmayor.com > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > > hayakaw1 wrote: > > Hi. I have just moved from Word 2000 to Word 2003. > > > > What I am trying to do is to increase or decrease indent by 0.25 inch > > everytime I click on the the "increase indent" icon or the "decrease > > indent" icon. Currently, the indent increases or decreases 1/6 inch. > > > > When I was using Word 2000, I could do it by changing default tab stop > > parameter from 0.5 inch to 0.25 inch. However, I cannot use this > > method for Word 2003. When I change the parameter of default tab > > stop, it does affect the tab function but not indenting function. > > The increase and decrease of indent seems to be following not the > > default tab stop parameter but the gridline. > > > > I would appreciate if someone can give me kind advice. > > > > Thank you very much. > > >

Re: Word 2003: Changing the increase/decrease rate of the indent i "Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]mvps.org> 12/23/2005 6:34:59 AM Ensure Word is not running (it may be running in the background if you use Word as an editor for Outlook and Outlook is running - so close both Word and Outlook). To enable you to see exactly what you are doing open Windows Explorer then tools > folder options > view and check 'show hidden files and > folders' and uncheck 'hide extensions for known file types'. (You can always change them back later, but mistakes are made by not dealing with the correct files so I would recommend leaving it that way.) Then locate and rename normal.dot to oldnormal.dot (It is in the folder set at tools > options > file locations > user templates). See if this fixes the problem before moving on to the next part. The registry entry you listed is for Word 2000 and not 2003. The appropriate registry entry for Word 2003 is HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Word\Data You can delete that key (but ONLY that key). select it in the left Window of the registry editor, right click and delete it. When you restart Word, it will rebuild both the normal.dot file and the registry data key (to install defaults). You will have to reset some preferences, but you can use the organizer in Word to copy some preferences from the oldnormal.dot to the new normal.dot. Have a good Christmas! -- <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> hayakaw1 wrote: [Quoted Text] > Thank you very much for your advice. > > Yes, I upgraded Office 2000 to Office 2003. I tried to locate the > "normal.dot" file but I couldn't --- All I could find was "Normal" > Microsoft Word Template. I turned on the appropriate radio button so > that the "find" command would do search through hidden files. Could > you tell me how to find "normal.dot"? > > I checked "www.gmayor.com" as you instructed. By using the registry > editer, I found "(default)", "FontInfoCache", and "User Data" at > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\9.0\Word. File types are > respectively "REG_SZ", REG_BINARY", and "REG_DWORD". Do I need to > delete "User Data"? > > I would appreciate your kind advice. > > "Graham Mayor" wrote: > >> With Word 2003 (SP2) here, the indent increases by whatever you set >> the default tab stop to? >> When you upgraded, did you start with a clean install or did you >> upgrade 2000? If the latter, rename normal.dot (a hidden file) to >> oldnormal.dot and delete the Word data registry key (see >> http://www.gmayor.com/my_toolbars_are_missing.htm ) >> You can copy your macros/toolbars etc from old to new template, but >> you will have to rebuild your tools > options and autoformatting >> settings. >> >> -- >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >> Graham Mayor - Word MVP >> >> My web site www.gmayor.com >> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >> >> hayakaw1 wrote: >>> Hi. I have just moved from Word 2000 to Word 2003. >>> >>> What I am trying to do is to increase or decrease indent by 0.25 >>> inch everytime I click on the the "increase indent" icon or the >>> "decrease indent" icon. Currently, the indent increases or >>> decreases 1/6 inch. >>> >>> When I was using Word 2000, I could do it by changing default tab >>> stop parameter from 0.5 inch to 0.25 inch. However, I cannot use >>> this method for Word 2003. When I change the parameter of default >>> tab stop, it does affect the tab function but not indenting >>> function. >>> The increase and decrease of indent seems to be following not the >>> default tab stop parameter but the gridline. >>> >>> I would appreciate if someone can give me kind advice. >>> >>> Thank you very much.

Re: Word 2003: Changing the increase/decrease rate of the indent i hayakaw1 12/23/2005 8:49:02 PM Thank you very much for your advice again. I found "Normal.dot" (the first character "N" was capitalized) and changed the file name to "oldnormal.dot" (by using a non-capitalized letter "o" for the first character). Then I restarted the computer, but I couldn't solve the problem. When I attempted to resort to the secondary solution, I found three files ("(default)", "Settings", and "Toolbars" respectively), but I am not sure which file is "that" key you mentioned in your last e-mail. Could you specify which file I must delete? Sorry for asking you questions over and over, but solving this problem is very important (if I can't solve this, I may have to go back to Word 2000). Thank you very much. "Graham Mayor" wrote: [Quoted Text] > Ensure Word is not running (it may be running in the background if you use > Word as an editor for Outlook and Outlook is running - so close both Word > and Outlook). > > To enable you to see exactly what you are doing open Windows Explorer then > tools > folder options > view and check 'show hidden files and > folders' > and uncheck 'hide extensions for known file types'. (You can always change > them back later, but mistakes are made by not dealing with the correct files > so I would recommend leaving it that way.) Then locate and rename normal.dot > to oldnormal.dot (It is in the folder set at tools > options > file > locations > user templates). > > See if this fixes the problem before moving on to the next part. > > The registry entry you listed is for Word 2000 and not 2003. > The appropriate registry entry for Word 2003 is > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Word\Data > > You can delete that key (but ONLY that key). select it in the left Window of > the registry editor, right click and delete it. > > When you restart Word, it will rebuild both the normal.dot file and the > registry data key (to install defaults). You will have to reset some > preferences, but you can use the organizer in Word to copy some preferences > from the oldnormal.dot to the new normal.dot. > > Have a good Christmas! > > -- > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > Graham Mayor - Word MVP > > My web site www.gmayor.com > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > > > hayakaw1 wrote: > > Thank you very much for your advice. > > > > Yes, I upgraded Office 2000 to Office 2003. I tried to locate the > > "normal.dot" file but I couldn't --- All I could find was "Normal" > > Microsoft Word Template. I turned on the appropriate radio button so > > that the "find" command would do search through hidden files. Could > > you tell me how to find "normal.dot"? > > > > I checked "www.gmayor.com" as you instructed. By using the registry > > editer, I found "(default)", "FontInfoCache", and "User Data" at > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\9.0\Word. File types are > > respectively "REG_SZ", REG_BINARY", and "REG_DWORD". Do I need to > > delete "User Data"? > > > > I would appreciate your kind advice. > > > > "Graham Mayor" wrote: > > > >> With Word 2003 (SP2) here, the indent increases by whatever you set > >> the default tab stop to? > >> When you upgraded, did you start with a clean install or did you > >> upgrade 2000? If the latter, rename normal.dot (a hidden file) to > >> oldnormal.dot and delete the Word data registry key (see > >> http://www.gmayor.com/my_toolbars_are_missing.htm ) > >> You can copy your macros/toolbars etc from old to new template, but > >> you will have to rebuild your tools > options and autoformatting > >> settings. > >> > >> -- > >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > >> Graham Mayor - Word MVP > >> > >> My web site www.gmayor.com > >> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org > >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > >> > >> hayakaw1 wrote: > >>> Hi. I have just moved from Word 2000 to Word 2003. > >>> > >>> What I am trying to do is to increase or decrease indent by 0.25 > >>> inch everytime I click on the the "increase indent" icon or the > >>> "decrease indent" icon. Currently, the indent increases or > >>> decreases 1/6 inch. > >>> > >>> When I was using Word 2000, I could do it by changing default tab > >>> stop parameter from 0.5 inch to 0.25 inch. However, I cannot use > >>> this method for Word 2003. When I change the parameter of default > >>> tab stop, it does affect the tab function but not indenting > >>> function. > >>> The increase and decrease of indent seems to be following not the > >>> default tab stop parameter but the gridline. > >>> > >>> I would appreciate if someone can give me kind advice. > >>> > >>> Thank you very much. > > > >

Re: Word 2003: Changing the increase/decrease rate of the indent i "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill[ at ]mvps.org> 12/23/2005 9:17:56 PM The key Graham referred to is: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Word\Data -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "hayakaw1" <hayakaw1[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:121BD132-F9BF-42BE-8877-073CD5454A1E[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Thank you very much for your advice again. > > I found "Normal.dot" (the first character "N" was capitalized) and changed > the file name to "oldnormal.dot" (by using a non-capitalized letter "o" for > the first character). Then I restarted the computer, but I couldn't solve > the problem. > > When I attempted to resort to the secondary solution, I found three files > ("(default)", "Settings", and "Toolbars" respectively), but I am not sure > which file is "that" key you mentioned in your last e-mail. Could you > specify which file I must delete? > > Sorry for asking you questions over and over, but solving this problem is > very important (if I can't solve this, I may have to go back to Word 2000). > Thank you very much. > > "Graham Mayor" wrote: > > > Ensure Word is not running (it may be running in the background if you use > > Word as an editor for Outlook and Outlook is running - so close both Word > > and Outlook). > > > > To enable you to see exactly what you are doing open Windows Explorer then > > tools > folder options > view and check 'show hidden files and > folders' > > and uncheck 'hide extensions for known file types'. (You can always change > > them back later, but mistakes are made by not dealing with the correct files > > so I would recommend leaving it that way.) Then locate and rename normal.dot > > to oldnormal.dot (It is in the folder set at tools > options > file > > locations > user templates). > > > > See if this fixes the problem before moving on to the next part. > > > > The registry entry you listed is for Word 2000 and not 2003. > > The appropriate registry entry for Word 2003 is > > > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Word\Data > > > > You can delete that key (but ONLY that key). select it in the left Window of > > the registry editor, right click and delete it. > > > > When you restart Word, it will rebuild both the normal.dot file and the > > registry data key (to install defaults). You will have to reset some > > preferences, but you can use the organizer in Word to copy some preferences > > from the oldnormal.dot to the new normal.dot. > > > > Have a good Christmas! > > > > -- > > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > > Graham Mayor - Word MVP > > > > My web site www.gmayor.com > > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org > > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > > > > > > hayakaw1 wrote: > > > Thank you very much for your advice. > > > > > > Yes, I upgraded Office 2000 to Office 2003. I tried to locate the > > > "normal.dot" file but I couldn't --- All I could find was "Normal" > > > Microsoft Word Template. I turned on the appropriate radio button so > > > that the "find" command would do search through hidden files. Could > > > you tell me how to find "normal.dot"? > > > > > > I checked "www.gmayor.com" as you instructed. By using the registry > > > editer, I found "(default)", "FontInfoCache", and "User Data" at > > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\9.0\Word. File types are > > > respectively "REG_SZ", REG_BINARY", and "REG_DWORD". Do I need to > > > delete "User Data"? > > > > > > I would appreciate your kind advice. > > > > > > "Graham Mayor" wrote: > > > > > >> With Word 2003 (SP2) here, the indent increases by whatever you set > > >> the default tab stop to? > > >> When you upgraded, did you start with a clean install or did you > > >> upgrade 2000? If the latter, rename normal.dot (a hidden file) to > > >> oldnormal.dot and delete the Word data registry key (see > > >> http://www.gmayor.com/my_toolbars_are_missing.htm ) > > >> You can copy your macros/toolbars etc from old to new template, but > > >> you will have to rebuild your tools > options and autoformatting > > >> settings. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > > >> Graham Mayor - Word MVP > > >> > > >> My web site www.gmayor.com > > >> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org > > >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > > >> > > >> hayakaw1 wrote: > > >>> Hi. I have just moved from Word 2000 to Word 2003. > > >>> > > >>> What I am trying to do is to increase or decrease indent by 0.25 > > >>> inch everytime I click on the the "increase indent" icon or the > > >>> "decrease indent" icon. Currently, the indent increases or > > >>> decreases 1/6 inch. > > >>> > > >>> When I was using Word 2000, I could do it by changing default tab > > >>> stop parameter from 0.5 inch to 0.25 inch. However, I cannot use > > >>> this method for Word 2003. When I change the parameter of default > > >>> tab stop, it does affect the tab function but not indenting > > >>> function. > > >>> The increase and decrease of indent seems to be following not the > > >>> default tab stop parameter but the gridline. > > >>> > > >>> I would appreciate if someone can give me kind advice. > > >>> > > >>> Thank you very much. > > > > > > > >

Re: Word 2003: Changing the increase/decrease rate of the indent i hayakaw1 12/23/2005 9:58:01 PM Hi, Ms. Barnhill. I deleted "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Word\Data" but I couldn't solve the problem. In addition, "Normal.dot" was revived after I changed its file name to "oldnormal.dot" and the key I deleted was also automatically revived when I shut down Word 2003. I don't know what to do. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: [Quoted Text] > The key Graham referred to is: > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Word\Data > > -- > Suzanne S. Barnhill > Microsoft MVP (Word) > Words into Type > Fairhope, Alabama USA > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so > all may benefit. > > "hayakaw1" <hayakaw1[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:121BD132-F9BF-42BE-8877-073CD5454A1E[ at ]microsoft.com... > > Thank you very much for your advice again. > > > > I found "Normal.dot" (the first character "N" was capitalized) and changed > > the file name to "oldnormal.dot" (by using a non-capitalized letter "o" > for > > the first character). Then I restarted the computer, but I couldn't solve > > the problem. > > > > When I attempted to resort to the secondary solution, I found three files > > ("(default)", "Settings", and "Toolbars" respectively), but I am not sure > > which file is "that" key you mentioned in your last e-mail. Could you > > specify which file I must delete? > > > > Sorry for asking you questions over and over, but solving this problem is > > very important (if I can't solve this, I may have to go back to Word > 2000). > > Thank you very much. > > > > "Graham Mayor" wrote: > > > > > Ensure Word is not running (it may be running in the background if you > use > > > Word as an editor for Outlook and Outlook is running - so close both > Word > > > and Outlook). > > > > > > To enable you to see exactly what you are doing open Windows Explorer > then > > > tools > folder options > view and check 'show hidden files and > > folders' > > > and uncheck 'hide extensions for known file types'. (You can always > change > > > them back later, but mistakes are made by not dealing with the correct > files > > > so I would recommend leaving it that way.) Then locate and rename > normal.dot > > > to oldnormal.dot (It is in the folder set at tools > options > file > > > locations > user templates). > > > > > > See if this fixes the problem before moving on to the next part. > > > > > > The registry entry you listed is for Word 2000 and not 2003. > > > The appropriate registry entry for Word 2003 is > > > > > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Word\Data > > > > > > You can delete that key (but ONLY that key). select it in the left > Window of > > > the registry editor, right click and delete it. > > > > > > When you restart Word, it will rebuild both the normal.dot file and the > > > registry data key (to install defaults). You will have to reset some > > > preferences, but you can use the organizer in Word to copy some > preferences > > > from the oldnormal.dot to the new normal.dot. > > > > > > Have a good Christmas! > > > > > > -- > > > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > > > Graham Mayor - Word MVP > > > > > > My web site www.gmayor.com > > > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org > > > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > > > > > > > > > hayakaw1 wrote: > > > > Thank you very much for your advice. > > > > > > > > Yes, I upgraded Office 2000 to Office 2003. I tried to locate the > > > > "normal.dot" file but I couldn't --- All I could find was "Normal" > > > > Microsoft Word Template. I turned on the appropriate radio button so > > > > that the "find" command would do search through hidden files. Could > > > > you tell me how to find "normal.dot"? > > > > > > > > I checked "www.gmayor.com" as you instructed. By using the registry > > > > editer, I found "(default)", "FontInfoCache", and "User Data" at > > > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\9.0\Word. File types are > > > > respectively "REG_SZ", REG_BINARY", and "REG_DWORD". Do I need to > > > > delete "User Data"? > > > > > > > > I would appreciate your kind advice. > > > > > > > > "Graham Mayor" wrote: > > > > > > > >> With Word 2003 (SP2) here, the indent increases by whatever you set > > > >> the default tab stop to? > > > >> When you upgraded, did you start with a clean install or did you > > > >> upgrade 2000? If the latter, rename normal.dot (a hidden file) to > > > >> oldnormal.dot and delete the Word data registry key (see > > > >> http://www.gmayor.com/my_toolbars_are_missing.htm ) > > > >> You can copy your macros/toolbars etc from old to new template, but > > > >> you will have to rebuild your tools > options and autoformatting > > > >> settings. > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > > > >> Graham Mayor - Word MVP > > > >> > > > >> My web site www.gmayor.com > > > >> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org > > > >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > > > >> > > > >> hayakaw1 wrote: > > > >>> Hi. I have just moved from Word 2000 to Word 2003. > > > >>> > > > >>> What I am trying to do is to increase or decrease indent by 0.25 > > > >>> inch everytime I click on the the "increase indent" icon or the > > > >>> "decrease indent" icon. Currently, the indent increases or > > > >>> decreases 1/6 inch. > > > >>> > > > >>> When I was using Word 2000, I could do it by changing default tab > > > >>> stop parameter from 0.5 inch to 0.25 inch. However, I cannot use > > > >>> this method for Word 2003. When I change the parameter of default > > > >>> tab stop, it does affect the tab function but not indenting > > > >>> function. > > > >>> The increase and decrease of indent seems to be following not the > > > >>> default tab stop parameter but the gridline. > > > >>> > > > >>> I would appreciate if someone can give me kind advice. > > > >>> > > > >>> Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: Word 2003: Changing the increase/decrease rate of the indent i "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill[ at ]mvps.org> 12/23/2005 11:25:02 PM That's the whole idea. You force Word to generate a new, factory-default Normal.dot and Registry key. If this doesn't solve the problem, then the problem is not with Normal.dot or the Registry. Which leaves add-ins. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "hayakaw1" <hayakaw1[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:533A27E7-39E0-409E-861F-28FF163AEF85[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Hi, Ms. Barnhill. > > I deleted "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Word\Data" but I > couldn't solve the problem. In addition, "Normal.dot" was revived after I > changed its file name to "oldnormal.dot" and the key I deleted was also > automatically revived when I shut down Word 2003. > > I don't know what to do. > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: > > > The key Graham referred to is: > > > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Word\Data > > > > -- > > Suzanne S. Barnhill > > Microsoft MVP (Word) > > Words into Type > > Fairhope, Alabama USA > > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org > > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so > > all may benefit. > > > > "hayakaw1" <hayakaw1[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:121BD132-F9BF-42BE-8877-073CD5454A1E[ at ]microsoft.com... > > > Thank you very much for your advice again. > > > > > > I found "Normal.dot" (the first character "N" was capitalized) and changed > > > the file name to "oldnormal.dot" (by using a non-capitalized letter "o" > > for > > > the first character). Then I restarted the computer, but I couldn't solve > > > the problem. > > > > > > When I attempted to resort to the secondary solution, I found three files > > > ("(default)", "Settings", and "Toolbars" respectively), but I am not sure > > > which file is "that" key you mentioned in your last e-mail. Could you > > > specify which file I must delete? > > > > > > Sorry for asking you questions over and over, but solving this problem is > > > very important (if I can't solve this, I may have to go back to Word > > 2000). > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > > "Graham Mayor" wrote: > > > > > > > Ensure Word is not running (it may be running in the background if you > > use > > > > Word as an editor for Outlook and Outlook is running - so close both > > Word > > > > and Outlook). > > > > > > > > To enable you to see exactly what you are doing open Windows Explorer > > then > > > > tools > folder options > view and check 'show hidden files and > > > folders' > > > > and uncheck 'hide extensions for known file types'. (You can always > > change > > > > them back later, but mistakes are made by not dealing with the correct > > files > > > > so I would recommend leaving it that way.) Then locate and rename > > normal.dot > > > > to oldnormal.dot (It is in the folder set at tools > options > file > > > > locations > user templates). > > > > > > > > See if this fixes the problem before moving on to the next part. > > > > > > > > The registry entry you listed is for Word 2000 and not 2003. > > > > The appropriate registry entry for Word 2003 is > > > > > > > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Word\Data > > > > > > > > You can delete that key (but ONLY that key). select it in the left > > Window of > > > > the registry editor, right click and delete it. > > > > > > > > When you restart Word, it will rebuild both the normal.dot file and the > > > > registry data key (to install defaults). You will have to reset some > > > > preferences, but you can use the organizer in Word to copy some > > preferences > > > > from the oldnormal.dot to the new normal.dot. > > > > > > > > Have a good Christmas! > > > > > > > > -- > > > > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > > > > Graham Mayor - Word MVP > > > > > > > > My web site www.gmayor.com > > > > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org > > > > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > > > > > > > > > > > > hayakaw1 wrote: > > > > > Thank you very much for your advice. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I upgraded Office 2000 to Office 2003. I tried to locate the > > > > > "normal.dot" file but I couldn't --- All I could find was "Normal" > > > > > Microsoft Word Template. I turned on the appropriate radio button so > > > > > that the "find" command would do search through hidden files. Could > > > > > you tell me how to find "normal.dot"? > > > > > > > > > > I checked "www.gmayor.com" as you instructed. By using the registry > > > > > editer, I found "(default)", "FontInfoCache", and "User Data" at > > > > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\9.0\Word. File types are > > > > > respectively "REG_SZ", REG_BINARY", and "REG_DWORD". Do I need to > > > > > delete "User Data"? > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate your kind advice. > > > > > > > > > > "Graham Mayor" wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> With Word 2003 (SP2) here, the indent increases by whatever you set > > > > >> the default tab stop to? > > > > >> When you upgraded, did you start with a clean install or did you > > > > >> upgrade 2000? If the latter, rename normal.dot (a hidden file) to > > > > >> oldnormal.dot and delete the Word data registry key (see > > > > >> http://www.gmayor.com/my_toolbars_are_missing.htm ) > > > > >> You can copy your macros/toolbars etc from old to new template, but > > > > >> you will have to rebuild your tools > options and autoformatting > > > > >> settings. > > > > >> > > > > >> -- > > > > >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > > > > >> Graham Mayor - Word MVP > > > > >> > > > > >> My web site www.gmayor.com > > > > >> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org > > > > >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > > > > >> > > > > >> hayakaw1 wrote: > > > > >>> Hi. I have just moved from Word 2000 to Word 2003. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> What I am trying to do is to increase or decrease indent by 0.25 > > > > >>> inch everytime I click on the the "increase indent" icon or the > > > > >>> "decrease indent" icon. Currently, the indent increases or > > > > >>> decreases 1/6 inch. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> When I was using Word 2000, I could do it by changing default tab > > > > >>> stop parameter from 0.5 inch to 0.25 inch. However, I cannot use > > > > >>> this method for Word 2003. When I change the parameter of default > > > > >>> tab stop, it does affect the tab function but not indenting > > > > >>> function. > > > > >>> The increase and decrease of indent seems to be following not the > > > > >>> default tab stop parameter but the gridline. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I would appreciate if someone can give me kind advice. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: Word 2003: Changing the increase/decrease rate of the indent i hayakaw1 12/24/2005 4:19:02 AM I want to go back to the basic: what is controling the default indent increase/decrease level? Every time I click on "Increase Indent" icon, I get the following results: 1st click: 0.15" from the left 2nd click: 0.29" from the left 3rd click: 0.44" from the left 4th click: 0.58" from the left 5th click: 0.73" from the left 6th click: 0.88" from the left 7th click: 1.02" from the left What is contolling these parameters? How can I change them? Are the solutions suggested by Mr. Mayor and you meant to affect these parameters? Thank you very much for taking your valuable time for assisting me. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: [Quoted Text] > That's the whole idea. You force Word to generate a new, factory-default > Normal.dot and Registry key. If this doesn't solve the problem, then the > problem is not with Normal.dot or the Registry. Which leaves add-ins. > > -- > Suzanne S. Barnhill > Microsoft MVP (Word) > Words into Type > Fairhope, Alabama USA > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so > all may benefit. > > "hayakaw1" <hayakaw1[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:533A27E7-39E0-409E-861F-28FF163AEF85[ at ]microsoft.com... > > Hi, Ms. Barnhill. > > > > I deleted "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Word\Data" but > I > > couldn't solve the problem. In addition, "Normal.dot" was revived after I > > changed its file name to "oldnormal.dot" and the key I deleted was also > > automatically revived when I shut down Word 2003. > > > > I don't know what to do. > > > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: > > > > > The key Graham referred to is: > > > > > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Word\Data > > > > > > -- > > > Suzanne S. Barnhill > > > Microsoft MVP (Word) > > > Words into Type > > > Fairhope, Alabama USA > > > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org > > > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the > newsgroup so > > > all may benefit. > > > > > > "hayakaw1" <hayakaw1[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > news:121BD132-F9BF-42BE-8877-073CD5454A1E[ at ]microsoft.com... > > > > Thank you very much for your advice again. > > > > > > > > I found "Normal.dot" (the first character "N" was capitalized) and > changed > > > > the file name to "oldnormal.dot" (by using a non-capitalized letter > "o" > > > for > > > > the first character). Then I restarted the computer, but I couldn't > solve > > > > the problem. > > > > > > > > When I attempted to resort to the secondary solution, I found three > files > > > > ("(default)", "Settings", and "Toolbars" respectively), but I am not > sure > > > > which file is "that" key you mentioned in your last e-mail. Could you > > > > specify which file I must delete? > > > > > > > > Sorry for asking you questions over and over, but solving this problem > is > > > > very important (if I can't solve this, I may have to go back to Word > > > 2000). > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > "Graham Mayor" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Ensure Word is not running (it may be running in the background if > you > > > use > > > > > Word as an editor for Outlook and Outlook is running - so close both > > > Word > > > > > and Outlook). > > > > > > > > > > To enable you to see exactly what you are doing open Windows > Explorer > > > then > > > > > tools > folder options > view and check 'show hidden files and > > > > folders' > > > > > and uncheck 'hide extensions for known file types'. (You can always > > > change > > > > > them back later, but mistakes are made by not dealing with the > correct > > > files > > > > > so I would recommend leaving it that way.) Then locate and rename > > > normal.dot > > > > > to oldnormal.dot (It is in the folder set at tools > options > file > > > > > locations > user templates). > > > > > > > > > > See if this fixes the problem before moving on to the next part. > > > > > > > > > > The registry entry you listed is for Word 2000 and not 2003. > > > > > The appropriate registry entry for Word 2003 is > > > > > > > > > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Word\Data > > > > > > > > > > You can delete that key (but ONLY that key). select it in the left > > > Window of > > > > > the registry editor, right click and delete it. > > > > > > > > > > When you restart Word, it will rebuild both the normal.dot file and > the > > > > > registry data key (to install defaults). You will have to reset some > > > > > preferences, but you can use the organizer in Word to copy some > > > preferences > > > > > from the oldnormal.dot to the new normal.dot. > > > > > > > > > > Have a good Christmas! > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > > > > > Graham Mayor - Word MVP > > > > > > > > > > My web site www.gmayor.com > > > > > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org > > > > > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hayakaw1 wrote: > > > > > > Thank you very much for your advice. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I upgraded Office 2000 to Office 2003. I tried to locate the > > > > > > "normal.dot" file but I couldn't --- All I could find was "Normal" > > > > > > Microsoft Word Template. I turned on the appropriate radio button > so > > > > > > that the "find" command would do search through hidden files. > Could > > > > > > you tell me how to find "normal.dot"? > > > > > > > > > > > > I checked "www.gmayor.com" as you instructed. By using the > registry > > > > > > editer, I found "(default)", "FontInfoCache", and "User Data" at > > > > > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\9.0\Word. File types > are > > > > > > respectively "REG_SZ", REG_BINARY", and "REG_DWORD". Do I need to > > > > > > delete "User Data"? > > > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate your kind advice. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Graham Mayor" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> With Word 2003 (SP2) here, the indent increases by whatever you > set > > > > > >> the default tab stop to? > > > > > >> When you upgraded, did you start with a clean install or did you > > > > > >> upgrade 2000? If the latter, rename normal.dot (a hidden file) to > > > > > >> oldnormal.dot and delete the Word data registry key (see > > > > > >> http://www.gmayor.com/my_toolbars_are_missing.htm ) > > > > > >> You can copy your macros/toolbars etc from old to new template, > but > > > > > >> you will have to rebuild your tools > options and autoformatting > > > > > >> settings. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> -- > > > > > >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > > > > > >> Graham Mayor - Word MVP > > > > > >> > > > > > >> My web site www.gmayor.com > > > > > >> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org > > > > > >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> hayakaw1 wrote: > > > > > >>> Hi. I have just moved from Word 2000 to Word 2003. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> What I am trying to do is to increase or decrease indent by 0.25 > > > > > >>> inch everytime I click on the the "increase indent" icon or the > > > > > >>> "decrease indent" icon. Currently, the indent increases or > > > > > >>> decreases 1/6 inch. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> When I was using Word 2000, I could do it by changing default > tab > > > > > >>> stop parameter from 0.5 inch to 0.25 inch. However, I cannot > use > > > > > >>> this method for Word 2003. When I change the parameter of > default > > > > > >>> tab stop, it does affect the tab function but not indenting > > > > > >>> function. > > > > > >>> The increase and decrease of indent seems to be following not > the > > > > > >>> default tab stop parameter but the gridline. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> I would appreciate if someone can give me kind advice. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: Word 2003: Changing the increase/decrease rate of the indent i "Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]mvps.org> 12/24/2005 7:14:17 AM Apart from any influence by outside factors, such as add-ins, by deleting the registry data key and renaming normal.dot (the capitalization is irrelevant) you return Word to its install default settings, removing any changes that may have been introduced into Word 2000 and carried over by the upgrade. Now select format > tabs. Click the 'Clear all' button. Now add whatever setting you want to the default tab stops dialog.OK out of that, and the default tabs will be set at half an inch, unless you override them by a tab setting in the current paragraph style or for the particular paragraph by the format > tab dialog. Increase and decrease indent work by moving the indent in line with the *default* tabs and not with the paragraph style tab setting. You would find Word documents much easier to edit if you forgot about manual formatting and used paragraph styles with the layouts you require. -- <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> hayakaw1 wrote: [Quoted Text] > I want to go back to the basic: what is controling the default indent > increase/decrease level? Every time I click on "Increase Indent" > icon, I get the following results: > 1st click: 0.15" from the left > 2nd click: 0.29" from the left > 3rd click: 0.44" from the left > 4th click: 0.58" from the left > 5th click: 0.73" from the left > 6th click: 0.88" from the left > 7th click: 1.02" from the left > What is contolling these parameters? How can I change them? Are the > solutions suggested by Mr. Mayor and you meant to affect these > parameters? > > Thank you very much for taking your valuable time for assisting me. > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: > >> That's the whole idea. You force Word to generate a new, >> factory-default Normal.dot and Registry key. If this doesn't solve >> the problem, then the problem is not with Normal.dot or the >> Registry. Which leaves add-ins. >> >> -- >> Suzanne S. Barnhill >> Microsoft MVP (Word) >> Words into Type >> Fairhope, Alabama USA >> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org >> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the >> newsgroup so all may benefit. >> >> "hayakaw1" <hayakaw1[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:533A27E7-39E0-409E-861F-28FF163AEF85[ at ]microsoft.com... >>> Hi, Ms. Barnhill. >>> >>> I deleted >>> "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Word\Data" but I >>> couldn't solve the problem. In addition, "Normal.dot" was revived >>> after I changed its file name to "oldnormal.dot" and the key I >>> deleted was also automatically revived when I shut down Word 2003. >>> >>> I don't know what to do. >>> >>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: >>> >>>> The key Graham referred to is: >>>> >>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Word\Data >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Suzanne S. Barnhill >>>> Microsoft MVP (Word) >>>> Words into Type >>>> Fairhope, Alabama USA >>>> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org >>>> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the >>>> newsgroup so all may benefit. >>>> >>>> "hayakaw1" <hayakaw1[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>> news:121BD132-F9BF-42BE-8877-073CD5454A1E[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>> Thank you very much for your advice again. >>>>> >>>>> I found "Normal.dot" (the first character "N" was capitalized) >>>>> and changed the file name to "oldnormal.dot" (by using a >>>>> non-capitalized letter "o" for the first character). Then I >>>>> restarted the computer, but I couldn't solve the problem. >>>>> >>>>> When I attempted to resort to the secondary solution, I found >>>>> three files ("(default)", "Settings", and "Toolbars" >>>>> respectively), but I am not sure which file is "that" key you >>>>> mentioned in your last e-mail. Could you specify which file I >>>>> must delete? >>>>> >>>>> Sorry for asking you questions over and over, but solving this >>>>> problem is very important (if I can't solve this, I may have to >>>>> go back to Word 2000). Thank you very much. >>>>> >>>>> "Graham Mayor" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ensure Word is not running (it may be running in the background >>>>>> if you use Word as an editor for Outlook and Outlook is running >>>>>> - so close both Word and Outlook). >>>>>> >>>>>> To enable you to see exactly what you are doing open Windows >>>>>> Explorer then tools > folder options > view and check 'show >>>>>> hidden files and > folders' and uncheck 'hide extensions for >>>>>> known file types'. (You can always change them back later, but >>>>>> mistakes are made by not dealing with the correct files so I >>>>>> would recommend leaving it that way.) Then locate and rename >>>>>> normal.dot to oldnormal.dot (It is in the folder set at tools > >>>>>> options > file locations > user templates). >>>>>> >>>>>> See if this fixes the problem before moving on to the next part. >>>>>> >>>>>> The registry entry you listed is for Word 2000 and not 2003. >>>>>> The appropriate registry entry for Word 2003 is >>>>>> >>>>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Word\Data >>>>>> >>>>>> You can delete that key (but ONLY that key). select it in the >>>>>> left Window of the registry editor, right click and delete it. >>>>>> >>>>>> When you restart Word, it will rebuild both the normal.dot file >>>>>> and the registry data key (to install defaults). You will have >>>>>> to reset some preferences, but you can use the organizer in Word >>>>>> to copy some preferences from the oldnormal.dot to the new >>>>>> normal.dot. >>>>>> >>>>>> Have a good Christmas! >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP >>>>>> >>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> hayakaw1 wrote: >>>>>>> Thank you very much for your advice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, I upgraded Office 2000 to Office 2003. I tried to locate >>>>>>> the "normal.dot" file but I couldn't --- All I could find was >>>>>>> "Normal" Microsoft Word Template. I turned on the appropriate >>>>>>> radio button so that the "find" command would do search through >>>>>>> hidden files. Could you tell me how to find "normal.dot"? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I checked "www.gmayor.com" as you instructed. By using the >>>>>>> registry editer, I found "(default)", "FontInfoCache", and >>>>>>> "User Data" at >>>>>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\9.0\Word. File >>>>>>> types are respectively "REG_SZ", REG_BINARY", and "REG_DWORD". >>>>>>> Do I need to delete "User Data"? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would appreciate your kind advice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Graham Mayor" wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With Word 2003 (SP2) here, the indent increases by whatever >>>>>>>> you set the default tab stop to? >>>>>>>> When you upgraded, did you start with a clean install or did >>>>>>>> you upgrade 2000? If the latter, rename normal.dot (a hidden >>>>>>>> file) to oldnormal.dot and delete the Word data registry key >>>>>>>> (see http://www.gmayor.com/my_toolbars_are_missing.htm ) >>>>>>>> You can copy your macros/toolbars etc from old to new >>>>>>>> template, but you will have to rebuild your tools > options >>>>>>>> and autoformatting settings. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >>>>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hayakaw1 wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi. I have just moved from Word 2000 to Word 2003. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What I am trying to do is to increase or decrease indent by >>>>>>>>> 0.25 inch everytime I click on the the "increase indent" icon >>>>>>>>> or the "decrease indent" icon. Currently, the indent >>>>>>>>> increases or decreases 1/6 inch. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When I was using Word 2000, I could do it by changing default >>>>>>>>> tab stop parameter from 0.5 inch to 0.25 inch. However, I >>>>>>>>> cannot use this method for Word 2003. When I change the >>>>>>>>> parameter of default tab stop, it does affect the tab >>>>>>>>> function but not indenting function. >>>>>>>>> The increase and decrease of indent seems to be following not >>>>>>>>> the default tab stop parameter but the gridline. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would appreciate if someone can give me kind advice. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you very much.

Re: Word 2003: Changing the increase/decrease rate of the indent i hayakaw1 12/24/2005 10:19:02 AM Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Ms. Barnhill. I could solve the problem. I appreciate your patience with my questions. "Graham Mayor" wrote: [Quoted Text] > Apart from any influence by outside factors, such as add-ins, by deleting > the registry data key and renaming normal.dot (the capitalization is > irrelevant) you return Word to its install default settings, removing any > changes that may have been introduced into Word 2000 and carried over by the > upgrade. > > Now select format > tabs. Click the 'Clear all' button. Now add whatever > setting you want to the default tab stops dialog.OK out of that, and the > default tabs will be set at half an inch, unless you override them by a tab > setting in the current paragraph style or for the particular paragraph by > the format > tab dialog. > > Increase and decrease indent work by moving the indent in line with the > *default* tabs and not with the paragraph style tab setting. > > You would find Word documents much easier to edit if you forgot about manual > formatting and used paragraph styles with the layouts you require. > > -- > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > Graham Mayor - Word MVP > > My web site www.gmayor.com > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > > > hayakaw1 wrote: > > I want to go back to the basic: what is controling the default indent > > increase/decrease level? Every time I click on "Increase Indent" > > icon, I get the following results: > > 1st click: 0.15" from the left > > 2nd click: 0.29" from the left > > 3rd click: 0.44" from the left > > 4th click: 0.58" from the left > > 5th click: 0.73" from the left > > 6th click: 0.88" from the left > > 7th click: 1.02" from the left > > What is contolling these parameters? How can I change them? Are the > > solutions suggested by Mr. Mayor and you meant to affect these > > parameters? > > > > Thank you very much for taking your valuable time for assisting me. > > > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: > > > >> That's the whole idea. You force Word to generate a new, > >> factory-default Normal.dot and Registry key. If this doesn't solve > >> the problem, then the problem is not with Normal.dot or the > >> Registry. Which leaves add-ins. > >> > >> -- > >> Suzanne S. Barnhill > >> Microsoft MVP (Word) > >> Words into Type > >> Fairhope, Alabama USA > >> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org > >> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the > >> newsgroup so all may benefit. > >> > >> "hayakaw1" <hayakaw1[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:533A27E7-39E0-409E-861F-28FF163AEF85[ at ]microsoft.com... > >>> Hi, Ms. Barnhill. > >>> > >>> I deleted > >>> "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Word\Data" but I > >>> couldn't solve the problem. In addition, "Normal.dot" was revived > >>> after I changed its file name to "oldnormal.dot" and the key I > >>> deleted was also automatically revived when I shut down Word 2003. > >>> > >>> I don't know what to do. > >>> > >>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: > >>> > >>>> The key Graham referred to is: > >>>> > >>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Word\Data > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Suzanne S. Barnhill > >>>> Microsoft MVP (Word) > >>>> Words into Type > >>>> Fairhope, Alabama USA > >>>> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org > >>>> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the > >>>> newsgroup so all may benefit. > >>>> > >>>> "hayakaw1" <hayakaw1[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >>>> news:121BD132-F9BF-42BE-8877-073CD5454A1E[ at ]microsoft.com... > >>>>> Thank you very much for your advice again. > >>>>> > >>>>> I found "Normal.dot" (the first character "N" was capitalized) > >>>>> and changed the file name to "oldnormal.dot" (by using a > >>>>> non-capitalized letter "o" for the first character). Then I > >>>>> restarted the computer, but I couldn't solve the problem. > >>>>> > >>>>> When I attempted to resort to the secondary solution, I found > >>>>> three files ("(default)", "Settings", and "Toolbars" > >>>>> respectively), but I am not sure which file is "that" key you > >>>>> mentioned in your last e-mail. Could you specify which file I > >>>>> must delete? > >>>>> > >>>>> Sorry for asking you questions over and over, but solving this > >>>>> problem is very important (if I can't solve this, I may have to > >>>>> go back to Word 2000). Thank you very much. > >>>>> > >>>>> "Graham Mayor" wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Ensure Word is not running (it may be running in the background > >>>>>> if you use Word as an editor for Outlook and Outlook is running > >>>>>> - so close both Word and Outlook). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> To enable you to see exactly what you are doing open Windows > >>>>>> Explorer then tools > folder options > view and check 'show > >>>>>> hidden files and > folders' and uncheck 'hide extensions for > >>>>>> known file types'. (You can always change them back later, but > >>>>>> mistakes are made by not dealing with the correct files so I > >>>>>> would recommend leaving it that way.) Then locate and rename > >>>>>> normal.dot to oldnormal.dot (It is in the folder set at tools > > >>>>>> options > file locations > user templates). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> See if this fixes the problem before moving on to the next part. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The registry entry you listed is for Word 2000 and not 2003. > >>>>>> The appropriate registry entry for Word 2003 is > >>>>>> > >>>>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Word\Data > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You can delete that key (but ONLY that key). select it in the > >>>>>> left Window of the registry editor, right click and delete it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> When you restart Word, it will rebuild both the normal.dot file > >>>>>> and the registry data key (to install defaults). You will have > >>>>>> to reset some preferences, but you can use the organizer in Word > >>>>>> to copy some preferences from the oldnormal.dot to the new > >>>>>> normal.dot. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Have a good Christmas! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > >>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP > >>>>>> > >>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com > >>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org > >>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> hayakaw1 wrote: > >>>>>>> Thank you very much for your advice. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Yes, I upgraded Office 2000 to Office 2003. I tried to locate > >>>>>>> the "normal.dot" file but I couldn't --- All I could find was > >>>>>>> "Normal" Microsoft Word Template. I turned on the appropriate > >>>>>>> radio button so that the "find" command would do search through > >>>>>>> hidden files. Could you tell me how to find "normal.dot"? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I checked "www.gmayor.com" as you instructed. By using the > >>>>>>> registry editer, I found "(default)", "FontInfoCache", and > >>>>>>> "User Data" at > >>>>>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\9.0\Word. File > >>>>>>> types are respectively "REG_SZ", REG_BINARY", and "REG_DWORD". > >>>>>>> Do I need to delete "User Data"? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I would appreciate your kind advice. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "Graham Mayor" wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> With Word 2003 (SP2) here, the indent increases by whatever > >>>>>>>> you set the default tab stop to? > >>>>>>>> When you upgraded, did you start with a clean install or did > >>>>>>>> you upgrade 2000? If the latter, rename normal.dot (a hidden > >>>>>>>> file) to oldnormal.dot and delete the Word data registry key > >>>>>>>> (see http://www.gmayor.com/my_toolbars_are_missing.htm ) > >>>>>>>> You can copy your macros/toolbars etc from old to new > >>>>>>>> template, but you will have to rebuild your tools > options > >>>>>>>> and autoformatting settings. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > >>>>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com > >>>>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org > >>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> hayakaw1 wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Hi. I have just moved from Word 2000 to Word 2003. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> What I am trying to do is to increase or decrease indent by > >>>>>>>>> 0.25 inch everytime I click on the the "increase indent" icon > >>>>>>>>> or the "decrease indent" icon. Currently, the indent > >>>>>>>>> increases or decreases 1/6 inch. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> When I was using Word 2000, I could do it by changing default > >>>>>>>>> tab stop parameter from 0.5 inch to 0.25 inch. However, I > >>>>>>>>> cannot use this method for Word 2003. When I change the > >>>>>>>>> parameter of default tab stop, it does affect the tab > >>>>>>>>> function but not indenting function. > >>>>>>>>> The increase and decrease of indent seems to be following not > >>>>>>>>> the default tab stop parameter but the gridline. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I would appreciate if someone can give me kind advice. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you very much. > > >

Re: Word 2003: Changing the increase/decrease rate of the indent i Rose 12/22/2008 9:58:00 PM I am using Word 2003 and having the same problem. I have changed the default tab in both the paragraph style and in Format>Tabs to .25", but Tab still gives me a .50" indent. "Graham Mayor" wrote: [Quoted Text] > Apart from any influence by outside factors, such as add-ins, by deleting > the registry data key and renaming normal.dot (the capitalization is > irrelevant) you return Word to its install default settings, removing any > changes that may have been introduced into Word 2000 and carried over by the > upgrade. > > Now select format > tabs. Click the 'Clear all' button. Now add whatever > setting you want to the default tab stops dialog.OK out of that, and the > default tabs will be set at half an inch, unless you override them by a tab > setting in the current paragraph style or for the particular paragraph by > the format > tab dialog. > > Increase and decrease indent work by moving the indent in line with the > *default* tabs and not with the paragraph style tab setting. > > You would find Word documents much easier to edit if you forgot about manual > formatting and used paragraph styles with the layouts you require. > > -- > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > Graham Mayor - Word MVP > > My web site www.gmayor.com > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > > > hayakaw1 wrote: > > I want to go back to the basic: what is controling the default indent > > increase/decrease level? Every time I click on "Increase Indent" > > icon, I get the following results: > > 1st click: 0.15" from the left > > 2nd click: 0.29" from the left > > 3rd click: 0.44" from the left > > 4th click: 0.58" from the left > > 5th click: 0.73" from the left > > 6th click: 0.88" from the left > > 7th click: 1.02" from the left > > What is contolling these parameters? How can I change them? Are the > > solutions suggested by Mr. Mayor and you meant to affect these > > parameters? > > > > Thank you very much for taking your valuable time for assisting me. > > > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: > > > >> That's the whole idea. You force Word to generate a new, > >> factory-default Normal.dot and Registry key. If this doesn't solve > >> the problem, then the problem is not with Normal.dot or the > >> Registry. Which leaves add-ins. > >> > >> -- > >> Suzanne S. Barnhill > >> Microsoft MVP (Word) > >> Words into Type > >> Fairhope, Alabama USA > >> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org > >> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the > >> newsgroup so all may benefit. > >> > >> "hayakaw1" <hayakaw1[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:533A27E7-39E0-409E-861F-28FF163AEF85[ at ]microsoft.com... > >>> Hi, Ms. Barnhill. > >>> > >>> I deleted > >>> "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Word\Data" but I > >>> couldn't solve the problem. In addition, "Normal.dot" was revived > >>> after I changed its file name to "oldnormal.dot" and the key I > >>> deleted was also automatically revived when I shut down Word 2003. > >>> > >>> I don't know what to do. > >>> > >>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: > >>> > >>>> The key Graham referred to is: > >>>> > >>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Word\Data > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Suzanne S. Barnhill > >>>> Microsoft MVP (Word) > >>>> Words into Type > >>>> Fairhope, Alabama USA > >>>> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org > >>>> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the > >>>> newsgroup so all may benefit. > >>>> > >>>> "hayakaw1" <hayakaw1[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >>>> news:121BD132-F9BF-42BE-8877-073CD5454A1E[ at ]microsoft.com... > >>>>> Thank you very much for your advice again. > >>>>> > >>>>> I found "Normal.dot" (the first character "N" was capitalized) > >>>>> and changed the file name to "oldnormal.dot" (by using a > >>>>> non-capitalized letter "o" for the first character). Then I > >>>>> restarted the computer, but I couldn't solve the problem. > >>>>> > >>>>> When I attempted to resort to the secondary solution, I found > >>>>> three files ("(default)", "Settings", and "Toolbars" > >>>>> respectively), but I am not sure which file is "that" key you > >>>>> mentioned in your last e-mail. Could you specify which file I > >>>>> must delete? > >>>>> > >>>>> Sorry for asking you questions over and over, but solving this > >>>>> problem is very important (if I can't solve this, I may have to > >>>>> go back to Word 2000). Thank you very much. > >>>>> > >>>>> "Graham Mayor" wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Ensure Word is not running (it may be running in the background > >>>>>> if you use Word as an editor for Outlook and Outlook is running > >>>>>> - so close both Word and Outlook). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> To enable you to see exactly what you are doing open Windows > >>>>>> Explorer then tools > folder options > view and check 'show > >>>>>> hidden files and > folders' and uncheck 'hide extensions for > >>>>>> known file types'. (You can always change them back later, but > >>>>>> mistakes are made by not dealing with the correct files so I > >>>>>> would recommend leaving it that way.) Then locate and rename > >>>>>> normal.dot to oldnormal.dot (It is in the folder set at tools > > >>>>>> options > file locations > user templates). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> See if this fixes the problem before moving on to the next part. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The registry entry you listed is for Word 2000 and not 2003. > >>>>>> The appropriate registry entry for Word 2003 is > >>>>>> > >>>>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Word\Data > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You can delete that key (but ONLY that key). select it in the > >>>>>> left Window of the registry editor, right click and delete it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> When you restart Word, it will rebuild both the normal.dot file > >>>>>> and the registry data key (to install defaults). You will have > >>>>>> to reset some preferences, but you can use the organizer in Word > >>>>>> to copy some preferences from the oldnormal.dot to the new > >>>>>> normal.dot. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Have a good Christmas! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > >>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP > >>>>>> > >>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com > >>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org > >>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> hayakaw1 wrote: > >>>>>>> Thank you very much for your advice. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Yes, I upgraded Office 2000 to Office 2003. I tried to locate > >>>>>>> the "normal.dot" file but I couldn't --- All I could find was > >>>>>>> "Normal" Microsoft Word Template. I turned on the appropriate > >>>>>>> radio button so that the "find" command would do search through > >>>>>>> hidden files. Could you tell me how to find "normal.dot"? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I checked "www.gmayor.com" as you instructed. By using the > >>>>>>> registry editer, I found "(default)", "FontInfoCache", and > >>>>>>> "User Data" at > >>>>>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\9.0\Word. File > >>>>>>> types are respectively "REG_SZ", REG_BINARY", and "REG_DWORD". > >>>>>>> Do I need to delete "User Data"? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I would appreciate your kind advice. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "Graham Mayor" wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> With Word 2003 (SP2) here, the indent increases by whatever > >>>>>>>> you set the default tab stop to? > >>>>>>>> When you upgraded, did you start with a clean install or did > >>>>>>>> you upgrade 2000? If the latter, rename normal.dot (a hidden > >>>>>>>> file) to oldnormal.dot and delete the Word data registry key > >>>>>>>> (see http://www.gmayor.com/my_toolbars_are_missing.htm ) > >>>>>>>> You can copy your macros/toolbars etc from old to new > >>>>>>>> template, but you will have to rebuild your tools > options > >>>>>>>> and autoformatting settings. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > >>>>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com > >>>>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org > >>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> hayakaw1 wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Hi. I have just moved from Word 2000 to Word 2003. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> What I am trying to do is to increase or decrease indent by > >>>>>>>>> 0.25 inch everytime I click on the the "increase indent" icon > >>>>>>>>> or the "decrease indent" icon. Currently, the indent > >>>>>>>>> increases or decreases 1/6 inch. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> When I was using Word 2000, I could do it by changing default > >>>>>>>>> tab stop parameter from 0.5 inch to 0.25 inch. However, I > >>>>>>>>> cannot use this method for Word 2003. When I change the > >>>>>>>>> parameter of default tab stop, it does affect the tab > >>>>>>>>> function but not indenting function. > >>>>>>>>> The increase and decrease of indent seems to be following not > >>>>>>>>> the default tab stop parameter but the gridline. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I would appreciate if someone can give me kind advice. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you very much. > > >