So why should buy ON2007 ? "Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell" <seegod1[ at ]cogeco.ca> 1/30/2007 7:09:37 PM Okay, so I bought a tablet back in October, which came with a free copy of ON2003. So the new version is out today: why should I bother buying it? I look forward to hearing back from you all. C.

Re: So why should buy ON2007 ? "John Waller" <johnw[ at ]REMOVETHISpinnacleweb.com.au> 1/30/2007 7:46:26 PM Presumably you've read through Microsoft's material? http://office.microsoft.com/en-au/onenote/HA101650631033.aspx See "I'm using OneNote 2003. Why should I upgrade to Office OneNote 2007?" -- Regards John Waller

Re: So why should buy ON2007 ? Erik Gulbrandsen <erik_gulbrandsen_bogus_email[ at ]bogusaddress.com> 1/30/2007 7:49:21 PM Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell wrote: [Quoted Text] > Okay, so I bought a tablet back in October, which came with a free copy of > ON2003. > So the new version is out today: why should I bother buying it? > I look forward to hearing back from you all. > > C. > > Oh my goodness...this reply could take me hours to write... I will highlight some HUGE features fixes or changes (this is not exhaustive): 1. Notebooks! instead of random haphazard organization, you have notebooks that can be opened and closed. 2. Shared notebooks! Are you worried about having your tablet crash and then losing your notes? How about just having it sync to your desktop, with no effort on your part! 3. OCR--this allows for searching of images that have text (powerpoint prinouts, well, any printouts). 4. Lots of custom tags 5. FULL SCREEN VIEW! very nice feature 6. Custom pen--I wish there were more customizable pens, but, oh well. 7. Drawing tools--very nice, more for non-tablet users, though 8. Printouts can be resized, moved, deleted, copied...whatever the heck you want. 9. you can select the printout and copy the text from the image and paste it as a text file. 10. TABLE SUPPORT! quite frankly, I don't use excel anymore (unless I need calc functions). The auto format feature of the tables in ON is awesome (try adding in lots of data, and then resize the container--very intelligent) 11. Integration with Outlook--keeps me very organized 12. Better audio support--you can drop an audio file in the program, and then press play. It will sync the notes with the audio. So, it is very different from 2003. WIth 2003, you could only record. In 2007, you annotate. Meaning, you can fast forward, rewind, pause without causing a "break" in your mp3 or wma. 13. Audio searching. I don't use this, because I have 8 hours of lecture a day, which would take 24 hours to index the audio. However, now that I sync notes with my desktop, I think I'm going to install the audio search on the desktop, because it is on 24/7 anyway and not doing much. 14. Drag and drop from the internet with a link back to the website--very cool for research (eat your heart out, google notebook). 15. BUG FIXES!!!!!!!!!! Have you ever wondered where some of your inking goes just under the title header in the note? Disappears randomly. Ya, this doens't happen. Or, how about resizing of your inking whenever ON decides it is good to resize? Doesn't happen in 2007. Scrolling? takes forever in 2003. Super fast in 2007. Tag search not jumping you to the right spot in the page? Completely fixed in 2007. 16. SUPER FAST SEARCH. Like I said, this is not exhaustive at all. These are just some of the things that I remember that I use all the time. OneNote 2003 was the alpha version for Onenote 2007 (in my mind, at least). erik btw, anybody else using ON as a file repository? It is so nice, because I can name the files whatever I want, because I can put a description right below the file. Very nice "unintended" feature of OneNote. -- subscribe to my OneNote blog: here <http://www.erikpaul.net/index2.php?option=ds-syndicate&version=1&feed_id=4> submit requests for OneNote 14: here <http://www.erikpaul.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=7> my home page http://www.erikpaul.net

Re: So why should buy ON2007 ? "Kathy Jacobs" <call_kathy[ at ]knot.cox.net> 1/30/2007 8:07:22 PM Adding on to Erik's great list: - 100 Tags (formerly flags) defined at once - Better then ever introductory documentation - Napkin math: type in a formula, hit the equals sign and the space bar... get the answer - Print to OneNote from any app, then have it instantly searchable - Multiple language support on search (for example: Print to OneNote something that is in Spanish on an English system and you can tell OneNote to make the text searchable as Spanish I too could go on, but I'll let someone else take over from here... (And if you want to see it in action, Betsy Weber from TechSmith did a screen cast with me on OneNote 2007. Find it on her blog at: http://www.techsmith.com/community/blogcomments.asp?thread=275 ) -- Kathy Jacobs, Microsoft MVP OneNote and PowerPoint Author of Kathy Jacobs on PowerPoint Get PowerPoint and OneNote information at www.onppt.com I believe life is meant to be lived. But: if we live without making a difference, it makes no difference that we lived "Erik Gulbrandsen" <erik_gulbrandsen_bogus_email[ at ]bogusaddress.com> wrote in message news:12rv8a3i9qnim40[ at ]corp.supernews.com... [Quoted Text] > Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell wrote: >> Okay, so I bought a tablet back in October, which came with a free copy >> of ON2003. >> So the new version is out today: why should I bother buying it? >> I look forward to hearing back from you all. >> >> C. > > Oh my goodness...this reply could take me hours to write... > > I will highlight some HUGE features fixes or changes (this is not > exhaustive): > > 1. Notebooks! instead of random haphazard organization, you have > notebooks that can be opened and closed. > 2. Shared notebooks! Are you worried about having your tablet crash and > then losing your notes? How about just having it sync to your desktop, > with no effort on your part! > 3. OCR--this allows for searching of images that have text (powerpoint > prinouts, well, any printouts). > 4. Lots of custom tags > 5. FULL SCREEN VIEW! very nice feature > 6. Custom pen--I wish there were more customizable pens, but, oh well. > 7. Drawing tools--very nice, more for non-tablet users, though > 8. Printouts can be resized, moved, deleted, copied...whatever the heck > you want. > 9. you can select the printout and copy the text from the image and paste > it as a text file. > 10. TABLE SUPPORT! quite frankly, I don't use excel anymore (unless I > need calc functions). The auto format feature of the tables in ON is > awesome (try adding in lots of data, and then resize the container--very > intelligent) > 11. Integration with Outlook--keeps me very organized > 12. Better audio support--you can drop an audio file in the program, and > then press play. It will sync the notes with the audio. So, it is very > different from 2003. WIth 2003, you could only record. In 2007, you > annotate. Meaning, you can fast forward, rewind, pause without causing a > "break" in your mp3 or wma. > 13. Audio searching. I don't use this, because I have 8 hours of lecture > a day, which would take 24 hours to index the audio. However, now that I > sync notes with my desktop, I think I'm going to install the audio search > on the desktop, because it is on 24/7 anyway and not doing much. > 14. Drag and drop from the internet with a link back to the website--very > cool for research (eat your heart out, google notebook). > 15. BUG FIXES!!!!!!!!!! Have you ever wondered where some of your inking > goes just under the title header in the note? Disappears randomly. Ya, > this doens't happen. Or, how about resizing of your inking whenever ON > decides it is good to resize? Doesn't happen in 2007. Scrolling? takes > forever in 2003. Super fast in 2007. Tag search not jumping you to the > right spot in the page? Completely fixed in 2007. > 16. SUPER FAST SEARCH. > > Like I said, this is not exhaustive at all. These are just some of the > things that I remember that I use all the time. OneNote 2003 was the > alpha version for Onenote 2007 (in my mind, at least). > > erik > > btw, anybody else using ON as a file repository? It is so nice, because I > can name the files whatever I want, because I can put a description right > below the file. Very nice "unintended" feature of OneNote. > > -- > subscribe to my OneNote blog: here > > <http://www.erikpaul.net/index2.php?option=ds-syndicate&version=1&feed_id=4> > submit requests for OneNote 14: here > <http://www.erikpaul.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=7> > my home page http://www.erikpaul.net

Re: So why should buy ON2007 ? "Erik Sojka (MVP)" <esojka[ at ]ms-onenote.net.nospam> 1/30/2007 9:09:32 PM It is a huge improvement over 2003: Note organization (multiple Notebooks), collaboration (Shared Notebooks), drawing tools, full drag and drop, improved Ink parsing. You will wonder what you did without it! Some more listings of new features here: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/onenote/FX101759221033.aspx "Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell" <seegod1[ at ]cogeco.ca> wrote in news:#ZtUvIKRHHA.1364[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl: [Quoted Text] > Okay, so I bought a tablet back in October, which came with a free > copy of ON2003. > So the new version is out today: why should I bother buying it? > I look forward to hearing back from you all. > > C. > > >

Re: So why should buy ON2007 ? "Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell" <seegod1[ at ]cogeco.ca> 1/31/2007 2:06:11 AM John, Erik, Kathy and Erik... Thanks for all your input! I'll go have a good look around. Certainly some of the features sound very appealing. I also use software called Libronix and 2007 can link to it but 2003 can't ... so I can see a move happening anyway... I just want to make sure I'm getting my money's worth. C. "Erik Sojka (MVP)" <esojka[ at ]ms-onenote.net.nospam> wrote in message news:utxSxLLRHHA.4260[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > It is a huge improvement over 2003: > Note organization (multiple Notebooks), collaboration (Shared Notebooks), > drawing tools, full drag and drop, improved Ink parsing. You will wonder > what you did without it! > > Some more listings of new features here: > http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/onenote/FX101759221033.aspx > > > > "Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell" <seegod1[ at ]cogeco.ca> wrote in > news:#ZtUvIKRHHA.1364[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl: > >> Okay, so I bought a tablet back in October, which came with a free >> copy of ON2003. >> So the new version is out today: why should I bother buying it? >> I look forward to hearing back from you all. >> >> C. >> >> >> >

Re: So why should buy ON2007 ? Judy Reese <judyreese[ at ]comcast.net> 1/31/2007 3:12:58 PM Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell wrote: [Quoted Text] > John, Erik, Kathy and Erik... > > Thanks for all your input! I'll go have a good look around. Certainly some > of the features sound very appealing. I also use software called Libronix > and 2007 can link to it but 2003 can't ... so I can see a move happening > anyway... I just want to make sure I'm getting my money's worth. > Carmen, I use the Libronix Digital Libray System, vs 3. Is that the software you use? If so, I'd be interested in what you're talking about re linking with ON 2007. I hadn't come across that. Thanks! Judy

Re: So why should buy ON2007 ? OneDave 1/31/2007 8:39:06 PM I share Patrick's enthusiasm about 2007 but strongly hope you maintain a 2003 fallback as he suggests. There area few 2003 "features" that have been removed or altered in 2007--to its detriment. Run both versions in parallel if you can. Examples include a loss of the clear mapping of ON "pages" to printed output ''pages" and, likewise, of imported input pages to their original size. If you import a multi-page document into 2007, you probably can't just immediately print the resulting ON page and get back to your original document. Importing makes pages smaller than their original and printing them out again gives you odd page breaks. If you use subpages a lot in 2003, you will be disappointed with their loss of functionality in 2007. When 2007 added the ability to have multiple ON notebooks, it dumbed down subpages. For instance, audio recordings want span a page to its subpages. -- Thanks Dave "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote: [Quoted Text] > Actually, the dependency of you on 2007 will be a much greater issue > than the file format one :) Once you have experienced 2007, you don't > want 2003 anymore... > > Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP] > -------------- > http://pschmid.net > *** > Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80 > *** > Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize > RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer > OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote > *** > Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed > > "Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell" <seegod1[ at ]cogeco.ca> wrote in message > news:eCUVrITRHHA.4896[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl: > > > Thanks Patrick! My only issue will downloading the trial is that they KNOW > > it will create a dependency... the b......ds ! :-) > > > > Oh well, in for a penny, in for a pound, I suppose. > > > > C. > > > > "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" <pdschmid[ at ]nospam.mvps.org> wrote in message > > news:OcRBtPORHHA.1212[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > If you really want to make sure you get your money's worth, then get the > > > trial version from http://trymicrosoftoffice.com > > > I would suggest to fully backup your ON 2003 notes before you install it > > > and make sure to keep 2003 installed (so no upgrade installation). Also, > > > don't let it upgrade your 2003 notes to the 2007 format. Rather, once it's > > > open, close all notebooks and make a new 2007 notebook that you are going > > > to use to play with 2007. > > > I am saying this because there is no good way to get notes from 2007 back > > > into 2003. So if you upgrade your notes and use 2007 for those notes for a > > > while, you are locking yourself into buying it essentially. Once you have > > > used 2007 though, you are not going to complain about that, because I am > > > pretty sure that you wouldn't want to go back ;) > > > > > > Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP] > > > -------------- > > > http://pschmid.net > > > *** > > > Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80 > > > *** > > > Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize > > > RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer > > > OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote > > > *** > > > Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed > > > > > > "Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell" <seegod1[ at ]cogeco.ca> wrote in message > > > news:Omk5gxNRHHA.3500[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl: > > > > > >> John, Erik, Kathy and Erik... > > >> > > >> Thanks for all your input! I'll go have a good look around. Certainly > > >> some > > >> of the features sound very appealing. I also use software called Libronix > > >> and 2007 can link to it but 2003 can't ... so I can see a move happening > > >> anyway... I just want to make sure I'm getting my money's worth. > > >> > > >> C. > > >> > > >> "Erik Sojka (MVP)" <esojka[ at ]ms-onenote.net.nospam> wrote in message > > >> news:utxSxLLRHHA.4260[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > >> > It is a huge improvement over 2003: > > >> > Note organization (multiple Notebooks), collaboration (Shared > > >> > Notebooks), > > >> > drawing tools, full drag and drop, improved Ink parsing. You will > > >> > wonder > > >> > what you did without it! > > >> > > > >> > Some more listings of new features here: > > >> > http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/onenote/FX101759221033.aspx > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > "Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell" <seegod1[ at ]cogeco.ca> wrote in > > >> > news:#ZtUvIKRHHA.1364[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl: > > >> > > > >> >> Okay, so I bought a tablet back in October, which came with a free > > >> >> copy of ON2003. > > >> >> So the new version is out today: why should I bother buying it? > > >> >> I look forward to hearing back from you all. > > >> >> > > >> >> C. > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > > > > >

Re: So why should buy ON2007 ? Erik Gulbrandsen <erik_gulbrandsen_bogus_email[ at ]bogusaddress.com> 1/31/2007 9:36:51 PM OneDave wrote: [Quoted Text] > I share Patrick's enthusiasm about 2007 but strongly hope you maintain a 2003 > fallback as he suggests. There area few 2003 "features" that have been > removed or altered in 2007--to its detriment. Run both versions in parallel > if you can. > > Examples include a loss of the clear mapping of ON "pages" to printed output > ''pages" and, likewise, of imported input pages to their original size. If > you import a multi-page document into 2007, you probably can't just > immediately print the resulting ON page and get back to your original > document. Importing makes pages smaller than their original and printing them > out again gives you odd page breaks. > > If you use subpages a lot in 2003, you will be disappointed with their loss > of functionality in 2007. When 2007 added the ability to have multiple ON > notebooks, it dumbed down subpages. For instance, audio recordings want span > a page to its subpages. From the sound of it, you are printing in tablet mode. Print in landscape (not portrait) and your size problem will be solved. I don't understand what you mean by page breaks worse in 2007. I actually find it to be much better. The only thing that is dumbed down about subpages is the audio. Stop the audio. Move to a new page, and start it up again. That is my workaround. erik -- subscribe to my OneNote blog: here <http://www.erikpaul.net/index2.php?option=ds-syndicate&version=1&feed_id=4> submit requests for OneNote 14: here <http://www.erikpaul.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=7> my home page http://www.erikpaul.net

Re: So why should buy ON2007 ? "Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell" <seegod1[ at ]cogeco.ca> 2/1/2007 1:13:47 AM Judy: In the news.logos.com newsgroup under General, there are posts starting on January 16th that explain that ON2007 can hyperlink to Libronix, but ON2003 can't. Those posts should explain pretty much everything to you. C. "Judy Reese" <judyreese[ at ]comcast.net> wrote in message news:%23DWFLpURHHA.4476[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell wrote: >> John, Erik, Kathy and Erik... >> >> Thanks for all your input! I'll go have a good look around. Certainly >> some of the features sound very appealing. I also use software called >> Libronix and 2007 can link to it but 2003 can't ... so I can see a move >> happening anyway... I just want to make sure I'm getting my money's >> worth. >> > Carmen, > > I use the Libronix Digital Libray System, vs 3. Is that the software you > use? If so, I'd be interested in what you're talking about re linking with > ON 2007. I hadn't come across that. > > Thanks! > Judy

Re: So why should buy ON2007 ? Judy Reese <judyreese[ at ]comcast.net> 2/2/2007 12:34:32 AM Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell wrote: [Quoted Text] > Judy: > > In the news.logos.com newsgroup under General, there are posts starting on > January 16th that explain that ON2007 can hyperlink to Libronix, but ON2003 > can't. Those posts should explain pretty much everything to you. > > C. Thanks! I'll check it out. Judy

Re: So why should buy ON2007 ? OneDave 2/22/2007 2:42:00 AM Hi Eric, What is "tablet mode" printing? Maybe I missed a ON setting. I should not need to print portrait-oriented ON content as landscape in order to see the right page width (and causing a wrong page length). What I meant by 2007 losing the association between ON pages and printed pages can best be illustrated by this exercise: Take a few pages of 8 1/2 x 11-inch content and print them hard copy to your printer (not via ON--for example, I use PDF/Adobe Reader). Then, import the content onto a ON 2007 page. I use the 'Send to OneNote 2007 printer' driver to send my PDF original pages into ON. Don't edit your ON page. Now print your ON page as hard-copy onto 8 1/2 x 11-inch paper using ON's print feature (with footer set to none). Compare the original hard copy pages to the ON-generated hard copy pages. You will see changed margins, such that the ON pages will be smaller than the original content. The pages will break differently, too. I think that the hard copy ON pages should emerge looking exactly as the original hard-copy pages would have printed, including page break locations and margins, but they don't. My work-around is to define the 'properties' of my 'Send to OneNote 2007' printer to have a 9 1/2 x 12 1/2-inch [sic] page size before I send the page into OneNote. That seems to help. If I'm solving the wrong problem, and there are ON settings that will preserve the original content's pages, please let me know. -- Thanks Dave "Erik Gulbrandsen" wrote: [Quoted Text] > OneDave wrote: > > I share Patrick's enthusiasm about 2007 but strongly hope you maintain a 2003 > > fallback as he suggests. There area few 2003 "features" that have been > > removed or altered in 2007--to its detriment. Run both versions in parallel > > if you can. > > > > Examples include a loss of the clear mapping of ON "pages" to printed output > > ''pages" and, likewise, of imported input pages to their original size. If > > you import a multi-page document into 2007, you probably can't just > > immediately print the resulting ON page and get back to your original > > document. Importing makes pages smaller than their original and printing them > > out again gives you odd page breaks. > > > > If you use subpages a lot in 2003, you will be disappointed with their loss > > of functionality in 2007. When 2007 added the ability to have multiple ON > > notebooks, it dumbed down subpages. For instance, audio recordings want span > > a page to its subpages. > > From the sound of it, you are printing in tablet mode. Print in > landscape (not portrait) and your size problem will be solved. > > I don't understand what you mean by page breaks worse in 2007. I > actually find it to be much better. > > The only thing that is dumbed down about subpages is the audio. Stop > the audio. Move to a new page, and start it up again. That is my > workaround. > > erik > -- > subscribe to my OneNote blog: here > > <http://www.erikpaul.net/index2.php?option=ds-syndicate&version=1&feed_id=4> > submit requests for OneNote 14: here > <http://www.erikpaul.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=7> > my home page http://www.erikpaul.net >