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Issue with right-to-left language formatting
omidkia <omidkia.399f760[ at ]wordbanter.com> 12/25/2008 9:49:58 PM
I'm having an issue with text formatting in Word 2003 and 2007.

I'm working on a manuscript with someone from Israel. The Word document they sent me is a bit buggy, and I am guessing it's from right-to-left language support. I have opened the document on 5+ computers, using both Word 2003 and Word 2007 and cannot fix the issue.

Basically, regular document text will type fine. However, if I am adding a comment (using the Review pane) the text will sometimes switch to right-to-left. This is triggered by the use of ANY punctuation. At first it was incredibly annoying, but now it is impossible to use.

I am using EndNote to manage my references. As I 'write-and-cite', EndNote automatically generates a bibliography for me. The issue is that the bibliography is ALSO bugged with the 'right-to-left' plague (see attachment).

Interestingly, if I highlight the automically generated bibliography and paste it into an unformatted text box (such as Notepad or a web input box) the bibilography appears as it should. For example:

1. Russel MG. Changes in the incidence of inflammatory bowel disease: what does it mean? Eur J Intern Med 2000;11:191-196.
2. Koutroubakis I, Manousos ON, Meuwissen SG, et al. Environmental risk factors in inflammatory bowel disease. Hepatogastroenterology 1996;43:381-93.

However, if I paste into another Word document or into Wordpad, the numbers (1, 2, etc) appear on the right side of the text.

I am desperate for any help with this issue as the deadline for submission is approaching.

Kind regards,
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Re: Issue with right-to-left language formatting
grammatim <grammatim[ at ]verizon.net> 12/26/2008 4:16:19 AM
Is there any Hebrew at all in the document?

The easiest thing to try is to select the entire document (Ctrl-A) and
go to Set Language (Tools in 03, Review in 07) and make sure it's set
to some variety of English.

If that doesn't work, you could select the entire document EXCEPT the
final paragraph mark, Copy, and Paste into a New document.

I've no idea how EndNote might interact with r-to-l languages.

On Dec 25, 4:49 pm, omidkia <omidkia.399f...[ at ]wordbanter.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> I'm having an issue with text formatting in Word 2003 and 2007.
>
> I'm working on a manuscript with someone from Israel. The Word document
> they sent me is a bit buggy, and I am guessing it's from right-to-left
> language support. I have opened the document on 5+ computers, using
> both Word 2003 and Word 2007 and cannot fix the issue.
>
> Basically, regular document text will type fine. However, if I am
> adding a comment (using the Review pane) the text will sometimes switch
> to right-to-left. This is triggered by the use of ANY punctuation. At
> first it was incredibly annoying, but now it is impossible to use.
>
> I am using EndNote to manage my references. As I 'write-and-cite',
> EndNote automatically generates a bibliography for me. The issue is
> that the bibliography is ALSO bugged with the 'right-to-left' plague
> (see attachment).
>
> Interestingly, if I highlight the automically generated bibliography
> and paste it into an unformatted text box (such as Notepad or a web
> input box) the bibilography appears as it should. For example:
>
> 1.      Russel MG. Changes in the incidence of inflammatory bowel disease:
> what does it mean? Eur J Intern Med 2000;11:191-196.
> 2.      Koutroubakis I, Manousos ON, Meuwissen SG, et al. Environmental risk
> factors in inflammatory bowel disease. Hepatogastroenterology
> 1996;43:381-93.
>
> However, if I paste into another Word document or into Wordpad, the
> numbers (1, 2, etc) appear on the right side of the text.
>
> I am desperate for any help with this issue as the deadline for
> submission is approaching.
>
> Kind regards,
> Omid
>
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Re: Issue with right-to-left language formatting
omidkia <omidkia.39af47f[ at ]wordbanter.com> 12/26/2008 7:07:14 PM
Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I've tried that (and tried again) and it doesn't work. The language is set to US English as default, and always has been. There is no Hebrew that I can see in the document, although somewhere in the backend of the document there must be a buggy code Microsoft is carrying.

'grammatim[_2_ Wrote: > ;386099']Is there any Hebrew at all in the document?
[Quoted Text]
>
> The easiest thing to try is to select the entire document (Ctrl-A) and
> go to Set Language (Tools in 03, Review in 07) and make sure it's set
> to some variety of English.
>
> If that doesn't work, you could select the entire document EXCEPT the
> final paragraph mark, Copy, and Paste into a New document.
>
> I've no idea how EndNote might interact with r-to-l languages.
>
> On Dec 25, 4:49*pm, omidkia omidkia.399f...[ at ]wordbanter.com wrote:-
> I'm having an issue with text formatting in Word 2003 and 2007.
>
> I'm working on a manuscript with someone from Israel. The Word > document
> they sent me is a bit buggy, and I am guessing it's from > right-to-left
> language support. I have opened the document on 5+ computers, using
> both Word 2003 and Word 2007 and cannot fix the issue.
>
> Basically, regular document text will type fine. However, if I am
> adding a comment (using the Review pane) the text will sometimes > switch
> to right-to-left. This is triggered by the use of ANY punctuation. At
> first it was incredibly annoying, but now it is impossible to use.
>
> I am using EndNote to manage my references. As I 'write-and-cite',
> EndNote automatically generates a bibliography for me. The issue is
> that the bibliography is ALSO bugged with the 'right-to-left' plague
> (see attachment).
>
> Interestingly, if I highlight the automically generated bibliography
> and paste it into an unformatted text box (such as Notepad or a web
> input box) the bibilography appears as it should. For example:
>
> 1. * * *Russel MG. Changes in the incidence of inflammatory bowel > disease:
> what does it mean? Eur J Intern Med 2000;11:191-196.
> 2. * * *Koutroubakis I, Manousos ON, Meuwissen SG, et al. > Environmental risk
> factors in inflammatory bowel disease. Hepatogastroenterology
> 1996;43:381-93.
>
> However, if I paste into another Word document or into Wordpad, the
> numbers (1, 2, etc) appear on the right side of the text.
>
> I am desperate for any help with this issue as the deadline for
> submission is approaching.
>
> Kind regards,
> Omid
>
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Re: Issue with right-to-left language formatting
Peter Jamieson <pjj[ at ]KillMAPSpjjnet.demon.co.uk> 12/26/2008 11:21:00 PM
Something I would try just in case is:
a. ensure a RTL script language (e.g. Hebrew) was enabled in Office
Language settings
b. close all Office applications if the language settings tool doesn't
do it for you
c. open Word, locate the LTR/RTL paragraph direction buttons (in Word
2007 they are in the Home tab, Paragraph group - in 2003 I thin they are
in one of the two standard toolbars.
d. select the whole document and click the LTR button

Peter Jamieson

http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk

omidkia wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I've tried that (and tried again)
> and it doesn't work. The language is set to US English as default, and
> always has been. There is no Hebrew that I can see in the document,
> although somewhere in the backend of the document there must be a buggy
> code Microsoft is carrying.
>
> 'grammatim[_2_ Wrote:
>> ;386099']Is there any Hebrew at all in the document?
>>
>> The easiest thing to try is to select the entire document (Ctrl-A) and
>> go to Set Language (Tools in 03, Review in 07) and make sure it's set
>> to some variety of English.
>>
>> If that doesn't work, you could select the entire document EXCEPT the
>> final paragraph mark, Copy, and Paste into a New document.
>>
>> I've no idea how EndNote might interact with r-to-l languages.
>>
>> On Dec 25, 4:49*pm, omidkia omidkia.399f...[ at ]wordbanter.com wrote:-
>> I'm having an issue with text formatting in Word 2003 and 2007.
>>
>> I'm working on a manuscript with someone from Israel. The Word
>> document
>> they sent me is a bit buggy, and I am guessing it's from
>> right-to-left
>> language support. I have opened the document on 5+ computers, using
>> both Word 2003 and Word 2007 and cannot fix the issue.
>>
>> Basically, regular document text will type fine. However, if I am
>> adding a comment (using the Review pane) the text will sometimes
>> switch
>> to right-to-left. This is triggered by the use of ANY punctuation. At
>> first it was incredibly annoying, but now it is impossible to use.
>>
>> I am using EndNote to manage my references. As I 'write-and-cite',
>> EndNote automatically generates a bibliography for me. The issue is
>> that the bibliography is ALSO bugged with the 'right-to-left' plague
>> (see attachment).
>>
>> Interestingly, if I highlight the automically generated bibliography
>> and paste it into an unformatted text box (such as Notepad or a web
>> input box) the bibilography appears as it should. For example:
>>
>> 1. * * *Russel MG. Changes in the incidence of inflammatory bowel
>> disease:
>> what does it mean? Eur J Intern Med 2000;11:191-196.
>> 2. * * *Koutroubakis I, Manousos ON, Meuwissen SG, et al.
>> Environmental risk
>> factors in inflammatory bowel disease. Hepatogastroenterology
>> 1996;43:381-93.
>>
>> However, if I paste into another Word document or into Wordpad, the
>> numbers (1, 2, etc) appear on the right side of the text.
>>
>> I am desperate for any help with this issue as the deadline for
>> submission is approaching.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Omid
>>
>> +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
>> |Filename: ref.jpg * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *|
>> |Download:http://www.wordbanter.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=73|
>> +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
>>
>> --
>> omidkia-
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