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MS Office 2003 Pro takes much more hard drive space than Office XP Pro, with
same installation type(minimal), i.e. with the same components installed.
Why?
There are no many difference in program functions.
Regards
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Well...what is your definition of "much more"? Typically, newer versions of
applications are bigger in size than the previous version (there are
exceptions). Are you saying the difference you are seeing is in the 10s of
Megs or the 100s of Megs? What you are seeing may be normal.
Tim
"SANTANDER" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
news:OxTBpi0rHHA.884[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > MS Office 2003 Pro takes much more hard drive space than Office XP Pro,
> with same installation type(minimal), i.e. with the same components
> installed. Why?
> There are no many difference in program functions.
>
> Regards
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"Tim" <tim_at_overthere.com> wrote in message
news:4917F15F-96E3-4CFA-8E9E-52D23F137326[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Well...what is your definition of "much more"? Typically, newer versions
> of applications are bigger in size than the previous version (there are
> exceptions). Are you saying the difference you are seeing is in the 10s of
> Megs or the 100s of Megs? What you are seeing may be normal.
> Tim
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"SANTANDER" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
news:OxTBpi0rHHA.884[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
MS Office 2003 Pro takes much more hard drive space than Office XP Pro, with
same installation type(minimal), i.e. with the same components installed.
Why?
There are no many difference in program functions.
Regards
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OK, size shown in Add/Remove Program:
Office XP Pro was 208MB
Office 2003 Pro - 289MB(same programs)
Office 2003 Pro with MS Publisher - 365MB
HDD size used is important, there is another programs that also requires
many drive space. Office 2003 components functionality remains almost the
same compare with OfficeXP (except Outlook cosmetic changes).
S.
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Although I haven't performed a space comparison as you have below, it
doesn't strike me as too surprising. I don't think there is much you can do
about it (at least not with Office) to reclaim disk space outside of
removing some of the applications, on-line clipart, help files, languages,
translators, etc. That is where the term "bloatware" came from.
You'll really enjoy Office 2007...my install takes up 725 Megs ;-)
Tim
"SANTANDER" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
news:%23btjHF3rHHA.3884[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] >
> "Tim" <tim_at_overthere.com> wrote in message
> news:4917F15F-96E3-4CFA-8E9E-52D23F137326[ at ]microsoft.com...
>
>> Well...what is your definition of "much more"? Typically, newer versions
>> of applications are bigger in size than the previous version (there are
>> exceptions). Are you saying the difference you are seeing is in the 10s
>> of Megs or the 100s of Megs? What you are seeing may be normal.
>
>> Tim
> ---------
> "SANTANDER" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
> news:OxTBpi0rHHA.884[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> MS Office 2003 Pro takes much more hard drive space than Office XP Pro,
> with same installation type(minimal), i.e. with the same components
> installed. Why?
> There are no many difference in program functions.
>
> Regards
> -------------
>
> OK, size shown in Add/Remove Program:
> Office XP Pro was 208MB
> Office 2003 Pro - 289MB(same programs)
> Office 2003 Pro with MS Publisher - 365MB
>
> HDD size used is important, there is another programs that also requires
> many drive space. Office 2003 components functionality remains almost the
> same compare with OfficeXP (except Outlook cosmetic changes).
>
> S.
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Add/Remove dialogue doesnt neccessarily show the true size.
eg My dialogue shows 2003pro, with all components, at 1.06gb however
TreeSize shows the MS Office and subfolders at 381mb. I realise some office
files may be located elsewere, but I dont believe enough to make up the
difference.
IMO if you are concerned with an extra 150mb or so space then you should be
considering your HD/Storage options, as a win PC with to little free space
can have other problems
"SANTANDER" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
news:%23btjHF3rHHA.3884[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] >
> "Tim" <tim_at_overthere.com> wrote in message
> news:4917F15F-96E3-4CFA-8E9E-52D23F137326[ at ]microsoft.com...
>
> > Well...what is your definition of "much more"? Typically, newer versions
> > of applications are bigger in size than the previous version (there are
> > exceptions). Are you saying the difference you are seeing is in the 10s
of
> > Megs or the 100s of Megs? What you are seeing may be normal.
>
> > Tim
> ---------
> "SANTANDER" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
> news:OxTBpi0rHHA.884[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> MS Office 2003 Pro takes much more hard drive space than Office XP Pro,
with
> same installation type(minimal), i.e. with the same components installed.
> Why?
> There are no many difference in program functions.
>
> Regards
> -------------
>
> OK, size shown in Add/Remove Program:
> Office XP Pro was 208MB
> Office 2003 Pro - 289MB(same programs)
> Office 2003 Pro with MS Publisher - 365MB
>
> HDD size used is important, there is another programs that also requires
> many drive space. Office 2003 components functionality remains almost the
> same compare with OfficeXP (except Outlook cosmetic changes).
>
> S.
>
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"DL" <address[ at ]invalid> wrote in message
news:uRxNBC6rHHA.3492[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Add/Remove dialogue doesnt neccessarily show the true size.
> eg My dialogue shows 2003pro, with all components, at 1.06gb however
> TreeSize shows the MS Office and subfolders at 381mb. I realise some
office
> files may be located elsewere, but I dont believe enough to make up the
> difference.
> IMO if you are concerned with an extra 150mb or so space then you should
be
> considering your HD/Storage options, as a win PC with to little free space
> can have other problems
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> "SANTANDER" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
news:%23btjHF3rHHA.3884[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > "Tim" <tim_at_overthere.com> wrote in message
> > news:4917F15F-96E3-4CFA-8E9E-52D23F137326[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > > Well...what is your definition of "much more"? Typically, newer
versions
> > > of applications are bigger in size than the previous version (there
are
> > > exceptions). Are you saying the difference you are seeing is in the
10s
> of
> > > Megs or the 100s of Megs? What you are seeing may be normal.
> > > Tim
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> > "SANTANDER" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
news:OxTBpi0rHHA.884[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > MS Office 2003 Pro takes much more hard drive space than Office XP Pro,
> with
> > same installation type(minimal), i.e. with the same components
installed.
> > Why?
> > There are no many difference in program functions.
> > Regards
-------------
> > OK, size shown in Add/Remove Program:
> > Office XP Pro was 208MB
> > Office 2003 Pro - 289MB(same programs)
> > Office 2003 Pro with MS Publisher - 365MB
> > HDD size used is important, there is another programs that also requires
> > many drive space. Office 2003 components functionality remains almost
the
> > same compare with OfficeXP (except Outlook cosmetic changes).
> > S.
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can multiple (three times) Office reinstallation (XP-2003-XP) cause hard
drive fragmentation?
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Possibly ; but then if you subsequently run defrag what is your problem?
"SANTANDER" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
news:ehCdEgGsHHA.1212[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > > "DL" <address[ at ]invalid> wrote in message > news:uRxNBC6rHHA.3492[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > Add/Remove dialogue doesnt neccessarily show the true size. > > eg My dialogue shows 2003pro, with all components, at 1.06gb however > > TreeSize shows the MS Office and subfolders at 381mb. I realise some > office > > files may be located elsewere, but I dont believe enough to make up the > > difference. > > > IMO if you are concerned with an extra 150mb or so space then you should > be > > considering your HD/Storage options, as a win PC with to little free
> > can have other problems
> ------------------
>
> > "SANTANDER" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
> news:%23btjHF3rHHA.3884[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> > > "Tim" <tim_at_overthere.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4917F15F-96E3-4CFA-8E9E-52D23F137326[ at ]microsoft.com...
>
> > > > Well...what is your definition of "much more"? Typically, newer
> versions
> > > > of applications are bigger in size than the previous version (there
> are
> > > > exceptions). Are you saying the difference you are seeing is in the
> 10s
> > of
> > > > Megs or the 100s of Megs? What you are seeing may be normal.
>
> > > > Tim
> ---------
> > > "SANTANDER" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
> news:OxTBpi0rHHA.884[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > > MS Office 2003 Pro takes much more hard drive space than Office XP
Pro,
> > with
> > > same installation type(minimal), i.e. with the same components
> installed.
> > > Why?
> > > There are no many difference in program functions.
>
> > > Regards
> -------------
>
> > > OK, size shown in Add/Remove Program:
> > > Office XP Pro was 208MB
> > > Office 2003 Pro - 289MB(same programs)
> > > Office 2003 Pro with MS Publisher - 365MB
>
> > > HDD size used is important, there is another programs that also
requires
> > > many drive space. Office 2003 components functionality remains almost
> the
> > > same compare with OfficeXP (except Outlook cosmetic changes).
>
> > > S.
> -------
>
> can multiple (three times) Office reinstallation (XP-2003-XP) cause hard
> drive fragmentation?
>
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"DL" <address[ at ]invalid> wrote in message
news:e$M9XDUsHHA.1752[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Possibly ; but then if you subsequently run defrag what is your problem?
> "SANTANDER" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
> news:ehCdEgGsHHA.1212[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "DL" <address[ at ]invalid> wrote in message
>> news:uRxNBC6rHHA.3492[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> > Add/Remove dialogue doesnt neccessarily show the true size.
>> > eg My dialogue shows 2003pro, with all components, at 1.06gb however
>> > TreeSize shows the MS Office and subfolders at 381mb. I realise some
>> office
>> > files may be located elsewere, but I dont believe enough to make up the
>> > difference.
>>
>> > IMO if you are concerned with an extra 150mb or so space then you
>> > should
>> be
>> > considering your HD/Storage options, as a win PC with to little free
> space
>> > can have other problems
>> ------------------
>>
>> > "SANTANDER" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
>> news:%23btjHF3rHHA.3884[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>> > > "Tim" <tim_at_overthere.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:4917F15F-96E3-4CFA-8E9E-52D23F137326[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>
>> > > > Well...what is your definition of "much more"? Typically, newer
>> versions
>> > > > of applications are bigger in size than the previous version (there
>> are
>> > > > exceptions). Are you saying the difference you are seeing is in the
>> 10s
>> > of
>> > > > Megs or the 100s of Megs? What you are seeing may be normal.
>>
>> > > > Tim
>> ---------
>> > > "SANTANDER" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
>> news:OxTBpi0rHHA.884[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> > > MS Office 2003 Pro takes much more hard drive space than Office XP
> Pro,
>> > with
>> > > same installation type(minimal), i.e. with the same components
>> installed.
>> > > Why?
>> > > There are no many difference in program functions.
>>
>> > > Regards
>> -------------
>>
>> > > OK, size shown in Add/Remove Program:
>> > > Office XP Pro was 208MB
>> > > Office 2003 Pro - 289MB(same programs)
>> > > Office 2003 Pro with MS Publisher - 365MB
>>
>> > > HDD size used is important, there is another programs that also
> requires
>> > > many drive space. Office 2003 components functionality remains almost
>> the
>> > > same compare with OfficeXP (except Outlook cosmetic changes).
>>
>> > > S.
>> -------
>>
>> can multiple (three times) Office reinstallation (XP-2003-XP) cause hard
>> drive fragmentation?
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Well, i heard its the common misconception that frequent defragmentation is
necessary to maintain adequate system performance. Although it may produce
substantial file system speed improvements in some cases, for the typical
Windows user the overall performance improvement is minor or unnoticeable.
Defragging the disk will not stop a system from malfunctioning or crashing
because the filesystem is designed to work with fragmented files. So there
is limitations of defragmentation. Does windows XP automatically defragment
in a background process like Windows Vista?
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I don't believe WinXP Defrag can be set to operate in the background, I use
a third party defrag tool, which I have set to run overnight with my various
other nightly utilities.
However I doubt you would notice any performance glitches, with Office apps,
even if your disk was heavily fragmented, thats not to say you couldnt
technically measure a performance hit.
"SANTANDER" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
news:ufvWUvZsHHA.1060[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > > "DL" <address[ at ]invalid> wrote in message > news:e$M9XDUsHHA.1752[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > Possibly ; but then if you subsequently run defrag what is your problem? > > > > "SANTANDER" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message > > news:ehCdEgGsHHA.1212[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >> > >> "DL" <address[ at ]invalid> wrote in message > >> news:uRxNBC6rHHA.3492[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >> > Add/Remove dialogue doesnt neccessarily show the true size. > >> > eg My dialogue shows 2003pro, with all components, at 1.06gb however > >> > TreeSize shows the MS Office and subfolders at 381mb. I realise some > >> office > >> > files may be located elsewere, but I dont believe enough to make up
> >> > difference.
> >>
> >> > IMO if you are concerned with an extra 150mb or so space then you
> >> > should
> >> be
> >> > considering your HD/Storage options, as a win PC with to little free
> > space
> >> > can have other problems
> >> ------------------
> >>
> >> > "SANTANDER" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
> >> news:%23btjHF3rHHA.3884[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>
> >> > > "Tim" <tim_at_overthere.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:4917F15F-96E3-4CFA-8E9E-52D23F137326[ at ]microsoft.com...
> >>
> >> > > > Well...what is your definition of "much more"? Typically, newer
> >> versions
> >> > > > of applications are bigger in size than the previous version
(there
> >> are
> >> > > > exceptions). Are you saying the difference you are seeing is in
the
> >> 10s
> >> > of
> >> > > > Megs or the 100s of Megs? What you are seeing may be normal.
> >>
> >> > > > Tim
> >> ---------
> >> > > "SANTANDER" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
> >> news:OxTBpi0rHHA.884[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> > > MS Office 2003 Pro takes much more hard drive space than Office XP
> > Pro,
> >> > with
> >> > > same installation type(minimal), i.e. with the same components
> >> installed.
> >> > > Why?
> >> > > There are no many difference in program functions.
> >>
> >> > > Regards
> >> -------------
> >>
> >> > > OK, size shown in Add/Remove Program:
> >> > > Office XP Pro was 208MB
> >> > > Office 2003 Pro - 289MB(same programs)
> >> > > Office 2003 Pro with MS Publisher - 365MB
> >>
> >> > > HDD size used is important, there is another programs that also
> > requires
> >> > > many drive space. Office 2003 components functionality remains
almost
> >> the
> >> > > same compare with OfficeXP (except Outlook cosmetic changes).
> >>
> >> > > S.
> >> -------
> >>
> >> can multiple (three times) Office reinstallation (XP-2003-XP) cause
hard
> >> drive fragmentation?
> -----------
>
> Well, i heard its the common misconception that frequent defragmentation
is
> necessary to maintain adequate system performance. Although it may produce
> substantial file system speed improvements in some cases, for the typical
> Windows user the overall performance improvement is minor or unnoticeable.
> Defragging the disk will not stop a system from malfunctioning or crashing
> because the filesystem is designed to work with fragmented files. So there
> is limitations of defragmentation. Does windows XP automatically
defragment
> in a background process like Windows Vista?
>
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