Outlook 2007: Get Full Message Source coastaldata 5/17/2007 7:48:03 PM Hello, I've tried the Microsoft Junk Mail Reporting tool, but I still prefer to use SpamCop.net for spam submissions, because it is a more technical service that has a lot of connectivity (to blackhole lists and the like). What I can't figure out is why MS insists that it should be so darn difficult to extract the *full un-modified source* of a message! It gets harder and harder to do with each version. In Outlook 2003, I used an add-in called "OLSpamCop", which is free, but not longer works with 2007. I would like to find or build an addin for Outlook 2007 which VERY SIMPLY opens notepad with the FULL MESSAGE SOURCE for any selected message. This should include headers, encoded attachments, and the message body. Does anybody know of such a plugin already in existence, or have any tips for code samples to help me on my way? This should be so simple and obvious, I just can't imagine why MS does not already provide this capability. Thanks in advance, --CoDE

Re: Outlook 2007: Get Full Message Source "Dmitry Streblechenko" <dmitry[ at ]dimastr.com> 5/17/2007 8:25:52 PM Because Outlook itself (unlike OE) never uses the MIME source and it would be a waste of space to store both the original data and the MAPI properties created by parsing the MIME message. And if a message is sent between two Exchange mailboxes, a mesage would never even be converted to the MIME format. Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP) http://www.dimastr.com/ OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO and MAPI Developer Tool "coastaldata" <coastaldata[ at ]community.nospam> wrote in message news:93DBFCDE-7DE0-4FA1-A605-26DA1EA68AAC[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Hello, I've tried the Microsoft Junk Mail Reporting tool, but I still > prefer > to use SpamCop.net for spam submissions, because it is a more technical > service that has a lot of connectivity (to blackhole lists and the like). > > What I can't figure out is why MS insists that it should be so darn > difficult to extract the *full un-modified source* of a message! It gets > harder and harder to do with each version. > > In Outlook 2003, I used an add-in called "OLSpamCop", which is free, but > not > longer works with 2007. > > I would like to find or build an addin for Outlook 2007 which VERY SIMPLY > opens notepad with the FULL MESSAGE SOURCE for any selected message. This > should include headers, encoded attachments, and the message body. > > Does anybody know of such a plugin already in existence, or have any tips > for code samples to help me on my way? > > This should be so simple and obvious, I just can't imagine why MS does not > already provide this capability. > > Thanks in advance, > > --CoDE

Re: Outlook 2007: Get Full Message Source coastaldata 5/17/2007 8:54:00 PM Interesting... If I understand correctly, you're saying that the original message source is not saved? Some how, some way, there MUST be a way to extract all of this information in one fell swoop! It is simply too unthinkable that MS would back a product, in this day and age of mega-spam, that is not more friendly to spam reduction tools and techniques. Is the plugin that I suggest still creatable? Or is Outlook in the "end game"? "Dmitry Streblechenko" wrote: [Quoted Text] > Because Outlook itself (unlike OE) never uses the MIME source and it would > be a waste of space to store both the original data and the MAPI properties > created by parsing the MIME message. > And if a message is sent between two Exchange mailboxes, a mesage would > never even be converted to the MIME format. > > Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP) > http://www.dimastr.com/ > OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO > and MAPI Developer Tool > > "coastaldata" <coastaldata[ at ]community.nospam> wrote in message > news:93DBFCDE-7DE0-4FA1-A605-26DA1EA68AAC[ at ]microsoft.com... > > Hello, I've tried the Microsoft Junk Mail Reporting tool, but I still > > prefer > > to use SpamCop.net for spam submissions, because it is a more technical > > service that has a lot of connectivity (to blackhole lists and the like). > > > > What I can't figure out is why MS insists that it should be so darn > > difficult to extract the *full un-modified source* of a message! It gets > > harder and harder to do with each version. > > > > In Outlook 2003, I used an add-in called "OLSpamCop", which is free, but > > not > > longer works with 2007. > > > > I would like to find or build an addin for Outlook 2007 which VERY SIMPLY > > opens notepad with the FULL MESSAGE SOURCE for any selected message. This > > should include headers, encoded attachments, and the message body. > > > > Does anybody know of such a plugin already in existence, or have any tips > > for code samples to help me on my way? > > > > This should be so simple and obvious, I just can't imagine why MS does not > > already provide this capability. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > --CoDE > > >

Re: Outlook 2007: Get Full Message Source "Dmitry Streblechenko" <dmitry[ at ]dimastr.com> 5/17/2007 9:48:49 PM Correct, this is exactly what I am saying - the original MIME source is not normally saved because that would bring no benefits to an end user and will at least double the size of the message. And no user will appreciate that. There is a registry entry that will force Outlook to save the complete source, but it is only used by debug purposes and is not set out of the box. Outlook does save the *headers* portion of the MIME message in the PR_TRANSPORT_MESSAGE_HEADERS property. You can of course re-create a MIME message from a MAPI message, but while it will look exactly the same to an end user, on the binary level, it will not be exactly the same as the original message. Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP) http://www.dimastr.com/ OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO and MAPI Developer Tool "coastaldata" <coastaldata[ at ]community.nospam> wrote in message news:CEBD430C-3BA8-4B2D-9A98-915F36C66AE7[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Interesting... If I understand correctly, you're saying that the original > message source is not saved? > > Some how, some way, there MUST be a way to extract all of this information > in one fell swoop! > > It is simply too unthinkable that MS would back a product, in this day and > age of mega-spam, that is not more friendly to spam reduction tools and > techniques. > > Is the plugin that I suggest still creatable? Or is Outlook in the "end > game"? > > > > "Dmitry Streblechenko" wrote: > >> Because Outlook itself (unlike OE) never uses the MIME source and it >> would >> be a waste of space to store both the original data and the MAPI >> properties >> created by parsing the MIME message. >> And if a message is sent between two Exchange mailboxes, a mesage would >> never even be converted to the MIME format. >> >> Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP) >> http://www.dimastr.com/ >> OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO >> and MAPI Developer Tool >> >> "coastaldata" <coastaldata[ at ]community.nospam> wrote in message >> news:93DBFCDE-7DE0-4FA1-A605-26DA1EA68AAC[ at ]microsoft.com... >> > Hello, I've tried the Microsoft Junk Mail Reporting tool, but I still >> > prefer >> > to use SpamCop.net for spam submissions, because it is a more technical >> > service that has a lot of connectivity (to blackhole lists and the >> > like). >> > >> > What I can't figure out is why MS insists that it should be so darn >> > difficult to extract the *full un-modified source* of a message! It >> > gets >> > harder and harder to do with each version. >> > >> > In Outlook 2003, I used an add-in called "OLSpamCop", which is free, >> > but >> > not >> > longer works with 2007. >> > >> > I would like to find or build an addin for Outlook 2007 which VERY >> > SIMPLY >> > opens notepad with the FULL MESSAGE SOURCE for any selected message. >> > This >> > should include headers, encoded attachments, and the message body. >> > >> > Does anybody know of such a plugin already in existence, or have any >> > tips >> > for code samples to help me on my way? >> > >> > This should be so simple and obvious, I just can't imagine why MS does >> > not >> > already provide this capability. >> > >> > Thanks in advance, >> > >> > --CoDE >> >> >>