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odd/even page numbering and footers
Stella Rivera 12/12/2008 5:55:02 PM
I have searched high and low and can't find out how to do this. Help please!!!
I am working on a manual with auto odd/even page numbering. I am making a
change to page 1-4 and must put "CHANGE 3" 12 spaces after 1-4. The problem
is that the "CHANGE 3" shows up after 1-2 as well. The footers have
different section numbers and I have broken section links. How do I manually
insert something on page 1-4 and not have it show up on page 1-2? Much
thanks to anyone who can help me.
--
Stella Rivera
Re: odd/even page numbering and footers
grammatim <grammatim[ at ]verizon.net> 12/12/2008 6:23:23 PM
If they're in the same Section, and they're both even pages, they'll
be the same. If you wanted the _same_ different thing in each footer
(if "CHANGE 2" were on p. 1-2, say), you could use a STYLEREF field.
But would a STYLEREF field show up blank if there didn't happen to be
an example of that style on that page? or would it carry over from the
last one that did exist?

(Also, "12 spaces after" could be a problem, unless you're using a
mono-spaced font like Courier. Maybe a tab would be better.)

On Dec 12, 12:55 pm, Stella Rivera
<StellaRiv...[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> I have searched high and low and can't find out how to do this.  Help please!!!
> I am working on a manual with auto odd/even page numbering.  I am making a
> change to page 1-4 and must put "CHANGE 3" 12 spaces after 1-4.  The problem
> is that the "CHANGE 3" shows up after 1-2 as well.  The footers have
> different section numbers and I have broken section links.  How do I manually
> insert something on page 1-4 and not have it show up on page 1-2?  Much
> thanks to anyone who can help me.
> --
> Stella Rivera

Re: odd/even page numbering and footers
Stella Rivera 12/12/2008 6:50:01 PM
I'm confused. I haven't used field codes. Would I put it in the footer on
page 1-4? If so what would it be? Thanks.
--
Stella Rivera


"grammatim" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> If they're in the same Section, and they're both even pages, they'll
> be the same. If you wanted the _same_ different thing in each footer
> (if "CHANGE 2" were on p. 1-2, say), you could use a STYLEREF field.
> But would a STYLEREF field show up blank if there didn't happen to be
> an example of that style on that page? or would it carry over from the
> last one that did exist?
>
> (Also, "12 spaces after" could be a problem, unless you're using a
> mono-spaced font like Courier. Maybe a tab would be better.)
>
> On Dec 12, 12:55 pm, Stella Rivera
> <StellaRiv...[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > I have searched high and low and can't find out how to do this. Help please!!!
> > I am working on a manual with auto odd/even page numbering. I am making a
> > change to page 1-4 and must put "CHANGE 3" 12 spaces after 1-4. The problem
> > is that the "CHANGE 3" shows up after 1-2 as well. The footers have
> > different section numbers and I have broken section links. How do I manually
> > insert something on page 1-4 and not have it show up on page 1-2? Much
> > thanks to anyone who can help me.
> > --
> > Stella Rivera
>
>
Re: odd/even page numbering and footers
grammatim <grammatim[ at ]verizon.net> 12/12/2008 8:03:02 PM
Whatever you're doing, you can't put it in the footer for p. 1-4
specifically; you can only put it in the footer for all even-numbered
pages in that section. If you need something different at the bottom
of every page, then footers probably isn't the best way to go (you'd
have to have a new section every three pages!)

On Dec 12, 1:50 pm, Stella Rivera
<StellaRiv...[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> I'm confused.  I haven't used field codes.  Would I put it in the footer on
> page 1-4?  If so what would it be?  Thanks.
> --
> Stella Rivera
>
>
>
> "grammatim" wrote:
> > If they're in the same Section, and they're both even pages, they'll
> > be the same. If you wanted the _same_ different thing in each footer
> > (if "CHANGE 2" were on p. 1-2, say), you could use a STYLEREF field.
> > But would a STYLEREF field show up blank if there didn't happen to be
> > an example of that style on that page? or would it carry over from the
> > last one that did exist?
>
> > (Also, "12 spaces after" could be a problem, unless you're using a
> > mono-spaced font like Courier. Maybe a tab would be better.)
>
> > On Dec 12, 12:55 pm, Stella Rivera
> > <StellaRiv...[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > I have searched high and low and can't find out how to do this.  Help please!!!
> > > I am working on a manual with auto odd/even page numbering.  I am making a
> > > change to page 1-4 and must put "CHANGE 3" 12 spaces after 1-4.  The problem
> > > is that the "CHANGE 3" shows up after 1-2 as well.  The footers have
> > > different section numbers and I have broken section links.  How do I manually
> > > insert something on page 1-4 and not have it show up on page 1-2?  Much
> > > thanks to anyone who can help me.
> > > --
> > > Stella Rivera-
Re: odd/even page numbering and footers
Stella Rivera 12/12/2008 8:24:01 PM
It seems strange that Microsoft doesn't have a way to address this
problem--seems there is a solution for everything else. Thank you.
--
Stella Rivera


"grammatim" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Whatever you're doing, you can't put it in the footer for p. 1-4
> specifically; you can only put it in the footer for all even-numbered
> pages in that section. If you need something different at the bottom
> of every page, then footers probably isn't the best way to go (you'd
> have to have a new section every three pages!)
>
> On Dec 12, 1:50 pm, Stella Rivera
> <StellaRiv...[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > I'm confused. I haven't used field codes. Would I put it in the footer on
> > page 1-4? If so what would it be? Thanks.
> > --
> > Stella Rivera
> >
> >
> >
> > "grammatim" wrote:
> > > If they're in the same Section, and they're both even pages, they'll
> > > be the same. If you wanted the _same_ different thing in each footer
> > > (if "CHANGE 2" were on p. 1-2, say), you could use a STYLEREF field.
> > > But would a STYLEREF field show up blank if there didn't happen to be
> > > an example of that style on that page? or would it carry over from the
> > > last one that did exist?
> >
> > > (Also, "12 spaces after" could be a problem, unless you're using a
> > > mono-spaced font like Courier. Maybe a tab would be better.)
> >
> > > On Dec 12, 12:55 pm, Stella Rivera
> > > <StellaRiv...[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > > I have searched high and low and can't find out how to do this. Help please!!!
> > > > I am working on a manual with auto odd/even page numbering. I am making a
> > > > change to page 1-4 and must put "CHANGE 3" 12 spaces after 1-4. The problem
> > > > is that the "CHANGE 3" shows up after 1-2 as well. The footers have
> > > > different section numbers and I have broken section links. How do I manually
> > > > insert something on page 1-4 and not have it show up on page 1-2? Much
> > > > thanks to anyone who can help me.
> > > > --
> > > > Stella Rivera-
>
Re: odd/even page numbering and footers
grammatim <grammatim[ at ]verizon.net> 12/13/2008 12:41:17 AM
But it isn't a problem. Headers & footers are, by definition, the
stuff that's the same on every page.

On Dec 12, 3:24 pm, Stella Rivera
<StellaRiv...[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> It seems strange that Microsoft doesn't have a way to address this
> problem--seems there is a solution for everything else.  Thank you.
> --
> Stella Rivera
>
>
>
> "grammatim" wrote:
> > Whatever you're doing, you can't put it in the footer for p. 1-4
> > specifically; you can only put it in the footer for all even-numbered
> > pages in that section. If you need something different at the bottom
> > of every page, then footers probably isn't the best way to go (you'd
> > have to have a new section every three pages!)
>
> > On Dec 12, 1:50 pm, Stella Rivera
> > <StellaRiv...[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > I'm confused.  I haven't used field codes.  Would I put it in the footer on
> > > page 1-4?  If so what would it be?  Thanks.
> > > --
> > > Stella Rivera
>
> > > "grammatim" wrote:
> > > > If they're in the same Section, and they're both even pages, they'll
> > > > be the same. If you wanted the _same_ different thing in each footer
> > > > (if "CHANGE 2" were on p. 1-2, say), you could use a STYLEREF field..
> > > > But would a STYLEREF field show up blank if there didn't happen to be
> > > > an example of that style on that page? or would it carry over from the
> > > > last one that did exist?
>
> > > > (Also, "12 spaces after" could be a problem, unless you're using a
> > > > mono-spaced font like Courier. Maybe a tab would be better.)
>
> > > > On Dec 12, 12:55 pm, Stella Rivera
> > > > <StellaRiv...[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > > > I have searched high and low and can't find out how to do this.  Help please!!!
> > > > > I am working on a manual with auto odd/even page numbering.  I am making a
> > > > > change to page 1-4 and must put "CHANGE 3" 12 spaces after 1-4.  The problem
> > > > > is that the "CHANGE 3" shows up after 1-2 as well.  The footers have
> > > > > different section numbers and I have broken section links.  How do I manually
> > > > > insert something on page 1-4 and not have it show up on page 1-2?  Much
> > > > > thanks to anyone who can help me.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Stella Rivera--
Re: odd/even page numbering and footers
"Graham Mayor" <gmayor[ at ]REMOVETHISmvps.org> 12/13/2008 6:45:10 AM
Styleref continues until the field information changes.

You could add a conditional field to the footer(s)
Immediate after the page number enter

{IF {Page} > 2 "{IF {Page} < 5 " CHANGE 3" ""}" ""}

or

{ IF{ ={ IF{ Page } > 2 1 0 } * { IF{ Page } < 5 1 0 } } = 1 "
CHANGE3" ""}

Use CTRL+F9 for each bracket pair.
This will allow the text only on pages 3 and 4

However you have an unusual page numbering system - how have you derived
page number 1-4?

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My web site www.gmayor.com
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Stella Rivera wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> It seems strange that Microsoft doesn't have a way to address this
> problem--seems there is a solution for everything else. Thank you.
>
>> Whatever you're doing, you can't put it in the footer for p. 1-4
>> specifically; you can only put it in the footer for all even-numbered
>> pages in that section. If you need something different at the bottom
>> of every page, then footers probably isn't the best way to go (you'd
>> have to have a new section every three pages!)
>>
>> On Dec 12, 1:50 pm, Stella Rivera
>> <StellaRiv...[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>> I'm confused. I haven't used field codes. Would I put it in the
>>> footer on page 1-4? If so what would it be? Thanks.
>>> --
>>> Stella Rivera
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "grammatim" wrote:
>>>> If they're in the same Section, and they're both even pages,
>>>> they'll be the same. If you wanted the _same_ different thing in
>>>> each footer (if "CHANGE 2" were on p. 1-2, say), you could use a
>>>> STYLEREF field. But would a STYLEREF field show up blank if there
>>>> didn't happen to be an example of that style on that page? or
>>>> would it carry over from the last one that did exist?
>>>
>>>> (Also, "12 spaces after" could be a problem, unless you're using a
>>>> mono-spaced font like Courier. Maybe a tab would be better.)
>>>
>>>> On Dec 12, 12:55 pm, Stella Rivera
>>>> <StellaRiv...[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>> I have searched high and low and can't find out how to do this.
>>>>> Help please!!! I am working on a manual with auto odd/even page
>>>>> numbering. I am making a change to page 1-4 and must put "CHANGE
>>>>> 3" 12 spaces after 1-4. The problem is that the "CHANGE 3" shows
>>>>> up after 1-2 as well. The footers have
>>>>> different section numbers and I have broken section links. How
>>>>> do I manually insert something on page 1-4 and not have it show
>>>>> up on page 1-2? Much
>>>>> thanks to anyone who can help me.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Stella Rivera-


Re: odd/even page numbering and footers
"PamC via OfficeKB.com" <u43222[ at ]uwe> 12/14/2008 5:17:42 AM
Making change pages is always a pain when you have to mimic the way things
were done with oldpaper-based manuals.

One solution:
Different sections to accommodate your different footers. Put a section
break next page at the end of the content for page 1-3 and another at the
end of page 1-4. Enter the footer for sections 2 and 3 (assuming there were
no earlier section breaks) and unlink the footers. Format the page numbers
in these sections so they continue from previous. Now adjust the footer for
page 1-4 to your specs. The footers for pgs 1-3 and 1-5 should be the same.

Another:
Text box (or wrapped table). Place the cursor at the beginning of, say, the
last paragraph on page 1-4 and create a text box. Size and drag the box to
where you want it in the footer area. Because it is in the text, not the
footer, it will only show on that one page. If you need to do this often in
the document, make a note of the positions settings (such as horizontal
position 6.6" to the right of Column and vertical position 10.25 below Page)
so you can fix things when Word tries to be helpful.

PamC

Another solution:

Stella Rivera wrote:
[Quoted Text]
>I have searched high and low and can't find out how to do this. Help please!!!
>I am working on a manual with auto odd/even page numbering. I am making a
>change to page 1-4 and must put "CHANGE 3" 12 spaces after 1-4. The problem
>is that the "CHANGE 3" shows up after 1-2 as well. The footers have
>different section numbers and I have broken section links. How do I manually
>insert something on page 1-4 and not have it show up on page 1-2? Much
>thanks to anyone who can help me.

--
Message posted via http://www.officekb.com

Re: odd/even page numbering and footers
Stella Rivera 12/18/2008 4:33:01 PM
You solved my problem--thank you so much!! I was on the right track, sort of.
I did try a text box but did it in the footer so it stayed in all even-paged
footers. It didn't occur to me to do it in the text and drag it. It was an
obvious solution but I was making it way too hard. Thanks again.
--
Stella Rivera


"PamC via OfficeKB.com" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Making change pages is always a pain when you have to mimic the way things
> were done with oldpaper-based manuals.
>
> One solution:
> Different sections to accommodate your different footers. Put a section
> break next page at the end of the content for page 1-3 and another at the
> end of page 1-4. Enter the footer for sections 2 and 3 (assuming there were
> no earlier section breaks) and unlink the footers. Format the page numbers
> in these sections so they continue from previous. Now adjust the footer for
> page 1-4 to your specs. The footers for pgs 1-3 and 1-5 should be the same.
>
> Another:
> Text box (or wrapped table). Place the cursor at the beginning of, say, the
> last paragraph on page 1-4 and create a text box. Size and drag the box to
> where you want it in the footer area. Because it is in the text, not the
> footer, it will only show on that one page. If you need to do this often in
> the document, make a note of the positions settings (such as horizontal
> position 6.6" to the right of Column and vertical position 10.25 below Page)
> so you can fix things when Word tries to be helpful.
>
> PamC
>
> Another solution:
>
> Stella Rivera wrote:
> >I have searched high and low and can't find out how to do this. Help please!!!
> >I am working on a manual with auto odd/even page numbering. I am making a
> >change to page 1-4 and must put "CHANGE 3" 12 spaces after 1-4. The problem
> >is that the "CHANGE 3" shows up after 1-2 as well. The footers have
> >different section numbers and I have broken section links. How do I manually
> >insert something on page 1-4 and not have it show up on page 1-2? Much
> >thanks to anyone who can help me.
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.officekb.com
>
>

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