Sync Regular Contacts w/ Business Contacts in 2007 "UriSchneider[ at ]gmail.com" <UriSchneider[ at ]gmail.com> 6/26/2007 4:28:01 PM Has the following issue been updated and now possible in 2007 Outlook w/ BCM? (see old post below) It is a critical flaw in the functionality! To be able to sync into Pocket PC caller ID contacts and have an ability to sync business and regular contacts within outlook, instead of editting each independently. Uri [Quoted Text] >I would like a contact to be shared between Business Contact Manager and my > regular "Contacts" folder in Outlook. I'm running Office 2003 Pro. There > are > a number of reasons for this: > * Have contact synchronize with my Palm Treo 600 > * Have contact appear when searching by category > * Have contacts in one place sorted by category for mailings > Is this possible? When I drag the contact into business contact manager > from > my contacts folder, it disappears from the first one and now only lives in > the business contact manager. I can't search "Contacts" and "Business > Contacts" together, but have to search each individually. And my business > contacts don't sync with my palm. The only solution I found so far is to > copy > the contact into business contacts, so that there are now 2 copies.

Re: Sync Regular Contacts w/ Business Contacts in 2007 "mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com" <u8453[ at ]uwe> 6/26/2007 5:07:12 PM Uri, This marvelously limited feature remains in Outlook BCM 2007. The MS designed synch solutions to WM devices are very lame with limited features also. It seems as if there is a mediocre bureacratic competition among the original Office Outlook design team, the BCM team, the Office Accounting team, and the WM team. From an end user's perspective, no one seems to be talking to each other or coordinating much. Releases just seem to happen as cobbled together ideas with poorly thought out implementation. This is of course, all just my own observer speculation. I prefer this MS bureacracy theory over the alternative possibility that these bone headed release features are actually planned or presumed by MS to be thought out ahead of time! -THP UriSchneider[ at ]gmail.com wrote: [Quoted Text] >Has the following issue been updated and now possible in 2007 Outlook >w/ BCM? (see old post below) > >It is a critical flaw in the functionality! To be able to sync into >Pocket PC caller ID contacts and have an ability to sync business and >regular contacts within outlook, instead of editting each >independently. > >Uri > >>I would like a contact to be shared between Business Contact Manager and my >> regular "Contacts" folder in Outlook. I'm running Office 2003 Pro. There >> are >> a number of reasons for this: > >> * Have contact synchronize with my Palm Treo 600 >> * Have contact appear when searching by category >> * Have contacts in one place sorted by category for mailings > >> Is this possible? When I drag the contact into business contact manager >> from >[quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> copy >> the contact into business contacts, so that there are now 2 copies. -- Message posted via http://www.officekb.com

Re: Sync Regular Contacts w/ Business Contacts in 2007 Luther <enowning[ at ]gmail.com> 6/29/2007 8:14:59 PM On Jun 26, 10:07 am, "mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com" <u8453[ at ]uwe> wrote: [Quoted Text] > Uri, > > This marvelously limited feature remains in Outlook BCM 2007. The MS > designed synch solutions to WM devices are very lame with limited features > also. It seems as if there is a mediocre bureacratic competition among the > original Office Outlook design team, the BCM team, the Office Accounting team, > and the WM team. From an end user's perspective, no one seems to be talking > to each other or coordinating much. Releases just seem to happen as cobbled > together ideas with poorly thought out implementation. > > This is of course, all just my own observer speculation. I prefer this MS > bureacracy theory over the alternative possibility that these bone headed > release features are actually planned or presumed by MS to be thought out > ahead of time! > > -THP > > > > > > UriSchnei...[ at ]gmail.com wrote: > >Has the following issue been updated and now possible in 2007 Outlook > >w/ BCM? (see old post below) > > >It is a critical flaw in the functionality! To be able to sync into > >Pocket PC caller ID contacts and have an ability to sync business and > >regular contacts within outlook, instead of editting each > >independently. > > >Uri > > >>I would like a contact to be shared between Business Contact Manager and my > >> regular "Contacts" folder in Outlook. I'm running Office 2003 Pro. There > >> are > >> a number of reasons for this: > > >> * Have contact synchronize with my Palm Treo 600 > >> * Have contact appear when searching by category > >> * Have contacts in one place sorted by category for mailings > > >> Is this possible? When I drag the contact into business contact manager > >> from > >[quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >> copy > >> the contact into business contacts, so that there are now 2 copies. > > -- > Message posted viahttp://www.officekb.com- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Having dealt with similar issues in the past, I would add the ActiveSync team to the list. It's apparent to me with Outlook/BCM 2007 that those two groups must be talking to each other. To smooth over many of the UI annoyances with BCM and Outlook 2003, the Outlook group must have responded to BCM requests; e.g., BCM can now customize Outlook right click menus. It's also apparent that the BCM and accounting groups must have also been talking to each other in order to be as integrated as they are in the latest versions. It seems to me that the core problem with syncing BCM to devices is that when ActiveSync was written to work with Outlook, the code was specifically tied to Outlook's default Contact folder, instead of doing the right thing and asking the user which of the MAPI stores on the PC they want to sync their device's contact list to.

Re: Sync Regular Contacts w/ Business Contacts in 2007 "mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com" <u8453[ at ]uwe> 6/29/2007 10:31:37 PM Good thoughts Luther. I would love to have the choice in a set-up wizard dialogue to choose which of the MAPI stores I would like to use. I have a question. What is it about the design for synching multi contact folders that is resisted by WM Synch Center (formerly called ActiveSync)? If 3rd party developers such as Chapura or Intellisync can add this type of conduit in, why not MS? -THP Luther wrote: [Quoted Text] >On Jun 26, 10:07 am, "mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com" <u8453[ at ]uwe> >wrote: >> Uri, >> >[quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >> >> - Show quoted text - > >Having dealt with similar issues in the past, I would add the >ActiveSync team to the list. > >It's apparent to me with Outlook/BCM 2007 that those two groups must >be talking to each other. To smooth over many of the UI annoyances >with BCM and Outlook 2003, the Outlook group must have responded to >BCM requests; e.g., BCM can now customize Outlook right click menus. >It's also apparent that the BCM and accounting groups must have also >been talking to each other in order to be as integrated as they are in >the latest versions. > >It seems to me that the core problem with syncing BCM to devices is >that when ActiveSync was written to work with Outlook, the code was >specifically tied to Outlook's default Contact folder, instead of >doing the right thing and asking the user which of the MAPI stores on >the PC they want to sync their device's contact list to. -- Message posted via OfficeKB.com http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/outlook-bcm/200706/1