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Microsoft Office Doc Image Writer is still printing ghosts and it's totally freaking me out!!!!!!!
JethroUK© 11/16/2008 2:09:59 PM
Every time i use 'Microsoft Office (2003) Doc Image Writer' (no printer at
home) no printed document appears - ever!!!

But when I try to reprint the document it's 'dis-embodied' ghost appears
only in the save as dialogue box (even after a reboot)

I think this is yet another Vista bug (Vista can't see/find existing
documents)

I've reported this before without cure

Anyone know the name of it's predecessor (we use at work) which works
perfectly - creates it's own document type albeit can't remember the
extension

Re: Microsoft Office Doc Image Writer is still printing ghosts and it's totally freaking me out!!!!!!!
"Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell[ at ]msn.com> 11/16/2008 2:32:05 PM
I cannot repeat the problem. But if you are using this because you don't
have a printer at home, it isn't the best solution. Just install your work's
printer driver. It doesn't matter that you don't have a printer or it isn't
connected, it is the printer driver that Word needs to see and using the
'normal' printer driver is the best solution as it ensure compatibility.

--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

"JethroUK©" <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote in message
news:uehMJU$RJHA.5092[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Every time i use 'Microsoft Office (2003) Doc Image Writer' (no printer at
> home) no printed document appears - ever!!!
>
> But when I try to reprint the document it's 'dis-embodied' ghost appears
> only in the save as dialogue box (even after a reboot)
>
> I think this is yet another Vista bug (Vista can't see/find existing
> documents)
>
> I've reported this before without cure
>
> Anyone know the name of it's predecessor (we use at work) which works
> perfectly - creates it's own document type albeit can't remember the
> extension

Re: Microsoft Office Doc Image Writer is still printing ghosts and it's totally freaking me out!!!!!!!
"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse[ at ]NOSPAMsyndrome.me.uk> 11/16/2008 2:57:48 PM
JethroUK© <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote:
[Quoted Text]
>
> Every time i use 'Microsoft Office (2003) Doc Image Writer' (no printer
> at home) no printed document appears - ever!!!
>
> But when I try to reprint the document it's 'dis-embodied' ghost appears
> only in the save as dialogue box (even after a reboot)
>
> I think this is yet another Vista bug (Vista can't see/find existing
> documents)
>
> I've reported this before without cure
>
> Anyone know the name of it's predecessor (we use at work) which works
> perfectly - creates it's own document type albeit can't remember the
> extension

Just use the .XPS printer instead, which is rather like PDF, althouhg not so
universal. Alternatively, install one of the many free PDF printer drivers
and use that. TinyPDF is good, but you have to make sure you get the right
link, for the updated driver that does not make you download any further
trial software, IIRC.

http://www.tinypdf.com/

ss.


Re: Microsoft Office Doc Image Writer is still printing ghosts and it's totally freaking me out!!!!!!!
"ole" <chakthit[ at ]windowslive.com> 11/16/2008 3:14:01 PM

"JethroUK©" <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote in message
news:uehMJU$RJHA.5092[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Every time i use 'Microsoft Office (2003) Doc Image Writer' (no printer
at
> home) no printed document appears - ever!!!
>
> But when I try to reprint the document it's 'dis-embodied' ghost appears
> only in the save as dialogue box (even after a reboot)
>
> I think this is yet another Vista bug (Vista can't see/find existing
> documents)
>
> I've reported this before without cure
>
> Anyone know the name of it's predecessor (we use at work) which works
> perfectly - creates it's own document type albeit can't remember the
> extension
>


Re: Microsoft Office Doc Image Writer is still printing ghosts and it's totally freaking me out!!!!!!!
"ole" <chakthit[ at ]windowslive.com> 11/16/2008 3:15:48 PM

"JethroUK©" <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote in message
news:uehMJU$RJHA.5092[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Every time i use 'Microsoft Office (2003) Doc Image Writer' (no printer
at
> home) no printed document appears - ever!!!
>
> But when I try to reprint the document it's 'dis-embodied' ghost appears
> only in the save as dialogue box (even after a reboot)
>
> I think this is yet another Vista bug (Vista can't see/find existing
> documents)
>
> I've reported this before without cure
>
> Anyone know the name of it's predecessor (we use at work) which works
> perfectly - creates it's own document type albeit can't remember the
> extension
>


Re: Microsoft Office Doc Image Writer is still printing ghosts and it's totally freaking me out!!!!!!!
"ole" <chakthit[ at ]windowslive.com> 11/16/2008 3:15:57 PM

"JethroUK©" <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote in message
news:uehMJU$RJHA.5092[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Every time i use 'Microsoft Office (2003) Doc Image Writer' (no printer
at
> home) no printed document appears - ever!!!
>
> But when I try to reprint the document it's 'dis-embodied' ghost appears
> only in the save as dialogue box (even after a reboot)
>
> I think this is yet another Vista bug (Vista can't see/find existing
> documents)
>
> I've reported this before without cure
>
> Anyone know the name of it's predecessor (we use at work) which works
> perfectly - creates it's own document type albeit can't remember the
> extension
>


Re: Microsoft Office Doc Image Writer is still printing ghosts and it's totally freaking me out!!!!!!!
"ole" <chakthit[ at ]windowslive.com> 11/16/2008 3:16:21 PM

"JethroUK©" <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote in message
news:uehMJU$RJHA.5092[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Every time i use 'Microsoft Office (2003) Doc Image Writer' (no printer
at
> home) no printed document appears - ever!!!
>
> But when I try to reprint the document it's 'dis-embodied' ghost appears
> only in the save as dialogue box (even after a reboot)
>
> I think this is yet another Vista bug (Vista can't see/find existing
> documents)
>
> I've reported this before without cure
>
> Anyone know the name of it's predecessor (we use at work) which works
> perfectly - creates it's own document type albeit can't remember the
> extension
>


Re: Microsoft Office Doc Image Writer is still printing ghosts and it's totally freaking me out!!!!!!!
"ole" <chakthit[ at ]windowslive.com> 11/16/2008 3:16:57 PM

"JethroUK? <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote in message
news:uehMJU$RJHA.5092[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Every time i use 'Microsoft Office (2003) Doc Image Writer' (no
printer
at
> home) no printed document appears - ever!!!
>
> But when I try to reprint the document it's 'dis-embodied' ghost
appears
> only in the save as dialogue box (even after a reboot)
>
> I think this is yet another Vista bug (Vista can't see/find existing
> documents)
>
> I've reported this before without cure
>
> Anyone know the name of it's predecessor (we use at work) which
works
> perfectly - creates it's own document type albeit can't remember the
> extension
>






Re: Microsoft Office Doc Image Writer is still printing ghosts and it's totally freaking me out!!!!!!!
"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse[ at ]NOSPAMsyndrome.me.uk> 11/16/2008 3:30:33 PM
ole <chakthit[ at ]windowslive.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text]
>
>
> "JethroUK? <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote in message
> news:uehMJU$RJHA.5092[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > Every time i use 'Microsoft Office (2003) Doc Image Writer' (no
> printer
> at
> > home) no printed document appears - ever!!!
>
> > But when I try to reprint the document it's 'dis-embodied' ghost
> appears
> > only in the save as dialogue box (even after a reboot)
>
> > I think this is yet another Vista bug (Vista can't see/find
> existing documents)
>
> > I've reported this before without cure
>
> > Anyone know the name of it's predecessor (we use at work) which
> works
> > perfectly - creates it's own document type albeit can't remember
> the extension



WTF is your problem?

ss.


Re: Microsoft Office Doc Image Writer is still printing ghosts and it's totally freaking me out!!!!!!!
JethroUK© 11/16/2008 4:32:27 PM
If i dont have a printer it's not going to print surely?



"Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
news:etNBag$RJHA.5348[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> I cannot repeat the problem. But if you are using this because you don't
> have a printer at home, it isn't the best solution. Just install your
> work's printer driver. It doesn't matter that you don't have a printer or
> it isn't connected, it is the printer driver that Word needs to see and
> using the 'normal' printer driver is the best solution as it ensure
> compatibility.
>
> --
> Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP
>
> "JethroUK©" <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote in message
> news:uehMJU$RJHA.5092[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Every time i use 'Microsoft Office (2003) Doc Image Writer' (no printer
>> at home) no printed document appears - ever!!!
>>
>> But when I try to reprint the document it's 'dis-embodied' ghost appears
>> only in the save as dialogue box (even after a reboot)
>>
>> I think this is yet another Vista bug (Vista can't see/find existing
>> documents)
>>
>> I've reported this before without cure
>>
>> Anyone know the name of it's predecessor (we use at work) which works
>> perfectly - creates it's own document type albeit can't remember the
>> extension
>
Re: Microsoft Office Doc Image Writer is still printing ghosts and it's totally freaking me out!!!!!!!
JethroUK© 11/16/2008 4:33:30 PM


"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse[ at ]NOSPAMsyndrome.me.uk> wrote in message
news:#3Kjyu$RJHA.4772[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> JethroUK© <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote:
>>
>> Every time i use 'Microsoft Office (2003) Doc Image Writer' (no printer
>> at home) no printed document appears - ever!!!
>>
>> But when I try to reprint the document it's 'dis-embodied' ghost appears
>> only in the save as dialogue box (even after a reboot)
>>
>> I think this is yet another Vista bug (Vista can't see/find existing
>> documents)
>>
>> I've reported this before without cure
>>
>> Anyone know the name of it's predecessor (we use at work) which works
>> perfectly - creates it's own document type albeit can't remember the
>> extension
>
> Just use the .XPS printer instead, which is rather like PDF,

think thats the one we use at work 0- how can install it?




althouhg not so
> universal. Alternatively, install one of the many free PDF printer
> drivers and use that. TinyPDF is good, but you have to make sure you get
> the right link, for the updated driver that does not make you download any
> further trial software, IIRC.
>
> http://www.tinypdf.com/
>
> ss.
>
Re: Microsoft Office Doc Image Writer is still printing ghosts and it's totally freaking me out!!!!!!!
JethroUK© 11/16/2008 4:37:15 PM
Can we conclude this is a Vista (cant see my own reflection) issue?


P.S. after reboot Vista still can't see them but they are there??????????
Re: Microsoft Office Doc Image Writer is still printing ghosts and it's totally freaking me out!!!!!!!
"Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell[ at ]msn.com> 11/16/2008 4:58:16 PM
I am lost to see why you are trying to print if you don't have a printer.

Terry

"JethroUK©" <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote in message
news:esOIwjASJHA.4240[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> If i dont have a printer it's not going to print surely?
>
>
>
> "Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
> news:etNBag$RJHA.5348[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> I cannot repeat the problem. But if you are using this because you don't
>> have a printer at home, it isn't the best solution. Just install your
>> work's printer driver. It doesn't matter that you don't have a printer or
>> it isn't connected, it is the printer driver that Word needs to see and
>> using the 'normal' printer driver is the best solution as it ensure
>> compatibility.
>>
>> --
>> Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP
>>
>> "JethroUK©" <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote in message
>> news:uehMJU$RJHA.5092[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Every time i use 'Microsoft Office (2003) Doc Image Writer' (no printer
>>> at home) no printed document appears - ever!!!
>>>
>>> But when I try to reprint the document it's 'dis-embodied' ghost appears
>>> only in the save as dialogue box (even after a reboot)
>>>
>>> I think this is yet another Vista bug (Vista can't see/find existing
>>> documents)
>>>
>>> I've reported this before without cure
>>>
>>> Anyone know the name of it's predecessor (we use at work) which works
>>> perfectly - creates it's own document type albeit can't remember the
>>> extension
>>

Re: Microsoft Office Doc Image Writer is still printing ghosts and it's totally freaking me out!!!!!!!
JethroUK© 11/16/2008 6:25:18 PM
maybe you dont use them much - the whole point of pdf/image printers is it
prints to a file (instead of the printer you dont have) - you can then take
the file to where there is a printer

"Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
news:OamMGyASJHA.5408[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> I am lost to see why you are trying to print if you don't have a printer.
>
> Terry
>
> "JethroUK©" <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote in message
> news:esOIwjASJHA.4240[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> If i dont have a printer it's not going to print surely?
>>
>>
>>
>> "Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:etNBag$RJHA.5348[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> I cannot repeat the problem. But if you are using this because you don't
>>> have a printer at home, it isn't the best solution. Just install your
>>> work's printer driver. It doesn't matter that you don't have a printer
>>> or it isn't connected, it is the printer driver that Word needs to see
>>> and using the 'normal' printer driver is the best solution as it ensure
>>> compatibility.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP
>>>
>>> "JethroUK©" <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote in message
>>> news:uehMJU$RJHA.5092[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Every time i use 'Microsoft Office (2003) Doc Image Writer' (no printer
>>>> at home) no printed document appears - ever!!!
>>>>
>>>> But when I try to reprint the document it's 'dis-embodied' ghost
>>>> appears only in the save as dialogue box (even after a reboot)
>>>>
>>>> I think this is yet another Vista bug (Vista can't see/find existing
>>>> documents)
>>>>
>>>> I've reported this before without cure
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know the name of it's predecessor (we use at work) which works
>>>> perfectly - creates it's own document type albeit can't remember the
>>>> extension
>>>
>
Re: Microsoft Office Doc Image Writer is still printing ghosts and it's totally freaking me out!!!!!!!
"Dirk Goldgar" <dg[ at ]NOdataSPAMgnostics.com.invalid> 11/16/2008 6:30:15 PM
"JethroUK©" <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote in message
news:esOIwjASJHA.4240[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> If i dont have a printer it's not going to print surely?


Use the print options to direct the output to a file, then bring that work
and print it there by copying the file (as a binary file) to the printer
port. More info on that here:

http://filext.com/faq/print_from_prn_file.php


But it's probably simpler to print it to PDF or XPS format and transport
that, instead.

--
Dirk Goldgar, MS Access MVP
www.datagnostics.com

(please reply to the newsgroup)

Re: Microsoft Office Doc Image Writer is still printing ghosts and it's totally freaking me out!!!!!!!
"Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell[ at ]msn.com> 11/16/2008 10:20:41 PM
That's true, but you can also take the *.docs too. The problem with taking
an image is that Word uses the printer parameters it finds by interrogating
the printer driver to determine the page layout appropriate for a particular
printer. Every printer is different, so there is a high probability that if
you create a print file using a different printer (including the image
writer), the actual layout of the printed document may be different than you
intend. So the best solution is to use the printer driver for the printer
you are going to be using. You can still print to file, but the document
will have the expected layout.

Terry

"JethroUK©" <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote in message
news:Oa23ziBSJHA.1484[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> maybe you dont use them much - the whole point of pdf/image printers is it
> prints to a file (instead of the printer you dont have) - you can then
> take the file to where there is a printer
>

Re: Microsoft Office Doc Image Writer is still printing ghosts and it's totally freaking me out!!!!!!!
"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse[ at ]NOSPAMsyndrome.me.uk> 11/16/2008 10:49:46 PM
Terry Farrell <terryfarrell[ at ]msn.com> wrote:

<top-posting macro corrected>

[Quoted Text]
>> maybe you dont use them much - the whole point of pdf/image printers
>> is it prints to a file (instead of the printer you dont have) - you
>> can then take the file to where there is a printer
>
> That's true, but you can also take the *.docs too. The problem with
> taking an image is that Word uses the printer parameters it finds by
> interrogating the printer driver to determine the page layout
> appropriate for a particular printer. Every printer is different, so
> there is a high probability that if you create a print file using a
> different printer (including the image writer), the actual layout of
> the printed document may be different than you intend. So the best
> solution is to use the printer driver for the printer you are going to
> be using. You can still print to file, but the document will have the
> expected layout.


Erm, welcome to the 21st century, Terry.

ss.


Re: Microsoft Office Doc Image Writer is still printing ghosts and it's totally freaking me out!!!!!!!
"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse[ at ]NOSPAMsyndrome.me.uk> 11/16/2008 10:52:31 PM
JethroUK© <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote:
[Quoted Text]
>
>>>
>>> Anyone know the name of it's predecessor (we use at work) which works
>>> perfectly - creates it's own document type albeit can't remember the
>>> extension
>>
>> Just use the .XPS printer instead, which is rather like PDF,
>
> think thats the one we use at work 0- how can install it?
>

What is in your printer folder?

IIRC, Vista has the XPS printer installed by default, but fully updated XP
computers should have it too.

ss.


Re: Microsoft Office Doc Image Writer is still printing ghosts and it's totally freaking me out!!!!!!!
"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse[ at ]NOSPAMsyndrome.me.uk> 11/16/2008 10:53:41 PM
JethroUK© <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote:
[Quoted Text]
>
> Can we conclude this is a Vista (cant see my own reflection) issue?
>
>
> P.S. after reboot Vista still can't see them but they are there??????????



?

ss.


Re: Microsoft Office Doc Image Writer is still printing ghosts and it's totally freaking me out!!!!!!!
JethroUK© 11/16/2008 11:04:25 PM
i remember trying this a few years back (10 maybe) and whilst it's fairly
obvious how to print to file - it's positively obtuse how to print "the
file" to a printer

hence pdf printers & image writer




"Dirk Goldgar" <dg[ at ]NOdataSPAMgnostics.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:O582hlBSJHA.1164[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> "JethroUK©" <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote in message
> news:esOIwjASJHA.4240[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> If i dont have a printer it's not going to print surely?
>
>
> Use the print options to direct the output to a file, then bring that work
> and print it there by copying the file (as a binary file) to the printer
> port. More info on that here:
>
> http://filext.com/faq/print_from_prn_file.php
>
>
> But it's probably simpler to print it to PDF or XPS format and transport
> that, instead.
>
> --
> Dirk Goldgar, MS Access MVP
> www.datagnostics.com
>
> (please reply to the newsgroup)
>
Re: Microsoft Office Doc Image Writer is still printing ghosts and it's totally freaking me out!!!!!!!
"Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell[ at ]msn.com> 11/16/2008 11:46:24 PM
Just drag and drop the *.doc onto the printer icon.

Terry

"JethroUK©" <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote in message
news:uvr0x%23DSJHA.5408[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
>i remember trying this a few years back (10 maybe) and whilst it's fairly
>obvious how to print to file - it's positively obtuse how to print "the
>file" to a printer
>
> hence pdf printers & image writer
>
>
>
>
> "Dirk Goldgar" <dg[ at ]NOdataSPAMgnostics.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:O582hlBSJHA.1164[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> "JethroUK©" <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote in message
>> news:esOIwjASJHA.4240[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> If i dont have a printer it's not going to print surely?
>>
>>
>> Use the print options to direct the output to a file, then bring that
>> work and print it there by copying the file (as a binary file) to the
>> printer port. More info on that here:
>>
>> http://filext.com/faq/print_from_prn_file.php
>>
>>
>> But it's probably simpler to print it to PDF or XPS format and transport
>> that, instead.
>>
>> --
>> Dirk Goldgar, MS Access MVP
>> www.datagnostics.com
>>
>> (please reply to the newsgroup)
>>

Re: Microsoft Office Doc Image Writer is still printing ghosts and it's totally freaking me out!!!!!!!
"Ken Blake" <kblake[ at ]this.is.an.invalid.domain> 11/17/2008 11:22:39 AM
"JethroUK©" <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote in message
news:Oa23ziBSJHA.1484[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

[Quoted Text]
> maybe you dont use them much - the whole point of pdf/image printers is it
> prints to a file (instead of the printer you dont have) - you can then
> take the file to where there is a printer


I don't at all agree that the whole point of pdf is that you can then take
the file to where there is a printer. The whole point is that you can create
a pdf file within *your* application, then distribute the file to others,
who can then view or print the same thing you see, even if they don't have
the same program, or a compatible one.



> "Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
> news:OamMGyASJHA.5408[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> I am lost to see why you are trying to print if you don't have a printer.
>>
>> Terry
>>
>> "JethroUK©" <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote in message
>> news:esOIwjASJHA.4240[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> If i dont have a printer it's not going to print surely?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:etNBag$RJHA.5348[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> I cannot repeat the problem. But if you are using this because you
>>>> don't have a printer at home, it isn't the best solution. Just install
>>>> your work's printer driver. It doesn't matter that you don't have a
>>>> printer or it isn't connected, it is the printer driver that Word needs
>>>> to see and using the 'normal' printer driver is the best solution as it
>>>> ensure compatibility.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP
>>>>
>>>> "JethroUK©" <reply[ at ]the.board> wrote in message
>>>> news:uehMJU$RJHA.5092[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Every time i use 'Microsoft Office (2003) Doc Image Writer' (no
>>>>> printer at home) no printed document appears - ever!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> But when I try to reprint the document it's 'dis-embodied' ghost
>>>>> appears only in the save as dialogue box (even after a reboot)
>>>>>
>>>>> I think this is yet another Vista bug (Vista can't see/find existing
>>>>> documents)
>>>>>
>>>>> I've reported this before without cure
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone know the name of it's predecessor (we use at work) which works
>>>>> perfectly - creates it's own document type albeit can't remember the
>>>>> extension
>>>>
>>


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