How can we fasten drawed objects to the words they are directed to Valmaseda 2/7/2007 11:25:02 PM Being able to do some shemes, or draw arrows between words or any other kind of drawing done on top of some normal writing is handy. But whenever we move the text the drawing gets where it was and all turns Is there any way that we could fasten/chain the arrows and other objects with the text? And the drawn objects among themselves? Perhaps grouping objects like in Visio would be helpful. Even for drawings and text.

Re: How can we fasten drawed objects to the words they are directed to Grant Robertson <BOGUS[ at ]BOGUS.com> 2/8/2007 1:47:02 AM In article <828C2777-55DC-4AF4-BB73-3BE66D1039C1[ at ]microsoft.com>, Valmaseda[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com says... [Quoted Text] > Is there any way that we could fasten/chain the arrows and other objects > with the text? > Asked all the darn time. Unfortunately, no. It is the biggest complaint that people have about OneNote. The best way to keep these things together is to make sure they are all in a separate text box. __________________ |Text in box A | |_________________| ____________ |Text B <--|--- Picture with an arrow pointing to Text B. |___________| If you add lines to box A then OneNote will expand box A. When it does this, then everything that is entirely below the bottom of box A will be shoved down on the page the same amount. This means Text B in the second box will be shoved down the same amount as the arrow and picture. This makes it seem as if the two are linked but they are not. The best way to ensure you are starting a new box is to click about three lines below the bottom line in the previous box. Any individual piece of ink that is NOT entirely below the bottom of the box where you are adding lines will NOT be moved down. This could separate various parts of your picture.

Re: How can we fasten drawed objects to the words they are directed to "EMRhelp.org" <EMRhelp.org[ at ]gmail.com> 2/8/2007 1:55:31 AM On Feb 7, 6:25 pm, Valmaseda <Valmas...[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: [Quoted Text] > Perhaps grouping objects like in Visio would be helpful. Even for drawings > and text. Uhhhh ... nevermind Visio. You can group objects in the lowly Windows Journal. It's an obvious need, could a OneNote DEV fill us in on why it wasn't undertaken ? Is it a Synching thing ? It might be hard to synch a "group" function ?

Re: How can we fasten drawed objects to the words they are directe Alex <MS> 2/8/2007 10:45:02 PM It is true, this is a very common request and something we've spent a large amount of time thinking about. The entire history is too long to write down here, but in short, this is a really hard problem that could be solved in a variety of ways, some requiring more user control than others. We made some improvements in 2007 to the way objects on the page move when a object above them grows into them, but we aren't finished clearly. The ability to group and link things together is an ongoing topic of discussion, and will be addressed in future releases. We understand this is a critical peice of the experience that needs to get better. Thanks for all of your feedback, your detailed descriptions of your scenarios will help us to build the best overall experience. Thanks for your patience. -Alex <MS> "EMRhelp.org" wrote: [Quoted Text] > On Feb 7, 6:25 pm, Valmaseda <Valmas...[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> > wrote: > > Perhaps grouping objects like in Visio would be helpful. Even for drawings > > and text. > > Uhhhh ... nevermind Visio. You can group objects in the lowly Windows > Journal. > > It's an obvious need, could a OneNote DEV fill us in on why it wasn't > undertaken ? Is it a Synching thing ? It might be hard to synch a > "group" function ? > > >

Re: How can we fasten drawed objects to the words they are directe "EMRhelp.org" <EMRhelp.org[ at ]gmail.com> 2/25/2007 10:26:54 PM On Feb 8, 5:45 pm, Alex <MS> <Ale...[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: [Quoted Text] > It is true, this is a very common request and something we've spent a large > amount of time thinking about. The entire history is too long to write down > here, but in short, this is a really hard problem that could be solved in a > variety of ways, some requiring more user control than others. We made some > improvements in 2007 to the way objects on the page move when a object above > them grows into them, but we aren't finished clearly. The ability to group > and link things together is an ongoing topic of discussion, and will be > addressed in future releases. We understand this is a critical peice of the > experience that needs to get better. Thanks for all of your feedback, your > detailed descriptions of your scenarios will help us to build the best > overall experience. Thanks for your patience. > > -Alex <MS> > > "EMRhelp.org" wrote: > > On Feb 7, 6:25 pm, Valmaseda <Valmas...[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> > > wrote: > > > Perhapsgroupingobjects like in Visio would be helpful. Even for drawings > > > and text. > > > Uhhhh ... nevermind Visio. You can group objects in the lowly Windows > > Journal. > > > It's an obvious need, could a OneNote DEV fill us in on why it wasn't > > undertaken ? Is it a Synching thing ? It might be hard to synch a > > "group" function ? Microsoft Word 2003 is able to "BIND" ink annotations (on my Tablet PC) to the paragraph they are sketched over top of. OneNote really needs this feature badly. What we want: Lasso select of any items and right click .. Group. :) Is part of the problem that it would be hard to "synch" these groupings ?

Re: How can we fasten drawed objects to the words they are directed to "EMRhelp.org" <EMRhelp.org[ at ]gmail.com> 2/26/2007 2:43:59 AM On Feb 7, 8:47 pm, Grant Robertson <B...[ at ]BOGUS.com> wrote: [Quoted Text] > The best way to keep these things together is to make sure they are all > in a separate text box. Great tip. All idiosyncrasies aside, the lasso works very well, and if you did want to move things, you can lasso them and move them that way. And .. if things did get "messed up" the lasso tool will allow to precisely move things. Very nice :)