Major Missing feature in OneNote 2007: Grouping items (text, graphics, ink) "EMRhelp.org" <EMRhelp.org[ at ]gmail.com> 3/14/2007 2:43:08 PM Group images (scans) and ink in Onenote Mick McDonald Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 07:11:07 -0800 I receive many hand-written notes with sketched plans on them. I have started using Onenote to keep track of these by scanning them and then notating/highlighting the image. The problem comes when the image is resized for better viewing or moved. Then my notes and highlights are in the wrong place. I would like to be able to add the notes/ highlights to the image _and_ be able to edit those additions later, but keep it all as one item for moving/resizing purposes. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=- Newsgroups: microsoft.public.onenote Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:13:04 -0800 This capability (to group objects on the page) doesn't exist in OneNote. The product team is aware of this request. Your scenario for using it is certainly a reasonable and compelling one. Thanks for posting. Lori Birtley {MS} -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=- OneNote *NEEDS* a robust way to make sure INK is bound to the items (graphics or Text) it was intended to be a part of. For business use, this is a must. Business needs reliable information and OneNote looks a little like a toy when you see the INK shifted away from it's intended target. In this respect, OneNote 2007 is not business ready. The only Microsoft application that allows INK and Graphics and Text to be bound together is the lowly Windows Journal. ( I have not tested Word 2007 on Vista) One supposed feature of OneNote 2007 is to print a document and INK on top of it. Well, when the INK isn't bound to the printed document this feature looks pretty unreliable. Is grouping that hard ? OneNote 2007 needs grouping to in a service pack.

Re: Major Missing feature in OneNote 2007: Grouping items (text, graphics, ink) xTenn <xTennREMOVETHISPART[ at ]tds.net> 3/14/2007 4:10:14 PM [Quoted Text] > > One supposed feature of OneNote 2007 is to print a document and INK on > top of it. Well, when the INK isn't bound to the printed document > this feature looks pretty unreliable. > Why can't one make the scan a background image and ink on top of that - this *should* keep the background picture stationary and the ink (as loing as you are away from the edges) should behave. At least this has worked for me - so far...

Re: Major Missing feature in OneNote 2007: Grouping items (text, graphics, ink) "EMRhelp.org" <EMRhelp.org[ at ]gmail.com> 3/14/2007 5:27:56 PM On Mar 14, 11:10 am, xTenn <xTennREMOVETHISP...[ at ]tds.net> wrote: [Quoted Text] > > One supposed feature of OneNote 2007 is to print a document and INK on > > top of it. Well, when the INK isn't bound to the printed document > > this feature looks pretty unreliable. > > Why can't one make the scan a background image and ink on top of that - > this *should* keep the background picture stationary and the ink (as > loing as you are away from the edges) should behave. > > At least this has worked for me - so far... Hi xTenn. Thanks for the suggestion, unfortunately the problem is more severe than that and your suggestion does not work. Your suggestion definitely makes it worse! How to test. (1) place an image in a OneNote. (Test A, set it as background, Test B, don't set as background) (2) ink on the image. (3) insert a text box above the image (4) hit return repeatedly in an attempt to move the ink. As you will see ... the ink moves, and the picture stays still - especially if the image is set as background. In Test B, the ink *CAN* move with the image, sometimes. If often does, but it's just not robust enough. I test this function sometimes and it works well, the next test fails miserably. It's hard to figure out what to do. Another request I have is to allow INK to "embeddable" into a cell in a Table. That would be very helpful to me. When interviewing clients I'd like to have a table as a template. The left most column would be the areas I have to cover to interview the client. The right most column would be a "Notes" section where I ink notes while talking to the client. If I add a row above my inking or make the row above twice as long, I want the INK to stay in the Notes section. I wish there was a OneNote Professional that functioned more like a wiki/database with Objects that had functions that would integrate more effectively with Office Products. I take notes for a reason and I want the data to be usable. I struggle to find an application that supports handwriting on my tablet effectively. Oh, and I'd also like the ability to digitally sign a OneNote note and lock it from further editing, unless unlocked. However, I do love OneNote peer to peer synching. :) Win Some / Lose Some.

Re: Major Missing feature in OneNote 2007: Grouping items (text, graphics, ink) xTenn <xTennREMOVETHISPART[ at ]tds.net> 3/14/2007 7:11:11 PM EMRhelp.org wrote: [Quoted Text] > On Mar 14, 11:10 am, xTenn <xTennREMOVETHISP...[ at ]tds.net> wrote: > Hi xTenn. Thanks for the suggestion, unfortunately the problem is > more severe than that and your suggestion does not work. Your > suggestion definitely makes it worse! > > How to test. > > (1) place an image in a OneNote. (Test A, set it as background, > Test B, don't set as background) > (2) ink on the image. > (3) insert a text box above the image > (4) hit return repeatedly in an attempt to move the ink. > > As you will see ... the ink moves, and the picture stays still - > especially if the image is set as background. > In Test B, the ink *CAN* move with the image, sometimes. If often > does, but it's just not robust enough. I test this function sometimes > and it works well, the next test fails miserably. It's hard to figure > out what to do. > Ah, if you are mixing text with ink then yes that will not work. They simply do not mix well - better in 2007, but still not well (as the need for the lasso illustrates IMHO). I hate to say it, but I will try to avoid using both when annotating/marking. This is not always possible and/or probable. BTW, Great suggestions for improvement. Keep them coming - makes things better for me too. ;)