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Can I assign multiple backups to different disks?
OneNoteWonder 12/8/2008 5:41:00 AM
It seems that if more than one backup copy is specified, they are all saved
at the same destination disk location. I'd like to be able to continue saving
one of my multiple backups in the traditional (default) hard drive location,
but since I have mission critical data, I'd also like the flexibility to
secure a second backup on some external location (other hard drive, flash
drive). However, it doesn't appear that OneNote permits multiple backups to
save to separate locations -- or does it? If not, do other users with similar
interests have recommendations on ways to accomplish this? Many thanks.
Re: Can I assign multiple backups to different disks?
"Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> 12/8/2008 4:26:34 PM
OneNoteWonder wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> It seems that if more than one backup copy is specified, they are
> all saved at the same destination disk location. I'd like to be
> able to continue saving one of my multiple backups in the
> traditional (default) hard drive location, but since I have mission
> critical data, I'd also like the flexibility to secure a second
> backup on some external location (other hard drive, flash drive).
> However, it doesn't appear that OneNote permits multiple backups to
> save to separate locations -- or does it? If not, do other users
> with similar interests have recommendations on ways to accomplish
> this? Many thanks.

One could temporarily set the location for the backup files to a
different drive:
Tools > Options > Save
and then make a complete backup of all open notebooks.

Another way would be to just manually copy the backup directory to some
other place (using the Explorer) and or synch them to another location
(using the MS SyncToy f.e.).

Rainald
P.S. Just a warning: Never ever use any synching-software on the ON
notebooks!!

Re: Can I assign multiple backups to different disks?
OneNoteWonder 12/9/2008 9:10:09 PM
Thank you, Rainald. This answers my question from the perspective that there
is no ON feature permitting the user to assign separate locations to which
multiple backups are saved.

Your suggestion to use drag-drop copying offers me the best option. Again,
thanks.


"Rainald Taesler" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> OneNoteWonder wrote:
>
> > It seems that if more than one backup copy is specified, they are
> > all saved at the same destination disk location. I'd like to be
> > able to continue saving one of my multiple backups in the
> > traditional (default) hard drive location, but since I have mission
> > critical data, I'd also like the flexibility to secure a second
> > backup on some external location (other hard drive, flash drive).
> > However, it doesn't appear that OneNote permits multiple backups to
> > save to separate locations -- or does it? If not, do other users
> > with similar interests have recommendations on ways to accomplish
> > this? Many thanks.
>
> One could temporarily set the location for the backup files to a
> different drive:
> Tools > Options > Save
> and then make a complete backup of all open notebooks.
>
> Another way would be to just manually copy the backup directory to some
> other place (using the Explorer) and or synch them to another location
> (using the MS SyncToy f.e.).
>
> Rainald
> P.S. Just a warning: Never ever use any synching-software on the ON
> notebooks!!
>
>
Re: Can I assign multiple backups to different disks?
"David" <david.powerbits[ at ]nogmailspam.com> 12/9/2008 11:14:22 PM
Or you could automate the drag-drop copying by using a Scheduled Task.

--

David Olsen
www.powerbits.com.au


"OneNoteWonder" <OneNoteWonder[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8D9A2316-D404-4181-B915-353E0B66B82C[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Thank you, Rainald. This answers my question from the perspective that
> there
> is no ON feature permitting the user to assign separate locations to which
> multiple backups are saved.
>
> Your suggestion to use drag-drop copying offers me the best option. Again,
> thanks.
>
>
> "Rainald Taesler" wrote:
>
>> OneNoteWonder wrote:
>>
>> > It seems that if more than one backup copy is specified, they are
>> > all saved at the same destination disk location. I'd like to be
>> > able to continue saving one of my multiple backups in the
>> > traditional (default) hard drive location, but since I have mission
>> > critical data, I'd also like the flexibility to secure a second
>> > backup on some external location (other hard drive, flash drive).
>> > However, it doesn't appear that OneNote permits multiple backups to
>> > save to separate locations -- or does it? If not, do other users
>> > with similar interests have recommendations on ways to accomplish
>> > this? Many thanks.
>>
>> One could temporarily set the location for the backup files to a
>> different drive:
>> Tools > Options > Save
>> and then make a complete backup of all open notebooks.
>>
>> Another way would be to just manually copy the backup directory to some
>> other place (using the Explorer) and or synch them to another location
>> (using the MS SyncToy f.e.).
>>
>> Rainald
>> P.S. Just a warning: Never ever use any synching-software on the ON
>> notebooks!!
>>
>>


Re: Can I assign multiple backups to different disks?
OneNoteWonder 12/10/2008 9:24:03 PM
Thank you, David. A great option that I'll experiment with.


"David" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Or you could automate the drag-drop copying by using a Scheduled Task.
>
> --
>
> David Olsen
> www.powerbits.com.au
>
>
> "OneNoteWonder" <OneNoteWonder[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8D9A2316-D404-4181-B915-353E0B66B82C[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > Thank you, Rainald. This answers my question from the perspective that
> > there
> > is no ON feature permitting the user to assign separate locations to which
> > multiple backups are saved.
> >
> > Your suggestion to use drag-drop copying offers me the best option. Again,
> > thanks.
> >
> >
> > "Rainald Taesler" wrote:
> >
> >> OneNoteWonder wrote:
> >>
> >> > It seems that if more than one backup copy is specified, they are
> >> > all saved at the same destination disk location. I'd like to be
> >> > able to continue saving one of my multiple backups in the
> >> > traditional (default) hard drive location, but since I have mission
> >> > critical data, I'd also like the flexibility to secure a second
> >> > backup on some external location (other hard drive, flash drive).
> >> > However, it doesn't appear that OneNote permits multiple backups to
> >> > save to separate locations -- or does it? If not, do other users
> >> > with similar interests have recommendations on ways to accomplish
> >> > this? Many thanks.
> >>
> >> One could temporarily set the location for the backup files to a
> >> different drive:
> >> Tools > Options > Save
> >> and then make a complete backup of all open notebooks.
> >>
> >> Another way would be to just manually copy the backup directory to some
> >> other place (using the Explorer) and or synch them to another location
> >> (using the MS SyncToy f.e.).
> >>
> >> Rainald
> >> P.S. Just a warning: Never ever use any synching-software on the ON
> >> notebooks!!
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
Re: Can I assign multiple backups to different disks?
Steve Silverwood <kb6ojs[ at ]arrl.net> 12/16/2008 12:18:58 AM
On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 17:26:34 +0100, "Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de>
wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>Another way would be to just manually copy the backup directory to some
>other place (using the Explorer) and or synch them to another location
>(using the MS SyncToy f.e.).

Why not just use something simple like WinZip or WinRAR to make an
archive copy of the actual "OneNote Notebooks" folder? As long as
OneNote isn't open at the time, it shouldn't be an issue, right?

>Rainald
>P.S. Just a warning: Never ever use any synching-software on the ON
>notebooks!!

OK, I gotta ask: what's the reasoning behind this?

One of the tools I use to keep things sync'd between computers -- and
not many items, just a few -- is Groove 2007. I should think that a
tool that Microsoft makes would be capable of sync'ing data for a
Microsoft product. Doubly so, considering both tools are part of the
Office 2007 suite of applications.

So what trick am I missing here?

//Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Email: kb6ojs[ at ]arrl.net
Web: http://kb6ojs.com
Re: Can I assign multiple backups to different disks?
"Erik Sojka (MVP)" <esojka[ at ]ms-onenote.net.nospam> 12/16/2008 12:42:31 AM
Groove is a separate, purchased program and has not had the integration and
testing of the other core Office apps have had.

Rainald is referring to the fact that ON does its own syncing which
relies on data inside the Section file. There is a chance that you can
corrupt the data inside a section file if you use a sync tool that only
looks at a file's timestamps to control replication, and does not know how
to read the data inside the Section file.

Assuming ON is closed at the time, zipping up files for backup purposes
and/or using a file sync util as a one-way backup tool is fine. Relying on
these methods to share data or simulate a shared notebook will corrupt your
data.

Steve Silverwood <kb6ojs[ at ]arrl.net> wrote in
news:0vsdk4d761df7jfpbjpdjld76ndch2mo2u[ at ]4ax.com:

[Quoted Text]
> On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 17:26:34 +0100, "Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de>
> wrote:
>
>>Another way would be to just manually copy the backup directory to some
>>other place (using the Explorer) and or synch them to another location
>>(using the MS SyncToy f.e.).
>
> Why not just use something simple like WinZip or WinRAR to make an
> archive copy of the actual "OneNote Notebooks" folder? As long as
> OneNote isn't open at the time, it shouldn't be an issue, right?
>
>>Rainald
>>P.S. Just a warning: Never ever use any synching-software on the ON
>>notebooks!!
>
> OK, I gotta ask: what's the reasoning behind this?
>
> One of the tools I use to keep things sync'd between computers -- and
> not many items, just a few -- is Groove 2007. I should think that a
> tool that Microsoft makes would be capable of sync'ing data for a
> Microsoft product. Doubly so, considering both tools are part of the
> Office 2007 suite of applications.
>
> So what trick am I missing here?
>
> //Steve//
>
> Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
> Email: kb6ojs[ at ]arrl.net
> Web: http://kb6ojs.com
>

Re: Can I assign multiple backups to different disks?
"Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> 12/16/2008 1:16:04 PM
Steve Silverwood wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>> Another way would be to just manually copy the backup directory to
>> some other place (using the Explorer) and or synch them to another
>> location (using the MS SyncToy f.e.).
>
> Why not just use something simple like WinZip or WinRAR to make an
> archive copy of the actual "OneNote Notebooks" folder? As long as
> OneNote isn't open at the time, it shouldn't be an issue, right?

Ro keep to the standards of ON (which has a Backup-feature as well as
feature to open a Backup) I would recommend to just make a backup inside
ON (Tools > Options) and then copy or pack the *Backup-folder*.

>> P.S. Just a warning: Never ever use any synching-software on the ON
>> notebooks!!
>
> OK, I gotta ask: what's the reasoning behind this?

Erik was right in that I was referring to the Synch-feature of ON (one
of the best things in ON) and the *notebook* directory (not the separate
backup-folder).

> One of the tools I use to keep things sync'd between computers --
> and not many items, just a few -- is Groove 2007. I should think
> that a tool that Microsoft makes would be capable of sync'ing data
> for a Microsoft product. Doubly so, considering both tools are
> part of the Office 2007 suite of applications.

I did not have Groove in mind. I never used it but I think to remember
that there are problems with using it for ON too.

> So what trick am I missing here?

As said - as far as synching of notebooks is concerned:
When notebooks are used on more than just *one* computer, one should
always along the scheme built-in in ON.
This means to store the notebooks only on *one* computer and open them
"shared" on the other(s).
Then ON will perform it's built-in "synchronization" which - BTW - IMHO
is not the proper terminology: In fact it's *REPLICATION*.
What ON has in so far is a most sophisticated way of taking care of the
needs of people using more than one computer and/or more than one people
working with the same data (and I would love to have that with other
applications too).
These patterns will be spoilt if synching software (incl. "Offline
Folders") is used to keep the *notebook*-folders on different computers
in synch.

Hope it's a bit more clear now
Rainald





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