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Saving mail merge template not saving setting in address block
Luvsql 6/11/2007 8:48:01 PM
We are using CRM and need to link certain fields in a mail merge, plus mark
the option to always include the country field. I can do this on a new mail
merge, then update all labels, however, I need to save these settings, so
that the user printing the labels does not have to re-map the fields etc. As
well, we wanted to save the specific label size and margin settings, so we
need to save as a template.

When we use the saved template, the field mappings are back to the default
and the country is not marked. If I right-click on the first one, I can
re-map and mark to print the country, however, it only applies to the first
label and there is no update all labels. How do I apply this to the
remaining hundred or so labels?


Re: Saving mail merge template not saving setting in address block
"Peter Jamieson" <pjj[ at ]KillmapSpjjnet.demon.co.uk> 6/12/2007 3:03:04 AM
If you need the users to be able to connect to different data sources and
you are therefore unlinking the data source from the document before saving
it as a template, you will lose any mappings you have set up (it doesn't
really matter how you unlink the data source).

So yes, you do have to recreate the mappings when you attach a new data
source. You may be able to simplify that by using a VBA macro, but only
after the data source has been attached - in other words, you couldn't put
the macro code in an AutoOpen macro unless that also opened the data source.

However, I don't experience the same problem as you when I create a new
document based on a template. Yes, I have to go into the mappings again, but
the ADDRESSBLOCK field is still set up to include the country. Are you sure
it is changing? (the option is stored as a \c 1 switch in the field and I
don't see any reason that it would change)..

Further, the mappings are independent of any individual field, so once you
have edited the first ADDRESSBLOCK field, the others should apply the
mapping also. It's possible that when you are previewing the change isn't
immediately apparent.

i.e., I don't think you should need to propagate. But if I am wrong and you
do need to do that, you need to ensure that the document is set to be a
label type merge. If you unlinked the data source before saving the
doc/template, you probably turned it into "Not a merge document". However,
if you enable the mail merge toolbar, use the first button to seelect the
label type merge, cancel out of the label dialog, then save the document, it
should be saved as a label type merge and the Propagate option should be
available.

Wish it was simpler. You can of course avoid ADDRESSBLOCK altogether and use
individual merge fields nested within the necessary IF fields, and avoid
mapping altogether.

Peter Jamieson

"Luvsql" <Luvsql[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0C475303-4D2D-4380-8FF4-23125C2DAF60[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> We are using CRM and need to link certain fields in a mail merge, plus
> mark
> the option to always include the country field. I can do this on a new
> mail
> merge, then update all labels, however, I need to save these settings, so
> that the user printing the labels does not have to re-map the fields etc.
> As
> well, we wanted to save the specific label size and margin settings, so we
> need to save as a template.
>
> When we use the saved template, the field mappings are back to the default
> and the country is not marked. If I right-click on the first one, I can
> re-map and mark to print the country, however, it only applies to the
> first
> label and there is no update all labels. How do I apply this to the
> remaining hundred or so labels?
>
>

Re: Saving mail merge template not saving setting in address block
Luvsql 6/12/2007 12:36:01 PM
It is not different data sources. It is always CRM, which is SQL Server.

I am positive that the country setting is not marked. How do you add a
switch to this window?

I am positive that it is not applying it to the other fields as only the
first label shows the country. If I go back, then right-click to edit and
mark the country for the second label, it then prints the country. I don't
want to have to do this for 2500 labels.

"Peter Jamieson" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> If you need the users to be able to connect to different data sources and
> you are therefore unlinking the data source from the document before saving
> it as a template, you will lose any mappings you have set up (it doesn't
> really matter how you unlink the data source).
>
> So yes, you do have to recreate the mappings when you attach a new data
> source. You may be able to simplify that by using a VBA macro, but only
> after the data source has been attached - in other words, you couldn't put
> the macro code in an AutoOpen macro unless that also opened the data source.
>
> However, I don't experience the same problem as you when I create a new
> document based on a template. Yes, I have to go into the mappings again, but
> the ADDRESSBLOCK field is still set up to include the country. Are you sure
> it is changing? (the option is stored as a \c 1 switch in the field and I
> don't see any reason that it would change)..
>
> Further, the mappings are independent of any individual field, so once you
> have edited the first ADDRESSBLOCK field, the others should apply the
> mapping also. It's possible that when you are previewing the change isn't
> immediately apparent.
>
> i.e., I don't think you should need to propagate. But if I am wrong and you
> do need to do that, you need to ensure that the document is set to be a
> label type merge. If you unlinked the data source before saving the
> doc/template, you probably turned it into "Not a merge document". However,
> if you enable the mail merge toolbar, use the first button to seelect the
> label type merge, cancel out of the label dialog, then save the document, it
> should be saved as a label type merge and the Propagate option should be
> available.
>
> Wish it was simpler. You can of course avoid ADDRESSBLOCK altogether and use
> individual merge fields nested within the necessary IF fields, and avoid
> mapping altogether.
>
> Peter Jamieson
>
> "Luvsql" <Luvsql[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0C475303-4D2D-4380-8FF4-23125C2DAF60[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > We are using CRM and need to link certain fields in a mail merge, plus
> > mark
> > the option to always include the country field. I can do this on a new
> > mail
> > merge, then update all labels, however, I need to save these settings, so
> > that the user printing the labels does not have to re-map the fields etc.
> > As
> > well, we wanted to save the specific label size and margin settings, so we
> > need to save as a template.
> >
> > When we use the saved template, the field mappings are back to the default
> > and the country is not marked. If I right-click on the first one, I can
> > re-map and mark to print the country, however, it only applies to the
> > first
> > label and there is no update all labels. How do I apply this to the
> > remaining hundred or so labels?
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Saving mail merge template not saving setting in address block
"Peter Jamieson" <pjj[ at ]KillmapSpjjnet.demon.co.uk> 6/12/2007 3:17:27 PM
OK, /here/, if I
a/ create a Label Mail Merge Document,
b. connect to a SQL Server data source
c. insert an ADDRESSBLOCK field in label 1 set to "Always include the
country/region in the address" and map one of the fields to something
different from the thing that Word automatically mapped it to
d. propagate fields
e. save as a .dot

then when I create a new document based on the template, the mappings are
still there, the country is still there, and the main problem is that the
same address appears in each label until you either do the merge or move
records in preview (e.g. using the Mail Merge toolbar).

In other words, it seems to work more or less as you might hope.

So what could be different?...
When you open the template, or create a new document based on the template,
is the data source attached? And is the type set to Labels? If not, you
won't be able to propagate anyway.

<<
[Quoted Text]
> How do you add a
> switch to this window?
>>

Assuming you are selecting the "Always include the country/region in the
address" option in the Addressblock setup/edit dialog box, if you use Alt-F9
to view the Addressblock field code, you should see something along the
general lines of

{ ADDRESSBLOCK \f "various name and address specification pseudo-fields with
<< >> around them" \c 1 \d } and perhaps other stuff such as \e "United
States of America"

If you can't see all of the text in the field because the table cell is too
small, you can copy/paste the field into a new document and have a look at
the field code in there.

While trying to get to the bottom of this, it might be easier to use a
"Letter type" merge document where you can inspect the ADDRESSBLOCK code
more easily than you can in a Label cell.

NB, if the country flag is wrong in all the ADDRESSBLOCK fields, I would
expect to have to re-propagate after fixing the problem in label 1. But I
wouldn't expect to have to re-propagate if my mappings were wrong.

Peter Jamieson

"Luvsql" <Luvsql[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:254BA03C-C4A1-4CF5-B96D-7D180D6B338A[ at ]microsoft.com...
> It is not different data sources. It is always CRM, which is SQL Server.
>
> I am positive that the country setting is not marked. How do you add a
> switch to this window?
>
> I am positive that it is not applying it to the other fields as only the
> first label shows the country. If I go back, then right-click to edit and
> mark the country for the second label, it then prints the country. I
> don't
> want to have to do this for 2500 labels.
>
> "Peter Jamieson" wrote:
>
>> If you need the users to be able to connect to different data sources and
>> you are therefore unlinking the data source from the document before
>> saving
>> it as a template, you will lose any mappings you have set up (it doesn't
>> really matter how you unlink the data source).
>>
>> So yes, you do have to recreate the mappings when you attach a new data
>> source. You may be able to simplify that by using a VBA macro, but only
>> after the data source has been attached - in other words, you couldn't
>> put
>> the macro code in an AutoOpen macro unless that also opened the data
>> source.
>>
>> However, I don't experience the same problem as you when I create a new
>> document based on a template. Yes, I have to go into the mappings again,
>> but
>> the ADDRESSBLOCK field is still set up to include the country. Are you
>> sure
>> it is changing? (the option is stored as a \c 1 switch in the field and I
>> don't see any reason that it would change)..
>>
>> Further, the mappings are independent of any individual field, so once
>> you
>> have edited the first ADDRESSBLOCK field, the others should apply the
>> mapping also. It's possible that when you are previewing the change isn't
>> immediately apparent.
>>
>> i.e., I don't think you should need to propagate. But if I am wrong and
>> you
>> do need to do that, you need to ensure that the document is set to be a
>> label type merge. If you unlinked the data source before saving the
>> doc/template, you probably turned it into "Not a merge document".
>> However,
>> if you enable the mail merge toolbar, use the first button to seelect the
>> label type merge, cancel out of the label dialog, then save the document,
>> it
>> should be saved as a label type merge and the Propagate option should be
>> available.
>>
>> Wish it was simpler. You can of course avoid ADDRESSBLOCK altogether and
>> use
>> individual merge fields nested within the necessary IF fields, and avoid
>> mapping altogether.
>>
>> Peter Jamieson
>>
>> "Luvsql" <Luvsql[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:0C475303-4D2D-4380-8FF4-23125C2DAF60[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> > We are using CRM and need to link certain fields in a mail merge, plus
>> > mark
>> > the option to always include the country field. I can do this on a new
>> > mail
>> > merge, then update all labels, however, I need to save these settings,
>> > so
>> > that the user printing the labels does not have to re-map the fields
>> > etc.
>> > As
>> > well, we wanted to save the specific label size and margin settings, so
>> > we
>> > need to save as a template.
>> >
>> > When we use the saved template, the field mappings are back to the
>> > default
>> > and the country is not marked. If I right-click on the first one, I
>> > can
>> > re-map and mark to print the country, however, it only applies to the
>> > first
>> > label and there is no update all labels. How do I apply this to the
>> > remaining hundred or so labels?
>> >
>> >
>>
>>

Re: Saving mail merge template not saving setting in address block
Luvsql 6/12/2007 4:05:00 PM
If I open the template on its own (after word giving me an error because I am
not connected to my datasource which is generated directly out of CRM), I am
not able to right-click on the addressblock to see if the fields are still
mapped or if the country flag is marked (needs datasource to do that).

I tried a merge just with Outlook contacts and it seems to retain this info.
I guess it looks like CRM is overriding this information on the template.

"Peter Jamieson" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> OK, /here/, if I
> a/ create a Label Mail Merge Document,
> b. connect to a SQL Server data source
> c. insert an ADDRESSBLOCK field in label 1 set to "Always include the
> country/region in the address" and map one of the fields to something
> different from the thing that Word automatically mapped it to
> d. propagate fields
> e. save as a .dot
>
> then when I create a new document based on the template, the mappings are
> still there, the country is still there, and the main problem is that the
> same address appears in each label until you either do the merge or move
> records in preview (e.g. using the Mail Merge toolbar).
>
> In other words, it seems to work more or less as you might hope.
>
> So what could be different?...
> When you open the template, or create a new document based on the template,
> is the data source attached? And is the type set to Labels? If not, you
> won't be able to propagate anyway.
>
> <<
> > How do you add a
> > switch to this window?
> >>
>
> Assuming you are selecting the "Always include the country/region in the
> address" option in the Addressblock setup/edit dialog box, if you use Alt-F9
> to view the Addressblock field code, you should see something along the
> general lines of
>
> { ADDRESSBLOCK \f "various name and address specification pseudo-fields with
> << >> around them" \c 1 \d } and perhaps other stuff such as \e "United
> States of America"
>
> If you can't see all of the text in the field because the table cell is too
> small, you can copy/paste the field into a new document and have a look at
> the field code in there.
>
> While trying to get to the bottom of this, it might be easier to use a
> "Letter type" merge document where you can inspect the ADDRESSBLOCK code
> more easily than you can in a Label cell.
>
> NB, if the country flag is wrong in all the ADDRESSBLOCK fields, I would
> expect to have to re-propagate after fixing the problem in label 1. But I
> wouldn't expect to have to re-propagate if my mappings were wrong.
>
> Peter Jamieson
>
> "Luvsql" <Luvsql[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:254BA03C-C4A1-4CF5-B96D-7D180D6B338A[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > It is not different data sources. It is always CRM, which is SQL Server.
> >
> > I am positive that the country setting is not marked. How do you add a
> > switch to this window?
> >
> > I am positive that it is not applying it to the other fields as only the
> > first label shows the country. If I go back, then right-click to edit and
> > mark the country for the second label, it then prints the country. I
> > don't
> > want to have to do this for 2500 labels.
> >
> > "Peter Jamieson" wrote:
> >
> >> If you need the users to be able to connect to different data sources and
> >> you are therefore unlinking the data source from the document before
> >> saving
> >> it as a template, you will lose any mappings you have set up (it doesn't
> >> really matter how you unlink the data source).
> >>
> >> So yes, you do have to recreate the mappings when you attach a new data
> >> source. You may be able to simplify that by using a VBA macro, but only
> >> after the data source has been attached - in other words, you couldn't
> >> put
> >> the macro code in an AutoOpen macro unless that also opened the data
> >> source.
> >>
> >> However, I don't experience the same problem as you when I create a new
> >> document based on a template. Yes, I have to go into the mappings again,
> >> but
> >> the ADDRESSBLOCK field is still set up to include the country. Are you
> >> sure
> >> it is changing? (the option is stored as a \c 1 switch in the field and I
> >> don't see any reason that it would change)..
> >>
> >> Further, the mappings are independent of any individual field, so once
> >> you
> >> have edited the first ADDRESSBLOCK field, the others should apply the
> >> mapping also. It's possible that when you are previewing the change isn't
> >> immediately apparent.
> >>
> >> i.e., I don't think you should need to propagate. But if I am wrong and
> >> you
> >> do need to do that, you need to ensure that the document is set to be a
> >> label type merge. If you unlinked the data source before saving the
> >> doc/template, you probably turned it into "Not a merge document".
> >> However,
> >> if you enable the mail merge toolbar, use the first button to seelect the
> >> label type merge, cancel out of the label dialog, then save the document,
> >> it
> >> should be saved as a label type merge and the Propagate option should be
> >> available.
> >>
> >> Wish it was simpler. You can of course avoid ADDRESSBLOCK altogether and
> >> use
> >> individual merge fields nested within the necessary IF fields, and avoid
> >> mapping altogether.
> >>
> >> Peter Jamieson
> >>
> >> "Luvsql" <Luvsql[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:0C475303-4D2D-4380-8FF4-23125C2DAF60[ at ]microsoft.com...
> >> > We are using CRM and need to link certain fields in a mail merge, plus
> >> > mark
> >> > the option to always include the country field. I can do this on a new
> >> > mail
> >> > merge, then update all labels, however, I need to save these settings,
> >> > so
> >> > that the user printing the labels does not have to re-map the fields
> >> > etc.
> >> > As
> >> > well, we wanted to save the specific label size and margin settings, so
> >> > we
> >> > need to save as a template.
> >> >
> >> > When we use the saved template, the field mappings are back to the
> >> > default
> >> > and the country is not marked. If I right-click on the first one, I
> >> > can
> >> > re-map and mark to print the country, however, it only applies to the
> >> > first
> >> > label and there is no update all labels. How do I apply this to the
> >> > remaining hundred or so labels?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: Saving mail merge template not saving setting in address block
"Peter Jamieson" <pjj[ at ]KillmapSpjjnet.demon.co.uk> 6/12/2007 4:13:06 PM
[Quoted Text]
> after word giving me an error because I am
> not connected to my datasource which is generated directly out of CRM

OK, this seems to be the origin of at least some of the problems. If the
source is disconnected, you will lose those mappings. When you reconnect to
the source, what do you choose? Is it a .odc that connects to a SQL Server
file or are you choosing a text file of some kind exported by CRM? (I don't
have a copy of the CRM stuff here)

Peter Jamieson
"Luvsql" <Luvsql[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:674FD9DE-BD87-4BE5-BEF8-7FFBF69E5F2F[ at ]microsoft.com...
> If I open the template on its own (after word giving me an error because I
> am
> not connected to my datasource which is generated directly out of CRM), I
> am
> not able to right-click on the addressblock to see if the fields are still
> mapped or if the country flag is marked (needs datasource to do that).
>
> I tried a merge just with Outlook contacts and it seems to retain this
> info.
> I guess it looks like CRM is overriding this information on the template.
>
> "Peter Jamieson" wrote:
>
>> OK, /here/, if I
>> a/ create a Label Mail Merge Document,
>> b. connect to a SQL Server data source
>> c. insert an ADDRESSBLOCK field in label 1 set to "Always include the
>> country/region in the address" and map one of the fields to something
>> different from the thing that Word automatically mapped it to
>> d. propagate fields
>> e. save as a .dot
>>
>> then when I create a new document based on the template, the mappings are
>> still there, the country is still there, and the main problem is that the
>> same address appears in each label until you either do the merge or move
>> records in preview (e.g. using the Mail Merge toolbar).
>>
>> In other words, it seems to work more or less as you might hope.
>>
>> So what could be different?...
>> When you open the template, or create a new document based on the
>> template,
>> is the data source attached? And is the type set to Labels? If not, you
>> won't be able to propagate anyway.
>>
>> <<
>> > How do you add a
>> > switch to this window?
>> >>
>>
>> Assuming you are selecting the "Always include the country/region in the
>> address" option in the Addressblock setup/edit dialog box, if you use
>> Alt-F9
>> to view the Addressblock field code, you should see something along the
>> general lines of
>>
>> { ADDRESSBLOCK \f "various name and address specification pseudo-fields
>> with
>> << >> around them" \c 1 \d } and perhaps other stuff such as \e "United
>> States of America"
>>
>> If you can't see all of the text in the field because the table cell is
>> too
>> small, you can copy/paste the field into a new document and have a look
>> at
>> the field code in there.
>>
>> While trying to get to the bottom of this, it might be easier to use a
>> "Letter type" merge document where you can inspect the ADDRESSBLOCK code
>> more easily than you can in a Label cell.
>>
>> NB, if the country flag is wrong in all the ADDRESSBLOCK fields, I would
>> expect to have to re-propagate after fixing the problem in label 1. But I
>> wouldn't expect to have to re-propagate if my mappings were wrong.
>>
>> Peter Jamieson
>>
>> "Luvsql" <Luvsql[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:254BA03C-C4A1-4CF5-B96D-7D180D6B338A[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> > It is not different data sources. It is always CRM, which is SQL
>> > Server.
>> >
>> > I am positive that the country setting is not marked. How do you add a
>> > switch to this window?
>> >
>> > I am positive that it is not applying it to the other fields as only
>> > the
>> > first label shows the country. If I go back, then right-click to edit
>> > and
>> > mark the country for the second label, it then prints the country. I
>> > don't
>> > want to have to do this for 2500 labels.
>> >
>> > "Peter Jamieson" wrote:
>> >
>> >> If you need the users to be able to connect to different data sources
>> >> and
>> >> you are therefore unlinking the data source from the document before
>> >> saving
>> >> it as a template, you will lose any mappings you have set up (it
>> >> doesn't
>> >> really matter how you unlink the data source).
>> >>
>> >> So yes, you do have to recreate the mappings when you attach a new
>> >> data
>> >> source. You may be able to simplify that by using a VBA macro, but
>> >> only
>> >> after the data source has been attached - in other words, you couldn't
>> >> put
>> >> the macro code in an AutoOpen macro unless that also opened the data
>> >> source.
>> >>
>> >> However, I don't experience the same problem as you when I create a
>> >> new
>> >> document based on a template. Yes, I have to go into the mappings
>> >> again,
>> >> but
>> >> the ADDRESSBLOCK field is still set up to include the country. Are you
>> >> sure
>> >> it is changing? (the option is stored as a \c 1 switch in the field
>> >> and I
>> >> don't see any reason that it would change)..
>> >>
>> >> Further, the mappings are independent of any individual field, so once
>> >> you
>> >> have edited the first ADDRESSBLOCK field, the others should apply the
>> >> mapping also. It's possible that when you are previewing the change
>> >> isn't
>> >> immediately apparent.
>> >>
>> >> i.e., I don't think you should need to propagate. But if I am wrong
>> >> and
>> >> you
>> >> do need to do that, you need to ensure that the document is set to be
>> >> a
>> >> label type merge. If you unlinked the data source before saving the
>> >> doc/template, you probably turned it into "Not a merge document".
>> >> However,
>> >> if you enable the mail merge toolbar, use the first button to seelect
>> >> the
>> >> label type merge, cancel out of the label dialog, then save the
>> >> document,
>> >> it
>> >> should be saved as a label type merge and the Propagate option should
>> >> be
>> >> available.
>> >>
>> >> Wish it was simpler. You can of course avoid ADDRESSBLOCK altogether
>> >> and
>> >> use
>> >> individual merge fields nested within the necessary IF fields, and
>> >> avoid
>> >> mapping altogether.
>> >>
>> >> Peter Jamieson
>> >>
>> >> "Luvsql" <Luvsql[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:0C475303-4D2D-4380-8FF4-23125C2DAF60[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> >> > We are using CRM and need to link certain fields in a mail merge,
>> >> > plus
>> >> > mark
>> >> > the option to always include the country field. I can do this on a
>> >> > new
>> >> > mail
>> >> > merge, then update all labels, however, I need to save these
>> >> > settings,
>> >> > so
>> >> > that the user printing the labels does not have to re-map the fields
>> >> > etc.
>> >> > As
>> >> > well, we wanted to save the specific label size and margin settings,
>> >> > so
>> >> > we
>> >> > need to save as a template.
>> >> >
>> >> > When we use the saved template, the field mappings are back to the
>> >> > default
>> >> > and the country is not marked. If I right-click on the first one, I
>> >> > can
>> >> > re-map and mark to print the country, however, it only applies to
>> >> > the
>> >> > first
>> >> > label and there is no update all labels. How do I apply this to the
>> >> > remaining hundred or so labels?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

Re: Saving mail merge template not saving setting in address block
Luvsql 6/12/2007 5:40:01 PM
Actually we start in CRM, then open the template document and the fields get
updated by the selection criteria in CRM.

"Peter Jamieson" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> > after word giving me an error because I am
> > not connected to my datasource which is generated directly out of CRM
>
> OK, this seems to be the origin of at least some of the problems. If the
> source is disconnected, you will lose those mappings. When you reconnect to
> the source, what do you choose? Is it a .odc that connects to a SQL Server
> file or are you choosing a text file of some kind exported by CRM? (I don't
> have a copy of the CRM stuff here)
>
> Peter Jamieson
> "Luvsql" <Luvsql[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:674FD9DE-BD87-4BE5-BEF8-7FFBF69E5F2F[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > If I open the template on its own (after word giving me an error because I
> > am
> > not connected to my datasource which is generated directly out of CRM), I
> > am
> > not able to right-click on the addressblock to see if the fields are still
> > mapped or if the country flag is marked (needs datasource to do that).
> >
> > I tried a merge just with Outlook contacts and it seems to retain this
> > info.
> > I guess it looks like CRM is overriding this information on the template.
> >
> > "Peter Jamieson" wrote:
> >
> >> OK, /here/, if I
> >> a/ create a Label Mail Merge Document,
> >> b. connect to a SQL Server data source
> >> c. insert an ADDRESSBLOCK field in label 1 set to "Always include the
> >> country/region in the address" and map one of the fields to something
> >> different from the thing that Word automatically mapped it to
> >> d. propagate fields
> >> e. save as a .dot
> >>
> >> then when I create a new document based on the template, the mappings are
> >> still there, the country is still there, and the main problem is that the
> >> same address appears in each label until you either do the merge or move
> >> records in preview (e.g. using the Mail Merge toolbar).
> >>
> >> In other words, it seems to work more or less as you might hope.
> >>
> >> So what could be different?...
> >> When you open the template, or create a new document based on the
> >> template,
> >> is the data source attached? And is the type set to Labels? If not, you
> >> won't be able to propagate anyway.
> >>
> >> <<
> >> > How do you add a
> >> > switch to this window?
> >> >>
> >>
> >> Assuming you are selecting the "Always include the country/region in the
> >> address" option in the Addressblock setup/edit dialog box, if you use
> >> Alt-F9
> >> to view the Addressblock field code, you should see something along the
> >> general lines of
> >>
> >> { ADDRESSBLOCK \f "various name and address specification pseudo-fields
> >> with
> >> << >> around them" \c 1 \d } and perhaps other stuff such as \e "United
> >> States of America"
> >>
> >> If you can't see all of the text in the field because the table cell is
> >> too
> >> small, you can copy/paste the field into a new document and have a look
> >> at
> >> the field code in there.
> >>
> >> While trying to get to the bottom of this, it might be easier to use a
> >> "Letter type" merge document where you can inspect the ADDRESSBLOCK code
> >> more easily than you can in a Label cell.
> >>
> >> NB, if the country flag is wrong in all the ADDRESSBLOCK fields, I would
> >> expect to have to re-propagate after fixing the problem in label 1. But I
> >> wouldn't expect to have to re-propagate if my mappings were wrong.
> >>
> >> Peter Jamieson
> >>
> >> "Luvsql" <Luvsql[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:254BA03C-C4A1-4CF5-B96D-7D180D6B338A[ at ]microsoft.com...
> >> > It is not different data sources. It is always CRM, which is SQL
> >> > Server.
> >> >
> >> > I am positive that the country setting is not marked. How do you add a
> >> > switch to this window?
> >> >
> >> > I am positive that it is not applying it to the other fields as only
> >> > the
> >> > first label shows the country. If I go back, then right-click to edit
> >> > and
> >> > mark the country for the second label, it then prints the country. I
> >> > don't
> >> > want to have to do this for 2500 labels.
> >> >
> >> > "Peter Jamieson" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> If you need the users to be able to connect to different data sources
> >> >> and
> >> >> you are therefore unlinking the data source from the document before
> >> >> saving
> >> >> it as a template, you will lose any mappings you have set up (it
> >> >> doesn't
> >> >> really matter how you unlink the data source).
> >> >>
> >> >> So yes, you do have to recreate the mappings when you attach a new
> >> >> data
> >> >> source. You may be able to simplify that by using a VBA macro, but
> >> >> only
> >> >> after the data source has been attached - in other words, you couldn't
> >> >> put
> >> >> the macro code in an AutoOpen macro unless that also opened the data
> >> >> source.
> >> >>
> >> >> However, I don't experience the same problem as you when I create a
> >> >> new
> >> >> document based on a template. Yes, I have to go into the mappings
> >> >> again,
> >> >> but
> >> >> the ADDRESSBLOCK field is still set up to include the country. Are you
> >> >> sure
> >> >> it is changing? (the option is stored as a \c 1 switch in the field
> >> >> and I
> >> >> don't see any reason that it would change)..
> >> >>
> >> >> Further, the mappings are independent of any individual field, so once
> >> >> you
> >> >> have edited the first ADDRESSBLOCK field, the others should apply the
> >> >> mapping also. It's possible that when you are previewing the change
> >> >> isn't
> >> >> immediately apparent.
> >> >>
> >> >> i.e., I don't think you should need to propagate. But if I am wrong
> >> >> and
> >> >> you
> >> >> do need to do that, you need to ensure that the document is set to be
> >> >> a
> >> >> label type merge. If you unlinked the data source before saving the
> >> >> doc/template, you probably turned it into "Not a merge document".
> >> >> However,
> >> >> if you enable the mail merge toolbar, use the first button to seelect
> >> >> the
> >> >> label type merge, cancel out of the label dialog, then save the
> >> >> document,
> >> >> it
> >> >> should be saved as a label type merge and the Propagate option should
> >> >> be
> >> >> available.
> >> >>
> >> >> Wish it was simpler. You can of course avoid ADDRESSBLOCK altogether
> >> >> and
> >> >> use
> >> >> individual merge fields nested within the necessary IF fields, and
> >> >> avoid
> >> >> mapping altogether.
> >> >>
> >> >> Peter Jamieson
> >> >>
> >> >> "Luvsql" <Luvsql[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:0C475303-4D2D-4380-8FF4-23125C2DAF60[ at ]microsoft.com...
> >> >> > We are using CRM and need to link certain fields in a mail merge,
> >> >> > plus
> >> >> > mark
> >> >> > the option to always include the country field. I can do this on a
> >> >> > new
> >> >> > mail
> >> >> > merge, then update all labels, however, I need to save these
> >> >> > settings,
> >> >> > so
> >> >> > that the user printing the labels does not have to re-map the fields
> >> >> > etc.
> >> >> > As
> >> >> > well, we wanted to save the specific label size and margin settings,
> >> >> > so
> >> >> > we
> >> >> > need to save as a template.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > When we use the saved template, the field mappings are back to the
> >> >> > default
> >> >> > and the country is not marked. If I right-click on the first one, I
> >> >> > can
> >> >> > re-map and mark to print the country, however, it only applies to
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > first
> >> >> > label and there is no update all labels. How do I apply this to the
> >> >> > remaining hundred or so labels?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: Saving mail merge template not saving setting in address block
"Peter Jamieson" <pjj[ at ]KillmapSpjjnet.demon.co.uk> 6/12/2007 5:57:04 PM
[Quoted Text]
> Actually we start in CRM, then open the template document and the fields
> get
> updated by the selection criteria in CRM.

To be honest, that doesn't tell me a whole lot about how the template is
actually working.

My guess is that merging from CRM is similar to initiating a merge from
Outlook, i.e.
a. CRM gets the data it wants
b. CRM creates a temporary file
c. CRM automates your template to connect it to the temporary data file
d. CRM leaves you with the mail merge main document open.

Does that sound about right?

If so, you will still definitely get the problem with the mappings, and it
may be difficult to fix that.

I've only had brushes with CRM and the impression I have is that it doesn't
make it easy to do the automation necessary to overcome this kind of
problem - e.g. there's no way to pick selected records from /some/ of the
dialogs and do your own automation to pick the necessary data from its
database and shove it out to a data file with a /fixed/ name that a Word
document can then pick up and use. My guess is that you may have to find a
less convenient way to produce what you need in this instance.

Peter Jamieson

"Luvsql" <Luvsql[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4F19E06D-07FA-4706-9C72-23F521E5BE30[ at ]microsoft.com...
> Actually we start in CRM, then open the template document and the fields
> get
> updated by the selection criteria in CRM.
>
> "Peter Jamieson" wrote:
>
>> > after word giving me an error because I am
>> > not connected to my datasource which is generated directly out of CRM
>>
>> OK, this seems to be the origin of at least some of the problems. If the
>> source is disconnected, you will lose those mappings. When you reconnect
>> to
>> the source, what do you choose? Is it a .odc that connects to a SQL
>> Server
>> file or are you choosing a text file of some kind exported by CRM? (I
>> don't
>> have a copy of the CRM stuff here)
>>
>> Peter Jamieson
>> "Luvsql" <Luvsql[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:674FD9DE-BD87-4BE5-BEF8-7FFBF69E5F2F[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> > If I open the template on its own (after word giving me an error
>> > because I
>> > am
>> > not connected to my datasource which is generated directly out of CRM),
>> > I
>> > am
>> > not able to right-click on the addressblock to see if the fields are
>> > still
>> > mapped or if the country flag is marked (needs datasource to do that).
>> >
>> > I tried a merge just with Outlook contacts and it seems to retain this
>> > info.
>> > I guess it looks like CRM is overriding this information on the
>> > template.
>> >
>> > "Peter Jamieson" wrote:
>> >
>> >> OK, /here/, if I
>> >> a/ create a Label Mail Merge Document,
>> >> b. connect to a SQL Server data source
>> >> c. insert an ADDRESSBLOCK field in label 1 set to "Always include the
>> >> country/region in the address" and map one of the fields to something
>> >> different from the thing that Word automatically mapped it to
>> >> d. propagate fields
>> >> e. save as a .dot
>> >>
>> >> then when I create a new document based on the template, the mappings
>> >> are
>> >> still there, the country is still there, and the main problem is that
>> >> the
>> >> same address appears in each label until you either do the merge or
>> >> move
>> >> records in preview (e.g. using the Mail Merge toolbar).
>> >>
>> >> In other words, it seems to work more or less as you might hope.
>> >>
>> >> So what could be different?...
>> >> When you open the template, or create a new document based on the
>> >> template,
>> >> is the data source attached? And is the type set to Labels? If not,
>> >> you
>> >> won't be able to propagate anyway.
>> >>
>> >> <<
>> >> > How do you add a
>> >> > switch to this window?
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >> Assuming you are selecting the "Always include the country/region in
>> >> the
>> >> address" option in the Addressblock setup/edit dialog box, if you use
>> >> Alt-F9
>> >> to view the Addressblock field code, you should see something along
>> >> the
>> >> general lines of
>> >>
>> >> { ADDRESSBLOCK \f "various name and address specification
>> >> pseudo-fields
>> >> with
>> >> << >> around them" \c 1 \d } and perhaps other stuff such as \e
>> >> "United
>> >> States of America"
>> >>
>> >> If you can't see all of the text in the field because the table cell
>> >> is
>> >> too
>> >> small, you can copy/paste the field into a new document and have a
>> >> look
>> >> at
>> >> the field code in there.
>> >>
>> >> While trying to get to the bottom of this, it might be easier to use a
>> >> "Letter type" merge document where you can inspect the ADDRESSBLOCK
>> >> code
>> >> more easily than you can in a Label cell.
>> >>
>> >> NB, if the country flag is wrong in all the ADDRESSBLOCK fields, I
>> >> would
>> >> expect to have to re-propagate after fixing the problem in label 1.
>> >> But I
>> >> wouldn't expect to have to re-propagate if my mappings were wrong.
>> >>
>> >> Peter Jamieson
>> >>
>> >> "Luvsql" <Luvsql[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:254BA03C-C4A1-4CF5-B96D-7D180D6B338A[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> >> > It is not different data sources. It is always CRM, which is SQL
>> >> > Server.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am positive that the country setting is not marked. How do you
>> >> > add a
>> >> > switch to this window?
>> >> >
>> >> > I am positive that it is not applying it to the other fields as only
>> >> > the
>> >> > first label shows the country. If I go back, then right-click to
>> >> > edit
>> >> > and
>> >> > mark the country for the second label, it then prints the country.
>> >> > I
>> >> > don't
>> >> > want to have to do this for 2500 labels.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Peter Jamieson" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> If you need the users to be able to connect to different data
>> >> >> sources
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> you are therefore unlinking the data source from the document
>> >> >> before
>> >> >> saving
>> >> >> it as a template, you will lose any mappings you have set up (it
>> >> >> doesn't
>> >> >> really matter how you unlink the data source).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So yes, you do have to recreate the mappings when you attach a new
>> >> >> data
>> >> >> source. You may be able to simplify that by using a VBA macro, but
>> >> >> only
>> >> >> after the data source has been attached - in other words, you
>> >> >> couldn't
>> >> >> put
>> >> >> the macro code in an AutoOpen macro unless that also opened the
>> >> >> data
>> >> >> source.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> However, I don't experience the same problem as you when I create a
>> >> >> new
>> >> >> document based on a template. Yes, I have to go into the mappings
>> >> >> again,
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> the ADDRESSBLOCK field is still set up to include the country. Are
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> sure
>> >> >> it is changing? (the option is stored as a \c 1 switch in the field
>> >> >> and I
>> >> >> don't see any reason that it would change)..
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Further, the mappings are independent of any individual field, so
>> >> >> once
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> have edited the first ADDRESSBLOCK field, the others should apply
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> mapping also. It's possible that when you are previewing the change
>> >> >> isn't
>> >> >> immediately apparent.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> i.e., I don't think you should need to propagate. But if I am wrong
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> do need to do that, you need to ensure that the document is set to
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> label type merge. If you unlinked the data source before saving the
>> >> >> doc/template, you probably turned it into "Not a merge document".
>> >> >> However,
>> >> >> if you enable the mail merge toolbar, use the first button to
>> >> >> seelect
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> label type merge, cancel out of the label dialog, then save the
>> >> >> document,
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> should be saved as a label type merge and the Propagate option
>> >> >> should
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> available.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Wish it was simpler. You can of course avoid ADDRESSBLOCK
>> >> >> altogether
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> use
>> >> >> individual merge fields nested within the necessary IF fields, and
>> >> >> avoid
>> >> >> mapping altogether.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Peter Jamieson
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Luvsql" <Luvsql[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:0C475303-4D2D-4380-8FF4-23125C2DAF60[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > We are using CRM and need to link certain fields in a mail merge,
>> >> >> > plus
>> >> >> > mark
>> >> >> > the option to always include the country field. I can do this on
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > new
>> >> >> > mail
>> >> >> > merge, then update all labels, however, I need to save these
>> >> >> > settings,
>> >> >> > so
>> >> >> > that the user printing the labels does not have to re-map the
>> >> >> > fields
>> >> >> > etc.
>> >> >> > As
>> >> >> > well, we wanted to save the specific label size and margin
>> >> >> > settings,
>> >> >> > so
>> >> >> > we
>> >> >> > need to save as a template.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > When we use the saved template, the field mappings are back to
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > default
>> >> >> > and the country is not marked. If I right-click on the first
>> >> >> > one, I
>> >> >> > can
>> >> >> > re-map and mark to print the country, however, it only applies to
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > first
>> >> >> > label and there is no update all labels. How do I apply this to
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > remaining hundred or so labels?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

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