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Hide white space
"Earl Kiosterud" <someone[ at ]nowhere.com> 11/14/2008 6:52:06 PM
My top margins disappeared, making it look like the paper is only 9" in height, not 11, in
print layout view. The margin was up against the top edge of the paper in the ruler at
left, and couldn't be dragged. I could find absolutely nothing in the menus or toolbars to
control this.

I finally discovered that clicking a double-up/down-arrow icon that appears when hovering at
the top edge of the paper in this view would restore the full page. Where the hell is this
in the menus??? It's a useful feature, but makes Word more of a "You gotta live there"
program, where the street signs are missing, but all the locals know the them, so who needs
them? Why is it so hard to find something like this when it's happened? What's the matter
with microsoft? (Rhetorical, of course).

--
Regards from Virginia Beach,

Earl Kiosterud
www.smokeylake.com
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Re: Hide white space
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill[ at ]mvps.org> 11/14/2008 8:04:59 PM
See http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/WhiteSpace.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Earl Kiosterud" <someone[ at ]nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:umr6GooRJHA.144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> My top margins disappeared, making it look like the paper is only 9" in
> height, not 11, in print layout view. The margin was up against the top
> edge of the paper in the ruler at left, and couldn't be dragged. I could
> find absolutely nothing in the menus or toolbars to control this.
>
> I finally discovered that clicking a double-up/down-arrow icon that
> appears when hovering at the top edge of the paper in this view would
> restore the full page. Where the hell is this in the menus??? It's a
> useful feature, but makes Word more of a "You gotta live there" program,
> where the street signs are missing, but all the locals know the them, so
> who needs them? Why is it so hard to find something like this when it's
> happened? What's the matter with microsoft? (Rhetorical, of course).
>
> --
> Regards from Virginia Beach,
>
> Earl Kiosterud
> www.smokeylake.com
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>


Re: Hide white space
"Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell[ at ]msn.com> 11/15/2008 12:13:21 AM
View.

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Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

"Earl Kiosterud" <someone[ at ]nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:umr6GooRJHA.144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> My top margins disappeared, making it look like the paper is only 9" in
> height, not 11, in print layout view. The margin was up against the top
> edge of the paper in the ruler at left, and couldn't be dragged. I could
> find absolutely nothing in the menus or toolbars to control this.
>
> I finally discovered that clicking a double-up/down-arrow icon that
> appears when hovering at the top edge of the paper in this view would
> restore the full page. Where the hell is this in the menus??? It's a
> useful feature, but makes Word more of a "You gotta live there" program,
> where the street signs are missing, but all the locals know the them, so
> who needs them? Why is it so hard to find something like this when it's
> happened? What's the matter with microsoft? (Rhetorical, of course).
>
> --
> Regards from Virginia Beach,
>
> Earl Kiosterud
> www.smokeylake.com
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>

Re: Hide white space
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill[ at ]mvps.org> 11/15/2008 1:44:23 AM
I see nothing about white space on the View menu. It's on the View tab of
Tools | Options, however.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
news:uCctMcrRJHA.5376[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> View.
>
> --
> Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP
>
> "Earl Kiosterud" <someone[ at ]nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:umr6GooRJHA.144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> My top margins disappeared, making it look like the paper is only 9" in
>> height, not 11, in print layout view. The margin was up against the top
>> edge of the paper in the ruler at left, and couldn't be dragged. I could
>> find absolutely nothing in the menus or toolbars to control this.
>>
>> I finally discovered that clicking a double-up/down-arrow icon that
>> appears when hovering at the top edge of the paper in this view would
>> restore the full page. Where the hell is this in the menus??? It's a
>> useful feature, but makes Word more of a "You gotta live there" program,
>> where the street signs are missing, but all the locals know the them, so
>> who needs them? Why is it so hard to find something like this when it's
>> happened? What's the matter with microsoft? (Rhetorical, of course).
>>
>> --
>> Regards from Virginia Beach,
>>
>> Earl Kiosterud
>> www.smokeylake.com
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>
>


Re: Hide white space
"Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell[ at ]msn.com> 11/15/2008 10:18:46 AM
I could have sworn that it was in the Show/Hide Group on the View Ribbon -
but as usual you are correct. It must be my perfect logic taking control of
me thinking that Show/Hide White Space would be included in the Show/Hide
Group: the group even has a space for the button that is currently wasted.
The more I use W2k7, the more disappointed I am. It just so far off target.

Terry

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill[ at ]mvps.org> wrote in message
news:erDefQsRJHA.5568[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
>I see nothing about white space on the View menu. It's on the View tab of
>Tools | Options, however.
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>
> "Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
> news:uCctMcrRJHA.5376[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> View.
>>
>> --
>> Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP
>>
>> "Earl Kiosterud" <someone[ at ]nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:umr6GooRJHA.144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> My top margins disappeared, making it look like the paper is only 9" in
>>> height, not 11, in print layout view. The margin was up against the top
>>> edge of the paper in the ruler at left, and couldn't be dragged. I
>>> could find absolutely nothing in the menus or toolbars to control this.
>>>
>>> I finally discovered that clicking a double-up/down-arrow icon that
>>> appears when hovering at the top edge of the paper in this view would
>>> restore the full page. Where the hell is this in the menus??? It's a
>>> useful feature, but makes Word more of a "You gotta live there" program,
>>> where the street signs are missing, but all the locals know the them, so
>>> who needs them? Why is it so hard to find something like this when
>>> it's happened? What's the matter with microsoft? (Rhetorical, of
>>> course).
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards from Virginia Beach,
>>>
>>> Earl Kiosterud
>>> www.smokeylake.com
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Hide white space
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill[ at ]mvps.org> 11/15/2008 3:35:42 PM
I was replying from the standpoint of Word 2003; the OP's reference to menus
and toolbars suggested he was not using Word 2007.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
news:ObsofuwRJHA.5860[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
>I could have sworn that it was in the Show/Hide Group on the View Ribbon -
>but as usual you are correct. It must be my perfect logic taking control of
>me thinking that Show/Hide White Space would be included in the Show/Hide
>Group: the group even has a space for the button that is currently wasted.
>The more I use W2k7, the more disappointed I am. It just so far off target.
>
> Terry
>
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill[ at ]mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:erDefQsRJHA.5568[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>I see nothing about white space on the View menu. It's on the View tab of
>>Tools | Options, however.
>>
>> --
>> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> Words into Type
>> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>
>> "Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:uCctMcrRJHA.5376[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> View.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP
>>>
>>> "Earl Kiosterud" <someone[ at ]nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:umr6GooRJHA.144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> My top margins disappeared, making it look like the paper is only 9" in
>>>> height, not 11, in print layout view. The margin was up against the
>>>> top edge of the paper in the ruler at left, and couldn't be dragged. I
>>>> could find absolutely nothing in the menus or toolbars to control this.
>>>>
>>>> I finally discovered that clicking a double-up/down-arrow icon that
>>>> appears when hovering at the top edge of the paper in this view would
>>>> restore the full page. Where the hell is this in the menus??? It's a
>>>> useful feature, but makes Word more of a "You gotta live there"
>>>> program, where the street signs are missing, but all the locals know
>>>> the them, so who needs them? Why is it so hard to find something like
>>>> this when it's happened? What's the matter with microsoft?
>>>> (Rhetorical, of course).
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards from Virginia Beach,
>>>>
>>>> Earl Kiosterud
>>>> www.smokeylake.com
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


Re: Hide white space
"Earl Kiosterud" <someone[ at ]nowhere.com> 11/20/2008 8:21:43 PM
Thanks, Suzanne. I'd hope something new like that would be where you could see it as you
worked, not buried in a big dialog box. Maybe a button on the status bar would have been
nice. Anyhoo, now I know.
--
Regards from Virginia Beach,

Earl Kiosterud
www.smokeylake.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill[ at ]mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23F51KSpRJHA.4772[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> See http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/WhiteSpace.htm
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>
> "Earl Kiosterud" <someone[ at ]nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:umr6GooRJHA.144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> My top margins disappeared, making it look like the paper is only 9" in height, not 11,
>> in print layout view. The margin was up against the top edge of the paper in the ruler
>> at left, and couldn't be dragged. I could find absolutely nothing in the menus or
>> toolbars to control this.
>>
>> I finally discovered that clicking a double-up/down-arrow icon that appears when hovering
>> at the top edge of the paper in this view would restore the full page. Where the hell is
>> this in the menus??? It's a useful feature, but makes Word more of a "You gotta live
>> there" program, where the street signs are missing, but all the locals know the them, so
>> who needs them? Why is it so hard to find something like this when it's happened?
>> What's the matter with microsoft? (Rhetorical, of course).
>>
>> --
>> Regards from Virginia Beach,
>>
>> Earl Kiosterud
>> www.smokeylake.com
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>
>


Re: Hide white space
"Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell[ at ]msn.com> 11/20/2008 11:18:41 PM
It's far from new though.

Terry

"Earl Kiosterud" <someone[ at ]nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:%23uh2b20SJHA.3468[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Thanks, Suzanne. I'd hope something new like that would be where you
> could see it as you worked, not buried in a big dialog box. Maybe a
> button on the status bar would have been nice. Anyhoo, now I know.
> --
> Regards from Virginia Beach,
>
> Earl Kiosterud
> www.smokeylake.com
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill[ at ]mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23F51KSpRJHA.4772[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> See http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/WhiteSpace.htm
>>
>> --
>> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> Words into Type
>> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>
>> "Earl Kiosterud" <someone[ at ]nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:umr6GooRJHA.144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> My top margins disappeared, making it look like the paper is only 9" in
>>> height, not 11, in print layout view. The margin was up against the top
>>> edge of the paper in the ruler at left, and couldn't be dragged. I
>>> could find absolutely nothing in the menus or toolbars to control this.
>>>
>>> I finally discovered that clicking a double-up/down-arrow icon that
>>> appears when hovering at the top edge of the paper in this view would
>>> restore the full page. Where the hell is this in the menus??? It's a
>>> useful feature, but makes Word more of a "You gotta live there" program,
>>> where the street signs are missing, but all the locals know the them, so
>>> who needs them? Why is it so hard to find something like this when
>>> it's happened? What's the matter with microsoft? (Rhetorical, of
>>> course).
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards from Virginia Beach,
>>>
>>> Earl Kiosterud
>>> www.smokeylake.com
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Hide white space
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill[ at ]mvps.org> 11/21/2008 4:58:34 AM
Well, you do get the ScreenTip when you mouse over the page break.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Earl Kiosterud" <someone[ at ]nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:%23uh2b20SJHA.3468[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Thanks, Suzanne. I'd hope something new like that would be where you
> could see it as you worked, not buried in a big dialog box. Maybe a
> button on the status bar would have been nice. Anyhoo, now I know.
> --
> Regards from Virginia Beach,
>
> Earl Kiosterud
> www.smokeylake.com
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill[ at ]mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23F51KSpRJHA.4772[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> See http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/WhiteSpace.htm
>>
>> --
>> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> Words into Type
>> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>
>> "Earl Kiosterud" <someone[ at ]nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:umr6GooRJHA.144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> My top margins disappeared, making it look like the paper is only 9" in
>>> height, not 11, in print layout view. The margin was up against the top
>>> edge of the paper in the ruler at left, and couldn't be dragged. I
>>> could find absolutely nothing in the menus or toolbars to control this.
>>>
>>> I finally discovered that clicking a double-up/down-arrow icon that
>>> appears when hovering at the top edge of the paper in this view would
>>> restore the full page. Where the hell is this in the menus??? It's a
>>> useful feature, but makes Word more of a "You gotta live there" program,
>>> where the street signs are missing, but all the locals know the them, so
>>> who needs them? Why is it so hard to find something like this when
>>> it's happened? What's the matter with microsoft? (Rhetorical, of
>>> course).
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards from Virginia Beach,
>>>
>>> Earl Kiosterud
>>> www.smokeylake.com
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>


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