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OneNote 14
moqpr 11/13/2008 3:42:10 PM
Hi,

Anybody know when OneNote 14 will be out please?

Will there be a beta version that we can get beforehand?

Please let me know.

Thanks

Mo
Re: OneNote 14
"minimus" <minimus[ at ]live.co.uk> 11/13/2008 3:51:15 PM
Through the end of 2009.


Re: OneNote 14
moqpr 11/13/2008 4:05:02 PM
Brilliant, Thanks Minimus, I can't wait for that!

"minimus" wrote:

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> Through the end of 2009.
>
>
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Re: OneNote 14
Steve Silverwood <kb6ojs[ at ]arrl.net> 11/14/2008 2:26:10 AM
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:42:10 -0800, moqpr
<moqpr[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>Hi,
>
>Anybody know when OneNote 14 will be out please?
>
>Will there be a beta version that we can get beforehand?
>
>Please let me know.

Microsoft's been saying "second half of 2009" but no bets. They're
working more and more on getting it right the first time, rather than
living by the old adage, "There's never enough time to do it right,
but there's always enough time to do it over."

Ashton-Tate tried to do it the old way with dBASE IV -- when was the
last time you heard of Ashton-Tate? :)

//Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Email: kb6ojs[ at ]arrl.net
Web: http://kb6ojs.com
Re: OneNote 14
"minimus" <minimus[ at ]live.co.uk> 11/16/2008 2:26:18 PM
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> "There's never enough time to do it right, but there's always enough time
> to do it over."

Alhtough this is a fact for many of the jobs is varying industries, at
microsoft this is a major problem I think.
There is no ms operating system which has been completed fully before a new
version arrived.

xp became reliable, but old.
vista becomes reliable but vista 7 comes...




Re: OneNote 14
"John Waller" <johnw[ at ]REMOVETHISpinnacleweb.com.au> 11/16/2008 8:42:54 PM
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>>>There is no ms operating system which has been completed fully before a
>>>new
version arrived.

You can apply the same argument to Linux and OSX.

--
Regards

John Waller

Re: OneNote 14
"minimus" <minimus[ at ]live.co.uk> 11/17/2008 5:02:07 PM
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> You can apply the same argument to Linux and OSX.

Can I?
Do linux users also complain about the os as the ms users do?


Re: OneNote 14
"Steve Thackery" <nobody[ at ]nowhere.com> 11/17/2008 5:28:40 PM
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> Do linux users also complain about the os as the ms users do?

No, of course not, but that's because they are in a tiny minority and prone
to being very defensive about their favourite OS. They like to pretend that
it's virtually perfect - admitting any weakness is a no-no.

Same story with Mac users. One thing you can be sure of: if Apple had the
dominant position in the market that Microsoft has, Mac OSX would be roundly
criticised exactly as Vista is criticised now.

SteveT

Re: OneNote 14
Ilya Koulchin <ikoulchine[ at ]hotmail.com> 11/17/2008 7:18:57 PM
This whole argument about various OS's "being complete" or favorites or
whatever is completely off-topic for this newsgroup. If you wish to
continue it, please do so in an appropriate newsgroup or via email.

Ilya
Re: OneNote 14
"minimus" <minimus[ at ]live.co.uk> 11/17/2008 7:41:46 PM
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> to being very defensive about their favourite OS. They like to pretend
> that it's virtually perfect - admitting any weakness is a no-no.

Thats also true.

> Same story with Mac users. One thing you can be sure of: if Apple had the
> dominant position in the market that Microsoft has, Mac OSX would be
> roundly criticised exactly as Vista is criticised now.

Maybe you are right. But it is hard to justify eother case.




Re: OneNote 14
"Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> 11/17/2008 8:05:26 PM
Steve Silverwood wrote:

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>> Anybody know when OneNote 14 will be out please?
>>
>> Will there be a beta version that we can get beforehand?
>>
>> Please let me know.
>
> Microsoft's been saying "second half of 2009" but no bets. They're
> working more and more on getting it right the first time, rather
> than living by the old adage, "There's never enough time to do it
> right, but there's always enough time to do it over."

Only too true!
Let's hope MS might not follow the old device to again deliver
"banana-soft"
(picked to early,
delivered green,
let it ripe at the clients')

> Ashton-Tate tried to do it the old way with dBASE IV -- when was the
> last time you heard of Ashton-Tate? :)

If we are dBASE: Not only Ashton-Tate. Borland followed their footsteps.
It was really bad with "dBASE for Windows 5.0" and even far worse than
that with VdB 7.0 where a new CEO pushed a product out of the house
which was anything but ready for usage :-( :-(

Rainald

Re: OneNote 14
"Steve Thackery" <nobody[ at ]nowhere.com> 11/17/2008 11:08:58 PM
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> This whole argument about various OS's "being complete" or favorites or
> whatever is completely off-topic for this newsgroup. If you wish to
> continue it, please do so in an appropriate newsgroup or via email.

So you're a moderator now, are you?

SteveT
Re: OneNote 14
"Erik Sojka (MVP)" <esojka[ at ]ms-onenote.net.nospam> 11/18/2008 12:33:30 PM
The group is self moderated. Ilya is correct that an OS flamewar is off
topic.

"Steve Thackery" <nobody[ at ]nowhere.com> wrote in
news:#ZNy9lQSJHA.3584[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:

[Quoted Text]
>> This whole argument about various OS's "being complete" or favorites or
>> whatever is completely off-topic for this newsgroup. If you wish to
>> continue it, please do so in an appropriate newsgroup or via email.
>
> So you're a moderator now, are you?
>
> SteveT

Re: OneNote 14
"Steve Thackery" <nobody[ at ]nowhere.com> 11/18/2008 6:31:47 PM
[Quoted Text]
> The group is self moderated. Ilya is correct that an OS flamewar is off
> topic.

Actually, I quite agree.

SteveT
Re: OneNote 14
"Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de> 11/18/2008 9:44:40 PM
Steve Thackery schrieb:

[Quoted Text]
>> The group is self moderated. Ilya is correct that an OS flamewar
>> is off topic.
>
> Actually, I quite agree.

Mee too.

Rainald
Re: OneNote 14
alternative 11/21/2008 10:04:02 AM
Yes, but unfortunatly for all Microsoft people, every Microsoft product comes
with around 15 years of OS and in my case some years less Office experience.
You cannot shake this. All the Vista lets say stir up doesn't help OneNote.
And it comes down to money or time. Linux software doesn't cost money, but
time. Microsoft wants money, I am relucant to give time. And a real
difference is, in Linux, if I don't find news of a software in blogs for
about a year I take it that it is dying, but I do not find a lot of recent
stuff in the OneNote blogs, which actually makes the Linux user in me squirm,
and I ask myself why ? I happily use everything that gets the job done, but
I see the difference in culture and sometimes a little more Linux (small
incremental steps, but never loose momentum) in MS wouldn't be a bad thing.
Linux could use some changes too, but that would be off-topic.
By the way, why is information on the net about the OneNote API so scarce
and mostly over a year old? Also a thing that the Linux user in me doesn't
understand.
To go to the topic again, good to know that no blogpostings doesn't mean
that, if I buy OneNote now (I am on trial), it will be obsolete in the next
month. And MS will not drop the software, hurray ! Hopefully they will keep
the API too.

"Rainald Taesler" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Steve Thackery schrieb:
>
> >> The group is self moderated. Ilya is correct that an OS flamewar
> >> is off topic.
> >
> > Actually, I quite agree.
>
> Mee too.
>
> Rainald
>

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