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I have BCM v2 and am trying to export a CSV file for import into Entourage. It does not seem to be exporting my business history. Can anyone help? Thank you I don't know why this doesn't seem to be posting to the forum, but I have tried twice and do not see my post in the thread list.
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On Jun 6, 7:10 pm, RV <R...[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text] > I have BCM v2 and am trying to export a CSV file for import into Entourage. > It does not seem to be exporting my business history. Can anyone help? > Thank you > I don't know why this doesn't seem to be posting to the forum, but I have > tried twice and do not see my post in the thread list.
BCM only exports contacts to CSV.
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How then would one export business history? Is there a workaround to get htis done? The contacts alone aren't very useful if I don't have the notes for when I've talked to people. Open to suggestions. THnaks
"Luther" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > On Jun 6, 7:10 pm, RV <R...[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > I have BCM v2 and am trying to export a CSV file for import into Entourage. > > It does not seem to be exporting my business history. Can anyone help? > > Thank you > > I don't know why this doesn't seem to be posting to the forum, but I have > > tried twice and do not see my post in the thread list. > > BCM only exports contacts to CSV. > >
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it seems absurd that a contact manager would not make provisions for exprrting contact history! Especially between Microsoft products. There must be a way.
"Luther" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > On Jun 6, 7:10 pm, RV <R...[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > I have BCM v2 and am trying to export a CSV file for import into Entourage. > > It does not seem to be exporting my business history. Can anyone help? > > Thank you > > I don't know why this doesn't seem to be posting to the forum, but I have > > tried twice and do not see my post in the thread list. > > BCM only exports contacts to CSV. > >
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Who would ever want to EXPORT anything out of BCM anyway? Such an all powerful, fully featured, comprehensive app as this is just not necessary!
Once you're into BCM, you are trapped baby!
Resistance to MS is futile!
:-)
-THP
RV wrote:
[Quoted Text] >it seems absurd that a contact manager would not make provisions for >exprrting contact history! Especially between Microsoft products. There >must be a way. > >> > I have BCM v2 and am trying to export a CSV file for import into Entourage. >> > It does not seem to be exporting my business history. Can anyone help? >[quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >> BCM only exports contacts to CSV.
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Really... Yes I habe to say Entourage, even with its limitations, is awesome. So is there no way to export the busienss history then? I find that hard to believe.
"mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Who would ever want to EXPORT anything out of BCM anyway? Such an all > powerful, fully featured, comprehensive app as this is just not necessary! > > Once you're into BCM, you are trapped baby! > > Resistance to MS is futile! > > :-) > > -THP > > > RV wrote: > >it seems absurd that a contact manager would not make provisions for > >exprrting contact history! Especially between Microsoft products. There > >must be a way. > > > >> > I have BCM v2 and am trying to export a CSV file for import into Entourage. > >> > It does not seem to be exporting my business history. Can anyone help? > >[quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >> > >> BCM only exports contacts to CSV. > > -- > Message posted via http://www.officekb.com> >
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"mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Who would ever want to EXPORT anything out of BCM anyway? Such an all > powerful, fully featured, comprehensive app as this is just not necessary! > > Once you're into BCM, you are trapped baby! > > Resistance to MS is futile! > > :-) > > -THP > > > RV wrote: > >it seems absurd that a contact manager would not make provisions for > >exprrting contact history! Especially between Microsoft products. There > >must be a way. > > > >> > I have BCM v2 and am trying to export a CSV file for import into Entourage. > >> > It does not seem to be exporting my business history. Can anyone help? > >[quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >> > >> BCM only exports contacts to CSV. > > -- > Message posted via http://www.officekb.com> >
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BCM's design is really intended as a MS "Baby-bottle" strategy to engage and pacify smaller CRM users onto the MS Outlook platform with hopes that they will migrate up eventually into the full CRM Dynamics app. The only smooth migration path I have ever heard of OUT of BCM seems to be onto MS CRM.
-THP
RV wrote:
[Quoted Text] >> Who would ever want to EXPORT anything out of BCM anyway? Such an all >> powerful, fully featured, comprehensive app as this is just not necessary! >[quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> >> >> >> BCM only exports contacts to CSV.
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RV,
Isn't Entourage just a differently named version of native Outlook for the MAC OS-MS 2004 Office Suite? How does it differ from vanilla, stand alone Outlook on a PC?
-THP
mrtimpeterson wrote:
[Quoted Text] >BCM's design is really intended as a MS "Baby-bottle" strategy to engage and >pacify smaller CRM users onto the MS Outlook platform with hopes that they >will migrate up eventually into the full CRM Dynamics app. The only smooth >migration path I have ever heard of OUT of BCM seems to be onto MS CRM. > >-THP > > > >>> Who would ever want to EXPORT anything out of BCM anyway? Such an all >>> powerful, fully featured, comprehensive app as this is just not necessary! >>[quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >>> >> >>> >> BCM only exports contacts to CSV.
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OK, not to beat a dead horse here - so please clear this up - there is absolutely no way to transfer my contact history from BCM? No workarounds, no exports, I"m just screwed?
Somehow I'm not surprised as I was very disappointed with how difficult BCM was to work with.
As for Entourage, funny, I was reading about Entourage's beginnings just yesterday. http://blog.entourage.mvps.org/2007/05/in_the_beginning.html#more
i really prefer Entourage over Outlook and especially BCM, even though it is much, much more limited and is also set up more as a project center and email application, rather than as a CRM. I was able to modify it for what I needed - to create a project I called "calls" and then to view contacts in that in a viiew that passes for a phone log, and to set categories for follow-up and link items to create a phone log similar to the contact history in BCM.. But I wish it had more of the functionality of Outlook. It lacks a lot of basic things such as being able to drag your tasks into order, nest your folders or projects, etc. It does have a bit of customizability that if you are creative, you can come up with workarounds. But even with its limitations it kind of grows on your and I find that I prefer it even over similar apps that would do more, such as Daylite (which also seems pretty cool).
What I love about Entourage over Outlook/BCM is its simplicity and intuitiveneness. The interface is much more colorful and pleasant and -dare I say it - fun. In the project center, you can manage projects although it's only a baby step project manager - hopefully they will integrate more functionality into future versions.
I had a hard time getting it together with Outlook and BCM to follow up with customers and manage my call lists. I would get lost and it just never felt intuitive or very real-world. I would end up cursing it in frustration and not being very productive. Entourage has a long way to go, as it's a relatively new application, but the foundation is much more suited to the way I operate - I want it simple, fast, iintuitive and it never hurts if it's fun and colorful and pretty on top of that. I'm working with a lot of complicated production and graphics software and just don't have the patience to fight with my contaact manager too.
Chalk it up to the graphics person in me but it's true what they say - once you go Mac, you never go back.
EDIT -- can I just say I'm gettting a lot of problems posting here. Looks like all the test posts yesterday eventually posted, though. I try to post and the window goes balnk, goes nowhere.
"mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > RV, > > Isn't Entourage just a differently named version of native Outlook for the > MAC OS-MS 2004 Office Suite? How does it differ from vanilla, stand alone > Outlook on a PC? >
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I should add also that I was referring to BCM in Office 2003. Perhaps it has improved in the 2007 version.
"mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > RV, > > Isn't Entourage just a differently named version of native Outlook for the > MAC OS-MS 2004 Office Suite? How does it differ from vanilla, stand alone > Outlook on a PC? > > -THP > > mrtimpeterson wrote: > >BCM's design is really intended as a MS "Baby-bottle" strategy to engage and > >pacify smaller CRM users onto the MS Outlook platform with hopes that they > >will migrate up eventually into the full CRM Dynamics app. The only smooth > >migration path I have ever heard of OUT of BCM seems to be onto MS CRM. > > > >-THP > > > > > > > >>> Who would ever want to EXPORT anything out of BCM anyway? Such an all > >>> powerful, fully featured, comprehensive app as this is just not necessary! > >>[quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >>> >> > >>> >> BCM only exports contacts to CSV. > > -- > Message posted via http://www.officekb.com> >
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One of the main features is the project center - here is an article with pictures that should give you a sense of waht Entourage is like.
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/entourage2004/using.aspx?pid=usingentourage2004&type=howto&article=/mac/library/how_to_articles/office2004/en_projectcenter.xml
"mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > RV, > > Isn't Entourage just a differently named version of native Outlook for the > MAC OS-MS 2004 Office Suite? How does it differ from vanilla, stand alone > Outlook on a PC? > > -THP > > mrtimpeterson wrote: > >BCM's design is really intended as a MS "Baby-bottle" strategy to engage and > >pacify smaller CRM users onto the MS Outlook platform with hopes that they > >will migrate up eventually into the full CRM Dynamics app. The only smooth > >migration path I have ever heard of OUT of BCM seems to be onto MS CRM. > > > >-THP > > > > > > > >>> Who would ever want to EXPORT anything out of BCM anyway? Such an all > >>> powerful, fully featured, comprehensive app as this is just not necessary! > >>[quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >>> >> > >>> >> BCM only exports contacts to CSV. > > -- > Message posted via http://www.officekb.com> >
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I see that in Entourage you have the option to import from Outlook Express. Can I export from BCM to Outlook Express, and have it save my contact history? maybe that's a way. Also, can I export a pst file from BCM and will it save my contact history? There is an add-in that allows Entourage to import pst files.
"mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > BCM's design is really intended as a MS "Baby-bottle" strategy to engage and > pacify smaller CRM users onto the MS Outlook platform with hopes that they > will migrate up eventually into the full CRM Dynamics app. The only smooth > migration path I have ever heard of OUT of BCM seems to be onto MS CRM. > > -THP > > > > RV wrote: > >> Who would ever want to EXPORT anything out of BCM anyway? Such an all > >> powerful, fully featured, comprehensive app as this is just not necessary! > >[quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >> >> > >> >> BCM only exports contacts to CSV. > > -- > Message posted via OfficeKB.com > http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/outlook-bcm/200706/1> >
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On Jun 7, 8:52 pm, RV <R...[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text] > I see that in Entourage you have the option to import from Outlook Express. > Can I export from BCM to Outlook Express, and have it save my contact > history? maybe that's a way. Also, can I export a pst file from BCM and > will it save my contact history? There is an add-in that allows Entourage to > import pst files. > > > > "mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com" wrote: > > BCM's design is really intended as a MS "Baby-bottle" strategy to engage and > > pacify smaller CRM users onto the MS Outlook platform with hopes that they > > will migrate up eventually into the full CRM Dynamics app. The only smooth > > migration path I have ever heard of OUT of BCM seems to be onto MS CRM. > > > -THP > > > RV wrote: > > >> Who would ever want to EXPORT anything out of BCM anyway? Such an all > > >> powerful, fully featured, comprehensive app as this is just not necessary! > > >[quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > > >> >> BCM only exports contacts to CSV. > > > -- > > Message posted via OfficeKB.com > > http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/outlook-bcm/200706/1- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - You can export all your BCM data to XML using the "BCM data (.bcm)" option.
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