Displaying portrait mode on a projector eof 3/6/2007 3:52:00 PM I have a faculty member who uses OneNote to write and display his notes during class. He would prefer to use portrait mode to do this, but we can't figure out how to get that mode to display correctly on a projector. He's using an IBM Thinkpad Tablet Any ideas would be appreciated. B.

Re: Displaying portrait mode on a projector Grant Robertson <BOGUS[ at ]BOGUS.com> 3/7/2007 11:29:15 PM In article <B788490D-FC43-4CAF-8A59-1C1C1B5205C4[ at ]microsoft.com>, eof[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com says... [Quoted Text] > I have a faculty member who uses OneNote to write and display his notes > during class. He would prefer to use portrait mode to do this, but we can't > figure out how to get that mode to display correctly on a projector. He's > using an IBM Thinkpad Tablet When you change to portrait mode on the Tablet PC, what do you have to do with the Tablet PC? Right, you have to physically turn it 90 degrees. What do you think you are going to have to do with the projector?

Re: Displaying portrait mode on a projector "Thurman" <thurman[ at ]bigplanet.com> 3/8/2007 12:31:27 PM "Grant Robertson" <BOGUS[ at ]BOGUS.com> wrote in message news:%23SaprBRYHHA.1220[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > In article <B788490D-FC43-4CAF-8A59-1C1C1B5205C4[ at ]microsoft.com>, > eof[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com says... >> I have a faculty member who uses OneNote to write and display his notes >> during class. He would prefer to use portrait mode to do this, but we >> can't >> figure out how to get that mode to display correctly on a projector. He's >> using an IBM Thinkpad Tablet > > When you change to portrait mode on the Tablet PC, what do you have to do > with the Tablet PC? Right, you have to physically turn it 90 degrees. > What do you think you are going to have to do with the projector? Are you suggesting he physically turn a projector on it's side? Every projector I used was designed for max air flow to ventilate the extraordinary amount of heat they generate. I don't remember ever seeing a projector built to be rotated in place. That sounds like a good way to brick the unit.

Re: Displaying portrait mode on a projector Grant Robertson <BOGUS[ at ]BOGUS.com> 3/8/2007 4:22:35 PM In article <_ATHh.180$zr5.66[ at ]newsfe06.lga>, thurman[ at ]bigplanet.com says... [Quoted Text] > Are you suggesting he physically turn a projector on it's side? > > Every projector I used was designed for max air flow to ventilate the > extraordinary amount of heat they generate. I don't remember ever seeing a > projector built to be rotated in place. That sounds like a good way to brick > the unit. I'm saying that is the only way he is going to get a "portrait mode" out of a projector. Just like a screen, a projector has a physical array of liquid crystals. You can't just electronically tell a projector to change the physical arrangement of those crystals. There just might be some really high end models of projectors that do one of the following: * Mechanically rotate the array on command. * Use a square array of the maximum size needed then only use the band of pixels in the middle needed to display the desired ratio. * Optically rotate the display using mirrors in the projector. I seriously doubt a single manufacturer spends the money to put into a product these extra features that will almost never be used. If you want to rotate the projector it is possible to do so without blocking the vents, though it may take a bit of ingenuity. The air is pushed through by a fan so gravity will not affect the cooling efficiency. Most of the projectors at my university are mounted hanging upside-down from the ceiling so you can see and reach the buttons. Some projectors even have a plate in the bottom for bolting onto a plate which has been welded onto the end of a pipe or other mounting apparatus. If that mounting apparatus were hinged then the projector could easily be rotated 90 degrees simply by swinging the apparatus on its hinge. There are 1001 different ways this could be achieved. However, unless the original poster has lots of time or political pull I doubt anyone would be willing to do any of them. What I recommend is that the original poster simply accept the fact that there are limits to what one can do in the real world and stop trying to project a Tablet PC screen in portrait mode. Just put the thing back into standard landscape mode and write on it that way when he is projecting onto a screen.

Re: Displaying portrait mode on a projector xTenn <xTennREMOVETHISPART[ at ]tds.net> 3/8/2007 4:52:36 PM eof wrote: [Quoted Text] > I have a faculty member who uses OneNote to write and display his notes > during class. He would prefer to use portrait mode to do this, but we can't > figure out how to get that mode to display correctly on a projector. He's > using an IBM Thinkpad Tablet > > Any ideas would be appreciated. > > B. You try to use something like switchResX to set up a portrait display mode that is projector friendly. However, the reduced pixels may be more than annoying, and if your projector trys to rescan it may be unreadable. http://www.madrau.com/html/SRX/About.html But there is good news too - NEC makes projectors that are designed to be tablet PC friendly in portrait mode. Google for NEC NT170, for example (great looking little projector).

Re: Displaying portrait mode on a projector eof 3/16/2007 7:08:03 PM Thanks for all of your thoughts. Physically turning the projector is an interesting idea, but mine are also ceiling mounted and immobile. You did give me another idea. Part of the problem with writing in Landscape mode is that your palm rests on or near the tablet's buttons causing inadvertant button presses. The Epson allows me to flip the projected image 180 degrees, and the tablet allows the Prof. to turn the image 360 degrees so a combination of the Prof. flipping the tablet image and me flipping the projected image allows him to write in landscape without bumping into buttons. It's a step in the right direction. In the meantime I'll wait a few years for NEC and the rest of the manufacturers to come up with a "vertical letterbox" projection to handle the tablet's portrait mode. B. "Grant Robertson" wrote: [Quoted Text] > In article <_ATHh.180$zr5.66[ at ]newsfe06.lga>, thurman[ at ]bigplanet.com says... > > Are you suggesting he physically turn a projector on it's side? > > > > Every projector I used was designed for max air flow to ventilate the > > extraordinary amount of heat they generate. I don't remember ever seeing a > > projector built to be rotated in place. That sounds like a good way to brick > > the unit. > > I'm saying that is the only way he is going to get a "portrait mode" out > of a projector. Just like a screen, a projector has a physical array of > liquid crystals. You can't just electronically tell a projector to change > the physical arrangement of those crystals. There just might be some > really high end models of projectors that do one of the following: > > * Mechanically rotate the array on command. > * Use a square array of the maximum size needed then only use the band of > pixels in the middle needed to display the desired ratio. > * Optically rotate the display using mirrors in the projector. > > I seriously doubt a single manufacturer spends the money to put into a > product these extra features that will almost never be used. > > If you want to rotate the projector it is possible to do so without > blocking the vents, though it may take a bit of ingenuity. The air is > pushed through by a fan so gravity will not affect the cooling > efficiency. Most of the projectors at my university are mounted hanging > upside-down from the ceiling so you can see and reach the buttons. Some > projectors even have a plate in the bottom for bolting onto a plate which > has been welded onto the end of a pipe or other mounting apparatus. If > that mounting apparatus were hinged then the projector could easily be > rotated 90 degrees simply by swinging the apparatus on its hinge. > > There are 1001 different ways this could be achieved. However, unless the > original poster has lots of time or political pull I doubt anyone would > be willing to do any of them. > > What I recommend is that the original poster simply accept the fact that > there are limits to what one can do in the real world and stop trying to > project a Tablet PC screen in portrait mode. Just put the thing back into > standard landscape mode and write on it that way when he is projecting > onto a screen. >