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I teach math in a small private school. All my students have tablets, and I
do all my lectures as live sharing sessions, so each student can contribute
if invited and will have a copy of the notes afterwards.
Unfortunately, when I start a new live sharing session each day it creates a
new copy on each student's PC when they join. Is there any way to restart a
session so it can be rejoined?
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Are you using OneNote 2007? If so, a Shared Notebook is better suited for
this. Do you have a common network storage area where you and the students
could store and collaborate on a Shared Notebook?
=?Utf-8?B?R2FyeSBMaW5kbmVy?= <GaryLindner[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote in news:F71FE115-A068-4E0E-B032-35DBFB6F206D[ at ]microsoft.com:
[Quoted Text] > I teach math in a small private school. All my students have tablets,
> and I do all my lectures as live sharing sessions, so each student can
> contribute if invited and will have a copy of the notes afterwards.
>
> Unfortunately, when I start a new live sharing session each day it
> creates a new copy on each student's PC when they join. Is there any
> way to restart a session so it can be rejoined?
>
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Erik, Thanks for your response. Yes, I'm using OneNote 2007.
If I use a shared notebook, will the users see the updates immediately?
Also, I lose control over who and when updates what, and students will not
have a copy on their own PC to refer to when not connected to the network.
Am I correct?
Gary Lindner
"Erik Sojka (MVP)" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Are you using OneNote 2007? If so, a Shared Notebook is better suited for
> this. Do you have a common network storage area where you and the students
> could store and collaborate on a Shared Notebook?
>
> =?Utf-8?B?R2FyeSBMaW5kbmVy?= <GaryLindner[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote in news:F71FE115-A068-4E0E-B032-35DBFB6F206D[ at ]microsoft.com:
>
> > I teach math in a small private school. All my students have tablets,
> > and I do all my lectures as live sharing sessions, so each student can
> > contribute if invited and will have a copy of the notes afterwards.
> >
> > Unfortunately, when I start a new live sharing session each day it
> > creates a new copy on each student's PC when they join. Is there any
> > way to restart a session so it can be rejoined?
> >
>
>
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Gary Lindner wrote:
[Quoted Text] >>> I teach math in a small private school. All my students have
>>> tablets, and I do all my lectures as live sharing sessions, so
>>> each student can contribute if invited and will have a copy of
>>> the notes afterwards.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, when I start a new live sharing session each day it
>>> creates a new copy on each student's PC when they join. Is there
>>> any way to restart a session so it can be rejoined?
>>
>> Are you using OneNote 2007? If so, a Shared Notebook is better
>> suited for this. Do you have a common network storage area where
>> you and the students could store and collaborate on a Shared
>> Notebook?
<
> Erik, Thanks for your response. Yes, I'm using OneNote 2007.
> If I use a shared notebook, will the users see the updates
> immediately?
Yes, changes are synched in a few seconds.
> Also, I lose control over who and when updates what,
ON shows who's last changed an object.
> and students will not have a copy on their own PC to refer to when
> not connected to the network. Am I correct?
No, fortunately you are not correct :-)
The playground of ON is the *cache*. All changes are saved there and
then synched when (as long as) the laptops are connected.
So everything is on the laptop when the machines are disconnected and
work can be done just the normal way. When the laptops will be
re-connected the changes will be synched.
Rainald
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Thanks Rainald. I'll give it a try. Gary
"Rainald Taesler" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Gary Lindner wrote:
>
> >>> I teach math in a small private school. All my students have
> >>> tablets, and I do all my lectures as live sharing sessions, so
> >>> each student can contribute if invited and will have a copy of
> >>> the notes afterwards.
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately, when I start a new live sharing session each day it
> >>> creates a new copy on each student's PC when they join. Is there
> >>> any way to restart a session so it can be rejoined?
> >>
> >> Are you using OneNote 2007? If so, a Shared Notebook is better
> >> suited for this. Do you have a common network storage area where
> >> you and the students could store and collaborate on a Shared
> >> Notebook?
> <
> > Erik, Thanks for your response. Yes, I'm using OneNote 2007.
> > If I use a shared notebook, will the users see the updates
> > immediately?
>
> Yes, changes are synched in a few seconds.
>
> > Also, I lose control over who and when updates what,
>
> ON shows who's last changed an object.
>
> > and students will not have a copy on their own PC to refer to when
> > not connected to the network. Am I correct?
>
> No, fortunately you are not correct :-)
> The playground of ON is the *cache*. All changes are saved there and
> then synched when (as long as) the laptops are connected.
> So everything is on the laptop when the machines are disconnected and
> work can be done just the normal way. When the laptops will be
> re-connected the changes will be synched.
>
> Rainald
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Gary Lindner wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Thanks Rainald. I'll give it a try. Gary
Thanks for the reply.
It would be nice if you might let us know if it works the way you need
it.
Rainald
>
> "Rainald Taesler" wrote:
>
>> Gary Lindner wrote:
>>
>>>>> I teach math in a small private school. All my students have
>>>>> tablets, and I do all my lectures as live sharing sessions, so
>>>>> each student can contribute if invited and will have a copy of
>>>>> the notes afterwards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, when I start a new live sharing session each day
>>>>> it creates a new copy on each student's PC when they join. Is
>>>>> there any way to restart a session so it can be rejoined?
>>>>
>>>> Are you using OneNote 2007? If so, a Shared Notebook is better
>>>> suited for this. Do you have a common network storage area where
>>>> you and the students could store and collaborate on a Shared
>>>> Notebook?
>> <
>>> Erik, Thanks for your response. Yes, I'm using OneNote 2007.
>>> If I use a shared notebook, will the users see the updates
>>> immediately?
>>
>> Yes, changes are synched in a few seconds.
>>
>>> Also, I lose control over who and when updates what,
>>
>> ON shows who's last changed an object.
>>
>>> and students will not have a copy on their own PC to refer to when
>>> not connected to the network. Am I correct?
>>
>> No, fortunately you are not correct :-)
>> The playground of ON is the *cache*. All changes are saved there
>> and then synched when (as long as) the laptops are connected.
>> So everything is on the laptop when the machines are disconnected
>> and work can be done just the normal way. When the laptops will be
>> re-connected the changes will be synched.
>>
>> Rainald
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Rainald,
I tried it yesterday with one of my classes and after 5 minutes they said it
was not working for them. The updates are not fast enough to follow along
while I write on the page, doing math calculations. I also do not know who
is connected. The live sharing sessions show who is connected.
So I'm back to using live sharing sessions. Now, any help with my original
question?
Gary Lindner
"Rainald Taesler" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Gary Lindner wrote:
>
> > Thanks Rainald. I'll give it a try. Gary
>
> Thanks for the reply.
> It would be nice if you might let us know if it works the way you need
> it.
>
> Rainald
>
> >
> > "Rainald Taesler" wrote:
> >
> >> Gary Lindner wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> I teach math in a small private school. All my students have
> >>>>> tablets, and I do all my lectures as live sharing sessions, so
> >>>>> each student can contribute if invited and will have a copy of
> >>>>> the notes afterwards.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Unfortunately, when I start a new live sharing session each day
> >>>>> it creates a new copy on each student's PC when they join. Is
> >>>>> there any way to restart a session so it can be rejoined?
> >>>>
> >>>> Are you using OneNote 2007? If so, a Shared Notebook is better
> >>>> suited for this. Do you have a common network storage area where
> >>>> you and the students could store and collaborate on a Shared
> >>>> Notebook?
> >> <
> >>> Erik, Thanks for your response. Yes, I'm using OneNote 2007.
> >>> If I use a shared notebook, will the users see the updates
> >>> immediately?
> >>
> >> Yes, changes are synched in a few seconds.
> >>
> >>> Also, I lose control over who and when updates what,
> >>
> >> ON shows who's last changed an object.
> >>
> >>> and students will not have a copy on their own PC to refer to when
> >>> not connected to the network. Am I correct?
> >>
> >> No, fortunately you are not correct :-)
> >> The playground of ON is the *cache*. All changes are saved there
> >> and then synched when (as long as) the laptops are connected.
> >> So everything is on the laptop when the machines are disconnected
> >> and work can be done just the normal way. When the laptops will be
> >> re-connected the changes will be synched.
> >>
> >> Rainald
>
>
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Gary Lindner schrieb:
[Quoted Text] >>>>>>> I teach math in a small private school. All my students have
>>>>>>> tablets, and I do all my lectures as live sharing sessions, so
>>>>>>> each student can contribute if invited and will have a copy of
>>>>>>> the notes afterwards.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, when I start a new live sharing session each
>>>>>>> day it creates a new copy on each student's PC when they
>>>>>>> join. Is there any way to restart a session so it can be
>>>>>>> rejoined?
[Eril Sojka]
>>>>>> Are you using OneNote 2007? If so, a Shared Notebook is better
>>>>>> suited for this. Do you have a common network storage area
>>>>>> where you and the students could store and collaborate on a
>>>>>> Shared Notebook?
[Gary]
>>>>> Erik, Thanks for your response. Yes, I'm using OneNote 2007.
>>>>> If I use a shared notebook, will the users see the updates
>>>>> immediately?
[Rainald]
>>>> Yes, changes are synched in a few seconds.
>>>>
>>>>> Also, I lose control over who and when updates what,
>>>>
>>>> ON shows who's last changed an object.
>>>>
>>>>> and students will not have a copy on their own PC to refer to
>>>>> when not connected to the network. Am I correct?
>>>>
>>>> No, fortunately you are not correct :-)
>>>> The playground of ON is the *cache*. All changes are saved there
>>>> and then synched when (as long as) the laptops are connected.
>>>> So everything is on the laptop when the machines are disconnected
>>>> and work can be done just the normal way. When the laptops will
>>>> be re-connected the changes will be synched.
[Gary]
>>> Thanks Rainald. I'll give it a try. Gary
[Rainald]
>> Thanks for the reply.
>> It would be nice if you might let us know if it works the way you
>> need it.
[Gary]
> I tried it yesterday with one of my classes and after 5 minutes
> they said it was not working for them. The updates are not fast
> enough to follow along while I write on the page, doing math
> calculations.
Could be. Normally it's just seconds needed for synching.
It will require that an action is completed, however.
> I also do not know who is connected. The live
> sharing sessions show who is connected.
Yes, this could be an obstacle.
> So I'm back to using live sharing sessions. Now, any help with my
> original question?
Unfortunately not from my side.
So far I never worked with live sharing sessions {siiiiigh}.
Rainald
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Gary Lindner wrote:
[Quoted Text] > I tried it yesterday with one of my classes and after 5 minutes they said it
> was not working for them. The updates are not fast enough to follow along
> while I write on the page, doing math calculations. I also do not know who
> is connected. The live sharing sessions show who is connected.
> So I'm back to using live sharing sessions. Now, any help with my original
> question?
How are you having the students rejoin the session? Are they rejoining
the session by using the taskpane, or by using the infobar at the top of
the section from the previous session?
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:35:28 +0100, "Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de>
wrote:
[Quoted Text] >No, fortunately you are not correct :-)
>The playground of ON is the *cache*. All changes are saved there and
>then synched when (as long as) the laptops are connected.
>So everything is on the laptop when the machines are disconnected and
>work can be done just the normal way. When the laptops will be
>re-connected the changes will be synched.
Here's one I am still trying to work out. Haven't had a suitable test
setup to try it, unfortunately: If you have a shared notebook, and two
users have offline copies of it, both of whom make changes to the same
page of the notebook, how does OneNote handle synchronizing the
changes?
//Steve//
Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Email: kb6ojs[ at ]arrl.net
Web: http://kb6ojs.com
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Steve Silverwood wrote:
[Quoted Text] >> No, fortunately you are not correct :-)
>> The playground of ON is the *cache*. All changes are saved there
>> and then synched when (as long as) the laptops are connected.
>> So everything is on the laptop when the machines are disconnected
>> and work can be done just the normal way. When the laptops will be
>> re-connected the changes will be synched.
>
> Here's one I am still trying to work out. Haven't had a suitable
> test setup to try it, unfortunately: If you have a shared notebook,
> and two users have offline copies of it,
What do you mean by "offline copies"??
For enabling the synching notebooks never should be sitting elsewhere
but on the "main computer" (someway being a host). There are no "copies"
on other computers, just their *cache*.
> both of whom make changes
> to the same page of the notebook, how does OneNote handle
> synchronizing the changes?
ON does handle this pretty well. Synching of shared notebooks does not
happen on a "per page" basis but "per object".
I've done quite some testing. And quite often it happens that I work on
my TabletPC on the road and on my desktop PC when being at home. And I
do not immediately connect the two when coming home, sometimes a day
later with quite some work be done on the desktop PC. Never had a
problem in so far.
Rainald
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:27:05 +0100, "Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de>
wrote:
[Quoted Text] >Steve Silverwood wrote:
>
>>> No, fortunately you are not correct :-)
>>> The playground of ON is the *cache*. All changes are saved there
>>> and then synched when (as long as) the laptops are connected.
>>> So everything is on the laptop when the machines are disconnected
>>> and work can be done just the normal way. When the laptops will be
>>> re-connected the changes will be synched.
>>
>> Here's one I am still trying to work out. Haven't had a suitable
>> test setup to try it, unfortunately: If you have a shared notebook,
>> and two users have offline copies of it,
>
>What do you mean by "offline copies"??
Meaning they are now disconnected from the network and off at
Starbucks, or flying somewhere, or at home. They are not working on
the actual copy that's on the network.
>For enabling the synching notebooks never should be sitting elsewhere
>but on the "main computer" (someway being a host). There are no "copies"
>on other computers, just their *cache*.
>
>> both of whom make changes
>> to the same page of the notebook, how does OneNote handle
>> synchronizing the changes?
>
>ON does handle this pretty well. Synching of shared notebooks does not
>happen on a "per page" basis but "per object".
>I've done quite some testing. And quite often it happens that I work on
>my TabletPC on the road and on my desktop PC when being at home. And I
>do not immediately connect the two when coming home, sometimes a day
>later with quite some work be done on the desktop PC. Never had a
>problem in so far.
Thanks.
//Steve//
Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Email: kb6ojs[ at ]arrl.net
Web: http://kb6ojs.com
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Steve Silverwood wrote:
[Quoted Text] >> What do you mean by "offline copies"??
>
> Meaning they are now disconnected from the network and off at
> Starbucks, or flying somewhere, or at home. They are not working on
> the actual copy that's on the network.
OK, now I see. It's just what is held in ON's cache.
>>> both of whom make changes
>>> to the same page of the notebook, how does OneNote handle
>>> synchronizing the changes?
>>
>> ON does handle this pretty well. Synching of shared notebooks does
>> not happen on a "per page" basis but "per object".
>> I've done quite some testing. And quite often it happens that I
>> work on my TabletPC on the road and on my desktop PC when being at
>> home. And I do not immediately connect the two when coming home,
>> sometimes a day later with quite some work be done on the desktop
>> PC. Never had a problem in so far.
>
> Thanks.
De nada, dear old virtual friend
Rainald
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On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:19:39 +0100, "Rainald Taesler" <taesler[ at ]gmx.de>
wrote:
[Quoted Text] >De nada, dear old virtual friend
We're gonna have to make this more than just virtual one of these
days. Next time your travel plans take you out to the Los Angeles
area, let me know!
//Steve//
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Steve Silverwood wrote:
[Quoted Text] >> De nada, dear old virtual friend
>
> We're gonna have to make this more than just virtual one of these
> days. Next time your travel plans take you out to the Los Angeles
> area, let me know!
Would be nice, indeed.
But no plans to visit the USA for the next years :-( :-(
Rainald
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