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I've spent the better part of an evening going back and forth trying to
install the add-on, which Mozilla will not download, in spite of the
about:config hacks. By now I would think that this would have been figured
out, since millions of people have upgraded to Firefox 3.
OneNote is a wonderful program until now, though MS does not seem to be able
to afford to provide much support for it, as others have noted. \
Thanks.
--
Mr. Jim
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Mr. Jim wrote:
[Quoted Text] > OneNote is a wonderful program until now, though MS does not seem
> to be able to afford to provide much support for it, as others have
> noted. \
The latter is not true at all!
Who can expect that *MS* would create Add-ins/-ons for a product which
is the main competitor of their own browser?
Who might expect to get a navigator produced by BMW customized by BMW
for usage in a Ford car?
Just my 2 cents.
Rainald
P.S. If instead of bashing MS you'd have taken the time for searching in
the web, you might have found the available Firefox Add-in in far less
time than needed for a posting aiming at blaming MS.
Just collect what you need from here:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7538
http://www.freewebs.com/onenote/
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How far did you get?
From memory, for FF3 the process was:
1. Find the add-in on Mozilla
2. Register
3. Download
4. Install (but there was an error message, which escapes me at the moment).
How far did you get? If to step 4, what error message are you getting?
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David Olsen
www.powerbits.com.au
"Mr. Jim" <MrJim[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F81C5391-FF17-4C62-9AD1-6BFA7C188873[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > I've spent the better part of an evening going back and forth trying to
> install the add-on, which Mozilla will not download, in spite of the
> about:config hacks. By now I would think that this would have been
> figured
> out, since millions of people have upgraded to Firefox 3.
>
> OneNote is a wonderful program until now, though MS does not seem to be
> able
> to afford to provide much support for it, as others have noted. \
>
> Thanks.
> --
> Mr. Jim
>
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Yes, thanks for the link. That's the one that doesn't work with the current
version of Firefox, in spite of what it says. Firefox has become more
concerned with security in their latest version and that workaround doesn't
work any more.
Thanks again.
--
Mr. Jim
"Rainald Taesler" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Mr. Jim wrote: > > > OneNote is a wonderful program until now, though MS does not seem > > to be able to afford to provide much support for it, as others have > > noted. \ > > In addition to my recent angry posting: > Even Daniel Escapa (chief developer in the OneNote team) in his blog > points to how to install the Firefox Add-in > http://blogs.msdn.com/descapa/archive/2008/04/03/clip-to-onenote-with-firefox-3.aspx> > Rainald > > |
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Error in hash function of the download at install. Yet the download has not
apparently changed. I installed it onto my Firefox 3 with Vista on my laptop
about a month ago and it works fine.
This morning I am making do by making my left hand do some work, "playing
bass" as it were, punching Win+n to open a new smaller OneNote window, and
dragging the web page selection to it, then keying Alt+space+c to vanish the
ON window. It is fast and reasonably convenient.
But I would like to go back to right-clicking and "Clip to OneNote." That is
not an unreasonable demand, IMO.
Maybe MS could toss 500 bucks to a programmer in India to fix this, if their
ON dev team is currently strapped for cash, as MS seems to be. ; )
--
Mr. Jim
"David" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > How far did you get?
>
> From memory, for FF3 the process was:
> 1. Find the add-in on Mozilla
> 2. Register
> 3. Download
> 4. Install (but there was an error message, which escapes me at the moment).
>
> How far did you get? If to step 4, what error message are you getting?
>
> --
> David Olsen
> www.powerbits.com.au
>
>
> "Mr. Jim" <MrJim[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F81C5391-FF17-4C62-9AD1-6BFA7C188873[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > I've spent the better part of an evening going back and forth trying to
> > install the add-on, which Mozilla will not download, in spite of the
> > about:config hacks. By now I would think that this would have been
> > figured
> > out, since millions of people have upgraded to Firefox 3.
> >
> > OneNote is a wonderful program until now, though MS does not seem to be
> > able
> > to afford to provide much support for it, as others have noted. \
> >
> > Thanks.
> > --
> > Mr. Jim
> >
>
>
>
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As a practical businessman and PR person, I can think of more than one reason
why MS would be interested in making ON's entire user base want to speak
highly of it here, and in places such as Amazon reviews where a person such
as me can give it one star because MS doesn't care if ONdoesn't work with the
world's second most popular browser. Firefox 3 is highly popular among the
college crowd, as you know, and that crowd is one of OneNote's biggest users
and potential buyers.
There are other obvious reasons which a little thought can provide.
As for the auto navigator analogy, that product costs the user money and the
producer charges for it. Browsers are free and BMW would be wise to make the
navigator work in Fords if they could, by five hundred bucks worth of
programming, also make it work, perhaps crippled a little slower, in Fords,
if Fords were being used by the millions around the world. That's just common
business sense. The auto analogy fails on other points also, as other can
point out. Neither ON nor browsers are such specialty products, for example,
but major programs used for hours a day perhaps, etc. Gotta go. Regards.
--
Mr. Jim
"Rainald Taesler" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Mr. Jim wrote: > > > OneNote is a wonderful program until now, though MS does not seem > > to be able to afford to provide much support for it, as others have > > noted. \ > > The latter is not true at all! > Who can expect that *MS* would create Add-ins/-ons for a product which > is the main competitor of their own browser? > Who might expect to get a navigator produced by BMW customized by BMW > for usage in a Ford car? > > Just my 2 cents. > > Rainald > P.S. If instead of bashing MS you'd have taken the time for searching in > the web, you might have found the available Firefox Add-in in far less > time than needed for a posting aiming at blaming MS. > Just collect what you need from here: > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7538> http://www.freewebs.com/onenote/> > > > > |
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From memory I had to accept third party cookies to get around this error.
Menu: Tools-Options-Privacy
PLEASE NOTE: I strongly recommend if you follow this advice, that you
immediately restore the setting (untick Accept third-party cookies) once the
Add-On download has been successfully completed. Rejecting third-party
cookies is a significant factor in maintaining internet privacy.
Once downloaded, I also recall that I had to set the path to OneNote.exe
Menu: Tools-Add-ons-(select Clip to OneNote)-Options
--
David Olsen
www.powerbits.com.au
"Mr. Jim" <MrJim[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B2A343CF-1018-4AAC-9488-798584757186[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Error in hash function of the download at install. Yet the download has
> not
> apparently changed. I installed it onto my Firefox 3 with Vista on my
> laptop
> about a month ago and it works fine.
>
> This morning I am making do by making my left hand do some work, "playing
> bass" as it were, punching Win+n to open a new smaller OneNote window, and
> dragging the web page selection to it, then keying Alt+space+c to vanish
> the
> ON window. It is fast and reasonably convenient.
>
> But I would like to go back to right-clicking and "Clip to OneNote." That
> is
> not an unreasonable demand, IMO.
>
> Maybe MS could toss 500 bucks to a programmer in India to fix this, if
> their
> ON dev team is currently strapped for cash, as MS seems to be. ; )
> --
> Mr. Jim
>
>
> "David" wrote:
>
>> How far did you get?
>>
>> From memory, for FF3 the process was:
>> 1. Find the add-in on Mozilla
>> 2. Register
>> 3. Download
>> 4. Install (but there was an error message, which escapes me at the
>> moment).
>>
>> How far did you get? If to step 4, what error message are you getting?
>>
>> --
>> David Olsen
>> www.powerbits.com.au
>>
>>
>> "Mr. Jim" <MrJim[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F81C5391-FF17-4C62-9AD1-6BFA7C188873[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> > I've spent the better part of an evening going back and forth trying to
>> > install the add-on, which Mozilla will not download, in spite of the
>> > about:config hacks. By now I would think that this would have been
>> > figured
>> > out, since millions of people have upgraded to Firefox 3.
>> >
>> > OneNote is a wonderful program until now, though MS does not seem to be
>> > able
>> > to afford to provide much support for it, as others have noted. \
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> > --
>> > Mr. Jim
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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David, you are THE MAN! BRAVO!
"From memory," you say. Well you have an outstanding memory and my hat is
off to you. Temporarily allowing third party cookies did the trick, finally,
thanks to you.
I find it unfortunate that this full solution isn't readily available on
Google, nor that Dan Escapa's blog and the other ON blogs aren't covering
this. I really have been a cheerleader for ON 2007 amongst those I know, and
especially students.
Judging by the frequency and dates on questions in this (what seems to be
the only) help forum for it, the program is not being a big seller nor
generating the interest I would have expected for such a fine program. If so,
that's too bad.
Thank you again. MS should IMO send you a check because I am hardly the only
one on the planet who encountered this new problem. And as AOL did in its
ugly heyday, they shouldn't expect volunteers to do their tech suport for
them, considering their cash reserves.
--
Mr. Jim
"David" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > From memory I had to accept third party cookies to get around this error.
> Menu: Tools-Options-Privacy
> PLEASE NOTE: I strongly recommend if you follow this advice, that you
> immediately restore the setting (untick Accept third-party cookies) once the
> Add-On download has been successfully completed. Rejecting third-party
> cookies is a significant factor in maintaining internet privacy.
>
> Once downloaded, I also recall that I had to set the path to OneNote.exe
> Menu: Tools-Add-ons-(select Clip to OneNote)-Options
>
> --
> David Olsen
> www.powerbits.com.au
>
>
> "Mr. Jim" <MrJim[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B2A343CF-1018-4AAC-9488-798584757186[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > Error in hash function of the download at install. Yet the download has
> > not
> > apparently changed. I installed it onto my Firefox 3 with Vista on my
> > laptop
> > about a month ago and it works fine.
> >
> > This morning I am making do by making my left hand do some work, "playing
> > bass" as it were, punching Win+n to open a new smaller OneNote window, and
> > dragging the web page selection to it, then keying Alt+space+c to vanish
> > the
> > ON window. It is fast and reasonably convenient.
> >
> > But I would like to go back to right-clicking and "Clip to OneNote." That
> > is
> > not an unreasonable demand, IMO.
> >
> > Maybe MS could toss 500 bucks to a programmer in India to fix this, if
> > their
> > ON dev team is currently strapped for cash, as MS seems to be. ; )
> > --
> > Mr. Jim
> >
> >
> > "David" wrote:
> >
> >> How far did you get?
> >>
> >> From memory, for FF3 the process was:
> >> 1. Find the add-in on Mozilla
> >> 2. Register
> >> 3. Download
> >> 4. Install (but there was an error message, which escapes me at the
> >> moment).
> >>
> >> How far did you get? If to step 4, what error message are you getting?
> >>
> >> --
> >> David Olsen
> >> www.powerbits.com.au
> >>
> >>
> >> "Mr. Jim" <MrJim[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:F81C5391-FF17-4C62-9AD1-6BFA7C188873[ at ]microsoft.com...
> >> > I've spent the better part of an evening going back and forth trying to
> >> > install the add-on, which Mozilla will not download, in spite of the
> >> > about:config hacks. By now I would think that this would have been
> >> > figured
> >> > out, since millions of people have upgraded to Firefox 3.
> >> >
> >> > OneNote is a wonderful program until now, though MS does not seem to be
> >> > able
> >> > to afford to provide much support for it, as others have noted. \
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >> > --
> >> > Mr. Jim
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
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Glad it worked out ok.
Not sure what the sales are for ON, but as a consultant I find it an
excellent tool.
The tipping point for me was the synchronising with my phone.
--
David Olsen
www.powerbits.com.au
"Mr. Jim" <MrJim[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2B1DA353-052A-43D5-8521-58AEF8E40AB3[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > David, you are THE MAN! BRAVO!
>
> "From memory," you say. Well you have an outstanding memory and my hat is
> off to you. Temporarily allowing third party cookies did the trick,
> finally,
> thanks to you.
>
> I find it unfortunate that this full solution isn't readily available on
> Google, nor that Dan Escapa's blog and the other ON blogs aren't covering
> this. I really have been a cheerleader for ON 2007 amongst those I know,
> and
> especially students.
>
> Judging by the frequency and dates on questions in this (what seems to be
> the only) help forum for it, the program is not being a big seller nor
> generating the interest I would have expected for such a fine program. If
> so,
> that's too bad.
>
> Thank you again. MS should IMO send you a check because I am hardly the
> only
> one on the planet who encountered this new problem. And as AOL did in its
> ugly heyday, they shouldn't expect volunteers to do their tech suport for
> them, considering their cash reserves.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Mr. Jim
>
>
> "David" wrote:
>
>> From memory I had to accept third party cookies to get around this error.
>> Menu: Tools-Options-Privacy
>> PLEASE NOTE: I strongly recommend if you follow this advice, that you
>> immediately restore the setting (untick Accept third-party cookies) once
>> the
>> Add-On download has been successfully completed. Rejecting third-party
>> cookies is a significant factor in maintaining internet privacy.
>>
>> Once downloaded, I also recall that I had to set the path to OneNote.exe
>> Menu: Tools-Add-ons-(select Clip to OneNote)-Options
>>
>> --
>> David Olsen
>> www.powerbits.com.au
>>
>>
>> "Mr. Jim" <MrJim[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:B2A343CF-1018-4AAC-9488-798584757186[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> > Error in hash function of the download at install. Yet the download has
>> > not
>> > apparently changed. I installed it onto my Firefox 3 with Vista on my
>> > laptop
>> > about a month ago and it works fine.
>> >
>> > This morning I am making do by making my left hand do some work,
>> > "playing
>> > bass" as it were, punching Win+n to open a new smaller OneNote window,
>> > and
>> > dragging the web page selection to it, then keying Alt+space+c to
>> > vanish
>> > the
>> > ON window. It is fast and reasonably convenient.
>> >
>> > But I would like to go back to right-clicking and "Clip to OneNote."
>> > That
>> > is
>> > not an unreasonable demand, IMO.
>> >
>> > Maybe MS could toss 500 bucks to a programmer in India to fix this, if
>> > their
>> > ON dev team is currently strapped for cash, as MS seems to be. ; )
>> > --
>> > Mr. Jim
>> >
>> >
>> > "David" wrote:
>> >
>> >> How far did you get?
>> >>
>> >> From memory, for FF3 the process was:
>> >> 1. Find the add-in on Mozilla
>> >> 2. Register
>> >> 3. Download
>> >> 4. Install (but there was an error message, which escapes me at the
>> >> moment).
>> >>
>> >> How far did you get? If to step 4, what error message are you
>> >> getting?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> David Olsen
>> >> www.powerbits.com.au
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Mr. Jim" <MrJim[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:F81C5391-FF17-4C62-9AD1-6BFA7C188873[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> >> > I've spent the better part of an evening going back and forth trying
>> >> > to
>> >> > install the add-on, which Mozilla will not download, in spite of the
>> >> > about:config hacks. By now I would think that this would have been
>> >> > figured
>> >> > out, since millions of people have upgraded to Firefox 3.
>> >> >
>> >> > OneNote is a wonderful program until now, though MS does not seem to
>> >> > be
>> >> > able
>> >> > to afford to provide much support for it, as others have noted. \
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks.
>> >> > --
>> >> > Mr. Jim
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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I'm glad to read that you could solve the problem with David's help.
AFAICS the problem was not a thing which MS might be held responsible
for, but just security settings in FireFox ...
Mr. Jim wrote:
[Quoted Text] >> OneNote is a wonderful program until now, though MS does not seem
>> to be able to afford to provide much support for it, as others have
>> noted. \
>
> The latter is not true at all!
> Who can expect that *MS* would create Add-ins/-ons for a product which
> is the main competitor of their own browser?
> Who might expect to get a navigator produced by BMW customized by BMW
> for usage in a Ford car?
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Rainald
> P.S. If instead of bashing MS you'd have taken the time for searching
in
> the web, you might have found the available Firefox Add-in in far less
> time than needed for a posting aiming at blaming MS.
> Just collect what you need from here:
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7538
> http://www.freewebs.com/onenote/
> As a practical businessman and PR person, I can think of more than
> one reason why MS would be interested in making ON's entire user
> base want to speak highly of it here, and in places such as Amazon
> reviews where a person such as me can give it one star because MS
> doesn't care if ON doesn't work with the world's second most popular
> browser. Firefox 3 is highly popular among the college crowd, as
> you know, and that crowd is one of OneNote's biggest users and
> potential buyers.
As said before, IMHO it's not MS' task to provide support for Firefox -
the more as this "Open Source" device gets enough support from the
community.
Would you expect that MS would create Add-ons for a product they do not
have the copyrights for?
AFAICS creating Add-ons needs touching "foreign" program code. Should MS
be forced to work with code for which they are not having any rights?
> There are other obvious reasons which a little thought can provide.
>
> As for the auto navigator analogy, that product costs the user
> money and the producer charges for it. Browsers are free and BMW
> would be wise to make the navigator work in Fords if they could, by
> five hundred bucks worth of programming, also make it work, perhaps
> crippled a little slower, in Fords, if Fords were being used by the
> millions around the world. That's just common business sense. The
> auto analogy fails on other points also, as other can point out.
> Neither ON nor browsers are such specialty products, for example,
> but major programs used for hours a day perhaps, etc. Gotta go.
For sure the "auto" analogy fails (as most analogies do) {siiiigh}.
The old Latin saying "exempla trahunt" does not have too much truth in
it. One might better say: "analogy are mostly having a leg which limps"
<bg>.
Rainald
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Mr. Jim wrote:
[Quoted Text] >>> OneNote is a wonderful program until now, though MS does not seem
>>> to be able to afford to provide much support for it, as others
>>> have noted. \
>>
>> In addition to my recent angry posting:
>> Even Daniel Escapa (chief developer in the OneNote team) in his
>> blog points to how to install the Firefox Add-in
>>
http://blogs.msdn.com/descapa/archive/2008/04/03/clip-to-onenote-with-firefox-3.aspx
>>
> Yes, thanks for the link. That's the one that doesn't work with the
> current version of Firefox, in spite of what it says. Firefox has
> become more concerned with security in their latest version and
> that workaround doesn't work any more.
Just curious (and for avoiding to use the link in the future):
Did the link point to a wrong location?
Or were there only the problems with downloading and activating the
Add-on?
Rainald
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