deleting CommandBars "Mark J. McGinty" <mmcginty[ at ]spamfromyou.com> 6/29/2006 7:12:07 PM Is there any good reason to delete all of the Controls in a CommandBar, before deleting the CommandBar itself? -Mark

Re: deleting CommandBars "Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]" <kenslovak[ at ]mvps.org> 6/30/2006 9:27:01 PM I always just delete the command bar, but I also set it as temporary when I create it. -- Ken Slovak [MVP - Outlook] http://www.slovaktech.com Author: Absolute Beginner's Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003 Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm "Mark J. McGinty" <mmcginty[ at ]spamfromyou.com> wrote in message news:uufT8%236mGHA.4620[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > Is there any good reason to delete all of the Controls in a CommandBar, > before deleting the CommandBar itself? > > -Mark >

Re: deleting CommandBars "Mark J. McGinty" <mmcginty[ at ]spamfromyou.com> 7/4/2006 1:40:17 PM "Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]" <kenslovak[ at ]mvps.org> wrote in message news:OQIlxvInGHA.4352[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] >I always just delete the command bar, but I also set it as temporary when I >create it. Thanks for the reply, Ken. A couple more questions, if I may... The temporary flag prevents the bar/button definition from being persisted? Wouldn't that tend to make removal unnecessary? I take it you don't pay any attention to RemoveMode when the AddIn disconnects? Thanks, Mark > -- > Ken Slovak > [MVP - Outlook] > http://www.slovaktech.com > Author: Absolute Beginner's Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003 > Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options > http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm > > > "Mark J. McGinty" <mmcginty[ at ]spamfromyou.com> wrote in message > news:uufT8%236mGHA.4620[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Is there any good reason to delete all of the Controls in a CommandBar, >> before deleting the CommandBar itself? >> >> -Mark >> >

Re: deleting CommandBars "Mark J. McGinty" <mmcginty[ at ]spamfromyou.com> 7/4/2006 2:23:34 PM "Mark J. McGinty" <mmcginty[ at ]spamfromyou.com> wrote in message news:OJU0v82nGHA.4172[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > > "Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]" <kenslovak[ at ]mvps.org> wrote in message > news:OQIlxvInGHA.4352[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>I always just delete the command bar, but I also set it as temporary when >>I >>create it. > > Thanks for the reply, Ken. > > A couple more questions, if I may... The temporary flag prevents the > bar/button definition from being persisted? Wouldn't that tend to make > removal unnecessary? > > I take it you don't pay any attention to RemoveMode when the AddIn > disconnects? Hmm, trying to remove them when (RemoveMode <> ext_dm_UserClosed) seems to be a moot point, since that is the only way OnDisconnection fires while a valid Explorer exists. I also noticed that removing CommandBars in Explorer_Close fails with error: "The Explorer has been closed and cannot be used for further operations. Review your code and restart Outlook." I made both the buttons and the bars temporary (and manually deleted the old bar.) The buttons go away when OL exits, but the bar persists, even when the temp parameter to CommamdBars.Add is True. Where do you remove your CommandBars? -Mark > Thanks, > Mark > > > > > > >> -- >> Ken Slovak >> [MVP - Outlook] >> http://www.slovaktech.com >> Author: Absolute Beginner's Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003 >> Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options >> http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm >> >> >> "Mark J. McGinty" <mmcginty[ at ]spamfromyou.com> wrote in message >> news:uufT8%236mGHA.4620[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Is there any good reason to delete all of the Controls in a CommandBar, >>> before deleting the CommandBar itself? >>> >>> -Mark >>> >> > > > >

Re: deleting CommandBars "Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]" <kenslovak[ at ]mvps.org> 7/5/2006 2:04:56 PM It makes removal automatic, but with Outlook I'm a firm believer in belt plus suspenders. I don't pay attention to removal mode but if Outlook is exiting you won't get an On_Disconnection event unless all of your Outlook objects have already been released. A classic Catch-22 situation that's only now fixed in Outlook 2007. So we monitor for Explorer.Close and Inspector.Close and if there are no additional Explorers or Inspectors then Outlook is closing and you release all your Outlook objects so On_Disconnection can fire. If the user disconnects the addin I call my release code from On_Disconnection and that checks to see if my global Outlook application object has already been released. If so I just exit that procedure gracefully. One exception to the temporary rule is WordMail. Word doesn't honor the temporary setting although it doesn't fire an error if you set it. So for WordMail you must explicitly delete the buttons/toolbars you've added as well as deal with the CustomizationContext so the user doesn't get your buttons/toolbars when Word (not WordMail) is used and so the user doesn't get a prompt to save Normal.dot when they exit if set to prompt for saving changes to Normal.dot. -- Ken Slovak [MVP - Outlook] http://www.slovaktech.com Author: Absolute Beginner's Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003 Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm "Mark J. McGinty" <mmcginty[ at ]spamfromyou.com> wrote in message news:OJU0v82nGHA.4172[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > > "Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]" <kenslovak[ at ]mvps.org> wrote in message > news:OQIlxvInGHA.4352[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>I always just delete the command bar, but I also set it as temporary when >>I >>create it. > > Thanks for the reply, Ken. > > A couple more questions, if I may... The temporary flag prevents the > bar/button definition from being persisted? Wouldn't that tend to make > removal unnecessary? > > I take it you don't pay any attention to RemoveMode when the AddIn > disconnects? > > > Thanks, > Mark

Re: deleting CommandBars "Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]" <kenslovak[ at ]mvps.org> 7/5/2006 2:07:03 PM Is Outlook truly exiting? I never get persistent toolbars that weren't supposed to be there. I do use Explorer.Close. -- Ken Slovak [MVP - Outlook] http://www.slovaktech.com Author: Absolute Beginner's Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003 Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm "Mark J. McGinty" <mmcginty[ at ]spamfromyou.com> wrote in message news:O3H86U3nGHA.1592[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > > "Mark J. McGinty" <mmcginty[ at ]spamfromyou.com> wrote in message > news:OJU0v82nGHA.4172[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >> "Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]" <kenslovak[ at ]mvps.org> wrote in message >> news:OQIlxvInGHA.4352[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>I always just delete the command bar, but I also set it as temporary when >>>I >>>create it. >> >> Thanks for the reply, Ken. >> >> A couple more questions, if I may... The temporary flag prevents the >> bar/button definition from being persisted? Wouldn't that tend to make >> removal unnecessary? >> >> I take it you don't pay any attention to RemoveMode when the AddIn >> disconnects? > > Hmm, trying to remove them when (RemoveMode <> ext_dm_UserClosed) seems to > be a moot point, since that is the only way OnDisconnection fires while a > valid Explorer exists. I also noticed that removing CommandBars in > Explorer_Close fails with error: "The Explorer has been closed and cannot > be used for further operations. Review your code and restart Outlook." > > I made both the buttons and the bars temporary (and manually deleted the > old bar.) The buttons go away when OL exits, but the bar persists, even > when the temp parameter to CommamdBars.Add is True. > > Where do you remove your CommandBars? > > > -Mark > > > >> Thanks, >> Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> -- >>> Ken Slovak >>> [MVP - Outlook] >>> http://www.slovaktech.com >>> Author: Absolute Beginner's Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003 >>> Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options >>> http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm >>> >>> >>> "Mark J. McGinty" <mmcginty[ at ]spamfromyou.com> wrote in message >>> news:uufT8%236mGHA.4620[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> Is there any good reason to delete all of the Controls in a CommandBar, >>>> before deleting the CommandBar itself? >>>> >>>> -Mark >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> > >