No Defrag. "MULTISY" <multisy[ at ]ieee.org> 24.06.2007 16:57:22 Turn-off Defrag it fails, when Diskeeper loaded; forced to run une-up every month (Max length).

Re: No Defrag. "MULTISY" <multisy[ at ]ieee.org> 25.06.2007 14:29:27 Windows defrag report hard drive is too fragmented and quits: Because of high levels of disk fragmentation, starred volumes could not be completedi this Tune-up and are marked for defragmentation in later Tune-ups. Re-runnung Diskeeper fixes what Windows defrag does; so it is not necessary for the Windows defrag to do anything (do not run), it is just competing with another defrag tool. Also Diskeeper uses IFaast which relocates files on hard drive for faster access; Windows defrag may undo this by moving elsewhere on hard drive, so again just not running Windows defrag during tune-up would be best, and tune-up could be run more frequently. "StephenB" <sboots[ at ]mvps.org> wrote in message news:lh8u73ht9ohrs6aejsqu45bk25vjd7t4ot[ at ]4ax.com... [Quoted Text] > "MULTISY" <multisy[ at ]ieee.org> wrote: > >>Turn-off Defrag it fails, when Diskeeper loaded; forced to run une-up >>every >>month (Max length). >> > Eh? > Could you clarify? > > The OneCare PC software uses Windows defrag, no matter what you've > installed, > and it can't be turned off at this time. > -steve > -- > Stephen Boots sboots[ at ]mvps.org > Microsoft MVP - Windows Live > Windows Live OneCare Forum Moderator > http://forums.microsoft.com/windowsonecare/default.aspx?siteid=2

Re: No Defrag. "Astigmatic Owl" <bobhillski[ at ]att.net> 25.06.2007 16:56:59 "StephenB" <sboots[ at ]mvps.org> wrote in message news:roov73l51ue3kdjrut1ibre66r98mqt034[ at ]4ax.com... [Quoted Text] > "MULTISY" <multisy[ at ]ieee.org> wrote: > >>Windows defrag report hard drive is too fragmented and quits: Because of >>high levels of disk fragmentation, starred volumes could not be completedi >>this Tune-up and are marked for defragmentation in later Tune-ups. >> >>Re-runnung Diskeeper fixes what Windows defrag does; so it is not >>necessary >>for the Windows defrag to do anything (do not run), it is just competing >>with another defrag tool. Also Diskeeper uses IFaast which relocates >>files >>on hard drive for faster access; Windows defrag may undo this by moving >>elsewhere on hard drive, so again just not running Windows defrag during >>tune-up would be best, and tune-up could be run more frequently. >> >> >>"StephenB" <sboots[ at ]mvps.org> wrote in message >>news:lh8u73ht9ohrs6aejsqu45bk25vjd7t4ot[ at ]4ax.com... >>> "MULTISY" <multisy[ at ]ieee.org> wrote: >>> >>>>Turn-off Defrag it fails, when Diskeeper loaded; forced to run une-up >>>>every >>>>month (Max length). >>>> >>> Eh? >>> Could you clarify? >>> >>> The OneCare PC software uses Windows defrag, no matter what you've >>> installed, >>> and it can't be turned off at this time. >>> -steve > > I see. Yes, this is the reason that many people have asked for the ability > to > turn off Defrag in OneCare's tune-up or specify an external Defrag utility > for > use, if possible. There was a big discussion on this in the forums, but we > haven't seen it changed - yet. > -steve > > -- > Stephen Boots sboots[ at ]mvps.org > Microsoft MVP - Windows Live > Windows Live OneCare Forum Moderator > http://forums.microsoft.com/windowsonecare/default.aspx?siteid=2 I've run into similar problems with Defrag under Tune-Up. Defrag runs on its own schedule on Wednesday. Tune-Up runs on Sundays. Defrag, running alone, doesn't indicate any problems. Defrag under Tune-Up indicates the disk is too fragmented to complete. The only way I've found for Tune-Up's defrag to complete successfully is to run the stand-alone defrag first, immediately before the Tune-Up. I've seen this on 2 Vista computers. It doesn't seem to matter how much, or how little activity the computers experience before the Tune-Up. Owl.

Re: No Defrag. "Chuck" <cjsodapop[ at ]hotmail.com> 25.06.2007 17:31:57 Run Diskeeper before the tune-up and you will find the OneCare Defrag works just great -- Chuck-W MSN Beta Butterfly Windows Live Butterfly OneCare Forum Moderator "MULTISY" <multisy[ at ]ieee.org> wrote in message news:#phF#CotHHA.3688[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > Turn-off Defrag it fails, when Diskeeper loaded; forced to run une-up > every month (Max length). >

Re: No Defrag. "MULTISY" <multisy[ at ]ieee.org> 27.06.2007 18:35:12 Diskeeper runs continuously, and you still do not want to have OneCare Defrag to move IFaast files. So it still better not to have OneCare run any Defrag. "Chuck" <cjsodapop[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message news:A91D272E-38C1-4EB1-A640-AB4AB4742725[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Run Diskeeper before the tune-up and you will find the OneCare Defrag > works just great > > -- > Chuck-W > MSN Beta Butterfly > Windows Live Butterfly > OneCare Forum Moderator > > "MULTISY" <multisy[ at ]ieee.org> wrote in message > news:#phF#CotHHA.3688[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Turn-off Defrag it fails, when Diskeeper loaded; forced to run une-up >> every month (Max length). >>

Re: No Defrag. "Chuck" <cjsodapop[ at ]hotmail.com> 27.06.2007 21:34:09 That may be true, all I am saying is if you want the OneCare Defrag to run right do the other first. -- Chuck-W MSN Beta Butterfly Windows Live Butterfly OneCare Forum Moderator "MULTISY" <multisy[ at ]ieee.org> wrote in message news:OzsCtnOuHHA.1188[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > Diskeeper runs continuously, and you still do not want to have OneCare > Defrag to move IFaast files. So it still better not to have OneCare run > any Defrag. > > > "Chuck" <cjsodapop[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:A91D272E-38C1-4EB1-A640-AB4AB4742725[ at ]microsoft.com... >> Run Diskeeper before the tune-up and you will find the OneCare Defrag >> works just great >> >> -- >> Chuck-W >> MSN Beta Butterfly >> Windows Live Butterfly >> OneCare Forum Moderator >> >> "MULTISY" <multisy[ at ]ieee.org> wrote in message >> news:#phF#CotHHA.3688[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Turn-off Defrag it fails, when Diskeeper loaded; forced to run une-up >>> every month (Max length). >>> > >

Re: No Defrag. "Joe" <abc[ at ]xyz.com> 08.07.2007 13:54:35 What is Diskeeper? Joe "Chuck" <cjsodapop[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message news:A91D272E-38C1-4EB1-A640-AB4AB4742725[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Run Diskeeper before the tune-up and you will find the OneCare Defrag > works just great > > -- > Chuck-W > MSN Beta Butterfly > Windows Live Butterfly > OneCare Forum Moderator > > "MULTISY" <multisy[ at ]ieee.org> wrote in message > news:#phF#CotHHA.3688[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Turn-off Defrag it fails, when Diskeeper loaded; forced to run une-up >> every month (Max length). >>

Re: No Defrag. "Tagus" <stevejkgum1000[ at ]hotmail.com> 08.07.2007 19:20:20 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C7C173.7F8DD5B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's a third-party defragmenting program. http://www.diskeeper.com/ --=20 Remove gum before replying. ;-) "Joe" <abc[ at ]xyz.com> wrote in message = news:%239u5PeWwHHA.484[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... What is Diskeeper? Joe "Chuck" <cjsodapop[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message=20 news:A91D272E-38C1-4EB1-A640-AB4AB4742725[ at ]microsoft.com... > Run Diskeeper before the tune-up and you will find the OneCare = Defrag=20 > works just great > > --=20 > Chuck-W > MSN Beta Butterfly > Windows Live Butterfly > OneCare Forum Moderator > > "MULTISY" <multisy[ at ]ieee.org> wrote in message=20 > news:#phF#CotHHA.3688[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Turn-off Defrag it fails, when Diskeeper loaded; forced to run = une-up=20 >> every month (Max length). >>=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C7C173.7F8DD5B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16481" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV>It's a third-party defragmenting program. <A=20 href=3D"http://www.diskeeper.com/">http://www.diskeeper.com/</A></DIV> <DIV><BR>-- <BR>Remove gum before replying. ;-)</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV>"Joe" <<A href=3D"mailto:abc[ at ]xyz.com">abc[ at ]xyz.com</A>> = wrote in=20 message <A=20 = href=3D"news:%239u5PeWwHHA.484[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl">news:%239u5PeWwHHA.4= 84[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl</A>...</DIV>What=20 is Diskeeper?<BR><BR>Joe<BR><BR><BR><BR>"Chuck" <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:cjsodapop[ at ]hotmail.com">cjsodapop[ at ]hotmail.com</A>> = wrote in=20 message <BR><A=20 = href=3D"news:A91D272E-38C1-4EB1-A640-AB4AB4742725[ at ]microsoft.com">news:A91= D272E-38C1-4EB1-A640-AB4AB4742725[ at ]microsoft.com</A>...<BR>>=20 Run Diskeeper before the tune-up and you will find the OneCare Defrag = <BR>>=20 works just great<BR>><BR>> -- <BR>> Chuck-W<BR>> MSN Beta=20 Butterfly<BR>> Windows Live Butterfly<BR>> OneCare Forum=20 Moderator<BR>><BR>> "MULTISY" <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:multisy[ at ]ieee.org">multisy[ at ]ieee.org</A>> wrote in = message=20 <BR>> <A=20 = href=3D"news:#phF#CotHHA.3688[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl">news:#phF#CotHHA.3688= [ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl</A>...<BR>>>=20 Turn-off Defrag it fails, when Diskeeper loaded; forced to run une-up=20 <BR>>> every month (Max length).<BR>>>=20 <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C7C173.7F8DD5B0--