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Stop errors
BlastOButter42 <RobertEColgan[ at ]gmail.com> 11.07.2007 14:19:25
Hi. I'm running Windows XP SP2 on a Dell laptop with 504 MB RAM and a
1.5 GHz processor. For the past, oh, week or two, I've been getting
Stop errors. I'd had a similar problem a while ago that went away, so
I haven't done anything about this for a little while, but it's
starting to piss me off a lot. I haven't written down any of the codes
at the bottom (I will when it happens again), but the message at the
top is usually "BAD_POOL_HEADER", "BAD_POOL_CALLER" or
"PAGED_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA". I downloaded a Windows Update today
that mentioned Stop errors (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936357/en-
us), but it seems to have done nothing for my computer. Can anyone
help me resolve this, or else tell me what might help me identify the
problem?

--
Thanks,
Robert

Re: Stop errors
Ron Martell <ron.martell[ at ]gmail.com> 11.07.2007 21:57:53
BlastOButter42 <RobertEColgan[ at ]gmail.com> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>Hi. I'm running Windows XP SP2 on a Dell laptop with 504 MB RAM and a
>1.5 GHz processor. For the past, oh, week or two, I've been getting
>Stop errors. I'd had a similar problem a while ago that went away, so
>I haven't done anything about this for a little while, but it's
>starting to piss me off a lot. I haven't written down any of the codes
>at the bottom (I will when it happens again), but the message at the
>top is usually "BAD_POOL_HEADER", "BAD_POOL_CALLER" or
>"PAGED_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA". I downloaded a Windows Update today
>that mentioned Stop errors (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936357/en-
>us), but it seems to have done nothing for my computer. Can anyone
>help me resolve this, or else tell me what might help me identify the
>problem?

In addition to the name of the error we also need the rest of the
error details from the message, specifically the STOP code, all 4 of
the parameter values, and any file or module names mentioned in the
message.

Device driver issues are a common cause of your "BAD_POOL_HEADER" and
"BAD_POOL_CALLER" errors but there are a number of other factors that
can cause these as well. With "PAGED_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" a
possible RAM defect would be a prime suspect but again there are many
other possible causes.

The detailed data from these errors could help to more precisely
identify the actual culprits involved.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
Re: Stop errors
BlastOButter42 <RobertEColgan[ at ]gmail.com> 11.07.2007 22:06:58
On Jul 11, 5:57 pm, Ron Martell <ron.mart...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> BlastOButter42 <RobertECol...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote:
> >Hi. I'm running Windows XP SP2 on a Dell laptop with 504 MB RAM and a
> >1.5 GHz processor. For the past, oh, week or two, I've been getting
> >Stop errors. I'd had a similar problem a while ago that went away, so
> >I haven't done anything about this for a little while, but it's
> >starting to piss me off a lot. I haven't written down any of the codes
> >at the bottom (I will when it happens again), but the message at the
> >top is usually "BAD_POOL_HEADER", "BAD_POOL_CALLER" or
> >"PAGED_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA". I downloaded a Windows Update today
> >that mentioned Stop errors (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936357/en-
> >us), but it seems to have done nothing for my computer. Can anyone
> >help me resolve this, or else tell me what might help me identify the
> >problem?
>
> In addition to the name of the error we also need the rest of the
> error details from the message, specifically the STOP code, all 4 of
> the parameter values, and any file or module names mentioned in the
> message.
>
> Device driver issues are a common cause of your "BAD_POOL_HEADER" and
> "BAD_POOL_CALLER" errors but there are a number of other factors that
> can cause these as well. With "PAGED_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" a
> possible RAM defect would be a prime suspect but again there are many
> other possible causes.
>
> The detailed data from these errors could help to more precisely
> identify the actual culprits involved.
>
> Good luck
>
> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
> --
> Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008)
> On-Line Help Computer Servicehttp://onlinehelp.bc.ca
>
> "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
> has never been in bed with a mosquito."

So far since I posted that message I've had 4 stop errors, of which
i've
managed to write down two. The first didn't give a message at the top
(i.e.
"BAD_POOL_HEADER" etc.) but under technical information it said:
*** STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005,0xAA2F29AA,0xF8905BA4,0xF89058A0)

*** klif.xyx - Address AA2F29AA base at AA2DE000, DateStamp
44d9b0b4


The next one was "BAD_POOL_CALLER":
Technical information:
*** STOPL 0x000000C2 (0x00000007,0x00000CD4,0x0063006F,0xE23D3960)

I'll post any more that I get.

Re: Stop errors
BlastOButter42 <RobertEColgan[ at ]gmail.com> 11.07.2007 22:11:25
On Jul 11, 6:06 pm, BlastOButter42 <RobertECol...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> On Jul 11, 5:57 pm, Ron Martell <ron.mart...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > BlastOButter42 <RobertECol...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote:
> > >Hi. I'm running Windows XP SP2 on a Dell laptop with 504 MB RAM and a
> > >1.5 GHz processor. For the past, oh, week or two, I've been getting
> > >Stop errors. I'd had a similar problem a while ago that went away, so
> > >I haven't done anything about this for a little while, but it's
> > >starting to piss me off a lot. I haven't written down any of the codes
> > >at the bottom (I will when it happens again), but the message at the
> > >top is usually "BAD_POOL_HEADER", "BAD_POOL_CALLER" or
> > >"PAGED_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA". I downloaded a Windows Update today
> > >that mentioned Stop errors (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936357/en-
> > >us), but it seems to have done nothing for my computer. Can anyone
> > >help me resolve this, or else tell me what might help me identify the
> > >problem?
>
> > In addition to the name of the error we also need the rest of the
> > error details from the message, specifically the STOP code, all 4 of
> > the parameter values, and any file or module names mentioned in the
> > message.
>
> > Device driver issues are a common cause of your "BAD_POOL_HEADER" and
> > "BAD_POOL_CALLER" errors but there are a number of other factors that
> > can cause these as well. With "PAGED_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" a
> > possible RAM defect would be a prime suspect but again there are many
> > other possible causes.
>
> > The detailed data from these errors could help to more precisely
> > identify the actual culprits involved.
>
> > Good luck
>
> > Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
> > --
> > Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008)
> > On-Line Help Computer Servicehttp://onlinehelp.bc.ca
>
> > "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
> > has never been in bed with a mosquito."
>
> So far since I posted that message I've had 4 stop errors, of which
> i've
> managed to write down two. The first didn't give a message at the top
> (i.e.
> "BAD_POOL_HEADER" etc.) but under technical information it said:
> *** STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005,0xAA2F29AA,0xF8905BA4,0xF89058A0)
>
> *** klif.xyx - Address AA2F29AA base at AA2DE000, DateStamp
> 44d9b0b4
>
> The next one was "BAD_POOL_CALLER":
> Technical information:
> *** STOPL 0x000000C2 (0x00000007,0x00000CD4,0x0063006F,0xE23D3960)
>
> I'll post any more that I get.

sorry, it's "klif.sys" not "klif.xyx"

Re: Stop errors
Malke <notreally[ at ]invalid.invalid> 11.07.2007 23:59:45
BlastOButter42 wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> On Jul 11, 6:06 pm, BlastOButter42 <RobertECol...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 11, 5:57 pm, Ron Martell <ron.mart...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> BlastOButter42 <RobertECol...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi. I'm running Windows XP SP2 on a Dell laptop with 504 MB RAM and a
>>>> 1.5 GHz processor. For the past, oh, week or two, I've been getting
>>>> Stop errors. I'd had a similar problem a while ago that went away, so
>>>> I haven't done anything about this for a little while, but it's
>>>> starting to piss me off a lot. I haven't written down any of the codes
>>>> at the bottom (I will when it happens again), but the message at the
>>>> top is usually "BAD_POOL_HEADER", "BAD_POOL_CALLER" or
>>>> "PAGED_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA". I downloaded a Windows Update today
>>>> that mentioned Stop errors (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936357/en-
>>>> us), but it seems to have done nothing for my computer. Can anyone
>>>> help me resolve this, or else tell me what might help me identify the
>>>> problem?
>>> In addition to the name of the error we also need the rest of the
>>> error details from the message, specifically the STOP code, all 4 of
>>> the parameter values, and any file or module names mentioned in the
>>> message.
>>> Device driver issues are a common cause of your "BAD_POOL_HEADER" and
>>> "BAD_POOL_CALLER" errors but there are a number of other factors that
>>> can cause these as well. With "PAGED_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" a
>>> possible RAM defect would be a prime suspect but again there are many
>>> other possible causes.
>>> The detailed data from these errors could help to more precisely
>>> identify the actual culprits involved.
>>> Good luck
>>> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
>>> --
>>> Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008)
>>> On-Line Help Computer Servicehttp://onlinehelp.bc.ca
>>> "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
>>> has never been in bed with a mosquito."
>> So far since I posted that message I've had 4 stop errors, of which
>> i've
>> managed to write down two. The first didn't give a message at the top
>> (i.e.
>> "BAD_POOL_HEADER" etc.) but under technical information it said:
>> *** STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005,0xAA2F29AA,0xF8905BA4,0xF89058A0)
>>
>> *** klif.xyx - Address AA2F29AA base at AA2DE000, DateStamp
>> 44d9b0b4
>>
>> The next one was "BAD_POOL_CALLER":
>> Technical information:
>> *** STOPL 0x000000C2 (0x00000007,0x00000CD4,0x0063006F,0xE23D3960)
>>
>> I'll post any more that I get.
>
> sorry, it's "klif.sys" not "klif.xyx"
>

Klif.sys belongs to Kaspersky Antivirus and according to a Google
search, lots of people are experiencing blue screens because of it.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=klif.sys&btnG=Google+Search

I like Kaspersky, but try uninstalling it and if your problems go away,
use another antivirus. NOD32, Avast, and AntiVir Free are good.


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Re: Stop errors
Plato <|[ at ]|.|> 12.07.2007 06:17:08
BlastOButter42 wrote:
[Quoted Text]
>
> Hi. I'm running Windows XP SP2 on a Dell laptop with 504 MB RAM and a
> 1.5 GHz processor. For the past, oh, week or two, I've been getting
> Stop errors. I'd had a similar problem a while ago that went away, so

http://www.updatexp.com/stop-messages.html
http://aumha.org/win5/kbestop.htm
http://www.theeldergeek.com/stop_error_messages.htm

--
http://www.bootdisk.com/


Re: Stop errors
BlastOButter42 <RobertEColgan[ at ]gmail.com> 13.07.2007 19:28:03
On Jul 11, 6:06 pm, BlastOButter42 <RobertECol...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> On Jul 11, 5:57 pm, Ron Martell <ron.mart...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > BlastOButter42 <RobertECol...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote:
> > >Hi. I'm running Windows XP SP2 on a Dell laptop with 504 MB RAM and a
> > >1.5 GHz processor. For the past, oh, week or two, I've been getting
> > >Stoperrors. I'd had a similar problem a while ago that went away, so
> > >I haven't done anything about this for a little while, but it's
> > >starting to piss me off a lot. I haven't written down any of the codes
> > >at the bottom (I will when it happens again), but the message at the
> > >top is usually "BAD_POOL_HEADER", "BAD_POOL_CALLER" or
> > >"PAGED_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA". I downloaded a Windows Update today
> > >that mentionedStoperrors(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936357/en-
> > >us), but it seems to have done nothing for my computer. Can anyone
> > >help me resolve this, or else tell me what might help me identify the
> > >problem?
>
> > In addition to the name of the error we also need the rest of the
> > error details from the message, specifically theSTOPcode, all 4 of
> > the parameter values, and any file or module names mentioned in the
> > message.
>
> > Device driver issues are a common cause of your "BAD_POOL_HEADER" and
> > "BAD_POOL_CALLER"errorsbut there are a number of other factors that
> > can cause these as well. With "PAGED_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" a
> > possible RAM defect would be a prime suspect but again there are many
> > other possible causes.
>
> > The detailed data from theseerrorscould help to more precisely
> > identify the actual culprits involved.
>
> > Good luck
>
> > Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
> > --
> > Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008)
> > On-Line Help Computer Servicehttp://onlinehelp.bc.ca
>
> > "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
> > has never been in bed with a mosquito."
>
> So far since I posted that message I've had 4stoperrors, of which
> i've
> managed to write down two. The first didn't give a message at the top
> (i.e.
> "BAD_POOL_HEADER" etc.) but under technical information it said:
> ***STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005,0xAA2F29AA,0xF8905BA4,0xF89058A0)
>
> *** klif.xyx - Address AA2F29AA base at AA2DE000, DateStamp
> 44d9b0b4
>
> The next one was "BAD_POOL_CALLER":
> Technical information:
> *** STOPL 0x000000C2 (0x00000007,0x00000CD4,0x0063006F,0xE23D3960)
>
> I'll post any more that I get.


Re: Stop errors
BlastOButter42 <RobertEColgan[ at ]gmail.com> 13.07.2007 19:30:27
On Jul 11, 6:06 pm, BlastOButter42 <RobertECol...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> On Jul 11, 5:57 pm, Ron Martell <ron.mart...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >BlastOButter42<RobertECol...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote:
> > >Hi. I'm running Windows XP SP2 on a Dell laptop with 504 MB RAM and a
> > >1.5 GHz processor. For the past, oh, week or two, I've been getting
> > >Stop errors. I'd had a similar problem a while ago that went away, so
> > >I haven't done anything about this for a little while, but it's
> > >starting to piss me off a lot. I haven't written down any of the codes
> > >at the bottom (I will when it happens again), but the message at the
> > >top is usually "BAD_POOL_HEADER", "BAD_POOL_CALLER" or
> > >"PAGED_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA". I downloaded a Windows Update today
> > >that mentioned Stop errors (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936357/en-
> > >us), but it seems to have done nothing for my computer. Can anyone
> > >help me resolve this, or else tell me what might help me identify the
> > >problem?
>
> > In addition to the name of the error we also need the rest of the
> > error details from the message, specifically the STOP code, all 4 of
> > the parameter values, and any file or module names mentioned in the
> > message.
>
> > Device driver issues are a common cause of your "BAD_POOL_HEADER" and
> > "BAD_POOL_CALLER" errors but there are a number of other factors that
> > can cause these as well. With "PAGED_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" a
> > possible RAM defect would be a prime suspect but again there are many
> > other possible causes.
>
> > The detailed data from these errors could help to more precisely
> > identify the actual culprits involved.
>
> > Good luck
>
> > Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
> > --
> > Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008)
> > On-Line Help Computer Servicehttp://onlinehelp.bc.ca
>
> > "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
> > has never been in bed with a mosquito."
>
> So far since I posted that message I've had 4 stop errors, of which
> i've
> managed to write down two. The first didn't give a message at the top
> (i.e.
> "BAD_POOL_HEADER" etc.) but under technical information it said:
> *** STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005,0xAA2F29AA,0xF8905BA4,0xF89058A0)
>
> *** klif.xyx - Address AA2F29AA base at AA2DE000, DateStamp
> 44d9b0b4
>
> The next one was "BAD_POOL_CALLER":
> Technical information:
> *** STOPL 0x000000C2 (0x00000007,0x00000CD4,0x0063006F,0xE23D3960)
>
> I'll post any more that I get.

Thanks to everyone who's helped so far. I've got a couple more:

This one also didn't provide a message at the top, but the technical
information was:
*** STOP: 0x0000008E (0xC0000005,0x8062A464,0xA84C8340,0x00000000)

The next one said:
*** STOP: 0x00000024 (0x001902FE,0xA7E35504,0xA7E35200,0xF8274C16)
*** Ntfs.sys - Address F8274C16 base at F8250000, DateStamp
45cc56a7)

And the next:
*** STOP: 0x0000008E (0xC0000005,0xBF808408,0xA8702004,0x00000000)
*** win32k.sys - Address BF808408 base at BF800000,
DateStamp45f013f6

And the next:
*** STOP: 0x0000008E (0xC0000005,0x80544AF3, 0xA7E6AA14,0x00000000)

And the next:
The message at the top was "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" and the technical
information was:
*** STOP: 0x0000000A (0x006B007E,0x000000FF,0x00000000,0x80531D36)

Re: Stop errors
Ron Martell <ron.martell[ at ]gmail.com> 13.07.2007 19:52:03
BlastOButter42 <RobertEColgan[ at ]gmail.com> wrote:


[Quoted Text]
>
>Thanks to everyone who's helped so far. I've got a couple more:
>
>This one also didn't provide a message at the top, but the technical
>information was:
>*** STOP: 0x0000008E (0xC0000005,0x8062A464,0xA84C8340,0x00000000)
>
>The next one said:
>*** STOP: 0x00000024 (0x001902FE,0xA7E35504,0xA7E35200,0xF8274C16)
>*** Ntfs.sys - Address F8274C16 base at F8250000, DateStamp
>45cc56a7)
>
>And the next:
>*** STOP: 0x0000008E (0xC0000005,0xBF808408,0xA8702004,0x00000000)
>*** win32k.sys - Address BF808408 base at BF800000,
>DateStamp45f013f6
>
>And the next:
>*** STOP: 0x0000008E (0xC0000005,0x80544AF3, 0xA7E6AA14,0x00000000)
>
>And the next:
>The message at the top was "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" and the technical
>information was:
>*** STOP: 0x0000000A (0x006B007E,0x000000FF,0x00000000,0x80531D36)

Okay, now we have 3 instances of the same STOP code (STOP: 0x0000008E)
which have occurred at 3 different memory addresses per parameter 2 of
error message.

In my experience the old adage that "software errors are consistent,
hardware errors are variable" may be applicable here so I would
suggest that you look first for a hardware related cause such as

1. Overheating. Make certain that the inside of the computer case is
free from any buildups of dust or fuzz (computers are dust magnets).
If there is any clean it with compressed air. You can buy this in
cans at any good electronics or computer supply store. Make certain
that all of the internal fans (there may be several of these) are
properly secured and are spinning freely. Check with your
computer/motherboard manufacturer for any temperature monitoring
utility for your computer and install it. Make sure that the audibile
or at least visual alarm functions are activated for temperature and
fan speed problems.

2. Defective RAM. Download one of the following free memory testing
utilities and run it for an extended period (e.g. overnight) to check
out the RAM in your machine:
DocMemory http://www.simmtester.com
Windows Memory Diagnostic http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
Memtest86: http://www.memtest.org


One final point. One of your STOP 0x8e errors identified win32k.sys
as the source file. There is a special note on the Microsoft web
site for this error regarding win32k.sys:

"If the problem is associated with Win32k.sys, the source of the error
might be a third-party remote control program. If such software is
installed, the service can be removed by starting the system using the
Recovery Console and deleting the offending system service file."
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms794023.aspx

Good luck



Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

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